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tfree32
09-10-2006, 06:02 PM
Too bad about Green, here's hoping he makes a full recovery.

That being said, the Chiefs just plain suck. Is there a player on offense besides Johnson who's under 40? The line is old and weak, the QB is a limp-wristed statute, the receivers have sucked for years, Gonzalez is past his prime, and it's looking like it's time to rebuild the offense around LJ.

The defense has sucked for years, and Law and Bell aren't going to solve the problem.

I think it's time for the Chiefs to rebuild around LJ and a defense that has some young talent. Time to stop spending money bringing in older players past their prime. Time to stop pretending they're a serious contender, and face the fact that it's time to build for the future.

mac58
09-10-2006, 06:03 PM
They do suck real bad. . .and the play calling is horrible. . .

milkman
09-10-2006, 06:04 PM
Limp wristed statue?

I think you just won Dumbass of the Year.

ChiefsfaninPA
09-10-2006, 06:05 PM
They do suck real bad. . .and the play calling is horrible. . .

Yeah, what you said.

Tribal Warfare
09-10-2006, 06:06 PM
Another dickhead talking shit after the fact.

Short Leash Hootie
09-10-2006, 06:07 PM
First off, the Bengals are a 13 win team.

Secondly, this was Solari's first game. He'll get better.

Third, if Green returns week 4, we will have a chance of winning our division. Denver looked awful, and I can't see San Diego or Oakland running away with the division. It may only take 9 wins.

Mecca
09-10-2006, 06:12 PM
It is time to rebuild.......after this year they need to cut tons of old players, go with young guys and take the lumps. Of course I doubt that will happen Carl has never gone that route the entire time he's been here.

splatbass
09-10-2006, 06:16 PM
Too bad about Green, here's hoping he makes a full recovery.

That being said, the Chiefs just plain suck. Is there a player on offense besides Johnson who's under 40? The line is old and weak, the QB is a limp-wristed statute, the receivers have sucked for years, Gonzalez is past his prime, and it's looking like it's time to rebuild the offense around LJ.

The defense has sucked for years, and Law and Bell aren't going to solve the problem.

I think it's time for the Chiefs to rebuild around LJ and a defense that has some young talent. Time to stop spending money bringing in older players past their prime. Time to stop pretending they're a serious contender, and face the fact that it's time to build for the future.

Where to start...

Sami Parker is young, and the problem with our offensive line is not the old timers, it is the young guys that aren't good enough to replace the old timers.

Gonzalez had a very good game today, and has several more good years in him. Green is a good QB, one of the best in the last 5 years. The D looked pretty good today against one of the better offenses in the NFL. They held Rudi to 96 yards rushing and Palmer to 127 yards passing. Cinci had very good field position all day, and the D did a good job under the circumstances.

I think the D will get better as the season goes along, and are a vast improvement over last year. The offense needs to get their line play straightened out, and they will be ok - once Green returns.

In short, I think your entire post is wrong.

Wa-Z
09-10-2006, 06:16 PM
First off, the Bengals are a 13 win team.

Secondly, this was Solari's first game. He'll get better.

Third, if Green returns week 4, we will have a chance of winning our division. Denver looked awful, and I can't see San Diego or Oakland running away with the division. It may only take 9 wins.

Then what, we make the playoffs and lose in the first round and get the 24th pick in the draft...no thanks. The best way to rebuild is to have a Top 10 pick.

suds79
09-10-2006, 06:19 PM
Is there a player on offense besides Johnson who's under 40? The line is old and weak, the QB is a limp-wristed statute, the receivers have sucked for years, Gonzalez is past his prime

Wow those are some ignorant comments.

1 - This was not the game to talk about how Gonzo is past his prime. 10 rec for 81 yards and a TD

2 - Limp wristed statute? :shake: I find it amzing how Trent was able to go 11 for 15 for 90 yards and only 1 pick that Sammy Parker let go through his hands with the lack of protection he was getting today. No QB with that kind of protection could of been much more productive.

