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Coach
10-03-2006, 06:56 AM
Divisional Championship Series, best of 5.

Oakland A's vs. Minnesota Twins
(A's won series 3-0)
Game 1: A's win 3-2
Game 2: A's win 5-2
Game 3: A's win 8-3

St. Louis Cardinals vs. San Deigo Padres
(Cardinals won series 3-1)
Game 1: Cardinals win 5-1
Game 2: Cardinals win 2-0
Game 3: Padres win 3-1
Game 4: Cardinals win 6-2

Detroit Tigers vs. New York Yankees
(Tigers won series 3-1)
Game 1: Yankees win 8-4
Game 2: Tigers win 4-3
Game 3: Tigers win 6-0
Game 4: Tigers win 8-3

Los Angeles Dodgers vs. New York Mets
(Mets won series 3-0)
Game 1: Mets win 6-5
Game 2: Mets win 4-1
Game 3: Mets win 9-5

League Championship Series, best of 7

St. Louis Cardinals vs. New York Mets
(Series tied 0-0)
Game 1: Wednesday 8 p.m. ET

Oakland A's vs. Detroit Tigers
(Series tied 0-0)
Game 1: Tuesday 8 p.m. ET

Ari Chi3fs
10-03-2006, 07:56 AM
How did the Cardinals sneak in? They suck.

Twins.
Yankees

Padres
Mets

Mets vs Twins

Champs - Mets.

Archie F. Swin
10-03-2006, 08:05 AM
hope Cards get swept

wouldn't mind another subway series

Demonpenz
10-03-2006, 08:35 AM
mets without pedro? I don't know if they got what it takes. I do look forward to what beltran and pujols do. Just think if baird would have chosen to keep those two around instead of sweeney

chief52
10-03-2006, 08:46 AM
Mets will not make it by the Dodgers.

Twins vs. Yanks

Padres vs. Dodgers

Chiefnj
10-03-2006, 08:55 AM
Why do they play so many playoff games during the day when viewership is limited?

NJ Chief Fan
10-03-2006, 09:27 AM
it doesnt matter who wins the NL, who ever comes out of the AL is going to win it all

yanks/twins ALCS
padres/dodgers NLCS

yanks/padres WS(98 rematch)

yanks WC

Stinger
10-03-2006, 09:34 AM
How did the Cardinals sneak in?

I am sorry you don't sneak into the post season. The games at the beginning of the season count just as much as the games in the last month of the season. They had a large lead at the end, and although they almost choked it, they still won the games to have that lead.

Now will they move on probably not, with the pitching they have, or lack of pitching if you wish. But that said anything can happen in 5 game series. I hope their bats are hot because with their pitching they are going to need all the help they can get.

That said GO CARDS!!!! :D


Why do they play so many playoff games during the day when viewership is limited?

TV ratings. You split the viewer ship if you have multiple games on at the same time, or in the evening. Networks don't like that, sucks for the fans but nothing we can do.

CupidStunt
10-03-2006, 09:37 AM
Twins > A's
Cards > Pads
Yankees > Tigers
Mets > Dodgers

Yankees > Twins
Mets > Cards

Mets > Yankees

Archie F. Swin
10-03-2006, 09:37 AM
yanks/padres WS(98 rematch)



The Padres were good that recently? Sheesh...I'm not paying attention!

Coach
10-03-2006, 10:44 AM
Anybody in KC know which radio station the games will be on?

I'm at work, so I am unable to watch them, but I am able to listen to it.

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 10:48 AM
Sorry about the reposted thread, I cannot contain my exitement.

Coach
10-03-2006, 11:10 AM
Sorry about the reposted thread, I cannot contain my exitement.

That's quite all right. :D :P

Anyone in KC know what radio station the games are being played??

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 11:18 AM
Santana looks untouchable.

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 11:19 AM
We are done, Zito is having control problems. Eventually, he will pipe it, and they will jack it into the stands.

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 11:19 AM
Got to hope for the ground ball double play right now.

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 11:21 AM
The last thing the A's can afford to do, is give up many runs, as it will be difficult, YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Kendall.

tk13
10-03-2006, 11:21 AM
I don't think it'll be a Mets/Yankees series. Some great pitching matchups today though. Santana/Zito and Carpenter/Peavy. Cards really need to win today or it'll be tough.

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 11:22 AM
2 down yesssssssssss. whew, this is how Zito is. He doesn't overpower anybody, or any team.

Dangles lots of people on base, and throws a lot of pitches. He is most effective, when he can get peole to swing at his junk.

Frazod
10-03-2006, 11:23 AM
It's not going to be a happy post-season for me. Other than the Cards, who will get beat down quickly, there's not a single team I like in the playoffs. Hate the Yankmees, REALLY HATE THE TWINS, as for the rest my feelings range from contempt to indifference.

I guess I probably dislike the Tigers the least of anybody. (I'd root for the As, but I just can't get past that Oakland thing.)

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 11:24 AM
unconventional 1,2, 3 inning, lol.

Way to recover Zito, settle down now. Got to get him some run support early, even one run will be big against Santana.

The A's have been playing, just a bit more small ball lately, I hope they will not rely too much on the moneyball crap in the playoffs.

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 11:25 AM
It's not going to be a happy post-season for me. Other than the Cards, who will get beat down quickly, there's not a single team I like in the playoffs. Hate the Yankmees, REALLY HATE THE TWINS, as for the rest my feelings range from contempt to indifference.

