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Detoxing
10-01-2006, 03:13 PM
Anyone see him kick that cowboy in the head with his helmet off? That bastard should be suspended for the season for some shit like that.

meStevo
10-01-2006, 03:14 PM
F the season, that was beyond unsportsmanslike, they should press charges. Cleats to the forehead?

ChiefsfaninPA
10-01-2006, 03:14 PM
Anyone see him kick that cowboy in the head with his helmet off? That bastard should be suspended for the season for some shit like that.

Didn't catch it, I am sure it will be all over the high-lite shows.

ArrowheadHawk
10-01-2006, 03:15 PM
we need a vid of this if this is true that is total bullshit....

i thought romo had retired

JBucc
10-01-2006, 03:15 PM
Kick him out of football

Rain Man
10-01-2006, 03:15 PM
That was a WWF move. He scraped his cleats on the guy's forehead. If the victim was anyone other than Trent Green, he's in for a big fine.

Bwana
10-01-2006, 03:15 PM
Nope, didn't see it.

Detoxing
10-01-2006, 03:15 PM
F the season, that was beyond unsportsmanslike, they should press charges. Cleats the forehead?

you're right, press charges for something like that. that guy deserves anything he has coming to him and then some.

PastorMikH
10-01-2006, 03:16 PM
He'll probably get into a lot of trouble for that since it wasn't a Chiefs player that he did that to.

Rain Man
10-01-2006, 03:18 PM
It makes me sick that that thug cheater cheap-shot piece of feces Howie Long is talking trash about Haynesworth. Haynesworth is nothing but Howie Long without the steroids.

meStevo
10-01-2006, 03:18 PM
He'll probably get into a lot of trouble for that since it wasn't a Chiefs player that he did that to.


Ya you're right, let me check the replay.... yup, his foot was blocked into his unhelmeted forehead.

ChiefsfaninPA
10-01-2006, 03:19 PM
It makes me sick that that thug cheater cheap-shot piece of feces Howie Long is talking trash about Haynesworth. Haynesworth is nothing but Howie Long without the steroids.


Tell us how you really feel Rain Man.

Skip Towne
10-01-2006, 03:20 PM
It looked like his foot was pushed into that guy's head.

Rain Man
10-01-2006, 03:22 PM
Tell us how you really feel Rain Man.

Howie Long is scum. He's a cheating, lying, thieving subhuman pustulent viral infection. He should've been kicked out of the league in 1979. He can't act. He can't announce. He thinks he's smart because he wears fake glasses and can out-think Terry Bradshaw. I despise Howie Long with a fire that arises from the depths of my very soul.

Spott
10-01-2006, 03:23 PM
Well, if he did to a Cowboy, then it's no big deal. I'd feel the same if he did it to a Raider.

the Talking Can
10-01-2006, 03:23 PM
That was a WWF move. He scraped his cleats on the guy's forehead. If the victim was anyone other than Trent Green, he's in for a big fine.

LMAO
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LMAO
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Halfcan
10-01-2006, 03:23 PM
What a cheapshot-almost as bad as the one on Trent.

Marcellus
10-01-2006, 03:25 PM
Well, if he did to a Cowboy, then it's no big deal. I'd feel the same if he did it to a Raider.
:LOL: LMAO LMAO

Rain Man
10-01-2006, 03:30 PM
I'll have to agree with the earlier posts about Howie Long.

KCFalcon59
10-01-2006, 03:35 PM
Howie Long is scum. He's a cheating, lying, thieving subhuman pustulent viral infection. He should've been kicked out of the league in 1979. He can't act. He can't announce. He thinks he's smart because he wears fake glasses and can out-think Terry Bradshaw. I despise Howie Long with a fire that arises from the depths of my very soul.

I couldn't agree more with this assessment. I absolutely despise that wannabe.

Spott
10-01-2006, 03:37 PM
Yeah. I'd respect Haynesworth more if he would have done it to Howie Long.

Rain Man
10-01-2006, 03:38 PM
Yeah, all of these comments about Howie Long are right on target.

hypersensitiveZO6
10-01-2006, 03:40 PM
He kicks?

pussy.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-01-2006, 03:41 PM
I'd respect Haynesworth more if he murdered Howie Long on live television and then ripped out his spinal column, Mortal Kombat style.

Spott
10-01-2006, 03:41 PM
I'd respect Haynesworth more if he murdered Howie Long on live television and then ripped out his spinal column, Mortal Kombat style.

I'd pay to see that.

Rain Man
10-01-2006, 03:42 PM
I'd respect Haynesworth more if he murdered Howie Long on live television and then ripped out his spinal column, Mortal Kombat style.

Rep.

Simplex3
10-01-2006, 04:00 PM
I want to see this kick, damnit.

Rain Man
10-01-2006, 04:03 PM
I want to see this kick, damnit.