3 - The under 40 remark is just stupid.

CupidStunt
09-10-2006, 06:21 PM
Add Willie Roaf to the lineup and it's a top-five offense.

Don't be so fickle. Or just plain dumb. Either/or.

HerculesRockefell
09-10-2006, 06:22 PM
Third, if Green returns week 4, we will have a chance of winning our division. Denver looked awful, and I can't see San Diego or Oakland running away with the division. It may only take 9 wins.

Denver looked like crap in Week 1 last year, got beat much worse too. They ended up 13-3, Plummer's also looked like crap in all 4 of their openers. If you think 9 wins will take this division, you are sorely mistaken.

Mecca
09-10-2006, 06:24 PM
Then what, we make the playoffs and lose in the first round and get the 24th pick in the draft...no thanks. The best way to rebuild is to have a Top 10 pick.

Yea pretty much.....but the Chiefs seem to always be content to be a borderline playoff team. Never good enough to win the bowl never bad enough to get an elite pick.

ChiefsCountry
09-10-2006, 06:39 PM
Then what, we make the playoffs and lose in the first round and get the 24th pick in the draft...no thanks. The best way to rebuild is to have a Top 10 pick.

Hell of a pick the last time we had a top 10 pick wasn't it.

Guru
09-10-2006, 06:41 PM
Limp wristed statue?

I think you just won Dumbass of the Year.


No, he said "Limp wristed statute." :shake:

JBucc
09-10-2006, 06:41 PM
Let's just tell Goodell we forfeit the rest of our games and go ahead and draft Brady Quinn.

milkman
09-10-2006, 06:45 PM
No, he said "Limp wristed statute." :shake:

So is he talking about Green or Law?

milkman
09-10-2006, 06:46 PM
Let's just tell Goodell we forfeit the rest of our games and go ahead and draft Brady Quinn.

Trade out of that pick, and draft a couple of tackles.

Mecca
09-10-2006, 06:49 PM
Let's just tell Goodell we forfeit the rest of our games and go ahead and draft Brady Quinn.

I want Calvin Johnson if we're that high.....

tfree32
09-10-2006, 06:49 PM
The choice is to: 1) aim for 9-7 or 8-8 every year and maybe sneak into the playoffs or to 2) have a rough couple of years, cut some of the old timers, get some high draft picks and invest in your talent, let them learn, and re-emerge with a contending team.

When was the last team that the Chiefs were an honest contender for winning a championship? I've never been around for one. As impressive as the offense has been at times, the defense has been worse. Now the offense has been weakened by age, injuries, and retirements, and is not what it once was. The holes have not been plugged with quality youngsters. The cupboard is bare.

It's time to cut the losses and rebuild. Better to have 2-3 tough years at the bottom of the AFC West and then have a shot at a championship than to be consistently mediocre.

Mecca
09-10-2006, 06:50 PM
The choice is to: 1) aim for 9-7 or 8-8 every year and maybe sneak into the playoffs or to 2) have a rough couple of years, cut some of the old timers, get some high draft picks and invest in your talent, let them learn, and re-emerge with a contending team.

When was the last team that the Chiefs were an honest contender for winning a championship? I've never been around for one. As impressive as the offense has been at times, the defense has been worse. Now the offense has been weakened by age, injuries, and retirements, and is not what it once was. The holes have not been plugged with quality youngsters. The cupboard is bare.

It's time to cut the losses and rebuild. Better to have 2-3 tough years at the bottom of the AFC West and then have a shot at a championship than to be consistently mediocre.

The Chiefs never do that because they're concerned will filling that stadium and making money.......they stay just good enough to keep the ticket buyers interested.

Raiderhader
09-10-2006, 06:52 PM
Then what, we make the playoffs and lose in the first round and get the 24th pick in the draft...no thanks. The best way to rebuild is to have a Top 10 pick.