I guess I probably dislike the Tigers the least of anybody. (I'd root for the As, but I just can't get past that Oakland thing.)The A's have historical ties to Kansas City.

tk13
10-03-2006, 11:26 AM
Wow, Frank Thomas home run. Big Hurt is mashing. 1-0 Athletics.

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 11:26 AM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. Big Hurt!!!11

Frazod
10-03-2006, 11:27 AM
The A's have historical ties to Kansas City.

I understand that. But still, they play in Oakland. It would be like rooting for the Rockies.

I do like Frank Thomas, though. I hope he has a good post-season.

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 11:27 AM
Wow, Frank Thomas home run. Big Hurt is mashing. 1-0 Athletics.The absolutely best off season move in MLB last year, was getting this guy.

Frazod
10-03-2006, 11:28 AM
Apparently wishing Frank well has paid quick dividends. :D

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 11:28 AM
Santana with 23 pitches already

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 11:29 AM
Apparently wishing Frank well has paid quick dividends. :DHe has definitely been the difference for the A's down the stretch, and is our wild card hope for the playoffs.

Too bad we couldn't have set the table for him.

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 11:30 AM
Lets go Oak land. clap clap, clap clap clap.

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 11:30 AM
Base hit.

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 11:31 AM
Swish, our other big bat, seems to follow Thomas every time he gets an HR this season.

Frazod
10-03-2006, 11:31 AM
If Oakland's playing the Twins, I'm definitely in their corner, at least for this series. God I hate Minnesota. All dome teams must DIE! :#

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 11:31 AM
He also strikes out a lot.

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 11:32 AM
If Oakland's playing the Twins, I'm definitely in their corner, at least for this series. God I hate Minnesota. All dome teams must DIE! :#No chit, there is something un American about playing baseball indoors.

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 11:33 AM
Yes. Marco,, Scutaro. Marco,, Scutaro.

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 11:34 AM
As opposed to Marco, Polo.

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 11:35 AM
We need this extra run, come on Ellis.

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 11:36 AM
The Twins are throwing a rookie pitcher at us tomorrow, but I musn't get ahead of myself, there is a lot of baseball left to go today. Off to a good start though. Hopefully Zito can settle down and get in a groove. Needs to command that vicious Uncle Charlie.

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 11:37 AM
Santana has thrown 38 pitches so far.

I don't know much about the Twins bullpen, but it has to be less effective than this cat.

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 11:39 AM
K

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 11:40 AM
ground ball, !!

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 11:41 AM
22 pitches for Zito

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 11:44 AM
Santana has Kendall's number, two K's against him. .

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 12:03 PM
Which f*ckin thread is the official one???
the one bunny made??or this one??

jlscorpio
10-03-2006, 12:17 PM
Twins= Hottest team in baseball. 12 games back in late jun, took division title on last game of the season. Not a huge fan, but they have been a lot of fun to watch this season.

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 12:17 PM
See post # 12 above. The first person to start the thread gets the "official thread". I should have checked the board more thouroughly before starting the duplicate thread.

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 12:19 PM
59 pitches for Zito

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 12:21 PM
Sorry about the reposted thread, I cannot contain my excitement.

I fixed your post!!!

good luck!!!

And calm down!!!

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 12:25 PM
I am as nervous as heck, time to bust out the only food I have down here at the shop, cup o soup.

Dang it, where are the peanuts when you need them.

Washed down with a nice Sam Adams would be good.

tk13
10-03-2006, 12:26 PM
Twins need to find the rally caps... I think if they lose this game the momentum of the series gets shifted around. I'm not sure I'd take Boof Bonser or Radke over the A's pitching in games 2/3. Of course I'd probably taken Santana over Zito today too.

brent102fire
10-03-2006, 12:28 PM
Baseball = :ZZZ:

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 12:29 PM
Zito is rolling, only 66 pitches

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 12:30 PM
I found some left over Germain Robin, heeheh, that will have to do.

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 12:31 PM
Zito is rolling, only 66 pitches
I am at work and can't see the game..

How about an update???

Score???

Inning??
Please ;)

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 12:31 PM
Uh oh, the walk.

tk13
10-03-2006, 12:33 PM
Twins strand 2 runners and their best scoring opportunity. 2-0 A's after 6 innings.

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 12:33 PM
YES. Way to bear down on that and get out of the jam.

73 pitches.

NJ Chief Fan
10-03-2006, 12:34 PM
The Padres were good that recently? Sheesh...I'm not paying attention!
not saying they were that good, but i just consider the NL that weak. but they do have the best bullpen by far in the NL, and thats very key in the playoffs

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 12:36 PM
not saying they were that good, but i just consider the NL that weak. but they do have the best bullpen by far in the NL, and thats very key in the playoffsI think Trevor is losing it a bit, he gave up that triple to Michael Young in the All Star Game, what was that?

tk13
10-03-2006, 12:37 PM
I'm not sure the Padres don't have the best starters too. I think I'd take their starters over the Mets, especially without Pedro. Peavy has been on fire lately, Wells, Young, Woody Williams. I really like their chances.

tk13
10-03-2006, 12:38 PM
And just as I post that, they announce that Orlando Hernandez needs an MRI and might not start game 1 for the Mets. Their old pitching is breaking down at the wrong time. I really think the NL is wide open.

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 12:40 PM
We need that big hit now.

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 12:40 PM
Swish usually matches Thomas' HR's in games, it has happened a couple of times this year.

