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Fire Me Boy!
09-17-2006, 11:09 AM
So I let the inner geek in my out on Tuesday and bought the "new" original theatrical release DVDs of Star Wars. Watched Ep. 4 on Wednesday, Ep. 5 last night and just finished Ep. 6 this morning before the football games started.

I just gotta say, aside from being sick, things are right in the world again. Greedo never shoots. Anakin is not Hayden Christensen. Things are good.

Douche Baggins
09-17-2006, 11:10 AM
They're shitty laserdisc rips. They didn't even bother to clean them up. No thanks.

I'll take my pristine special editions without the matte lines.

Deberg_1990
09-17-2006, 11:12 AM
I dont think i will be buying them. No Anamorphic widescreen wich sucks if you have a WS TV. I watched a few scenes from the last box set wit my kids the other day. I must say, the picture and sound is outstanding. Yes, Han shoots first, but i really cant complain too much.

Fire Me Boy!
09-17-2006, 11:12 AM
They're shitty laserdisc rips. They didn't even bother to clean them up. No thanks.

I'll take my pristine special editions without the matte lines.
I know that, but I'd rather have "shitty laserdisc rips" than Greedo shooting first, thank you very much.

And I have the actual laserdiscs, but get tired of flipping them over ever 45 minutes.

Fire Me Boy!
09-17-2006, 11:14 AM
I dont think i will be buying them. No Anamorphic widescreen wich sucks if you have a WS TV. I watched a few scenes from the last box set wit my kids the other day. I must say, the picture and sound is outstanding. Yes, Han shoots first, but i really cant complain too much.
To each his own, and while I have a WS tv and would LOVE to have the anamorphic widescreen, I would rather sacrifice the quality and have the artistic integrity of the film hold up. Give me the originals ANY DAY over the SE.

Gravedigger
09-17-2006, 11:14 AM
The only thing I would like to see the originals for is that at the end of RoTJ you get to see the actor that plays Darth Vader in the suit but in the redone version dvd's they released they replaced the old vader with Hayden Christiansan .... crappy move I must say AND THEN they don't replace the old Obi Wan with Ewan Mcgregor. That screw up still boggles my mind.

keg in kc
09-17-2006, 11:17 AM
To each his own, and while I have a WS tv and would LOVE to have the anamorphic widescreen, I would rather sacrifice the quality and have the artistic integrity of the film hold up. Give me the originals ANY DAY over the SE.Wouldn't the special editions be the ones with the true "artistic integrity" since Lucas hmself made the changes to make the films closer to his vision?

Deberg_1990
09-17-2006, 11:17 AM
The only thing I would like to see the originals for is that at the end of RoTJ you get to see the actor that plays Darth Vader in the suit but in the redone version dvd's they released they replaced the old vader with Hayden Christiansan .... crappy move I must say AND THEN they don't replace the old Obi Wan with Ewan Mcgregor. That screw up still boggles my mind.

Agreed.....WTF was Lucas thinking??? But i guess you could say that about alot of his revisionist ideas.

Deberg_1990
09-17-2006, 11:22 AM
In interested in seeing the new cut of Superman 2 (The Donner cut) that comes out in Late November.

Sure-Oz
09-17-2006, 11:51 AM
I dont care that much to have the originals, ill just keep the special edition set i have, screw dishin out more money to lucas.

SNR
09-17-2006, 11:59 AM
I still have the originals on VHS. Classic is better

Douche Baggins
09-17-2006, 12:04 PM
I still have the originals on VHS. Classic is better

Yeah. I love the ones I taped off the USA Network. I can masturbate to the "Wings" commercials.

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Fire Me Boy!
09-17-2006, 12:08 PM
Wouldn't the special editions be the ones with the true "artistic integrity" since Lucas hmself made the changes to make the films closer to his vision?
Depends on whether or not you remember Lucas and Spielberg talking in the mid-1980s in front of a Congressional panel about how films should not be altered from the original, even colorized.

keg in kc
09-17-2006, 12:09 PM
Depends on whether or not you remember Lucas and Spielberg talking in the mid-1980s in front of a Congressional panel about how films should not be altered from the original, even colorized.Were they talking about films being Turner-ized, or films being changed by the filmmakers themselves?

Deberg_1990
09-17-2006, 12:12 PM
I wonder how many times these films have been released to video/LD or DVD???

The ones i can think of anyways:

The old 1980s VHS versions

A VHS box set that came out around 1990 or so?

The THX remastered LD Box set versions around 1995.

Then there was another LD version witout all the fancey extras that came out a year or so after that. (Which i actually own)


The came the Special Editions. and of course they were not released on DVD until just a few years ago....anyone remember any others??

Frazod
09-17-2006, 12:20 PM
Darth Lucas gets no more of my money. 4321

RINGLEADER
09-17-2006, 12:22 PM
I've got to pick them up - laserdisc rips or not. I'll need something to turn to when Lucas releases his definitive boxed set of all six movies and has Alec Guinness jumping off of walls during the light sabre duel with Vader in Episode 4 or decides to create fake versions of actors so he can put them in new exciting situations that never existed in the original movies...

You know it's coming...

Fire Me Boy!
09-17-2006, 12:23 PM
Were they talking about films being Turner-ized, or films being changed by the filmmakers themselves?
"I am very concerned about our national heritage, and I am very concerned that the films that I watched when I was young and the films that I watched throughout my life are preserved, so that my children can see them," said Star Wars creator George Lucas.

Fire Me Boy!
09-17-2006, 12:25 PM
“Star Wars” creator George Lucas, who testified with Steven Spielberg before Congress in the 1980s against colorization and other forms of alteration, said the process yanks such slapstick performers as the Stooge's out of the black-and-white universe they belong in.

Frazod
09-17-2006, 12:28 PM
“Star Wars” creator George Lucas, who testified with Steven Spielberg before Congress in the 1980s against colorization and other forms of alteration, said the process yanks such slapstick performers as the Stooge's out of the black-and-white universe they belong in.

Do as I say, not as I do. :shake:

Fire Me Boy!
09-17-2006, 12:34 PM
Do as I say, not as I do. :shake:
:thumb:

keg in kc
09-17-2006, 12:37 PM
So to answer my question, they were indeed talking about Turner-ization.

If they weren't, then they're also against the director's cut DVDs and extended-edition DVDs that we get with virtually every film released these days.

Fire Me Boy!
09-17-2006, 12:49 PM
So to answer my question, they were indeed talking about Turner-ization.

If they weren't, then they're also against the director's cut DVDs and extended-edition DVDs that we get with virtually every film released these days.
In the 1980s, they were talking about any changing of the original film. I think there is an argument to be made that a "director's cut" is still the ORIGINAL film, while these "special editions" Lucas gave us a few years ago were not original... they were not using technology available in 1977 when they inserted a digital Jabba or digitally twisted Han's head so he dodged Greedo's laser.

Reread this quote from Lucas himself: "I am very concerned about our national heritage, and I am very concerned that the films that I watched when I was young and the films that I watched throughout my life are preserved, so that my children can see them," said Star Wars creator George Lucas.

Lucas was concerned that the films he watched as a child be preserved in their ORIGINAL form so that his children could see them. But he doesn't hold himself to the same standard.