I don't know what is more jaw dropping, saying Trent is a limp wristed statue, or saying we should start playing for draft picks, i.e. lose, after the first game of the season.


wow.

splatbass
09-10-2006, 06:54 PM
I don't know what is more jaw dropping, saying Trent is a limp wristed statue, or saying we should start playing for draft picks, i.e. lose, after the first game of the season.


wow.


Yup, I'm glad some of these guys aren't in charge of the team.

Mecca
09-10-2006, 08:30 PM
Yup, I'm glad some of these guys aren't in charge of the team.

You really think this team has a shot? I personally thought the window was closed after last year.....

blueballs
09-10-2006, 08:38 PM
I had a crappy hamburger for lunch
nuke all the cattle

beer bacon
09-10-2006, 08:39 PM
I love how this shit is bantered around every year. You do not get good by being really horrible for a few seasons so you can spend 60 million dollars on some blue chip prospects.

You get good, or better yet, continue to be good, by just having quality drafts rounds 1-7 year after year. Having Hali, Pollard, Croyle, Page, and somebody like Maxey all turning into solid players from this draft, then getting 4 or 5 good players from the 2007 draft, and then doing the same thing year after year.

Those #1 picks are way too expensive. They instantly become one of the highest paid players on your team, and they may not ever even play a game in the NFL.

Mecca
09-10-2006, 08:42 PM
I love how this shit is bantered around every year. You do not get good by being really horrible for a few seasons so you can spend 60 million dollars on some blue chip prospects.

You get good, or better yet, continue to be good, by just having quality drafts rounds 1-7 year after year. Having Hali, Pollard, Croyle, Page, and somebody like Maxey all turning into solid players from this draft, then getting 4 or 5 good players from the 2007 draft, and then doing the same thing year after year.

Those #1 picks are way too expensive. They instantly become one of the highest paid players on your team, and they may not ever even play a game in the NFL.

We don't want high draft picks because they cost to much......sounds like something the Royals would say.

Baconeater
09-10-2006, 08:43 PM
Do I need to remind everybody Tfree is a Buccaneers fan? Maybe we should discuss their limp-wristed QB.

Raiderhader
09-10-2006, 08:44 PM
We don't want high draft picks because they cost to much......sounds like something the Royals would say.



We want to be losers to get high draft picks....... sounds like something Chiefs fans would say.

beer bacon
09-10-2006, 08:45 PM
We don't want high draft picks because they cost to much......sounds like something the Royals would say.

Baseball has no salary cap. Good NFL teams stay good by managing the cap. Giving some untested rook 30 million in guarantees is not smart. Just like drafting Cromartie would not have been smart.

Mecca
09-10-2006, 08:49 PM
Baseball has no salary cap. Good NFL teams stay good by managing the cap. Giving some untested rook 30 million in guarantees is not smart. Just like drafting Cromartie would not have been smart.

Alright that's your opinion, I'd rather have a shot at an elite young player than picking 25th.

You know by saying that you're basically saying instead of being able to pick a Calvin Johnson or a Carson Palmer or a Reggie Bush or a Peyton Manning you'll take your chances the ok prospects. It baffles me that someone wouldn't want the shot to get players like that.

beer bacon
09-10-2006, 08:51 PM
Alright that's your opinion, I'd rather have a shot at an elite young player than picking 25th.

You know by saying that you're basically saying instead of being able to pick a Calvin Johnson or a Carson Palmer or a Reggie Bush or a Peyton Manning you'll take your chances the ok prospects. It baffles me that someone wouldn't want the shot to get players like that.

What I want is a front office and scouting department that doesn't need the #1 pick in the draft to get a good player. I want to be able to draft players late in the first, early in the third, in the second, fourth, whenever, that will be good players in our system. When a NFL organization can do that, then they can consistantly be a good team.

Mecca
09-10-2006, 08:53 PM
What I want is a front office and scouting department that doesn't need the #1 pick in the draft to get a good player. I want to be able to draft players late in the first, early in the third, in the second, fourth, whenever, that will be good players in our system. When a NFL organization can do that, then they can consistantly be a good team.