It wasn't a kick so much as it was a "put my cleats on your forehead and then scrape down" maneuver. The funny part is that Haynesworth was furious when they kicked him out.

Bob Dole
10-01-2006, 04:48 PM
Wow. Bob Dole just saw the video.

What a stupid, stupid act.

Demonpenz
10-01-2006, 04:49 PM
jeez mine as well put skirts on the players these days

Bob Dole
10-01-2006, 04:53 PM
jeez mine as well put skirts on the players these days

Still haven't seen the "play" in question, eh?

Demonpenz
10-01-2006, 04:55 PM
Still haven't seen the "play" in question, eh?


I saw it, it looked like he was trying to step over the guy and fell on accident. Looks like the pussification is complete.

Bob Dole
10-01-2006, 04:58 PM
I saw it, it looked like he was trying to step over the guy and fell on accident. Looks like the pussification is complete.

Looks like you've had even more to drink than Bob Dole.

Pickledification iscomplete.

Rain Man
10-01-2006, 05:01 PM
I saw it, it looked like he was trying to step over the guy and fell on accident. Looks like the pussification is complete.

Yeah, and Lee Harvey Oswald's gun went off while he was cleaning it.

JBucc
10-01-2006, 05:10 PM
link to video?

Bob Dole
10-01-2006, 05:12 PM
link to video?

It was on a halftime show... Dunno whether it's on the web yet or not.

Probably not, since it's just contributing to the pussification of the league.

Demonpenz
10-01-2006, 05:15 PM
it is pretty bad. No question it was on purpose I thought marcus vicks might have been an accident for a couple moments. This one was right there. why would you do that you know there are 60,000 people there plus thousands of camera's.

Bob Dole
10-01-2006, 05:17 PM
it is pretty bad. No question it was on purpose I thought marcus vicks might have been an accident for a couple moments. This one was right there. why would you do that you know there are 60,000 people there plus thousands of camera's.

Waffler.

Bwana
10-01-2006, 05:20 PM
Yet another bung-gal dirty hit as well on a Pats WR. Helmet to helmet but surprise, the zebras called this one. I am seriously beginning to hate this team as much as the donks. Thugs and cheap shot artists.

Bob Dole
10-01-2006, 05:23 PM
Yet another bung-gal dirty hit as well on a Pats WR. Helmet to helmet but surprise, the zebras called this one. I am seriously beginning to hate this team as much as the donks. Thugs and cheap shot artists.

You can't hate the AFC team destined for the Super Bowl. Sheesh...

Bwana
10-01-2006, 05:39 PM
You can't hate the AFC team destined for the Super Bowl. Sheesh...


Heh

the Talking Can
10-01-2006, 06:21 PM
I just heard on espn radio that the guy who got cleated had to have 2 dozen stitches.....that sounds like a lot and I may have misheard, but if true that is a serious ****ing wound...lucky he didn't injure his eye

Rain Man
10-01-2006, 06:44 PM
But seriously, there are a lot of good points about Howie Long earlier in this thread.

Bob Dole
10-01-2006, 06:47 PM
I just heard on espn radio that the guy who got cleated had to have 2 dozen stitches.....that sounds like a lot and I may have misheard, but if true that is a serious ****ing wound...lucky he didn't injure his eye

NBC just said 30 stitches.

Skip Towne
10-01-2006, 06:51 PM
Howie Long is just misunderstood.

Dave Lane
10-01-2006, 06:57 PM
I think Howie Long maybe a close relative to Mr. Hankey.

Dave

plbrdude
10-01-2006, 07:04 PM
howie long is my favoritest announcer person

Rain Man
10-01-2006, 07:05 PM
howie long is my favoritest announcer person

If we ever meet, I'm going to sucker punch you for saying that.

plbrdude
10-01-2006, 07:08 PM
If we ever meet, I'm going to sucker punch you for saying that.
LMAO LMAO LMAO :doh!:

actually as an announcer i can handle him. as a player i hated him

Iowanian
10-01-2006, 07:16 PM
I think Howie Long maybe a close relative to Mr. Hankey.

Dave

They were definitely concieved in the same location....as was Geathers.

Mecca
10-01-2006, 07:53 PM
Yet another bung-gal dirty hit as well on a Pats WR. Helmet to helmet but surprise, the zebras called this one. I am seriously beginning to hate this team as much as the donks. Thugs and cheap shot artists.

I saw the replay of that and it looked like it was all shoulder......I didn't see any helmet to helmet personally.

Simplex3
10-01-2006, 08:11 PM
I saw the replay of that and it looked like it was all shoulder......I didn't see any helmet to helmet personally.
Shoulder to helmet, yes. Which, coincidentally, is illegal and was what was called.

Bwana
10-01-2006, 08:13 PM
I saw the replay of that and it looked like it was all shoulder......I didn't see any helmet to helmet personally.