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 12:41 PM
81 pitches for Santana

tk13
10-03-2006, 12:43 PM
Swisher's patience pays off. Walks and the bases are loaded with 1 out. Chance to blow it open for the A's.

BIG_DADDY
10-03-2006, 12:43 PM
Bases loaded come on A's

tk13
10-03-2006, 12:45 PM
Line drive right at Hunter, Frank Thomas not able to tag up, 2 outs now.

tk13
10-03-2006, 12:48 PM
Fly out... and the A's leave the bases loaded. Still 2-0, 7th inning stretch.

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 12:51 PM
Fly out... and the A's leave the bases loaded. Still 2-0, 7th inning stretch.
Thanks for the updates tk!!!

keep them coming!!

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 12:52 PM
77 Pitches for zito, He could take this thing all the way.

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 12:52 PM
OOOOPs, there's the dong.

tk13
10-03-2006, 12:53 PM
Rondell White with a 2 out homer, 2-1 A's now.

Twins first two outs in that inning were hard-hit fly balls, then a HR. Zito might be wearing down.

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 01:00 PM
Rondell White with a 2 out homer, 2-1 A's now.

Twins first two outs in that inning were hard-hit fly balls, then a HR. Zito might be wearing down.If I were the A's manager, I would bring in Duke for the 8th.

But he won't.

tk13
10-03-2006, 01:00 PM
Nick Punto with a great catch against the wall in foul territory. Almost had a Steve Bartman moment there though... Twins fan tried to reach over the fence and grab it.

noa
10-03-2006, 01:02 PM
Nick Punto with a great catch against the wall in foul territory. Almost had a Steve Bartman moment there though... Twins fan tried to reach over the fence and grab it.


I thought the exact same thing when I saw that fan. You gotta be smart when your team is in the playoffs, even if it means giving up a souvenier.

tk13
10-03-2006, 01:06 PM
Bartlett leads off the Twins 8th with a double. Another hard hit ball.

JBucc
10-03-2006, 01:07 PM
Uh-oh

tk13
10-03-2006, 01:08 PM
Oh wow. Bartlett caught way off 2nd base, should've been picked off, but Kendall's snap throw to 2nd was horrible. Saved a killer out.

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 01:09 PM
Zito is not good for much more than 100 pitches, and sometimes has flamed out in the 80's.

We'll see.

tk13
10-03-2006, 01:10 PM
Haha, Bartlett gets to third with some bad baserunning. 2 outs, Mauer up. Huge AB here.

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 01:10 PM
2 outs, man I wish they would have got some more runs back when the bases were loaded.

tk13
10-03-2006, 01:11 PM
And Mauer flies out. Missed opportunity there. 2-1 A's going to the 9th.

Stinger
10-03-2006, 01:14 PM
Big Hurt does it again wow

tk13
10-03-2006, 01:14 PM
Frank Thomas with a moonshot. 3-1 A's. Big Hurt has come to play.

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 01:15 PM
HURT :HURT HURT

BIG_DADDY
10-03-2006, 01:15 PM
Thomas has been huge for the A's this season

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 01:16 PM
Big Hurt does it again wowI called my mom, after his first one, and she said that dang it, it came too early and with no one on.

I said to her, "Don't worry, its the playoffs, he will hit another one. "

Nick Swisher is now due, big time.

Frazod
10-03-2006, 01:21 PM
I wonder who's more pissed - Ozzie Guillen or Kenny Williams? LMAO

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 01:22 PM
MARCO....

Chief Chief
10-03-2006, 01:23 PM
Twins > A's
Tigers > Yankees

Padres > Cardinals
Mets > Dodgers

Tigers > Twins
Mets > Padres

Mets > Tigers


Tigers vs. Mets

Mets

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 01:23 PM
MARCO....
English brudda!!!

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 01:24 PM
chit.

tk13
10-03-2006, 01:24 PM
To the bottom of the 9th. 3-1 A's. Cuddyer, Mourneau, Hunter due up for the Twins.

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 01:24 PM
I would have Duke close this one.

Street has been blowing lately.

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 01:25 PM
Lets go A's!!!!

Close them out!!!

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 01:25 PM
Let's hope the kid is up for it.

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 01:26 PM
Lets go A's!!!!

Close them out!!!What, Bill, do your Yankees want a piece of that A's?

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 01:26 PM
What, Bill, do your Yankees want a piece of that A's?
Of Course!!!

The A's are the better match up for us!!! ;)

tk13
10-03-2006, 01:27 PM
Wow! Milton Bradley loses a routine fly ball in the dome.... Cuddyer gets all the way to 3rd. Nobody out, the crowd is back into it.

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 01:28 PM
Here he goes, street em and greet em.

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 01:28 PM
Wow! Milton Bradley loses a routine fly ball in the dome.... Cuddyer gets all the way to 3rd. Nobody out, the crowd is back into it.
CHIT!!! :#

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 01:28 PM
O.K. kid, settle down now and get these outs.

tk13
10-03-2006, 01:28 PM
Mourneau with a flyout, Cuddyer stays at 3rd, 1 out.

tk13
10-03-2006, 01:29 PM
Hunter grounds out, run scores. 2 out, bases empty, 3-2 A's. That Frank Thomas HR is huge now.

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 01:29 PM
O.k, 2 down, lets do it.

tk13
10-03-2006, 01:30 PM
Fly out... A's win, take a 1-0 series lead.