Most of the really good teams in this league have atleast 1 player that was selected top 10 that their team is built around.....you can't build an entire team around middle level picks.

mdstu
09-10-2006, 09:09 PM
Alright that's your opinion, I'd rather have a shot at an elite young player than picking 25th.

You know by saying that you're basically saying instead of being able to pick a Calvin Johnson or a Carson Palmer or a Reggie Bush or a Peyton Manning you'll take your chances the ok prospects. It baffles me that someone wouldn't want the shot to get players like that.

How the **** do you get "the shot to get players like that"?
Not sign good free agents?
Intentionally throw games?
Tell your players not to try?
Cut good players?

What are you saying? I don't get it. Please make sense of it.

Mecca
09-10-2006, 09:12 PM
How the **** do you get "the shot to get players like that"?
Not sign good free agents?
Intentionally throw games?
Tell your players not to try?
Cut good players?

What are you saying? I don't get it. Please make sense of it.

Well either things go completely wrong for you or your team isn't good. Some teams do go through years where they cut old players get young and don't expect to contend for a year or 2.

If the Chiefs came out after this year and said they were gonna go young cut alot of veterans and take their lumps and play for 3 years down the line I'd be fine with that.

Raiderhader
09-10-2006, 09:13 PM
How the **** do you get "the shot to get players like that"?
Not sign good free agents?
Intentionally throw games?
Tell your players not to try?
Cut good players?

What are you saying? I don't get it. Please make sense of it.


Don't bother, you're head will just end up hurting even more trying to understand the thought process.

KcMizzou
09-10-2006, 09:14 PM
If the Chiefs came out after this year and said they were gonna go young cut alot of veterans and take their lumps and play for 3 years down the line I'd be fine with that.Yeah, It's worked out great for the Royals.

I'm kidding.

Mostly.

Mecca
09-10-2006, 09:16 PM
Yeah, It's worked out great for the Royals.

I'm kidding.

Mostly.

Well this strategy of building a team completely through free agency hasn't worked either......I just don't like that the Chiefs team is almost completely different than it was when Vermiel took over yet as a team we're older. There's no kind of sustained ability to be good when your team is built around guys who are 30 when you got them.

mdstu
09-10-2006, 09:17 PM
With parity like it is, there is no way I wouldn't go for it with a team like this.

I would always try to be the best I could be, because you never know. Especially when rebuilding is a such a crapshoot.

Mecca
09-10-2006, 09:19 PM
With parity like it is, there is no way I wouldn't go for it with a team like this.

I would always try to be the best I could be, because you never know. Especially when rebuilding is a such a crapshoot.

This team is going to have to be gutted after this year......it's old and looks to be declining. There are some nice pieces but there's a hell of alot of work to do, atleast that's how it looks right now.

KcMizzou
09-10-2006, 09:19 PM
Well this strategy of building a team completely through free agency hasn't worked either......I just don't like that the Chiefs team is almost completely different than it was when Vermiel took over yet as a team we're older. There's no kind of sustained ability to be good when your team is built around guys who are 30 when you got them.
I'd be fine with a "clean slate" approach if I had more faith in our ability to evaluate talent.

As it stands, I think we need the proven players we've been able to pick up.

My fear would be that we would start over, expecting to compete again in a few years... only to see that "few years" turn into 15.

chagrin
09-10-2006, 09:20 PM
I wonder what the Statue of limitations is for the NFL to fine that guy for the cheap shot hit on a sliding QB who was obviously sliding, and on the ground when dude slammed his head to the ground?


And if this guy is a bucs fan, will you PLEASE fuggin take Bueyedbea back to your board?

mdstu
09-10-2006, 09:20 PM
Hell the Bengals rebuilt for 15 years. What do they have to show for it. First round loss just like us.

splatbass
09-10-2006, 09:21 PM
You really think this team has a shot? I personally thought the window was closed after last year.....

