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chiefsfan58
12-27-2000, 12:57 PM
NEW YORK (AP) -- Marshall Faulk's record-setting ride for the St. Louis Rams earned him the NFL's Most Valuable Player award in balloting conducted by The Associated Press and announced Wednesday.

I was kinda pulling for Gannon, but oh well, it's hard to vote against 26 tds. <BR>

morphius
12-27-2000, 12:58 PM
All I have to say is thank God gannon didn't win...

Spott
12-27-2000, 01:01 PM
I second that. I couldn't stand to think of the queen bee on the "other" board gloating about little Richie.

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Mosbonian
12-27-2000, 01:05 PM
Evidently the voters didn't think as highly of Gannon's performance as they did of those by Faulk, McNabb, or Eddie George.

My guess is that they looked at the fact that the Raiders have a well balanced team and would win without Gannon(IMO) and decided that the others were more deserving.

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chiefsfan58
12-27-2000, 01:05 PM
Ouch... Faulk and George AND McNabb got more votes than Gannon.

[This message has been edited by chiefsfan58 (edited 12-27-2000).]

chiefsfan58
12-27-2000, 01:09 PM
Here's the numbers:

Faulk, 27 and in his seventh NFL season, received 24 votes from a nationwide panel of 50 sports writers and broadcasters. He beat Philadelphia quarterback Donovan McNabb (11), Tennessee running back Eddie George (8), Oakland quarterback Rich Gannon (5), Indianapolis quarterback Peyton Manning (1) and Baltimore linebacker Ray Lewis (1).

BigMeatballDave
12-27-2000, 01:09 PM
I`m elated Gannon didn`t get it!
Why do Chiefs fans pull for Raider players?!
I wouldn`t piss on Gannon if he were on fire!!!

morphius
12-27-2000, 01:19 PM
I'm glad to see that he was nt even the number 1 QB on the list, it is not like his passing yards were very high at all.

ct
12-27-2000, 01:37 PM
I personally would vote for McNabb. Take him off that team and they are LUCKY to finish as well as LAST season, 3-13 I believe. Take Faulk, George, Gannon off thier respective clubs, and you'll still have 3 playoff teams.

BUT, hard to really argue with 26 TDs. Very impressive considering a position player outscored every other player(kickers included) by 25 points!!

BTW, Ray Lewis?!? :rolleyes:

ct

Baby Lee
12-27-2000, 01:46 PM
Sorry, but the Titans without Eddie George are the Pittsburgh Steelers. the Rams without Faulk are the 49'ers. Neither of the those teams are in the playoffs without them, in theory or in fact.

[This message has been edited by JC-Johnny (edited 12-27-2000).]

BigMeatballDave
12-27-2000, 02:00 PM
I completely agree with Johnny(#9).
Both teams would be out of the play-offs.
But, Philly would be hopeless wothout McNabb.

I don`t argue Faulk winning this-just think McNabb was more deserving.

Phobia
12-27-2000, 02:13 PM
I think Faulk is very deserving. If the Vikes didn't go on a 3 game skid, I think their QB takes the MVP. Faulk came on VERY hard at the end of the year and if he didn't miss 2 games early on he takes the MVP running away.

I'll not belabor the Gannon candidacy. It's been beat to death and frankly is moot.

Iowanian
12-27-2000, 02:44 PM
I'm glad for Faulk with 1 exception...it gives that lambs fans fodder for excreting more BS next year....I thought Faulk should have gotten this award last year.

I'm really really glad gannon didn't win...other places are sometimes unbearable enough...

Cannibal
12-27-2000, 06:03 PM
The Raiders with Bobby Hoying at QB are NOT a playoff team.

You people can bash Gannon all you want, but he IS very important to that ball club.

[This message has been edited by Cannibal (edited 12-27-2000).]

ct
12-28-2000, 08:42 AM
OK OK, I give already!! I was exagerating a bit, Ok, hugely exagerated. My point is there is a ton of talent on STL, OAK, TEN(maybe not a ton, but still plenty) rosters minus the aforementioned MVP candidates, IND as well. Who else does Philly have? A good young TE, and, uh, well, ....

Anyway, that's the only point I was attempting to make.

ct

Mark M
12-28-2000, 08:50 AM
As much as I hate the Lambs, the guy was very deserving. Great player, class act.

And coryt brings up a very good point...Ray Lewis??? WTF??? How in the hell does a guy who witnessed a murder, lied about it and then snitched even in consideration? I know, he's paid his debt and is a very solid player and we should forgive yadda yadda yadda. It just irritates me that some folks (none here...well, maybe Kenny) still can't see that, while a person may be a great player, the type of person they are should matter. I'm not for a higher standard for athletes...just a standard would do fine.

MM
~~Wonders if Elvis would win MVP if he won a playoff game...?

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Over-Head
12-28-2000, 01:48 PM
I'll give props to Faulk....But of cource I was pulling for Gannon.
The man ,after being let go from 3 other clubs,took an 8-8 team,with what was considered medium tallent,and won the AFC west div.
Sorry,,,but would really like to have seen him get it.


............GO Raiders

ct
12-28-2000, 01:54 PM
And if it were Grbac in that situation(despite the continued doubts I have with him), I'd have wanted him to win the MVP. Believe that's called homerism, and proud of it!!

ct
btw, raiders still suck

Baby Lee
12-28-2000, 01:56 PM
Yeah, but Elvis has never won a playoff game!!

ct
12-28-2000, 02:14 PM
Brings up an interesting question, and this time it's not rhetorical, I genuinely do not know. What is the Great Bitchie's Richie Gannon's post-season record as a starting QB?

Believe he has started at least reg. season games for:
Minnesota ? ,
Washington ? ,
KC (pretty sure no playoff STARTS in KC),
Oakland (no playoff appearances here I know)

Anyone?

ct

ct
12-28-2000, 03:28 PM
My preliminary research shows me that Rich Gannon has never won a playoff game!!!

Therefore, using the infallible Packfan logical deduction, Gannon is a worthless bum.
OH, you should rid yourself of such a cap-sucking cancer, and find yourself an Elvis Grbac.

ct