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 01:30 PM
YES>>>>>>Q!!!!! A's win. take series lead 1-0!!111

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 01:30 PM
YES>>>>>>Q!!!!! A's win. take series lead 1-0!!111
Congrats Bunny!! :D

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 01:31 PM
Fly out... A's win, take a 1-0 series lead.
Thanks for the play by play!!!

BIG_DADDY
10-03-2006, 01:32 PM
Twins > A's
Tigers > Yankees

Padres > Cardinals
Mets > Dodgers

Tigers > Twins
Mets > Padres

Mets > Tigers


Tigers vs. Mets

Mets

With East Coast biase like that you should work for ESPN

Frazod
10-03-2006, 01:32 PM
Outstanding! :thumb:

DIE TWINKIE SCUM! :#

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 01:32 PM
Congrats Bunny!! :DI can hear this song right now:

Yahoo! This is your celebration
Yahoo! This is your celebration
Celebrate good times, come on! (Let's celebrate)
Celebrate good times, come on! (Let's celebrate)
There's a party goin' on right here
A celebration to last throughout the years
So bring your good times, and your laughter too
We gonna celebrate your party with you
Come on now
Celebration
Let's all celebrate and have a good time
Celebration
We gonna celebrate and have a good time
It's time to come together
It's up to you, what's your pleasure
Everyone around the world
Come on!
Yahoo! It's a celebration
Yahoo!
Celebrate good times, come on!
It's a celebration
Celebrate good times, come on!
Let's celebrate
We're gonna have a good time tonight
Let's celebrate, it's all right
We're gonna have a good time tonight
Let's celebrate, it's all right
Baby...
We're gonna have a good time tonight (Ce-le-bra-tion)
Let's celebrate, it's all right
We're gonna have a good time tonight (Ce-le-bra-tion)
Let's celebrate, it's all right
Yahoo!
Yahoo!
Celebrate good times, come on! (Let's celebrate)
Celebrate good times, come on!
It's a celebration!
Celebrate good times, come on! (Let's celebrate)
Come on and celebrate, good times, tonight (Celebrate good times, come on!)
'Cause everything's gonna be all right
Let's celebrate (Celebrate good times, come on)
(Let's celebrate)...

BIG_DADDY
10-03-2006, 01:32 PM
YES>>>>>>Q!!!!! A's win. take series lead 1-0!!111

OUTSTANDING!!!!

Frazod
10-03-2006, 01:33 PM
With East Coast biase like that you should work for ESPN

He picked against the Yankmees - ESPN would fire him faster than they did Whitlock.

BIG_DADDY
10-03-2006, 01:33 PM
I can hear this song right now:

Yahoo! This is your celebration
Yahoo! This is your celebration
Celebrate good times, come on! (Let's celebrate)
Celebrate good times, come on! (Let's celebrate)
There's a party goin' on right here
A celebration to last throughout the years
So bring your good times, and your laughter too
We gonna celebrate your party with you
Come on now
Celebration
Let's all celebrate and have a good time
Celebration
We gonna celebrate and have a good time
It's time to come together
It's up to you, what's your pleasure
Everyone around the world
Come on!
Yahoo! It's a celebration
Yahoo!
Celebrate good times, come on!
It's a celebration
Celebrate good times, come on!
Let's celebrate
We're gonna have a good time tonight
Let's celebrate, it's all right
We're gonna have a good time tonight
Let's celebrate, it's all right
Baby...
We're gonna have a good time tonight (Ce-le-bra-tion)
Let's celebrate, it's all right
We're gonna have a good time tonight (Ce-le-bra-tion)
Let's celebrate, it's all right
Yahoo!
Yahoo!
Celebrate good times, come on! (Let's celebrate)
Celebrate good times, come on!
It's a celebration!
Celebrate good times, come on! (Let's celebrate)
Come on and celebrate, good times, tonight (Celebrate good times, come on!)
'Cause everything's gonna be all right
Let's celebrate (Celebrate good times, come on)
(Let's celebrate)...

That song reminds me of the Pirates

tk13
10-03-2006, 01:33 PM
That's the first time Santana has lost a home game all year.

JBucc
10-03-2006, 01:33 PM
What's the NLDS record of teams that have won on the road in the first game?

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 01:33 PM
I can hear this song right now:

Yahoo! This is your celebration
Yahoo! This is your celebration
Celebrate good times, come on! (Let's celebrate)
Celebrate good times, come on! (Let's celebrate)
There's a party goin' on right here
A celebration to last throughout the years
So bring your good times, and your laughter too
We gonna celebrate your party with you
Come on now
Celebration
Let's all celebrate and have a good time
Celebration
We gonna celebrate and have a good time
It's time to come together
It's up to you, what's your pleasure
Everyone around the world
Come on!
Yahoo! It's a celebration
Yahoo!
Celebrate good times, come on!
It's a celebration
Celebrate good times, come on!
Let's celebrate
We're gonna have a good time tonight
Let's celebrate, it's all right
We're gonna have a good time tonight
Let's celebrate, it's all right
Baby...
We're gonna have a good time tonight (Ce-le-bra-tion)
Let's celebrate, it's all right
We're gonna have a good time tonight (Ce-le-bra-tion)
Let's celebrate, it's all right
Yahoo!
Yahoo!
Celebrate good times, come on! (Let's celebrate)
Celebrate good times, come on!
It's a celebration!
Celebrate good times, come on! (Let's celebrate)
Come on and celebrate, good times, tonight (Celebrate good times, come on!)
'Cause everything's gonna be all right
Let's celebrate (Celebrate good times, come on)
(Let's celebrate)...