Yes. One bad game does not end the season. We have an improving defense, and an offense that can still score points. If Hall doesn't fumble, if we don't run up the middle on 3rd and 5 and make a TD instead of a FG, if Green hadn't been knocked out, this could have been a very diffferent game. There was nothing that can't be corrected. Mistakes and penalties were our biggest problem today.

When Green comes back and we start Sampson instead of Black, our offense will play better. Maybe not the same as the last few years, but still pretty good.

I never understand you doom and gloom types, the sky is always falling with you people. We have the potential to win the division this year, and you want to throw it all away to get better draft picks that may not even work out? Remember Sims? An early draft pick is no guarantee that they will be good.

If losing to get good draft picks was the answer Pheonix would be the Super Bowl champions.

Mecca
09-10-2006, 09:22 PM
I'd be fine with a "clean slate" approach if I had more faith in our ability to evaluate talent.

As it stands, I think we need the proven players we've been able to pick up.

My fear would be that we would start over, expecting to compete again in a few years... only to see that "few years" turn into 15.

Even in that vein I think we need 1 clean slate year to get rid of all these bad contracts we have on the books right now. There's alot of money they could clear off the cap if they'd take the 1-2 year clean slate approach so they could atleast spend it on some productive players.

mdstu
09-10-2006, 09:25 PM
Ki-Jana Carter
Akili Smith

Mecca
09-10-2006, 09:25 PM
Yes. One bad game does not end the season. We have an improving defense, and an offense that can still score points. If Hall doesn't fumble, if we don't run up the middle on 3rd and 5 and make a TD instead of a FG, if Green hadn't been knocked out, this could have been a very diffferent game. There was nothing that can't be corrected. Mistakes and penalties were our biggest problem today.

When Green comes back and we start Sampson instead of Black, our offense will play better. Maybe not the same as the last few years, but still pretty good.

I never understand you doom and gloom types, the sky is always falling with you people. We have the potential to win the division this year, and you want to throw it all away to get better draft picks that may not even work out? Remember Sims? An early draft pick is no guarantee that they will be good.

I'm not really a doom and gloomer but honestly I thought last year was our last shot and we needed to start to think about getting younger and starting over........that was why I was a big advocate of taking Cromartie in the draft.

Raiderhader
09-10-2006, 09:26 PM
Ki-Jana Carter
Akili Smith



Todd Blackledge.....

Mecca
09-10-2006, 09:26 PM
Ki-Jana Carter
Akili Smith

You obviously don't hit on every pick but you shouldn't miss on a top 5 pick. The Chiefs missed on Sims cause Vermiel was a dumbass and listened to his pal John Bunting even I knew John Henderson was the better player.

Picking first also turned around the Bengals organization when they selected Carson Palmer.

stevieray
09-10-2006, 09:28 PM
Even in that vein I think we need 1 clean slate year to get rid of all these bad contracts we have on the books right now. There's alot of money they could clear off the cap if they'd take the 1-2 year clean slate approach so they could atleast spend it on some productive players.


so, we'll see you in a couple of years too?

splatbass
09-10-2006, 09:29 PM
You obviously don't hit on every pick but you shouldn't miss on a top 5 pick. The Chiefs missed on Sims cause Vermiel was a dumbass and listened to his pal John Bunting even I knew John Henderson was the better player.

Picking first also turned around the Bengals organization when they selected Carson Palmer.


Good coaching turned around the Bengals. Do you really think that you could just plug Palmer into any crappy team and they would suddenly be contenders? It doesn't work that way. Ask Pheonix and Detroit how drafting early has turned them into SB contenders....

Rausch
09-10-2006, 09:29 PM
When Green comes back and we start Sampson instead of Black, our offense will play better.


By then we'll be 2-6.

If we're lucky...

Mecca
09-10-2006, 09:29 PM
so, we'll see you in a couple of years too?

What's that suppose to mean? Like I'm a fairweather fan or some such?

Mecca
09-10-2006, 09:30 PM
Good coaching turned around the Bengals. Do you really think that you could just plug Palmer into any crappy team and they would suddenly be contenders? It doesn't work that way. Ask Pheonix and Detroit how drafting early has turned them into SB contenders....

