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bkkcoh
09-12-2006, 07:09 AM
Is 10 1/2 points too many or just right.

CupidStunt
09-12-2006, 07:11 AM
I'd put money on Denver with that line.

Inspector
09-12-2006, 07:28 AM
That's all????

StcChief
09-12-2006, 07:55 AM
Just right. Vegas has a knack for making money on the line.

Bob Dole
09-12-2006, 07:57 AM
Actually, they were -11 on the early line.

jidar
09-12-2006, 07:59 AM
The answer is always "just right" It's Vegas, they do this better than anyone.

King_Chief_Fan
09-12-2006, 08:00 AM
Why is Vegas being negative about Dungver?

cdcox
09-12-2006, 08:12 AM
That seems high. Could the Chiefs drop from being a 10-6 team to a 6-10 team (or worse) in one season? Absolutely. But it's too soon to know that. Even with Huard at QB. In the game against the Bengals, nearly everything that could go wrong, went wrong. That is not going to happen in every game this year. The other variable, is that people really don't know how good the Broncos are going to be this year. I'd say a line of 8 to 9 points would be about right.

CupidStunt
09-12-2006, 08:16 AM
The Broncos barely lost, on the road, whilst still running for 180-some yards (or something like that), and playing extremely good defense against an offense that's better than what we have.

I don't see how we'll find the endzone when St. Louis didn't, and we sure as hell aren't going to stop their running game.

I'm surprised they aren't favored by around 12-13, covering the bookies for just under 2 touchdowns (but a thorough beatdown nonetheless).

bkkcoh
09-12-2006, 08:19 AM
Actually, they were -11 on the early line.


and that just depends on your source, this was from USA Today this morning. hence, early line, imho... :hmmm: :P

StcChief
09-12-2006, 08:19 AM
The Broncos barely lost, on the road, whilst still running for 180-some yards (or something like that), and playing extremely good defense against an offense that's better than what we have.

I don't see how we'll find the endzone when St. Louis didn't, and we sure as hell aren't going to stop their running game.

I'm surprised they aren't favored by around 12-13, covering the bookies for just under 2 touchdowns (but a thorough beatdown nonetheless).

Not sure which game you were watching...had both on here.

The Rams offense is so far off track. OLine is terrible so Jackson isn't effective. Bruce.....getting up there. Holt sitting may have something todo with it.

TE looked good.
C - McCollum is gone for year now.

I think they will struggle.

Their D was what amazed me, Hasslett is getting it done.

Bob Dole
09-12-2006, 08:32 AM
and that just depends on your source, this was from USA Today this morning. hence, early line, imho... :hmmm: :P

-11 was yesterday from Caesers and the Mirage.

But let's go with today's USA Today. It hurts a little less.

lightsout04
09-12-2006, 08:51 AM
KC's D needs to step up and watch the boot from Plumer.

DaFace
09-12-2006, 08:58 AM
Bad poll starter. We need a "just right" option.

Anyway, I don't see that as unreasonable. This past weekend may have been a fluke in some areas, but with Huard at the helm plus the fact that it's KC in Denver, it's going to take a small miracle for us to win.

For what it's worth, here are the results of our last five visits to Denver:
2001 - 6-20 (14)
2002 - 24-31 (7)
2003 - 27-45 (18)
2004 - 24-34 (10)
2005 - 10-30 (20)
AVERAGE LOSS - 13.8

jspchief
09-12-2006, 09:06 AM
The answer is always "just right" It's Vegas, they do this better than anyone.I wouldn't say "always". Vegas lost their ass last year on favorites covering.

As for this spread, it's low. Denver is going to give us an ass-kicking of biblical proportions.

Bob Dole
09-12-2006, 09:27 AM
I wouldn't say "always". Vegas lost their ass last year on favorites covering.

As for this spread, it's low. Denver is going to give us an ass-kicking of biblical proportions.

Biblical in what sense?

(Bob Dole needs to know how to stock the liquor cabinet.)

jspchief
09-12-2006, 09:30 AM
Biblical in what sense?

(Bob Dole needs to know how to stock the liquor cabinet.)Wasn't there something with insects and frogs? That bad.

Denver usually kills us at Pile High anyway. They usually kill us early in the year. They usually get a lot of pressure on Green.