Heh..KOOL AND THE GANG!!!

BIG_DADDY
10-03-2006, 01:34 PM
He picked against the Yankmees - ESPN would fire him faster than they did Whitlock.

Picked all East Coast though.

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 01:35 PM
With East Coast biase like that you should work for ESPNTroy, did you bet em?

Frazod
10-03-2006, 01:35 PM
Picked all East Coast though.

Uh, Detroit is pretty far from the East Coast.

Unless you're talking Lake Huron, that is, then I guess that's pretty accurate. :)

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 01:36 PM
Heh..KOOL AND THE GANG!!!The A's have been playing that after every win since, like when that song was made.

Kind of a tradition, you know, like Frank Sinatra.

"Start spreading the news..."

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 01:38 PM
Umm, lets' see, who was the MVP of that Game?

He is flat out becoming MR. Clutch for the A's.

They wouldn't be in the playoffs right now without his bat.

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 01:41 PM
The A's have been playing that after every win since, like when that song was made.

Kind of a tradition, you know, like Frank Sinatra.

"Start spreading the news..."
Didn't know that..thanks for enlightening me!!

It's nice being the first game..now you can relax and watch everybody else sweat!!

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 01:42 PM
Didn't know that..thanks for enlightening me!!

It's nice being the first game..now you can relax and watch everybody else sweat!!It's baseball though, you cant enjoy it too much, because it is what it is, just one game. I have been here before, trust me. It isn't over.

Coach
10-03-2006, 01:44 PM
And just as I post that, they announce that Orlando Hernandez needs an MRI and might not start game 1 for the Mets. Their old pitching is breaking down at the wrong time. I really think the NL is wide open.

Oh boy. If it's serious, the Mets playoffs hopes just nearly flushed down the toilet.

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 01:44 PM
It's baseball though, you cant enjoy it too much, because it is what it is, just one game. I have been here before, trust me. It isn't over.
No!!!!

I meant enjoying the rest of today's games!!!

BIG_DADDY
10-03-2006, 01:45 PM
Troy, did you bet em?

No, Taylor did a good friend of mine. 1k

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 01:46 PM
That song reminds me of the PiratesAre you talking 1979 Pittsburgh Pirates? Willie Stargell, Kend Tekulve?

Their song was "We are fam i ly, I got all my sisters and me."

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 01:47 PM
No, Taylor did a good friend of mine. 1kNice. You know Troy, The less you bet the more you lose when you win.

BIG_DADDY
10-03-2006, 01:48 PM
Are you talking 1979 Pittsburgh Pirates? Willie Stargell, Kend Tekulve?

Their song was "We are fam i ly, I got all my sisters and me."

Uhhh, I must be getting old. LOL That song annoys me too.

Frazod
10-03-2006, 02:09 PM
Cards/Padres up shortly.

The way I feel about the Cardinals right now is pretty much the way Jim feels about the Chiefs. It's depressing. :huh:

But perhaps they can shock everybody, including me.

Stinger
10-03-2006, 02:10 PM
Cards/Padres up shortly.

The way I feel about the Cardinals right now is pretty much the way Jim feels about the Chiefs. It's depressing. :huh:

But perhaps they can shock everybody, including me.

Amen

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 02:14 PM
Uhhh, I must be getting old. LOL That song annoys me too.You racist. :D lol

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 02:17 PM
Cards/Padres up shortly.

The way I feel about the Cardinals right now is pretty much the way Jim feels about the Chiefs. It's depressing. :huh:

But perhaps they can shock everybody, including me.Whatever happened to that non sliding bitch Jeremy Giambi? I lost track of him at St Louis.

By the way, can we help you out with a few more former players and managers?

Frazod
10-03-2006, 02:20 PM
Whatever happened to that non sliding bitch Jeremy Giambi? I lost track of him at St Louis.

By the way, can we help you out with a few more former players and managers?

Perhaps we could trade you our best young prospect for a washed up piece of shit? Oh wait, that already happened. :#

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 02:32 PM
Perhaps we could trade you our best young prospect for a washed up piece of shit? Oh wait, that already happened. :#You mean Harden?

He is nice and rested for the playoffs. :p:

Frazod
10-03-2006, 02:37 PM
You mean Harden?

He is nice and rested for the playoffs. :p:

4321 :banghead: :deevee:

tk13
10-03-2006, 03:02 PM
Wow, Pujols destroys one. After Piazza dropped a foul pop up behind the plate too. 2-0 Cardinals.

Stinger
10-03-2006, 03:03 PM
WTG Phat Albert!!!!!!!!!! PBJ PBJ

OnTheWarpath58
10-03-2006, 03:03 PM
Piazza blows a foul ball to retire Pujols......

Then AP deposits a ball in the left field bullpen.

2-0 Cardinals, Top of the 4th.

Frazod
10-03-2006, 03:04 PM
Albert :wayne:

OnTheWarpath58
10-03-2006, 03:09 PM
Rolen with a double......

2nd and 3rd, nobody out.....

Cards could break this thing open.....

Chan Ho Park warming......

Encarnacion with the sac fly....

3-0 Cards.

Frazod
10-03-2006, 03:13 PM
And Molina chokes as usual. :shake:

OnTheWarpath58
10-03-2006, 03:16 PM
And Molina chokes as usual. :shake:

Yeah, that catch by Roberts may end up being a big part of this game if the Cardinals have to get into the bullpen.....