Arizona is also a team on the rise........Detroit has drafted like complete morons so that's their own fault.

Raiderhader
09-10-2006, 09:30 PM
You obviously don't hit on every pick but you shouldn't miss on a top 5 pick. The Chiefs missed on Sims cause Vermiel was a dumbass and listened to his pal John Bunting even I knew John Henderson was the better player.

Picking first also turned around the Bengals organization when they selected Carson Palmer.


But how many years did picking first NOT turn around that team?

Picking top 5 is not the cure all you are making it out to be.

Mecca
09-10-2006, 09:33 PM
But how many years did picking first NOT turn around that team?

Picking top 5 is not the cure all you are making it out to be.

I agree it's not the end all be all, but I think it is time to think about rebuilding.

mdstu
09-10-2006, 09:34 PM
Jimmy Johnson and the Cowboys did smething amazing by raping everyone in the draft and creating a dynasty in Dallas.

But because of him it is impossible to get more than a draft pick is worth. Rebuilding is a risk just like drafting in the top ten is no sure thing. I'll take what we have in a heartbeat.

Mecca
09-10-2006, 09:37 PM
Jimmy Johnson and the Cowboys did smething amazing by raping everyone in the draft and creating a dynasty in Dallas.

But because of him it is impossible to get more than a draft pick is worth. Rebuilding is a risk just like drafting in the top ten is no sure thing. I'll take what we have in a heartbeat.

Look at the age of the team......even if you don't want to call it rebuilding the Chiefs have a ton of guys that need to be replaced for age/generally sucking regardless.

Raiderhader
09-10-2006, 09:38 PM
I agree it's not the end all be all, but I think it is time to think about rebuilding.



Fine, you don't have to lose to rebuild. That is where I part ways with the "lose for higher draft picks" crowd, especially after the first f#cking game of the f#cking season.

F#ck.

'Hamas' Jenkins
09-10-2006, 09:40 PM
You obviously don't hit on every pick but you shouldn't miss on a top 5 pick. The Chiefs missed on Sims cause Vermiel was a dumbass and listened to his pal John Bunting even I knew John Henderson was the better player.

Picking first also turned around the Bengals organization when they selected Carson Palmer.

Getting Chad Johnson, TJ Houshmanzadeh, Rudi Johnson, and Odell "Winstrol" Thurman in rounds 2, 7, 4, and 2 didn't hurt either. No one cares if you thought John Henderson was the better player, the only part that matters is that Vermeil made a decision based upon the input of a f*cking moron who he only believed b/c he was close to him. Granted, people were still all over Sims' dick before the draft, so it's hard to single us out. The guy is a bust, just like Charles Rogers, who was lauded as a good pick 3 three years ago.

splatbass
09-10-2006, 09:40 PM
Fine, you don't have to lose to rebuild. That is where I part ways with the "lose for higher draft picks" crowd, especially after the first f#cking game of the f#cking season.

F#ck.

Exactly. You ALWAYS play to win, or you have no business in the NFL.

Mecca
09-10-2006, 09:40 PM
Fine, you don't have to lose to rebuild. That is where I part ways with the "lose for higher draft picks" crowd, especially after the first f#cking game of the f#cking season.

F#ck.

And hey that's great if your young players are that good and you don't totally suck that's a bonus. It's just that generally when you go young it involves a 5-11 season....

Mecca
09-10-2006, 09:43 PM
Getting Chad Johnson, TJ Houshmanzadeh, Rudi Johnson, and Odell "Winstrol" Thurman in rounds 2, 7, 4, and 2 didn't hurt either. No one cares if you thought John Henderson was the better player, the only part that matters is that Vermeil made a decision based upon the input of a f*cking moron who he only believed b/c he was close to him. Granted, people were still all over Sims' dick before the draft, so it's hard to single us out. The guy is a bust, just like Charles Rogers, who was lauded as a good pick 3 three years ago.

