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chop
08-18-2006, 08:46 PM
I play in a keeper league and have to decide who my two keepers should be.

Starting positions: 1QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 3 Flex RB/WR, 1 TE, 1 K, and 1 Def.

Scoring: 1 pt. for every 10 yards rushing/receiving, 1 pt. for every 25 yards passing, 6 pts. for each td, 2 pts. for 3pt conversion, 1 pt. for each reception

These are the players that I can choose from (only two):

Larry Johnson
Peyton Manning
Steven Jackson
Lamont Jordan
Cedric Benson
Donald Driver

Who would you choose?

hypersensitiveZO6
08-18-2006, 08:50 PM
LJ and Manning.

chop
08-18-2006, 08:52 PM
That is who I have selected so far but I'm having second thoughts about keeping Jackson or Jordan and picking up another QB later (Green, Bulger, Eli Manning).

chop
08-18-2006, 08:54 PM
I'm thinking that I can get Ronnie Brown with my first pick. That would give me Johnson, Brown, and Jackson/Jordan. I could get the best available QB and WR with my next 2-3 picks.

hypersensitiveZO6
08-18-2006, 08:55 PM
That is who I have selected so far but I'm having second thoughts about keeping Jackson or Jordan and picking up another QB later (Green, Bulger, Eli Manning).

I'm not really sure how these work, but Steven Jackson has a lot of upside, but you can't go wrong with Manning IMO.

It's either Jackson or Manning IMO. (and LJ of course)

Nzoner
08-18-2006, 09:00 PM
That is who I have selected so far but I'm having second thoughts about keeping Jackson or Jordan and picking up another QB later (Green, Bulger, Eli Manning).

I think keeping Jackson is a good move.

Another piece of advice,if this is a money league I'd do everything I could to get the draft moved to at least after the 3rd preseason game if not later.

Rudy lost the toss
08-18-2006, 09:01 PM
Forget about Jordan. Jackson or Manning with LJ

ZootedGranny
08-18-2006, 09:07 PM
I don't think you can go wrong with either of your options, but I'd keep 2 RBs.

Manning is a step above other QBs, but the disparity between him and a QB like Delhomme, who can be had later in the draft, is much less than LJ and someone you'd find in the corresponding round.

Just as an example, in a 12 team league, Delhomme's ADP is the bottom of the 6th round, where the RBs being picked are players like McAllister, Maroney, Brown, Gore, etc.

chop
08-18-2006, 09:08 PM
Forget about Jordan. Jackson or Manning with LJ

Actually, that is what I'm struggling over, Jackson vs. Manning.

I wasn't really considering Jordan, but when the league recently decided to add a point for each reception he jumped back onto my radar. Jordan had 70 receptions last year.

chop
08-18-2006, 09:11 PM
I don't think you can go wrong with either of your options, but I'd keep 2 RBs.

Manning is a step above other QBs, but the disparity between him and a QB like Delhomme, who can be had later in the draft, is much less than LJ and someone you'd find in the corresponding round.

Just as an example, in a 12 team league, Delhomme's ADP is the bottom of the 6th round, where the RBs being picked are players like McAllister, Maroney, Brown, Gore, etc.


I am keeping Johnson. The decision I need to make is between Jackson and Manning. Is the difference between Jackson and the next guy greater than the difference between Manning and the next QB.

ZootedGranny
08-18-2006, 09:38 PM
Since you can start up to 4 RBs (if I'm reading correctly), having as many good RBs as possible is more beneficial than having the highest scoring QB.

I don't know the rest of the players available in your league, but since you said you think you'd be able to get Ronnie Brown...having LJ, Jackson, Brown and drafting a mid round QB (Brees, Delhomme) is more appealing to me than having Manning, LJ & choosing between guys like Jones, Dunn, Parker, etc.

Rudy lost the toss
08-18-2006, 09:44 PM
It's a really tough choice but I think I would go with Jackson over Manning. Faulk and Jackson combined for about 90 catches last season (about 45 each). Without Faulk, I wouldn't be surprised to see Jackson with 60+. Of Course without Martz there, I don't know how much of their offensive philosophy has changed, but I don't think it will dramatically affect his catches

chop
08-18-2006, 09:46 PM
Since you can start up to 4 RBs (if I'm reading correctly), having as many good RBs as possible is more beneficial than having the highest scoring QB.

I don't know the rest of the players available in your league, but since you said you think you'd be able to get Ronnie Brown...having LJ, Jackson, Brown and drafting a mid round QB (Brees, Delhomme) is more appealing to me than having Manning, LJ & choosing between guys like Jones, Dunn, Parker, etc.


You are reading correctly. We can start 4 rb's if we want.

What sounds better for the first three picks (Manning, LJ, Brown) or (LJ, Jackson, Brown) ?

It could be possible that Jackson may fall to me if I keep Manning. I have the third pick and there are still several players available. Here's a list of players that I will have an option at: R. Brown, R. Moss, L. Fitzgerald (thinking about him seriously), J. Jones, K. Jones, Rudy Johnson, l. Jordan, C. Dillon, W. Parker, S. Moss.

chop
08-18-2006, 09:54 PM
If I don't keep Manning I'm sure he'll be gone either 1st or 2nd.

ZootedGranny
08-18-2006, 10:06 PM
In your league, RBs are going to be scarce.

Let's say you keep Manning. If you plan to pick a 3rd RB early, which would be wise to do considering you can start up to 4, when you do so you're going to be picking amongst questionable RBs. On the other hand, if you have 3 RBs before picking a QB, there are still going to be solid QBs around.

chop
08-18-2006, 10:27 PM
In your league, RBs are going to be scarce.

Let's say you keep Manning. If you plan to pick a 3rd RB early, which would be wise to do considering you can start up to 4, when you do so you're going to be picking amongst questionable RBs. On the other hand, if you have 3 RBs before picking a QB, there are still going to be solid QBs around.


The thing that turns this all upside down is that we now give one point per reception. That will make some receivers more valuable than some running backs.

Rudy lost the toss
08-18-2006, 10:28 PM
what about Reggie Bush?

chop
08-18-2006, 10:31 PM
what about Reggie Bush?


He would still be available. I forgot about him.

Logical
08-18-2006, 10:36 PM
LJ and Manning.:clap:

wutamess
08-18-2006, 10:37 PM
Easy...
Jackson & LJ.

Jackson is going to be HUGE this year and should be the #4 back taken this year even over Portis, Edge, and Tiki.

Edge has the same Oline with great receivers in a 60% pass happy offense.

Portis is banged upa nd rarely plays an entire season.

Tiki is gonna split and is getting up in age.

Jackson all the way. Great O-line. good receivers and he's going to be a workhorse this year.

Not completely sold on lamont Jordan yet.

rad
08-18-2006, 11:21 PM
Wouldn't you rather stockpile WR's since you get 1 point per reception?

You only need to start 1 RB.

Guru
08-18-2006, 11:33 PM
Considering you are getting 6 points per TD, and I assume that means any TD thrown also, I would probably keep Manning and LJ. If the QB only received 4 pts per TD, I would go with Jackson and LJ.

GoTrav
08-19-2006, 12:11 AM
That is who I have selected so far but I'm having second thoughts about keeping Jackson or Jordan and picking up another QB later (Green, Bulger, Eli Manning).

LJ and Jackson. I'd wait and grab Eli if possible. But having PPR makes Jordan look pretty decent.

Pasta Giant Meatball
08-19-2006, 12:59 AM
i would say peyton, but it looks like you can start up to 4 runningbacks with the flex postion...i'd take jackson in this case.