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58Forever
12-28-2000, 12:49 PM
usually when the season is over, win or lose, playoffs or not, I am full of hope for the next year...not this year...I'm full of dread...

the players, some if not most, feel no loyalty to Gun...justifyably imo...and I'm sure more than a few will leave rather then stay if something positive isn't done.

Grbac, may not be here next year...they have to renegotiate...the Chiefs can't take the 10 mil hit...but Grbac deserves a raise, and more freedom to call his own plays...so Grbac stays if we give him more freedom and get rid of JR...

It's all up to King Carl...will he be able to appease the players if he keeps Gun?...will he fire Gun?...if he keeps Gun, will Gun get rid of the stooges?...will CP get Grbac under contract without or will he just say **** you, we can't afford you...and start a new "five" year plan...I couldn't handle that...

Will Carl go after the big name RB?...can we afford it?

So many questions and no answers...I guess the next couple of months will be very interesting...I hope that what I see turns my dread to hope again...

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joe

"The word "genius" isn't applicable in football. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein."
-Joe Theisman, NFL football quarterback and sports analyst

bkkcoh
12-28-2000, 12:55 PM
I am hoping that a condition of Gun keeping his job would be cleaning out the office space of the stooges. Granted this should have been done last year. I am really torn on whether or not JR should be kept. The offense has been pretty good the last 2 years. He just needs to mix it up more, not be so predictable. It would be intersting to hear what JR plans to do next year to become less predictable.



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Brian K.

If we don't change direction soon, we'll end up where we're going.

[i]Professor Irwin Corey </I>

morphius
12-28-2000, 12:56 PM
Joe - Here is an interesting fact, Chiefs were number 15 in penalty yards this year and were tied with Oakland for forth in number of penalties. So one thing improved from last year, other then the passing game.

TEX
12-28-2000, 12:57 PM
If Carl signs Dillon, Raye has no problem.

Clint in Wichita
12-28-2000, 12:59 PM
58 Forever,

I felt sorry for you until you mentioned "Grbac calling his own plays".

Now I think I feel much worse than you.

Maybe "offensive guru" Lancelot Link is available!!

Mi_chief_fan
12-28-2000, 02:17 PM
Now i'm positive your from Missouri. Only a native Missourian would quote a song from 'Hee Haw.'

morphius
12-28-2000, 02:24 PM
MI - Odd that it was someone in MI that knew that and knew enough to point it out.

Morphius
No idea what quote MI is talking about.

Over-Head
12-28-2000, 02:28 PM
Think your worried??? Rumer has it were going to cut Jett (no great loss) and Duddly to make room for Rice who has already stated he's not leaving the bay area but wants to play next year!
Gannons good! But he aint got nthe long arm for Brown,Rison AND Rice


............Go Raiders

58Forever
12-28-2000, 02:29 PM
Come on MI, the Hee Haw girls were babes in their day...and Morph is right, it took a non-Missourian to point it out...

want the whole verse?...I know it sad as that is...besides the hooters the girls always flashed on the show, that song is the only thing I remember...

Clint, I heard or read that that was something that EG wants...the ability to call more of his own plays...and you know what, I'm not going to argue with him...he may know better what to call then JR...

So much work to do...I hope King Carl doesn't sit on his *** for the next two months...hope I start hearing or reading about changes now...



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joe

"The word "genius" isn't applicable in football. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein."
-Joe Theisman, NFL football quarterback and sports analyst

Baby Lee
12-28-2000, 02:30 PM
but you met another and [pppphhhbbttt] you were gone.

Gloom, despair and agony on me. . . Oh-oohh!!
Deep, dark depression, excessive misery.
If it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all. . . Oh-oohh!
Gloom, despair and agony on me.

[then a plank out of the fence would swing forward and boot the guest star in the butt].

[This message has been edited by JC-Johnny (edited 12-28-2000).]

morphius
12-28-2000, 02:31 PM
OH - "But he aint got the long arm for Brown,Rison AND Rice", seems pretty much right on the money to me.

58Forever
12-28-2000, 02:32 PM
Over-head, thanks for trying to cheer me up but even bad/good news about the Raiders won't cheer me up...now, next year, when Rison is bitching and moaning because he doesn't want to share time with Rice...that will cheer me up...you guys are gonna regret signing Rison... :p

[This message has been edited by 58Forever (edited 12-28-2000).]

Mi_chief_fan
12-28-2000, 02:34 PM
My parents are native Missourians, and every saturday had that stupid show on.

i did kinda like the girls though..... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/ubb/wink.gif

Baby Lee
12-28-2000, 02:34 PM
A lot was made earlier in the week that pRison was belly-aching that Rice would mess up the mix. But I saw somewhere yesterday that Gannon was saying pretty strongly that HE didn't want Rice there either.