They'll need all the runs they can get....

Coach
10-03-2006, 04:50 PM
Good pitching day for Carpenter.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-03-2006, 05:03 PM
Carp pitched well, but put himself in a lot of high stress situations, which wore him down early. I am totally shocked that Johnson came in and slammed the door like that...hopefully Wainwright can become the STL version of Papelbon for the playoffs.

OnTheWarpath58
10-03-2006, 05:03 PM
Cards win, 5-1.

Weaver v. Wells on Thursday......

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-03-2006, 05:04 PM
Cards win, 5-1.

Weaver v. Wells on Thursday......

The countdown to Weaver's implosion begins....

Coach
10-03-2006, 05:18 PM
And Detroit playing against the Yanks to end the day.

FWIW, on Sportscenter, it says Det. has lost 30 of it's last 51 games.

JBucc
10-03-2006, 05:20 PM
The playoffs this year are totally uncompelling. Unless your team is in there isn't one good storyline to follow, not a good cinderella team to root for. All we've got is two NY teams, two teams that backed in, and the rest are just ok teams.

MarcBulger
10-03-2006, 05:29 PM
How do you back into the playoffs? You either make it or you don't....

Frazod
10-03-2006, 05:57 PM
Cards win, 5-1.

Weaver v. Wells on Thursday......

Cool.

Apparently the Cardinals aren't quite dead yet, and don't want to get on the cart. :D

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 05:58 PM
That pussy Kenny Rogers doesn't want to pitch in Yankee stadium..

I am not surprised

Frazod
10-03-2006, 06:00 PM
And Detroit playing against the Yanks to end the day.

FWIW, on Sportscenter, it says Det. has lost 30 of it's last 51 games.

It would be cool to see the underdogs go 3-0 today.

Of course, the f#cking Yankmees get the prime time game. God I hate those overpaid pricks. GO TIGERS! :#

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 06:02 PM
It would be cool to see the underdogs go 3-0 today.

Of course, the f#cking Yankmees get the prime time game. God I hate those overpaid pricks. GO TIGERS! :#
Cool..I'm the only Yankee fan..this should be fun.. :D

Demonpenz
10-03-2006, 06:06 PM
go yankees go arod 27 time world champs. greatest sports franchise in the world.

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 06:08 PM
go yankees go arod 27 time world champs. greatest sports franchise in the world.
Heh..I guess I was wrong :toast:

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-03-2006, 06:54 PM
go yankees go arod 27 time world champs. greatest sports franchise in the world.

Their pitching is going to implode in the postseason.

Calcountry
10-03-2006, 06:56 PM
That pussy Kenny Rogers doesn't want to pitch in Yankee stadium..

I am not surprisedDid you guys offer him 50 million?

Miles
10-03-2006, 07:02 PM
That pussy Kenny Rogers doesn't want to pitch in Yankee stadium..

I am not surprised

Im sure thats it rather than him having pitched two days ago.

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 07:03 PM
Did you guys offer him 50 million?
????

Rogers???

In 96..yes..lately..no

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 07:05 PM
Im sure thats it rather than him having pitched two days ago.
Did he pitch 2 days ago??
didn't know that..my bad
Sorry Kenny
:rolleyes:

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 07:05 PM
Their pitching is going to implode in the postseason.
:LOL:

Miles
10-03-2006, 07:06 PM
Did he pitch 2 days ago??
didn't know that..my bad
Sorry Kenny
:rolleyes:

No worries he is still a douche. Though his old ass is still a pretty effective pitcher.

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 07:07 PM
No worries he is still a douche.
Even if he was rested..I still don't think they would have pitched him at Yankee stadium..He implodes under pressure all the time..

Reaper16
10-03-2006, 07:14 PM
Nate Robertson. Lol.

Coach
10-03-2006, 07:15 PM
Dammit.

2-0 NY on a 2 RBI double for Abreu.

Now 3-0 on a RBI single for Sheffield.

Cochise
10-03-2006, 07:15 PM
Been a nice run, Tigers.

Bend over.

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 07:16 PM
There's a long way to go still..

But I love it!!!!3-0 :D

Reaper16
10-03-2006, 07:17 PM
Not that I'm a Yankees fan, but **** the Tigers.

Reaper16
10-03-2006, 07:19 PM
Yeah, you knew at contact that was leaving the park. Game over already.

tk13
10-03-2006, 07:20 PM
The Yankees lineup is just ridiculous. This should be illegal.

Miles
10-03-2006, 07:22 PM
The Yankees lineup is just ridiculous. This should be illegal.

Might be the best I have seen since I started watching baseball.

Cochise
10-03-2006, 07:22 PM
Detroit's payroll has run all the way up to $95 million, but against the $213 million Yankees they are still bringing a knife to a gunfight.

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 07:24 PM
Getting Abreau really turned things around..He is like a Paul O'neil clone at the plate

Cochise
10-03-2006, 07:29 PM
You know, I'm not sure how a baseball game could be more odious.

You have a team from the Royals' division that was one of the worst teams in the modern era of baseball just 3 years ago, yet has turned it around and made the playoff appearance we have been unable to make in more than 20 years.

Currently they are getting crushed by the evil empire, proving once again that even if the Royals managed to make a miraculous organizational turnaround, they'd have an egg's chance in a woodchipper of actually winning the series against what will be a $500 bazillion payroll in a couple of years.