This game is going to be scary bad. The type of game a team doesn't recover from.

Jmart
09-12-2006, 10:55 AM
I am teasing the ke-rap out of Denver with every friggin team in the league. No way Chiefs will cover a 5-point line.

Jmart
09-12-2006, 10:58 AM
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Frazod
09-12-2006, 11:03 AM
Sadly, I think it's too little. Hope I'm wrong, but if the Bungles can cut through our alleged offensive line like a knife through warm butter at Arrowhead, the Donx might as well just line up in our backfield, because they'll be there about that quickly.

F#ck. :shake:

shaneo69
09-12-2006, 11:03 AM
Wasn't there something with insects and frogs? That bad.

Denver usually kills us at Pile High anyway. They usually kill us early in the year. They usually get a lot of pressure on Green.

This game is going to be scary bad. The type of game a team doesn't recover from.

Yup....I'll say 35-3.

CupidStunt
09-12-2006, 11:23 AM
JMart, where the hell did you find Detroit at +14.5? That's freaking absurd.

As for predictions? I'll say Denver 30, KC 10. Similar to last year's game but worse. The Broncos have a comfortable 21-3 lead into the 3rd quarter and just keep running and settling for field goals, whilst the Cheifs get a garbage time touchdown to Gonzalez with 3 or 4 minutes left.

Jmart
09-12-2006, 11:47 AM
JMart, where the hell did you find Detroit at +14.5? That's freaking absurd.



I bet at Bodog. It's a teaser bet, which means I get six points on each game and it's basically equal to a straight bet for the odds, but both games must win to cash the ticket.

Teased the Broncos down to 5 and the Lions up to 14 1/2.

Calcountry
09-12-2006, 12:30 PM
Bad poll starter. We need a "just right" option.

Anyway, I don't see that as unreasonable. This past weekend may have been a fluke in some areas, but with Huard at the helm plus the fact that it's KC in Denver, it's going to take a small miracle for us to win.

For what it's worth, here are the results of our last five visits to Denver:
2001 - 6-20 (14)
2002 - 24-31 (7)
2003 - 27-45 (18)
2004 - 24-34 (10)
2005 - 10-30 (20)
AVERAGE LOSS - 13.8The only thing that would shake up our pathetic track record with Denver this year, is the New Coach.

Bottom line, it won't be enough.

Calcountry
09-12-2006, 12:32 PM
Sadly, I think it's too little. Hope I'm wrong, but if the Bungles can cut through our alleged offensive line like a knife through warm butter at Arrowhead, the Donx might as well just line up in our backfield, because they'll be there about that quickly.

F#ck. :shake:It might be as bad as the Chargers getting too the Raiders.

Suddenly, my Childhood memories of the Chiefs are all coming back to me.

ping2000
09-12-2006, 12:39 PM
I wouldn't say "always". Vegas lost their ass last year on favorites covering.

As for this spread, it's low. Denver is going to give us an ass-kicking of biblical proportions.

Vegas never loses it ass. Lines are put out there to get equal amounts of money bet on both sides.

Jmart
09-12-2006, 12:47 PM
Vegas never loses it ass. Lines are put out there to get equal amounts of money bet on both sides.

I wouldn't say Vegas "never" loses its ass, there are several weeks during the season the books lose but it usualy evens out during the course of the season. And lines are not always set to get even money on both sides (that is what the books would like, but it's nearly impossible to achieve and books usualy have a 'stake' in almost every game on any given weekend). They know the 'public' bets favorites and certain 'public teams' and they usualy shade the line or add points because they know that is where the action will fall no matter what the line is.

Jmart
09-12-2006, 12:50 PM
It might be as bad as the Chargers getting too the Raiders.

Suddenly, my Childhood memories of the Chiefs are all coming back to me.
In Vegas the books aren't there to make a lot of money, they are there as an ammenity for customers and they make the casino more attractive to potential visitors. Their goal is to eek out a small winning percentage.

Same with offshore books, except they are very profitable just because of the sheer volume of customers/betting handle.

Garcia Bronco
09-12-2006, 12:50 PM
There is no tape on Huard.

MOhillbilly
09-12-2006, 12:53 PM
This game is going to be scary bad. The type of game a team doesn't recover from.

ROFL