Now there is a HUGE ****ing surprise. :shake: Next you will be trying to tell us that the Hayensworth issue was only a slip of the foot. (Twice)

ChiefsFan4Life
10-01-2006, 08:13 PM
Vid clip of it is about 45 seconds into here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZO3_9ZsHAg

Simplex3
10-01-2006, 08:17 PM
Wow. Anything shy of a 4 week suspension will prove the NFL to be patsies.

Mecca
10-01-2006, 08:20 PM
Vid clip of it is about 45 seconds into here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZO3_9ZsHAg

Based on watching that and Gurode being a center I'm guessing he got pissed off at Gurode trying to cut him.....now you shouldn't do what he did and he should get suspended but I'm going to guess that is what set him off.

Mecca
10-01-2006, 08:22 PM
Now there is a HUGE ****ing surprise. :shake: Next you will be trying to tell us that the Hayensworth issue was only a slip of the foot. (Twice)

The NFL pussy foots on that shit anyway they'll fine that guy and throw flags for that hit yet they'll put it in their big hits videos and make money off it. I didn't think that one was that bad, it was a hell of a hit at some point they're going to stop hitting and all big hits will be illegal.

dirk digler
10-01-2006, 08:25 PM
Wow after watching that video that guy definitely needs to be suspended. I am guessing 4+ games but hopefully the season.

dirk digler
10-01-2006, 08:27 PM
The NFL pussy foots on that shit anyway they'll fine that guy and throw flags for that hit yet they'll put it in their big hits videos and make money off it. I didn't think that one was that bad, it was a hell of a hit at some point they're going to stop hitting and all big hits will be illegal.

At first when I saw the hit I thought it was a legit shoulder pad hit but then they showed the side angle and it was definitely a blatant helmet to helmet him. Even Phil Simms said that after seeing that angle.

meStevo
10-01-2006, 09:02 PM
Hah:

Peter King: "He'll get a 25k fine and no suspension"

Collinsworth: "Arrest him."

Iowanian
10-01-2006, 09:05 PM
I saw it, it looked like he was trying to step over the guy and fell on accident. Looks like the pussification is complete.

I've seen you post some dumbf@ckary along the way, but this takes the cake. If you believe this, you're dumber than a drunken tommykat.


That was a blatant, ridiculous cheap shot. He should be suspended and fined 3-4 games pay...minimum. It doesn't get cheaper than that dirty shot.

Ari Chi3fs
10-01-2006, 09:06 PM
Haynesworth reaches down takes off the guys helmet... then stomped on his head. Unreal.

Bwana
10-01-2006, 09:07 PM
I've seen you post some dumbf@ckary along the way, but this takes the cake. If you believe this, you're dumber than a drunken tommykat.


Pure gold right here. :LOL:

Halfcan
10-01-2006, 09:08 PM
Peter King just said the NFL will not suspend him-only a fine.

Bill Parcells
10-01-2006, 09:09 PM
Looks like you've had even more to drink than Bob Dole.

Pickledification iscomplete.
ROFL ROFL

Bwana
10-01-2006, 09:10 PM
Peter King just said the NFL will not suspend him-only a fine.

It also came out that Fisher was going to take action against him if he felt the NFL wasn't hard enough on his guy. I hope he's not blowing smoke.

UteChief
10-01-2006, 09:10 PM
At least a four game suspension is in order. I wonder did they charge that guy in hockey for assault?

Bill Parcells
10-01-2006, 09:11 PM
That was a blatant, ridiculous cheap shot. He should be suspended and fined 3-4 games pay...minimum. It doesn't get cheaper than that dirty shot.
I agree!!!

keg in kc
10-01-2006, 09:12 PM
Seeing the video, that's one of the most blatant cheap shots I've ever seen. That was a notch lower than Romonowski in my book, and that's saying something...

LaBamba
10-01-2006, 09:12 PM
El Iowaniano es listo. Mi hermana querría encontrarlo.

Halfcan
10-01-2006, 09:13 PM
30 stiches in his head-yep that is an assualt. You have 24 hours to file charges.

Bill Parcells
10-01-2006, 09:14 PM
El Iowaniano es listo. Mi hermana querría encontrarlo.
Is this the first time Iowanian has been called out in spanish?? :hmmm:

Simplex3
10-01-2006, 09:15 PM
If the NFL follows that moron King's advice and goes only with a fine I'm going to have to seriously reconsider any future purchases of NFL merchandise.

Halfcan
10-01-2006, 09:16 PM
I would expect assault charges filed, not to mention a settlement for the games Andre will miss. 4 games suspension at the very least.

meStevo
10-01-2006, 09:18 PM
I've seen you post some dumbf@ckary along the way, but this takes the cake. If you believe this, you're dumber than a drunken tommykat.


That was a blatant, ridiculous cheap shot. He should be suspended and fined 3-4 games pay...minimum. It doesn't get cheaper than that dirty shot.