That Chad Johnson pick was frankly a great pick......I liked him out of Oregon state and was upset when we took Sylvester Morris over him. Housh is frankly better than I think anyone ever thought he'd be he was pretty much "that guy that played with Chad Johnson at Oregon State". I think everyone knew Thurman was talented but he has some issues so of course teams passed the same way Chris Henry was a first round talent taken in the 3rd round. I also remember being surprised that Rudi Johnson was a 4th rounder after how productive he was at Auburn.

splatbass
09-10-2006, 09:46 PM
Arizona is also a team on the rise........Detroit has drafted like complete morons so that's their own fault.


The Cards have been drafting early since they were in St. Louis. Do you really want to wait 30 years?

ChiefsCountry
09-10-2006, 09:46 PM
Jimmy Johnson and the Cowboys did smething amazing by raping everyone in the draft and creating a dynasty in Dallas.

But because of him it is impossible to get more than a draft pick is worth. Rebuilding is a risk just like drafting in the top ten is no sure thing. I'll take what we have in a heartbeat.

No Dallas did by raping Minnesota for all the picks that came from Herschal Walker, no team is that dumb anymore besides New Orleans in '98.

Mecca
09-10-2006, 09:48 PM
The Cards have been drafting early since they were in St. Louis. Do you really want to wait 30 years?

That comes from being inept as an organization like the Bengals were...once each team finally hired a real coach things have turned around for both of them.

Sure-Oz
09-10-2006, 09:50 PM
1 ****in game, good lord there are alot of douch bags out after a week 1 loss!

milkman
09-10-2006, 10:07 PM
That comes from being inept as an organization like the Bengals were...once each team finally hired a real coach things have turned around for both of them.

So....uh......when do you expect this organization to hire a real coach?

Mecca
09-10-2006, 10:11 PM
So....uh......when do you expect this organization to hire a real coach?

That's a good question...

HerculesRockefell
09-10-2006, 10:47 PM
Those #1 picks are way too expensive. They instantly become one of the highest paid players on your team, and they may not ever even play a game in the NFL.

No they're not. There's so many incentives built into those deals that if the player actually hits them all and hits the max value, you've got a franchise player to build a team around and no one is complaining.

That's like saying Cutler really did get $48M over 6 years, when in reality the true value is about half of that. If Cutler really did max out his contract, there'd be a mass suicide on this site because it would have meant he led the Broncos to more than a couple Super Bowl wins over the next 6 seasons.

Mecca
09-10-2006, 10:48 PM
No they're not. There's so many incentives built into those deals that if the player actually hits them all and hits the max value, you've got a franchise player to build a team around and no one is complaining.

That's like saying Cutler really did get $48M over 6 years, when in reality the true value is about half of that. If Cutler really did max out his contract, there'd be a mass suicide on this site because it would have meant he led the Broncos more than a couple Super Bowl wins over the next 6 seasons.

Only on Chiefsplanet will you find someone who doesn't want an elite player in the draft because "he costs to much".........like you're paying him out of your pocket or some shit.

Tribal Warfare
09-10-2006, 11:44 PM
1 ****in game, good lord there are alot of douch bags out after a week 1 loss!

It's understandable when the F*CKING leader of the team was knocked out of the game, and the unknown period that Green will be out :cuss:

Mr. Flopnuts
09-10-2006, 11:55 PM
Do I need to remind everybody Tfree is a Buccaneers fan? Maybe we should discuss their limp-wristed QB.


Anyone catch the size of the herpes sore on his mouth today? Daaaaaaaaamn!!!!!

Saggysack
09-11-2006, 12:39 AM
I'd be fine with a "clean slate" approach if I had more faith in our ability to evaluate talent.

As it stands, I think we need the proven players we've been able to pick up.

My fear would be that we would start over, expecting to compete again in a few years... only to see that "few years" turn into 15.

You're alittle late. They are in year 18.

Saggysack
09-11-2006, 12:46 AM
Ki-Jana Carter
Akili Smith

Marshall Faulk
Peyton Manning

We could keep this going for days...