And on top of this, you have to listen to Fox's cranked up crowd audio and friggin Joe Buck. I bet they are showing this game on the flight to hell right now.

This is freakin' depressing.

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 07:37 PM
The Royals should go after Joe Girardi..he did a great Job with the Marlins!!!

Is Buddy Bell coming back from his illness??
I have not heard anything

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-03-2006, 07:39 PM
Detroit's payroll has run all the way up to $95 million, but against the $213 million Yankees they are still bringing a knife to a gunfight.

The White Sox won the WS with a payroll the fraction of the Yanks, so did the '03 Marlins, '02 Angels. There is a point of diminishing returns when it comes to player salaries, and the Yankees are indicative of that. Are they the favorites to win this year? Without a doubt. But they still have several weaknesses that even a near quarter-billion dollar payroll can't patch up because they haven't scouted well, drafted well, or developed players worth a damn in the last ten years.

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 07:40 PM
The White Sox won the WS with a payroll the fraction of the Yanks, so did the '03 Marlins, '02 Angels. There is a point of diminishing returns when it comes to player salaries, and the Yankees are indicative of that. Are they the favorites to win this year? Without a doubt. But they still have several weaknesses that even a near quarter-billion dollar payroll can't patch up because they haven't scouted well, drafted well, or developed players worth a damn in the last ten years.
The Yankees won the world series in 1996 with a nothing payroll..and not too many stars..there is hope

Coach
10-03-2006, 07:41 PM
You know, I'm not sure how a baseball game could be more odious.

You have a team from the Royals' division that was one of the worst teams in the modern era of baseball just 3 years ago, yet has turned it around and made the playoff appearance we have been unable to make in more than 20 years.

Currently they are getting crushed by the evil empire, proving once again that even if the Royals managed to make a miraculous organizational turnaround, they'd have an egg's chance in a woodchipper of actually winning the series against what will be a $500 bazillion payroll in a couple of years.

And on top of this, you have to listen to Fox's cranked up crowd audio and friggin Joe Buck. I bet they are showing this game on the flight to hell right now.

This is freakin' depressing.

Yeah, I was annoyed on the cranked up noise that when the pitch hits the catcher's glove, it makes a sudden "Whoomp" noise. As for Buck, he's all right, but Tim McCarver is just plain terrible. And frankly, I couldn't give a shit if Donald Trump, Spike Lee, or whatever goddamn famous people is in the house. Just broadcast the goddamned game.

As for the Royals situation, if they get lucky somehow finding a power arms in the rotation, I would imagine they can do something, along with the offense that we have, that could get better.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-03-2006, 07:44 PM
The Yankees won the world series in 1996 with a nothing payroll..and not too many stars..there is hope

The 96 yankees had several stars, only no one knew who they were just yet. It's funny that the larger their payroll has gotten, the more flaws have been exposed in their team.

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 07:46 PM
The 96 yankees had several stars, only no one knew who they were just yet. It's funny that the larger their payroll has gotten, the more flaws have been exposed in their team.
What???

this is not the same team as 96..Jeter was a rookie..Mariano duncan..Cecil Fielder..Rivera was a 2nd year player..Tim Raines??

you have to elaborate..your making no sense

Cochise
10-03-2006, 07:47 PM
Yeah, I was annoyed on the cranked up noise that when the pitch hits the catcher's glove, it makes a sudden "Whoomp" noise.

I mean that when the ball is hit, it's like they are turning the sound way, way up. Just to make it seem more exciting or something. It sounds really weird and unnatural.

Coach
10-03-2006, 07:49 PM
The Royals should go after Joe Girardi..he did a great Job with the Marlins!!!

Is Buddy Bell coming back from his illness??
I have not heard anything

More than likely Bell will be back in KC.

I think Girardi maybe going to the Chicago Cubs, but it's just a hunch.

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 07:52 PM
More than likely Bell will be back in KC.

I think Girardi maybe going to the Chicago Cubs, but it's just a hunch.
Gotchya..

It's 5-2 Yankees now

Coach
10-03-2006, 07:52 PM
I mean that when the ball is hit, it's like they are turning the sound way, way up. Just to make it seem more exciting or something. It sounds really weird and unnatural.

Yeah, I know what you mean. I was just referring to the ball hitting the catcher's mitt where it just goes "Whoomp!" over and over.

Tiggers slowly clawing their way back in the game.

5-2 now.

Cochise
10-03-2006, 07:53 PM
The Yankees won the world series in 1996 with a nothing payroll..and not too many stars..there is hope

Sure, there are exceptions. Sometimes a team with a lot of talent loses to a team with less talent in any sport at any level.

I don't think the question so much is "is it possible", it should be "is this way better". I don't think there is any question that the league would be more competitive and interesting with a cap like other sports have.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-03-2006, 07:53 PM
What???

this is not the same team as 96..Jeter was a rookie..Mariano duncan..Cecil Fielder..Rivera was a 2nd year player..Tim Raines??

you have to elaborate..your making no sense

Paul O'Neill, Tino Martinez, Bernie Williams Derek Jeter...those are all star caliber players, but they were largely unknown to the public.

Not to mention that they had Wade Boggs and Tim Raines, HOF caliber players, and Boggs played everyday.

Bernie Williams was a stud at that point, Mariano Duncan hit .340 that year.