He's slated to make 600k+ this year, so that'd amount to 120-160k in fines, I hope they hit him that hard.

4 unpaid games serving out a suspension still feels weak for what he did. What prevents someone from flat out calling the cops when something like that happens? If some NASCAR driver pulls out a gun and shoot another drive in the leg as he drives by, are they going to wait and see how many points they take away from his standings or arrest the guy?

I didn't realize till watching the youtube recap that he knocked the guys helmet off on purpose before doing it. That's beyond wrong.

Salary figures:
http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:tkUDuMek6wIJ:www.nflpa.com/Members/playerProfile.asp%3FID%3D32991+site:NFLPA.com+Haynesworth&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1

Cntrygal
10-01-2006, 09:19 PM
Peter King just said the NFL will not suspend him-only a fine.


A couple weeks ago, Peter King also said that he would change his name to Shirley Temple if the Bills went to Miami and managed to win.

I haven't seen any name change announcements yet....

Iowanian
10-01-2006, 09:19 PM
SI! EL Iowanian se placería muy dislocar el útero de su hermana.

El Iowaniano es listo. Mi hermana querría encontrarlo.

LaBamba
10-01-2006, 09:20 PM
Muy bueno El Iowaniano. Pasaré por las noticias. Esto hará mi familia muy feliz

splatbass
10-01-2006, 09:21 PM
Hah:


Collinsworth: "Arrest him."

I seldom agree with Collinsworth, but this time he is exactly right.

Halfcan
10-01-2006, 09:21 PM
A couple weeks ago, Peter King also said that he would change his name to Shirley Temple if the Bills went to Miami and managed to win.

I haven't seen any name change announcements yet....

Chris Collinsworth called him out after Shirley made that STOOPID comment. If that was a Chiefs player getting stomped on, the refs probably would not have thrown a flag.

Fruit Ninja
10-01-2006, 09:22 PM
That was the biggest cheap shot i ever seen in a football game. Well other then the Green Bay dude that Slammed McMahon. THis dude deserves to go to jail, and suspended the rest of the yar without pay.

Bwana
10-01-2006, 09:23 PM
Oye chico de golpe, va frota alguna sal en su asno.

Guru
10-01-2006, 09:23 PM
I still missed the damn video. Got a work call right when they were about to show it.

Iowanian
10-01-2006, 09:24 PM
Desafortunadamente, mi esposa sería decepcionada si arruinara la matriz de su hermana. Debo declinar. Enviaré gochiefs en mi stead.

Simplex3
10-01-2006, 09:24 PM
I heard something but need clarification:

The refs threw two flags on that play, one for stomping the guy's head, then another for Hayensworth throwing his helmet. Does anyone know which penalty the ejection was for? It would only seem fitting that it was for tossing his helmet.

Thig Lyfe
10-01-2006, 09:25 PM
I say he should get the Marty McSorely treatment.

KcMizzou
10-01-2006, 09:25 PM
I still missed the damn video. Got a work call right when they were about to show it.It's linked in this thread. (Assuming youtube isn't blocked for you)

Demonpenz
10-01-2006, 09:25 PM
looked like the scene out of american history X minus the curb

DeepSouth
10-01-2006, 09:26 PM
It also came out that Fisher was going to take action against him if he felt the NFL wasn't hard enough on his guy. I hope he's not blowing smoke.
I wonder if Fisher would trade him straight up for Ryan Sims ?

Iowanian
10-01-2006, 09:26 PM
¿Puedo también sugerir Bwana vengo ayudar a hacer a su hermana hermética con el DP?

Skip Towne
10-01-2006, 09:26 PM
El Iowaniano es listo. Mi hermana querría encontrarlo.
Same to you, asshole. I don't know what you said but it sounded dirty.

Bill Parcells
10-01-2006, 09:27 PM
Same to you, asshole. I don't know what you said but it sounded dirty.
Do you want me to neg rep him for you skip???

LaBamba
10-01-2006, 09:27 PM
Esto es las malas noticias El Iowaniano. Lea los postes de GoChiefs, yo no lo puedo recomendar a mi hermana. Pero tengo un asno que quizás se interese.

Cntrygal
10-01-2006, 09:28 PM
Chris Collinsworth called him out after Shirley made that STOOPID comment. If that was a Chiefs player getting stomped on, the refs probably would not have thrown a flag.


That's good! I haven't heard any commentary about it - I've just seen the highlight clip once.

And I think that the guy should be kicked out of the league.

You're probably right about not getting a flag - although if it were a Bills player getting stomped, the Bills would've gotten some kind of interference call for being in the way. :grr:

Guru
10-01-2006, 09:28 PM
Vid clip of it is about 45 seconds into here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZO3_9ZsHAg


Holy crap!!! a fine but no suspension? BS

Bwana
10-01-2006, 09:28 PM
I wonder if Fisher would trade him straight up for Ryan Sims ?

