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D2112
09-03-2006, 05:57 PM
US Missle defense test a success
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14629330/

LOS ANGELES - An interceptor missile destroyed a mock warhead over the Pacific Ocean on Friday in a key test of the nation’s missile defense system, U.S. military officials said.

It was the most realistic test of the systems that would be used against an attack, said Missile Defense Agency spokesman Rick Lehner.

The 54-foot interceptor shot out of an underground silo at Vandenberg Air Force Base on the central California coast at 10:39 a.m., 17 minutes after the mock warhead was launched from Kodiak Island, Alaska, Lehner said.

The interceptor carried a refrigerator-sized “kill vehicle” that locked on to the approaching mock enemy missile and flew into the 4-foot-long warhead at 18,000 mph.

Lehner said both disintegrated more than 100 miles above the Earth and a few hundred miles west of Vandenberg. The interceptor’s flight lasted 13 minutes.

Test called a ‘total success’
The $85 million test was designed to see whether the “kill vehicle” could get close to the warhead to test the tracking and sensor systems which would be used in an actual missile attack.

“It gave us a good chance to measure overall system performance. It was the most operationally realistic test we’ve had,” Lehner said.

The interceptor was launched by remote control from a command center in Colorado. The test also was the first use of an early warning radar at Beale Air Force Base, Calif., to provide the data required to put the interceptor on a proper path toward its target.

The test was a “total success,” Lt. Gen. Henry A. Obering III, the agency director, told a Pentagon news conference.

“What we did today is a huge step in terms of our systematic approach to continuing to field, continuing to deploy and continuing to develop a missile defense system for the United States, for our allies, our friends, our deployed forces around the world,” Obering said.

Data from the test will take several weeks to review, Lehner said.

North Korea accused the United States of threatening war against the communist nation with the missile defense test and vowed to strengthen its self-defense to counter any U.S. attack.

The U.S. move “clearly shows that it is the U.S. which is increasing tensions on the Korean Peninsula and threatening war against our country,” the North’s Committee for the Peaceful Reunification of the Fatherland said in a statement Saturday.

The North will strengthen its “self-defensive deterrent,” said the statement, carried by the official Korean Central News Agency. Pyongyang often uses the phrase to refer to its nuclear program.

Stephen Young, a senior analyst for the Union of Concerned Scientists, a group that advocates curbing the spread of nuclear weapons, said the demonstration was still far from replicating an actual missile attack, he said.

“They know the when, the where, the what (of the target missile) ... where it’s coming from, the size of the warhead,” he said by phone from Maryland.

The test was a small step forward, but the system is still far from being able to protect Americans from long-range missile attacks, said John Pike, director of GlobalSecurity.org, a Washington, D.C., think tank.

“The whole point is for us not to worry about the North Korean missiles,” said Pike. “They are not close to that yet. Whether it will ever happen is subject to debate.”

The launch was postponed from Thursday after fog socked in Kodiak Island. There was also fog over Vandenberg Friday morning but it burned off.

More than $100 billion has been spent on America’s missile-defense system since 1983 and it has been the subject of criticism by those who call it a costly boondoggle. There also have been allegations that early tests were rigged or their success exaggerated. The Pentagon says the technology used in those tests is not part of the current research program.

Critics also argued early on that the end of the Cold War made a full-scale missile attack on the U.S. unlikely. Supporters say the U.S. still is vulnerable to missiles from rogue states.

Laz
09-03-2006, 06:12 PM
it's good ... maybe if the missile defense gets good enough countries will stop making nuclear missiles
"the goal"

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-03-2006, 06:41 PM
Because of course missile defense will protect from portable nuclear weapons and SLBMs :shake:

CHIEF4EVER
09-03-2006, 06:46 PM
Because of course missile defense will protect from portable nuclear weapons and SLBMs :shake:

The Koreans and Chinese have some Serious subs. Almost as good as the noisy azz ones the Soviets had.......j/k. :rolleyes:

Pitt Gorilla
09-03-2006, 06:52 PM
Awesome.

banyon
09-03-2006, 07:16 PM
I'm not against the idea of having a viable missile defense shield, but I don't see how a single successful intercept is news. I thought we had intercepted stuff before, the problem I thought was that our rate of success wasn't high enough.

