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Marty McDonald
01-03-2001, 07:39 AM
Chief fans-

The Chiefs have 86-ed three assistant coaches. I do not know names yet, but will find out. My source is tight lipped on this one.

Also, the Redskins want to interview Marty Schottehimer. This story will be up on www.nflscoop.com (http://www.nflscoop.com) shortly

Mi_chief_fan
01-03-2001, 07:41 AM
Thanls Marty. I'll stay tuned until something happens. What's your best guess?

Marty McDonald
01-03-2001, 07:48 AM
this is my last post for the next couple of hours while I update the site. No matter how much Nyquil I consume, I can't get rid of this cold.

Official word is expected to come down next week, but I think the defensive coordinator is gone, the special teams coach and possibly the RB coach (this one I am unsure about)

Back to writing<BR>

KCTitus
01-03-2001, 07:57 AM
Only 3? damn.

morphius
01-03-2001, 08:13 AM
Marty - Thanks for the heads up. I have the same issue, with the cold, I have determined it to be a sinus infection and finally get to see a Doc tomorrow, yuck.

ct
01-03-2001, 08:22 AM
Well, if Marty is correct, and my guess is he is, than 2 outa 3 ain't bad...for now!

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Forget Dillon! [b]Give TRich the Ball!!!</B>

chiefsfan58
01-03-2001, 09:23 AM
ONLY 5 POSTS???

2 OF THE 3 STOOGES ARE GONE!!!!

WAHOO!!!!!!!!!!

58Forever
01-03-2001, 09:25 AM
Me thinks Jimmy Raye stays as long as Gun stays and as long as Elvis wants him...if Elvis resigns that is...Elvis has a lot of leverage against the King...if Carl doesn't commit to EG...I will officially become a Carl basher...

We need Elvis, we don't need the stooges...

Gaz
01-03-2001, 09:28 AM
chiefsfan58-

2 of 4 Stooges, to be exact.

While this IS good news, it is not enough. I am waiting for the announcement concerning Gunther and Raye with bated breath. It is entirely possible that we will have both of them back next season. Which equates to a wasted season, IMO.

Still, it's a start…

xoxo~
gaz
trying to be satisfied with 50% success.<BR>

Marty McDonald
01-03-2001, 09:29 AM
Chief Fans,

Here is why you are not seeing anyone hired by KC right now. Most of you do not know about this rule, but a source close to the league just brought me up to speed.

Apparently, no coach who is under contract may be contacted until permission is granted by that team's owner under new rules initiated this season. In addition, there is a 15-day waiting period after a team ends its season.

Hope this helps

ChiTown
01-03-2001, 09:37 AM
Marty

Thanks for the clarification, but there is no reason that the Chiefs should not have dismissed the entire coaching staff after the Atlanta game. No staff in the league underprepared or underachieved greater than the KC Chiefs coaches. They were pathetic when they needed wins badly (TN, OAK, SF, Buf, SD, NE). Those 6 losses could be handed straight to the coaching staff. Completely unacceptble in my book.

ChiTown
~not willing to accept a 50% dismissal as an accomplishment

MrBlond
01-03-2001, 09:41 AM
Marty,
You mention Schottenheimer, is it true the Chiefs are due compensation if another team signs him? I have heard conflicting reports on this.

ChiTown
01-03-2001, 09:44 AM
By the way, I do want to give the Chiefs coaching staff their kudos for 2 games this year: STL and Denver home game.

Those were the only two games that I watched where the players looked inspired and a game plan was actually executed. Beyond that, Magoo and his staff have been sleeping at the wheel.

ChiTown
~wishing he were getting prepared to watch the Chiefs play this weekend :mad:

DeepSouth
01-03-2001, 09:44 AM
The scary part about this news is that there is no mention of Willie Shaw. Where does that leave him. If he is promoted to defensive coordinator, I don't see things getting any better. If he isn't promoted, would he stay with the Chiefs if another defensive coordinator is brought in?

HC_Chief
01-03-2001, 09:46 AM
This team needs to be gutted!

Rick Stephens
01-03-2001, 09:47 AM
The Chiefs are due compensation if someone signs Marty Schottenheimer.

gonzo88
01-03-2001, 10:04 AM
Do you guys realy think that Marty would work for a control freak like Schneider? I see him going to the jets before the redskins.

And yes, we do get compensation if someone hires him.

[This message has been edited by gonzo88 (edited 01-03-2001).]

Bricky
01-03-2001, 10:09 AM
The Rams have a 10-6 season and a playoff game and they fire more coaches than the Chiefs?

Less than average is acceptable in KC but better than .500 is not acceptable in St. Louis? Kinda tells you something about the organization's philosophy.

Tell me I am wrong, please.

donkhater
01-03-2001, 10:09 AM
Keep an eye on this...