LOL, Even Fisher is smarter than that. :D

Bill Parcells
10-01-2006, 09:29 PM
SI! EL Iowanian se placería muy dislocar el útero de su hermana.
ROFL ROFL ROFL

You are unbelievable man!!!

sister jokes in spanish!!! :thumb:

Simplex3
10-01-2006, 09:29 PM
LOL, Even Fisher is smarter than that. :D
Man, I've never wanted to hump a sig before...

LaBamba
10-01-2006, 09:29 PM
¿Puedo también sugerir Bwana vengo ayudar a hacer a su hermana hermética con el DP?

No gracias El Iowaniano. Soy concernido que Bwana lleva las enfermedades viles que quizás infecten el ganado

Cntrygal
10-01-2006, 09:31 PM
Holy crap!!! a fine but no suspension? BS


I don't think anything official has been announced. I think it's all the "experts" speculating.

Or did I miss something? :)

runnercyclist
10-01-2006, 09:31 PM
I'd sue his ass

Bwana
10-01-2006, 09:31 PM
Esto es las malas noticias El Iowaniano. Lea los postes de GoChiefs, yo no lo puedo recomendar a mi hermana. Pero tengo un asno que quizás se interese.

Yo no sé LaBamba, aún un asno lo tiene es los estándares.

Skip Towne
10-01-2006, 09:34 PM
Why don't you ferriners take your bleak asses back to Mexico? THIS IS AMERICA. WE SPEAK ENGLISH

Halfcan
10-01-2006, 09:34 PM
ENGLISH please??

Bwana
10-01-2006, 09:36 PM
Why don't you ferriners take your bleak asses back to Mexico? THIS IS AMERICA. WE SPEAK ENGLISH

Heh!

Fácil ahora se Salta, no obtiene su vagina ató en un nudo cuadrado.

Simplex3
10-01-2006, 09:37 PM
ENGLISH please??
I'm just guessing, but I highly doubt that we really give a rat's ass about anything that's coming out of LaBumba's mouth.

meStevo
10-01-2006, 09:38 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2609563

Not in motion but nice pics of the incident and a recap of possible fines and whatnot at ESPN's article, click the still video to the right of it:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2609563

Iowanian
10-01-2006, 09:38 PM
labamba's sister would like to see my wedding tackle.
I indicated I'd be pleased to dislocate her uterus.
LaBamba says this makes his family very happy.
I said that unfortunately, it would make my wife unhappy, if I were to wreck the womb of his sister and must decline, but offered gochiefs in my place.
LaBamba had fear that gochiefs would make an unacceptable mate.
I offered to throw in bwana to make her airtight with gochiefs in a DP.
He was afraid bwana would love her, because he enjoys the reproductive organs of bovines.

Bwana
10-01-2006, 09:38 PM
I'm just guessing, but I highly doubt that we really give a rat's ass about anything that's coming out of LaBumba's mouth.Nope, and if he knows what's good for him, he's off fetching Bwana a taco and a cold beer.

ChiefsKing
10-01-2006, 09:38 PM
Guess he is a big fan of the Vick treatment.
He should be kicked off the team and no one pick him up.

TRR
10-01-2006, 09:43 PM
The Cowboy player got 30 stitches from that incident. I say suspend Haynesworth for every stitch that player received.

Bill Parcells
10-01-2006, 09:45 PM
labamba's sister would like to see my wedding tackle.
I indicated I'd be pleased to dislocate her uterus.
LaBamba says this makes his family very happy.
I said that unfortunately, it would make my wife unhappy, if I were to wreck the womb of his sister and must decline, but offered gochiefs in my place.
LaBamba had fear that gochiefs would make an unacceptable mate.
I offered to throw in bwana to make her airtight with gochiefs in a DP.
He was afraid bwana would love her, because he enjoys the reproductive organs of bovines.
:LOL: :LOL:

Mecca
10-01-2006, 09:48 PM
The assault charges and wanting to sue him is a bit much.....I personally don't think they should ever venture into that field or you are going to get to a point where no name guys who know they won't be in the league long will be suing name players with alot of money.

"He broke my finger he assaulted me!".

Bwana
10-01-2006, 09:50 PM
The assault charges and wanting to sue him is a bit much.....I personally don't think they should ever venture into that field or you are going to get to a point where no name guys who know they won't be in the league long will be suing name players with alot of money.

"He broke my finger he assaulted me!".

There's a really easy way to avoid an assault charge in cases like this. Don't pull off a guys helmet and stomp on his head.

Simplex3
10-01-2006, 09:51 PM
The assault charges and wanting to sue him is a bit much.....I personally don't think they should ever venture into that field or you are going to get to a point where no name guys who know they won't be in the league long will be suing name players with alot of money.