CHIEF4EVER
09-03-2006, 07:18 PM
I'm not against the idea of having a viable missile defense shield, but I don't see how a single successful intercept is news. I thought we had intercepted stuff before, the problem I thought was that our rate of success wasn't high enough.

I suppose one could argue that anything less than 100% isn't good enough, but I will take "most of the time" any day at this point.

mikey23545
09-03-2006, 08:28 PM
I suppose one could argue that anything less than 100% isn't good enough, but I will take "most of the time" any day at this point.

You fool!

If we can't stop them all, then we shouldn't stop any of them!

Remember, missile defenses don't stop warheads, treaties written on paper do!

|Zach|
09-03-2006, 10:20 PM
Cool shit.

carlos3652
09-03-2006, 10:26 PM
North Korea accused the United States of threatening war against the communist nation with the missile defense test and vowed to strengthen its self-defense to counter any U.S. attack.

The U.S. move “clearly shows that it is the U.S. which is increasing tensions on the Korean Peninsula and threatening war against our country,” the North’s Committee for the Peaceful Reunification of the Fatherland said in a statement Saturday.

The North will strengthen its “self-defensive deterrent,” said the statement, carried by the official Korean Central News Agency. Pyongyang often uses the phrase to refer to its nuclear program.



WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, we feel that the US is ready to attack us with these defensive missiles, prepare for war...

Brock
09-04-2006, 07:33 AM
I'm not against the idea of having a viable missile defense shield, but I don't see how a single successful intercept is news. I thought we had intercepted stuff before, the problem I thought was that our rate of success wasn't high enough.

:rolleyes: Just incredibly dumb.

D2112
09-04-2006, 08:07 AM
I'm not against the idea of having a viable missile defense shield, but I don't see how a single successful intercept is news. I thought we had intercepted stuff before, the problem I thought was that our rate of success wasn't high enough.
they were having alot of problems doing this before..thats why it's news!!!

and it was a direct hit on the warhead 100 miles up..THATS NEWS!!! ;)

banyon
09-04-2006, 09:12 AM
:rolleyes: Just incredibly dumb.

Was it not a single intercept?

Brock
09-04-2006, 09:38 AM
Was it not a single intercept?

Didn't spend much time in the science building, did you?

banyon
09-04-2006, 09:40 AM
Didn't spend much time in the science building, did you?

Why don't you try answering a question instead of insulting me?

cowace2
09-04-2006, 09:49 AM
This is the first successful test of the GMD thing since one of the really early tests in (I think) 2002. It is a pretty big deal insofar as this particular system is concerned, especially since it hasn't had an overwhelmingly successful test phase so far.

That said, this thing isn't going to ever be able to reliably defeat the most advanced ICBMs that are out there right now. What it really is for is as a development vehicle for future ABM systems that might be able to.

patteeu
09-04-2006, 10:44 AM
Using a form of logic most recently embraced by liberals, anti-bush moonbats, misguided LewRockwellians, and ChiefsPlanet's own Logical, North Korea claims it is being forced into a state of beligerence by the actions of the US:

North Korea accused the United States of threatening war against the communist nation with the missile defense test and vowed to strengthen its self-defense to counter any U.S. attack.

The U.S. move “clearly shows that it is the U.S. which is increasing tensions on the Korean Peninsula and threatening war against our country,” the North’s Committee for the Peaceful Reunification of the Fatherland said in a statement Saturday.

The North will strengthen its “self-defensive deterrent,” said the statement, carried by the official Korean Central News Agency. Pyongyang often uses the phrase to refer to its nuclear program.

Meanwhile, the US continues to create terrorists with it's Iraqi Marshall plan.

LMAO :p

cowace2
09-04-2006, 11:51 AM
Using a form of logic most recently embraced by liberals, anti-bush moonbats, misguided LewRockwellians, and ChiefsPlanet's own Logical, North Korea claims it is being forced into a state of beligerence by the actions of the US:

I think that the tactic of portraying another nation as being aggressive and expansionist in order to fuel domestic distrust/counteraggression is a tactic invented by neocons.

Really, I'm unfamiliar with any notable "liberals" doing such a thing lately. Could you perhaps cite who in particular has employed this logic?

Hog Farmer
09-04-2006, 01:22 PM
Why would we want to try and intercept a missile from North Korea, their long range ones only go 40 feet.

