View Full Version : Non Football topic,need your opinions on this veiw!
01-02-2001, 08:52 PM
Sorry I haven't been around here lately,but instead of being in KY,I was in KC tha last 2 weekends,sorry I didn't get to look anyone up! Here's the topic,my mother had a heart attack on 12-22 and on 12-24 we were advised that she was brain dead. We decided to unhook here from life support on 12-24,,I came back to KY to work and she passed on 12-28.I drove back to KC and had the funeral on 12-31.(all this info is to let you know what and how it has happened)Here is my question, I moved from KC 12 yrs ago and when I got to KY,when a funeral was in route to the grave site,all traffic would stop from all directions and let funeral traffic travel on in respect to the family.I found this very thoughtful and the utmost respect to a family.When we left the church on Blackbob(Johnson county)so. to 151th street,we had no police escort,traffic was passing us,cutting in front of us,and trying to turn into us at the traffic lights. I was shocked at the lack of respect that these motorist had,further more on Hwy 169 so,to Paola,was just as bad!I know that when my dad passed away in 1977,we had a police escort,but had none with my mom,I felt that this was a lack of respect to the family.I have been gone for 12 yrs,but has the family morals and lack of respect declined that much in 12 yrs? Was I in an emotional state that I noticed it more,I don't think so,some guy cut in front of me to make a turn and I had to slam the brakes hard to not hit him! I was pissed off then. I need answers to this and opinions...Is this normal in KC now? I was born in Ks and lived there for 32 yrs,but some people in KC could learn a thing or 2 from some of these KY folks down here!
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01-02-2001, 08:59 PM
Without the police escort it might have made it hard to tell what was going on and by that time people needed to get over to get off the road or miss their exit. I have seen people pass them when their were escorts, but can't say I have ever seen people cutting in when there was one. Not sure that I have seen a funural prosession without an escort, so I'm not sure about that case.
01-02-2001, 09:03 PM
I know not having a Police escort was the kicker,Just amased that motorist would be so rude! Down here,all traffic stops...from all sides to let them pas thru and they follow till they get to were they are going...Very polite and respectful to the family!
01-02-2001, 09:11 PM
Roy - I would like to add that I'm sorry for your loss, hard time of year to lose a family memeber.
I should add that you were in Johnson County, and they just really don't know how to drive. 169 is a mess of getting over and then getting back to get off, never a fun place to drive. Like I said, when they have the escort I see everyone stop and the intersections and never cut in. I have seen people pass, but that is when they are on major roads. I guess I just don't know how you would quickly recognize that it was a funural prossesion, I have seen hursts drive around without people following them a lot more then I have seen prossessions without escorts.
01-02-2001, 11:06 PM
Oh Roy, I am so sorry. Your family has been racked with loss the last couple of months.
When my dad passed away in 97 no one dared cut in front of us. Most people still have respect, but a few jerks will always be that way. MOst people know that even without an escort that when there is that much traffic driving slow with the lights on, then that is a funeral procession and deserves respect. I am sorry you had to deal with jerks like that during what I know is an extremely raw emotional time.
01-02-2001, 11:22 PM
Most people drive 70-75 mph on the main roads like 169. Without a police escourt, it would be difficult to see the lights on from the rear. I could see how a lot of people might not have known it was a procession. Even without delving into the physics of stopping at high speeds, its easy to see how some might have sailed on by, only recognizing the situation after they had passed. Also, a lot of younger drivers might not have known the proper protocol for the situation. Then, again, some might not have cared. For safety reasons, I'm not sure I would have used 169. I know that doesn't help much now.... My condolences...
01-02-2001, 11:27 PM
Here in Pennsylvania they license octagenerians and the mentally ill to drive cars (So it seems) so you can imagine the situation. Just the other day my girlfriend and I noticed a funeral procession coming in the opposite direction on a major road in town. While I have never pulled over for a procession on the opposite lane of traffic I do take off my ball cap or at least nod my head in some show of respect for the deceased and family. Anyway, we saw the hurse and a limo followed by one other car with its headlights on. The rest of the procession was spread out over a distance of about 2 miles, where I would see groups of cars following each other with their headlights on. The people in the cars were in the procession I assume because they were dressed well. We couldn't believe that so many people would just cut through a funeral procession. I should mention the road I was on has 2 lanes in both directions, so people could have passed without cutting in front. I just thought it was pretty rotten and indicative of the attitude a lot of people carry in the east compared to the midwest.
Truly sorry for the loss Roy. http://www.chiefsplanet.com/ubb/frown.gif
01-03-2001, 07:18 AM
Thanks for your thoughts....yes Pam,we have been hit hard 2 times this month of Dec,1st my wifes dad,then my mom.That's hard on the Kids..As far as a driving slow and with the headlights on,yea it's easy to tell that is a funeral procession,or at least when you did realise it to pull over out of respect. Anyway,thanks for your thoughts....Roy.