"He broke my finger he assaulted me!".
So Homonowski shouldn't have paid up to the guy who's eye socket he broke during practice a few years back? If your actions are outside of a play and they result in another guy missing time (and therefore game checks) then damn straight you should cover it.

Mecca
10-01-2006, 09:53 PM
What happens if you hit a guy and he becomes paralyzed but you didn't intentionally do it.......a court could rule you at fault and award the guy millions of dollars and totally hose you.

I just don't think what happens on the sports field should be taken to court. The NFL needs to police it's own game.

Bwana
10-01-2006, 09:56 PM
What happens if you hit a guy and he becomes paralyzed but you didn't intentionally do it.......a court could rule you at fault and award the guy millions of dollars and totally hose you.

I just don't think what happens on the sports field should be taken to court. The NFL needs to police it's own game.

:spock:

And that has what to do with what happened today?

Simplex3
10-01-2006, 09:56 PM
What happens if you hit a guy and he becomes paralyzed but you didn't intentionally do it.......a court could rule you at fault and award the guy millions of dollars and totally hose you.

I just don't think what happens on the sports field should be taken to court. The NFL needs to police it's own game.
If the hit is the end of the play, everyone assumes that kind of risk. If the hit is 10 to 15 seconds after the play is over then I'd say it's assault.

Should the NFL police it's own game if a player shoots another player during a game? Where do you draw the line?

Ari Chi3fs
10-01-2006, 09:56 PM
So Homonowski shouldn't have paid up to the guy who's eye socket he broke during practice a few years back? If your actions are outside of a play and they result in another guy missing time (and therefore game checks) then damn straight you should cover it.

Yeah, Homonowski punched the dude, IIRC... this is just as heinous. There could easily be major repercussions from this. I say ram it down Haynesworth's throat as hard as you can by the League, so shit like this wont happen again. He needs 8 game suspended without pay. Half a year salary loss will make you think twice.

Mecca
10-01-2006, 09:57 PM
:spock:

And that has what to do with what happened today?

That was more of a generalization as to why I don't think what happens on the NFL field should end up in courts........I wasn't trying to relate it to Albert Haynesworth.

Mecca
10-01-2006, 09:58 PM
If the hit is the end of the play, everyone assumes that kind of risk. If the hit is 10 to 15 seconds after the play is over then I'd say it's assault.

Should the NFL police it's own game if a player shoots another player during a game? Where do you draw the line?

You've watched The Last Boyscout to many times......

Simplex3
10-01-2006, 10:00 PM
You've watched The Last Boyscout to many times......
So where DO you draw the line? How late can it be and still be "within the game"? What if, as we're all meeting in the field after the game, I use my helmet to bust some other player in the back of the skull? Is that "within the game"?

Bwana
10-01-2006, 10:00 PM
That was more of a generalization as to why I don't think what happens on the NFL field should end up in courts........I wasn't trying to relate it to Albert Haynesworth.

My bad, I thought Albert Haynesworth was the primary topic in this thread.

alanm
10-01-2006, 10:01 PM
Howie Long is scum. He's a cheating, lying, thieving subhuman pustulent viral infection. He should've been kicked out of the league in 1979. He can't act. He can't announce. He thinks he's smart because he wears fake glasses and can out-think Terry Bradshaw. I despise Howie Long with a fire that arises from the depths of my very soul.
Eh... Howie's ok for a Raider. :)

Simplex3
10-01-2006, 10:02 PM
Eh... Howie's ok for a Raider. :)
Figures, coming from a CornHumper fan...

:)

Thig Lyfe
10-01-2006, 10:03 PM
If he stomped on Peyton Manning's head, there would be a UN resolution allowing international forces to destroy Haynesworth's house.

Simplex3
10-01-2006, 10:04 PM
If he stomped on Peyton Manning's head, there would be a UN resolution allowing international forces to destroy Haynesworth's house.
ROFL

Bwana
10-01-2006, 10:09 PM
If he stomped on Peyton Manning's head, there would be a UN resolution allowing international forces to destroy Haynesworth's house.

LOL, no doubt and if it would have been Greens skull, the pricks likely wouldn't have even reached for a flag. It would have been something like, " Mr. H just lost his balance and reached for Trents helmet to catch himself, while standing, he slipped and brushed up against Trents head with his shoe."

Frazod
10-01-2006, 10:11 PM
If he stomped on Peyton Manning's head, there would be a UN resolution allowing international forces to destroy Haynesworth's house.

If he'd stomped on St. Manning's head, I'd start up a collection to pay his fine. :#

Brock
10-01-2006, 10:12 PM
intentionally

Duh.

Skip Towne
10-01-2006, 10:14 PM
The assault charges and wanting to sue him is a bit much.....I personally don't think they should ever venture into that field or you are going to get to a point where no name guys who know they won't be in the league long will be suing name players with alot of money.

"He broke my finger he assaulted me!".
Are you a lawyer?