StcChief
09-04-2006, 01:30 PM
Why would we want to try and intercept a missile from North Korea, their long range ones only go 40 feet.
ROFL

Well just incase....the Chinese are right next door to N.Korea.

patteeu
09-04-2006, 02:03 PM
I think that the tactic of portraying another nation as being aggressive and expansionist in order to fuel domestic distrust/counteraggression is a tactic invented by neocons.

Really, I'm unfamiliar with any notable "liberals" doing such a thing lately. Could you perhaps cite who in particular has employed this logic?

How about Naomi Klein from the Nation magazine (http://www.thenation.com/doc/20050829/klein):

The real problem is not too much multiculturalism but too little. If the diversity now ghettoized on the margins of Western societies--geographically and psychologically--were truly allowed to migrate to the centers, it might infuse public life in the West with a powerful new humanism. If we had deeply multi-ethnic societies, rather than shallow multicultural ones, it would be much more difficult for politicians to sign deportation orders sending Algerian asylum-seekers to torture, or to wage wars in which only the invaders' dead are counted. A society that truly lived its values of equality and human rights, at home and abroad, would have another benefit too. It would rob terrorists of what has always been their greatest recruitment tool: our racism.

patteeu
09-04-2006, 02:06 PM
I think that the tactic of portraying another nation as being aggressive and expansionist in order to fuel domestic distrust/counteraggression is a tactic invented by neocons.

By the way, what are you talking about here? Are you referring to Saddam's Iraq, a proven aggressive, expansionist regime, or do you have something else in mind? And are you using "neocon" in the traditional anti-semitic codeword sense or in some other way?

Bearcat2005
09-04-2006, 03:54 PM
You fool!

If we can't stop them all, then we shouldn't stop any of them!

Remember, missile defenses don't stop warheads, treaties written on paper do!

Treaties stop warheads? ......Just like the treaty of versailles was to prevent future wars lol!

CHIEF4EVER
09-04-2006, 04:08 PM
Why would we want to try and intercept a missile from North Korea, their long range ones only go 40 feet.


ROFL Repski.

Hog Farmer
04-08-2009, 11:51 AM
Update, They now have a missile that will reach the Pacific ocean !

Donger
04-08-2009, 11:56 AM
Nice. Exo-atmosphere intercept?

Donger
04-08-2009, 11:59 AM
Because of course missile defense will protect from portable nuclear weapons and SLBMs :shake:

This technology is applicable to SLBMs, too. It isn't designed to protect against other delivery methods. But, you knew that.

Personally, I'm fine with it doing what it is supposed to do: intercept and destroy incoming warheads. I can't imagine why anyone would find that to be a bad thing.

vailpass
04-08-2009, 12:00 PM
Because of course missile defense will protect from portable nuclear weapons and SLBMs :shake:

So of course we should leave ourselves vulnerable to airborne missiles.
Hillbilly.

Donger
04-08-2009, 12:02 PM
Why don't you try answering a question instead of insulting me?

If you are questioning whether or not the was the intercept of a single warhead, then the answer is yes. MRVs aren't as difficult as people think. It just requires more interceptors and tracking of multiple warheads.

Donger
04-08-2009, 12:06 PM
Or destroying the target before it has a chance to disperse its payload.

Boost phase is best, yes. But NK seems pretty competent of taking care of that themselves.

Radar Chief
04-08-2009, 12:08 PM
Boost phase is best, yes. But NK seems pretty competent of taking care of that themselves.

Oops, sorry, I deleted my post because its not like you didn’t know that.

Bowser
04-08-2009, 12:11 PM
Boost phase is best, yes. But NK seems pretty competent of taking care of that themselves.

How'd you like to be the one to tell Kimmy that he can't steal Nascar radio from the Sirius satellite because his satellite is parked off the coast of Okinawa somewhere?

Hog Farmer
04-08-2009, 12:16 PM
How'd you like to be the one to tell Kimmy that he can't steal Nascar radio from the Sirius satellite because his satellite is parked off the coast of Okinawa somewhere?

It would be funny as hell if he really believed he now has his own satellite in outer space and his military was too scared to tell him it was fed to the sharks.

ROFL

Garcia Bronco
04-08-2009, 02:14 PM
You fool!

If we can't stop them all, then we shouldn't stop any of them!

Remember, missile defenses don't stop warheads, treaties written on paper do!

LOL. Exactly