Has the makings of a chemistry disaster in Oaktown [rubbing hands gleefully].

58Forever
12-28-2000, 02:37 PM
JC, if that is true, then that does cheer me up a little...nothing like hearing bad things coming out of other camps...and from a team that's going to the playoffs... :D

MI..."I did kind of like the girls though"...right if you were like most red blooded men, you drooled over Misty Rowe as much as I did... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Mi_chief_fan
12-28-2000, 02:41 PM
I can honestly say I didn't know any of the girls by name. They all looked pretty damn good.

Iowanian
12-28-2000, 03:14 PM
you guys are bringing back some mighty powerful nostalgia from my childhood....sunday night was the one time my folks didn't think there was something better to do than watch tv....football during the day was a "waste of time"

HeeHaw, Maverick,and The Grand Ol' Opry...

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"Anyone who wouldn't cheat for a poke, doesn't want one bad enough."[i] Augustus McCray</I>

Mi_chief_fan
12-28-2000, 03:56 PM
Saturday nights were The Muppets(for us kids), Hee Haw and Airwolf.

They just don't make TV shows like they used to..................

Iowanian
12-28-2000, 03:59 PM
mi,

While the saturday selection was classic, I think you forget about the star studded and intellectually stimulating friday nights...dukes, dallas, and i can't remember the other one....oooohhhhh Daisey :rolleyes:

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"Anyone who wouldn't cheat for a poke, doesn't want one bad enough."[i] Augustus McCray</I>

Mi_chief_fan
12-28-2000, 04:08 PM
Falcon Crest, of course! AAAAHHHHHHH, the Dukes of Hazard & Dallas.

Pardon me. I'm getting a little verclempt(as Mike Myers would say).All this reminiscing about my redneck childhood.

stevieray
12-28-2000, 04:18 PM
Gunsmoke...I remember the Wonderful World of Disney on Sunday nights.

Does anyone remember Bowling for Dollars?

AustinChief
12-28-2000, 04:20 PM
Falcon Crest!!!

Do you guys remember Jane Wyman?

She was from ST. Joseph!!

--Kyle

Iowanian
12-28-2000, 04:21 PM
of course...gun smoke and Big Valley....

I remember when we went to my grandparents watching friday night fights(my grandfather had reasons, but we can deal with that another day) and Friday Fright Night...the old Frankestien, dracula, etc....now there is just soooo much crap on...

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"Anyone who wouldn't cheat for a poke, doesn't want one bad enough."[i] Augustus McCray</I>

Mi_chief_fan
12-28-2000, 04:24 PM
Sorry dude. I'm only 27. Gunsmoke was long gone by the time I started watching TV.

stevieray
12-28-2000, 04:25 PM
Don Kirshner's Rock Concert and The Midnight Special with Wolfman Jack...

Iowanian
12-28-2000, 04:26 PM
mi,

i'm 27 too, and i remember gunsmoke and even the b/w original little rascals when i was little....

I never thought I'd see the day when I was saying things like "back in the day, or when i was a kid"....i'm starting to say the stuff my dad did, that I swore I wouldn't....you parents definitely smarter than kids give you credit....

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"Anyone who wouldn't cheat for a poke, doesn't want one bad enough."[i] Augustus McCray</I>

stevieray
12-28-2000, 04:29 PM
Kenny Rogers married one of the Hee Haw girls...

Mi_chief_fan
12-28-2000, 04:29 PM
Yeah, i've seen those shows in syndication, but they were well past their popularity. I do have to admit: I remember when Little house on the prairie, Fantasy Island, The Love Boat, etc. were popular shows.

That makes me feel old.

Mi_chief_fan
12-28-2000, 04:34 PM
Speaking of The Love Boat, wasn't Gopher a congressman/senator from........[b]IOWA!</B>

DanT
12-28-2000, 10:59 PM
Hey AustinChief,

Not only was Jane Wyman from St. Joseph, but she and Ronald Reagan were married (divorced in 1948). [Not that I ever watched Falcon Crest for more than the time it took to change the channel!] Walter Cronkite was also born in St. Joseph, if I'm not mistaken.
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Boulevard/7734/jwyman.htm

[This message has been edited by DanT (edited 12-28-2000).]

Iowanian
12-29-2000, 08:50 AM
stevie ray,

I think kenny rogers really must have "know when to holdem'"

Mi,
I think you are right about gopher..but I'm not sure what he was, I didn't exactly care about politics then..

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"Anyone who wouldn't cheat for a poke, doesn't want one bad enough."[i] Augustus McCray</I>

alanm
12-29-2000, 12:09 PM
Saturday nights, Gunsmoke and Hawaii 5-0 and then it was out the door to mischief and mayhem.