Bwana
10-01-2006, 10:16 PM
Are you a lawyer?

Yeah and gochiefs is an astronaut.

Simplex3
10-01-2006, 10:17 PM
Yeah and gochiefs is an astronaut.
LMAO

Please tell me he hasn't been to Uranus.

Bwana
10-01-2006, 10:19 PM
LMAO

Please tell me he hasn't been to Uranus.


I can and will tell you that. :doh!:

Bill Parcells
10-01-2006, 10:23 PM
Heh!

Fácil ahora se Salta, no obtiene su vagina ató en un nudo cuadrado.
ROFL ROFL ROFL

Bob Dole
10-02-2006, 01:47 PM
Albert should still be young enough to have a decent pro wrestling career.

Inspector
10-02-2006, 02:19 PM
yju estba lascansadence 'edflances yeuhol, estegls?


(I'm just making up my own foreign language since I don't understand the ones being used here)

Pitt Gorilla
10-02-2006, 03:02 PM
It looked like his foot was pushed into that guy's head.Ok, that was awesome.

Donger
10-02-2006, 03:07 PM
I don't see what the big deal is. His foot was obviously pushed by a sudden, highly-localized, intense gust of wind. He was powerless to stop it.

Skip Towne
10-02-2006, 05:30 PM
What happens if you hit a guy and he becomes paralyzed but you didn't intentionally do it.......a court could rule you at fault and award the guy millions of dollars and totally hose you.

I just don't think what happens on the sports field should be taken to court. The NFL needs to police it's own game.
Most of us are smart enough to tell the difference between an assault and a football play. I'm seeing that not all of us are though.

macdawg
10-02-2006, 05:43 PM
what he did was horrible, attacking a defenseless man for no reason like that during a game, but even worse was his disrespect for authority on the sidelines with Jeff Fisher. Fisher looked pissed, and I'm sure he's more upset about it than anybody, he's got other things to worry about, like an 0 & 4 team.

splatbass
10-02-2006, 05:48 PM
what he did was horrible, attacking a defenseless man for no reason like that during a game, but even worse was his disrespect for authority on the sidelines with Jeff Fisher. Fisher looked pissed, and I'm sure he's more upset about it than anybody, he's got other things to worry about, like an 0 & 4 team.

Immediately after the game Fisher went over to Parcells and told him that he was outraged at what happened and if the NFL didn't take appropriate action the team would.

Rain Man
10-02-2006, 05:51 PM
The Cincinnati Bengals reviewed the tape of this incident and concluded that the center started his slide too late.

FAX
10-02-2006, 06:18 PM
Mort is reporting that Upshaw plans to appeal this suspension.

Who put an ex-Raider in charge?

FAX

plbrdude
10-02-2006, 07:09 PM
surley this has been said, suspend him w/out pay for the rest of the year. also make him pay out of his own pocket for the cowboy guy's missed games.and if next year something like this happens. ban him for life.

JBucc
10-02-2006, 07:11 PM
Mort is reporting that Upshaw plans to appeal this suspension.

Who put an ex-Raider in charge?

FAXThat ****ing dingleberry. I hope Goodell has the stones to put him in his place next CBA negotiations.

FAX
10-02-2006, 07:19 PM
That ****ing dingleberry. I hope Goodell has the stones to put him in his place next CBA negotiations.

It’s well known that Raiders are experts in face stomping. That part I understand.

I just think it's interesting that Upshaw appeals every fine and/or suspension no matter what the infraction is. It's like allowing Mark Foley to construct internet predator legislation.

FAX

Skip Towne
10-02-2006, 07:24 PM
Mort is reporting that Upshaw plans to appeal this suspension.

Who put an ex-Raider in charge?

FAX
Yeah, not a very smart move. I'll bet the Detroit Lions owner agrees with that.

Thig Lyfe
10-02-2006, 07:33 PM
Cut him.

cdcox
10-02-2006, 08:41 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2610577

Updated: Oct. 2, 2006, 8:56 PM ET
Haynesworth suspended for unprecedented five gamesAssociated Press


NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- Albert Haynesworth's temper has landed him in trouble with teammates and coaches before. By stomping another player's head, the Tennessee Titans defensive tackle not only disgusted himself, he also drew a five-game suspension -- the longest for on-field behavior in NFL history.

And that may just be the beginning of the grief for Haynesworth, who fell to the Titans in the middle of the first round of the 2002 draft because of maturity questions.

More On Haynesworth

KreidlerNothing can condone what Tennessee's Albert Haynesworth did Sunday. NFL decorum says he should have handled his business during the play. Story

• To listen to Joe Theismann talk pro football, click here.

• Eric Allen says there was no justification for Haynesworth's attack on Andre Gurode, but Haynesworth did save himself from a longer suspension by apologizing. To listen to Allen, click here.