01-03-2001, 08:11 AM
First, let me express my sympathies on your loss.
The fact is that in this day and age, in this town, especially in Johnson County, drivers know only one word...me
There is a general lack of respect for any other driver, pedestrian and sadly, even a funeral prosession.
Was this more noticiable because you were grieveing?...probably, but it wasn't imagined...people have absolutely no respect for anyone but themselves when they get behind the wheel of a car...it's bad all over the Metro area, but especially bad in Johnson County...
You showed remarkable restraint...had it been me and my mother, I would probably have gotten out of my car and kicked someone's *** if they showed any disrespect...
It's a sad statement on our existence that people are in so much of a hurry to go nowhere that they would disrespect something as solemn and sacred as a funeral procession....
I apologize for the idiots that disgraced this city in your eyes...however, when I realize that it was in Johnson County, It doesn't surprise me.
Come to the inner city, where I live, where people exist as it was intended, side by side, every color, every creed...in general, the people may not have a lot of material things, but I'll bet you real money that if your mother's funeral procession passed my house, every moving car would have stopped to let you pass by...
Again I'm sorry for you loss.<BR>
01-03-2001, 08:23 AM
i'm sorry for your losses, royc75...my office is right next to a cemetery, and at times i see drivers fail to show respect for funeral processions. i'd like to say it's only that way in the cities, but i'm about as far out in the boonies as it gets.
you cant fix stupid
01-03-2001, 11:21 AM
Roy, sorry for your loss.
The funeral home did not do their job by lining up the police for an escort.
The other people were just inconsiderate oafs.
I will have to check out the local laws as to what they say. I'm 180 miles southwest of KC, here everyone pulls over, some even get out of their car out of respect.<P>
01-03-2001, 03:36 PM
I'm sorry for your loss also.
I don't think the rudeness you observed was due to the part of town you were in. I'm all over the metro area everyday and really don't see much difference in peoples manners (or lack there of) from one place to the next. I think that most people did not notice they were butting in until it was too late. I've been there myself and it makes you feel about 2" tall. Whenever I see a funeral procession I pull over out of respect to the families. I've been in their shoes a few times and have noticed the same lack of manners and yes it pissed me off but I prefer to believe that most of us wouldn't intentionally be that rude.
01-03-2001, 03:42 PM
RCG, it may not be intentional...it comes down to lack of common sense...it's the attitude of me, me, me...everyone is in such a hurry...take time to smell the roses and slow down or stop out of respect for a funeral procession...
Of course you are right, it happens all over the area...so no, it's not restricted to one part of town...this whole city needs lessons in driving etiquette
01-03-2001, 03:49 PM
I was just going to post much the same as TomCash. You have a legitimate beef with the Funeral Director because they dropped the ball.
01-03-2001, 03:57 PM
You have my sympathies, ROY. I recently had a loss in the family too, and this is a rotten time of year to have that happen.
I think 58 has it nailed down. That part of the city spawns the most inconsiderate drivers in all of the metro area.
Again, I'm sorry for your loss.
58: where 'bouts do you live in the 'inner city'? Downtown? Midtown? Jus' curious.
01-03-2001, 04:15 PM
I am sorry to hear about your loss. I unfortunetly have had to attend several funerals. Many of them have been in Johnson Co. I can assure that my exp. has not been that of yours. People are usually respectful when they realize what is going on. The lack of police escort didn't help people realize what was going on. From behind a long line of slow moving cars I would hope people just assumed that there was a tractor or a slow driver in front. I can't imagine anyone disrespecting a funeral procession on purpose.
For those of you who assume everyone from Jo Co. is rude or disrespectful, I would like to call to mind the article "Yahoo Nation" that everyone seemed to get so fired up about. Everyone seemed pretty upset on someone judging them for where they live.
Assuing that everyone in Jo Co is the same or that Jo co is bad, is simply prejudicial.
You have made the same error that the writer of "Yahoo Nation" did.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Helvetica, verdana, ariel">quote:</font><HR>The fact is that in this day and age, in this town, especially in Johnson County, drivers know only one word...me
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Helvetica, verdana, ariel">quote:</font><HR>
when I realize that it was in Johnson County, It doesn't surprise me.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Helvetica, verdana, ariel">quote:</font><HR>I should add that you were in Johnson County, and they just really don't know how to drive. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Helvetica, verdana, ariel">quote:</font><HR>Come to the inner city, where I live, where people exist as it was intended, side by side, every color, every creed...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
So is Jo Co racist also?
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