Houston has said that they will not begin looking for a coach until after the 2001 season. Schottenhiemer has indicated that he might be interested in that job. His contract with KC will be over after next season, and KC will not be due compensation

ChiTown
01-03-2001, 10:09 AM
Marty has already been quoted in the papers saying that he would have very little interest in working under the Skins owner. He is looking to work for another owner like Lamar, where he has more autonomy.

ansonsdad
01-03-2001, 10:14 AM
DeepSouth-I agree about Shaw,we brought him in last year and our defense played the worst it has in years.If he gets promoted I'll be pissed!
Several weeks back(after Norv Turner was fired)on NFL Tonite, Marty said something to the effect of he wouldn't want to coach for an owner like Snyder.

Baby Lee
01-03-2001, 10:29 AM
Although I agree that a coaching staff change-up is probably necessary here. And although it is tempting to draw parallels now that we have nothing better to do with our time, you cannot directly compare the Rams' firings and the Chiefs' inaction and say 'well they are firing everyone, ain't that grand, we should too, and faster.'

While, again, the Stooges have demonstrated incompetence on a level that Carl should rent those Pamplona Bulls to escort them out of town, I'm gonna predict that that the Rams' firings turn out to be a bonehead move. This same staff coached this same team to a SB a year ago with a defense that gave the O the wiggle room to perform as it did. Last year's D was impressive.
Bud Carson was brought in as a saviour and failed to close the deal. Now he's all they got. And I can guarantee that the players had little or no input on whether the caoches were the problem. This was a knee-jerk PR stunt by the Rams, as wrong for their franchise as the Carl's cautiousness is for ours.
Hair-trigger firings are an Al Davis staple. That is one of the many Al Davis personality traits I don't want to see co-opted by the Chiefs organization.

Baby Lee
01-03-2001, 10:33 AM
Speaking of Schott maybe going to the JETS, has anyone seen the news on Bryan Cox's contract. Looks like he can get out of it if he wants. Most say he will leave is the Tuna does. what about is Schott takes over? Could this player-coach combo work? Would Cox want it to? Would Schott want it to.

And if not, can the Chiefs get him?

[This message has been edited by JC-Johnny (edited 01-03-2001).]

Brock
01-03-2001, 10:34 AM
Last year, the Rams defense was just good enough. They won the Super Bowl by 1 inch. They absolutely have to make a change.

Baby Lee
01-03-2001, 10:46 AM
Brock, I don't know if you're being tongue in cheek, but I coveted the Rams D last year more than that 'amazing O.' The O would give them these HUGE cushions, early and often. 21-0, 24-0 in the first quarter, and they would still hold the opposition to 10-12 points.

Bricky
01-03-2001, 10:46 AM
JC, I agree with you on the Rams. I wanted to get some opinions on comparing the two organizations. If the Chiefs don't make some drastic changes (head coach) then that tells me they aren't serious about going to the superbowl.

Brock
01-03-2001, 10:50 AM
what happened in the Super Bowl?

Baby Lee
01-03-2001, 10:53 AM
Uhh, they played the second-best team on the face of the earth [that year]. And so far as I can recall, held them to 16 points.

[This message has been edited by JC-Johnny (edited 01-03-2001).]

ChiTown
01-03-2001, 11:00 AM
JC-J

If you really look at the Rams Defense in '99-2000, your own theory will break down your point. Because STL was able to jump all over teams early and often, the opposition was forced to get out of their offensive game plan to get back into the game. That means a lot of passing, and subsequently a lot of defensive rushing. When teams were actually able to stop STL, like in 2000, their defense was unable to stop a consistent pass/rush attack.

Their true defensive scheme and lack of overall defensive talent was exposed in 2000. They have very little to covet IMO. The Chiefs D would have looked equally impressive with all of the firepower STL had in '99.

Brock
01-03-2001, 11:06 AM
They got over on offensive powerhouses like Cleveland and Cincinnati.

Baby Lee
01-03-2001, 11:09 AM
I disagree because of the '99-'00 playoffs, as well as their first loss to the Titans. In those cases, the O was stymied and the D STILL rose to the occassion. If I recall, the first two scores for the Titans in the regular season game were defensive scores, or right off TOs.
Hey, a lot of things were different for the Rams in 2000. Not the least of which was the St. Louis' utter failure to get the Pope and Billy Graham to return to the TWA Dome. But that D was solid in '99.

Bricky
01-03-2001, 11:10 AM
Don't know about the rest of you, but I would gladly take a Chiefs Super Bowl win by one inch, with a great offense, less than great defense, and regular season games against Cleveland and Cinci.

Would like to see Lamar Hunt get the Lamar Hunt trophy.

Clint in Wichita
01-03-2001, 11:19 AM
GOD I'm getting sick of this crap!!

There's a Peterson press conference, then there isn't.

Two coaches get fired, but for some mysterious reason their names can't be released.

I wonder if Carl is posting on this BB?!

G_Man
01-03-2001, 01:34 PM
Great. Now we can hear about Shaw's promotion and some other idiot being hired as STs coach. We've already seen the type of people Gunther hires, and they aren't quality coaches. HE'S the problem. If he isn't fired we get to have another year of his "The coaches aren't on the same page as me" speeches. How this guy could keep his job is way beyond me.

Spott
01-03-2001, 02:14 PM
I don't see Marty going to DC working under a control freak like Snyder & trying to coach a cancer like Jeff George.

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