The 6-foot-6, 320-pound Haynesworth stomped on Dallas Cowboys center Andre Gurode's head Sunday, knocking off his helmet, then kicked and stomped his face. Gurode needed 30 stitches to repair the cuts left by the tackle's cleats, and plans to talk with his family about whether or not to press charges, his agent told Nashville police Monday.

The league suspended Haynesworth for five games -- more than twice the length of the previous longest suspension -- for flagrant unnecessary roughness. He won't be paid while he serves the suspension, effective immediately. According to ESPN's Chris Mortensen, the penalty will cost him approximately $500,000, based on his $1.6 million salary this season.


"There is absolutely no place in the game, or anywhere else, for the inexcusable action that occurred in yesterday's Titans-Cowboys game," new NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said.


What are your thoughts on the NFL's five-game suspension of Albert Haynesworth?
Too harsh
Too lenient
Just right




Haynesworth's previous problems had been hidden from attention because they took place in practice. As a sophomore at Tennessee, he fought with a teammate and left practice, returning with a long pole looking for tackle Will Ofenheusle before coach Phillip Fulmer stopped him. He was suspended for a half of a game.

During 2003 Titans training camp, Haynesworth kicked center Justin Hartwig, now with Carolina. Charges for a road rage incident earlier this year were dismissed.

But the stomping, showed repeatedly in television replays, has brought nearly unanimous condemnation, the unprecedented suspension and possibly criminal charges and a civil lawsuit.

Nashville police and the district attorney contacted the Cowboys' general counsel Monday, offering their assistance to Gurode in prosecuting Haynesworth. The Cowboys declined to comment on the suspension.

Before the suspension was announced, Gurode wasn't in the Dallas locker room. Cowboys coach Bill Parcells said the center lifted weights and could practice Wednesday. Before the suspension came down, linebacker Greg Ellis, the players' union representative, said he had talked with Gurode and thinks it is worth pressing charges if things don't get properly resolved with the league.

Haynesworth was penalized and ejected from the game early in the third quarter after stomping on Gurode's head, causing his helmet to pop off, then kicking him again following a 5-yard touchdown run by Julius Jones of the Cowboys.

"What I did out there was disgusting," Haynesworth said Sunday. "It doesn't matter what the league does to me. The way I feel right now, you just can't describe it."



AP Photo/ John Russell
"What I did was disgusting," the Titans' Albert Haynesworth said of his stomp on Cowboys center Andre Gurode's face.

Titans coach Jeff Fisher said Haynesworth learned of the suspension a few minutes before the league's announcement and that the tackle was remorseful and embarrassed. But he called Haynesworth's actions unacceptable.

"I felt there needed to be some serious action taken from a discipline standpoint, and I believe that what the league has done right now is adequate," Fisher said.

"Five games and five paychecks is substantial."

Jones' touchdown put Dallas up 20-6 in what wound up as a 45-14 victory. Gurode said after the game they hadn't been talking or having any exchanges that led to Haynesworth's actions.

Parcells said Fisher apologized to him and the team after the game. He also thought Haynesworth was contrite after the game, which he was glad to hear.

"Other than that," Parcells said, "it was unfortunate."

Dallas nose tackle Jason Ferguson agreed a suspension was needed and that nothing should push a player that far.

"With the head uncovered, you don't go for that. You're not trying to kill anybody out there," Ferguson said.

The Titans can replace the five-year veteran on the roster, but he has been a starter since late in his rookie season. Fisher did not know if rules used for players suspended for substance abuse will apply in this situation.

While the Titans had other evidence that something like this was coming, Fisher said Haynesworth had been making progress in recent years.

"I am shocked and appalled for this to take place regardless & whether there have been behavioral issues in the past or not. To me, there's no place for this type of condition on the field," Fisher said.

Before Monday, the longest suspension for on-field behavior was two games for Green Bay defensive lineman Charles Martin for throwing Chicago quarterback Jim McMahon to the ground during a game on Nov. 23, 1986.

It's the first suspension since 2002 Rodney Harrison, then with San Diego, was suspended one game for hitting Oakland's Jerry Rice with his helmet. Earlier that season, Denver's Kenoy Kennedy was suspended for a game for a helmet-to-helmet hit on Chris Chambers of Miami.

If charges are brought against Haynesworth, it wouldn't be the first time police got involved following an on-field incident.

In the NHL, Todd Bertuzzi pleaded guilty to causing body harm in Vancouver and missed 20 NHL games for a blindside punch that left Colorado forward Steve Moore with broken bones in his neck. And Marty McSorley was convicted of assault with a weapon also by Vancouver authorities for slashing Vancouver's Donald Brashear in the head with his stick in February 2000.

Haynesworth will be eligible to return Nov. 19 for the Titans' game at Philadelphia.

Logical
10-03-2006, 01:34 AM
Hayensworth got what he deserved, bravo to the league.