Andy Pettite, Jimmy Key, David Cone, Kenny Rogers and Dwight Gooden were their starting five. Cone and Gooden won Cy Youngs in their career, and although Gooden wasn't the same as he was in 86, he was still pretty good that year. Cone won a couple of CY's I believe. Pettite won 21 games that year.

Their bullpen was UNGODLY. Rivera and Nelson, who were great setup men, John Wetteland...hell, they had Bob Wickman, a solid closer NOW, as a middle relief guy.

That team was very, very good.

Cochise
10-03-2006, 07:54 PM
alright... Tigers waking up maybe.

Coach
10-03-2006, 07:54 PM
5-3 now.

tk13
10-03-2006, 07:54 PM
5-3 now... Tigers aren't quitting.

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 07:55 PM
Sure, there are exceptions. Sometimes a team with a lot of talent loses to a team with less talent in any sport at any level.

I don't think the question so much is "is it possible", it should be "is this way better". I don't think there is any question that the league would be more competitive and interesting with a cap like other sports have.
I agree..

In Baseball it's almost impossible to compete with big market teams

Coach
10-03-2006, 07:56 PM
The inning ends, but the Tiggers get 3 back.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-03-2006, 08:03 PM
I agree..

In Baseball it's almost impossible to compete with big market teams

This statement is true if you add "without a good GM"...

Look at the Twins, the A's, Cardinals, even the Tigers. They all have great GMs and have built great teams with smaller payrolls.

The Tigers may be at 95 million now, but a huge chunk of that is tied up in Pudge, Ordonez and Rodriguez, the reason why this team is in the playoffs is because Dombrowski is a great GM and drafted young power arms.

My god, look at the Twins. Santana was a rule 5 draft pick, Liriano and Joe Nathan were throw ins in a trade w/ the Giants. Mauer, Morneau, and Hunter are all homegrown talents.

The Cardinals haven't drafted especially well, but Jocketty goes a great job in getting maximum value off of minimal input (the Carpenter deal, the JD Drew trade, etc.) They got Rolen for Bud Smith and Placido Polanco; Marquis and Wainwright (who is going to be a stud) for JD Drew when Drew was in a walk year, and Preston Wilson, Larry Walker, and Will Clark in years where they needed bats for nothing. Hell, the Rockies paid all but a fraction of Walker's salary in '04 and he was one of our best hitters down the stretch.

A competent GM outweighs a thick checkbook in baseball

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-03-2006, 08:05 PM
I agree..

In Baseball it's almost impossible to compete with big market teams

Parcells, go up the thread to check my post on the 96 yanks, I think you'll find they were a hell of a lot better than what you give them credit for.

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 08:07 PM
This statement is true if you add "without a good GM"...

Look at the Twins, the A's, Cardinals, even the Tigers. They all have great GMs and have built great teams with smaller payrolls.

The Tigers may be at 95 million now, but a huge chunk of that is tied up in Pudge, Ordonez and Rodriguez, the reason why this team is in the playoffs is because Dombrowski is a great GM and drafted young power arms.

My god, look at the Twins. Santana was a rule 5 draft pick, Liriano and Joe Nathan were throw ins in a trade w/ the Giants. Mauer, Morneau, and Hunter are all homegrown talents.

The Cardinals haven't drafted especially well, but Jocketty goes a great job in getting maximum value off of minimal input (the Carpenter deal, the JD Drew trade, etc.) They got Rolen for Bud Smith and Placido Polanco; Marquis and Wainwright (who is going to be a stud) for JD Drew when Drew was in a walk year, and Preston Wilson, Larry Walker, and Will Clark in years where they needed bats for nothing. Hell, the Rockies paid all but a fraction of Walker's salary in '04 and he was one of our best hitters down the stretch.

A competent GM outweighs a thick checkbook in baseball


You are 100% correct Hamas..do you remember a guy named Stick Michael??
He built the core of the Yankee teams in the mid to late 90's when heir Steinbrenner was booted from baseball and the Yankees were the laughing stock of baseball..

I agree!!!

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-03-2006, 08:13 PM
You are 100% correct Hamas..do you remember a guy named Stick Michael??
He built the core of the Yankee teams in the mid to late 90's when heir Steinbrenner was booted from baseball and the Yankees were the laughing stock of baseball..

I agree!!!

Yup, and they haven't had the same kind of success since that 'core' aged. Cashman is an empty suit if I've ever seen one. Imagine how deadly you guys would have been if you had made the smart baseball move and taken Vlad over "flaxseed" Sheffield?

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 08:13 PM
Parcells, go up the thread to check my post on the 96 yanks, I think you'll find they were a hell of a lot better than what you give them credit for.
That was a good post!!!

But..Bernie Williams break out year was 96..they traded for O'neil and Tino..and Fielder..There were not as many free agents as they have now,Key..Boggs(payroll?)..And Rivera was a 2nd year player and Jeter was a rookie..

It was a very good team..but Stick Michael made that team..Not heir Steinbrenner

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 08:15 PM
Yup, and they haven't had the same kind of success since that 'core' aged. Cashman is an empty suit if I've ever seen one. Imagine how deadly you guys would have been if you had made the smart baseball move and taken Vlad over "flaxseed" Sheffield?
I didn't want Vlad or Pasano..or Wright..or Farnsworth

A waste of money there

Miles
10-03-2006, 08:18 PM
Imagine how deadly you guys would have been if you had made the smart baseball move and taken Vlad over "flaxseed" Sheffield?

That was one of the few times they went for the less expensive player. There were also some issues with Vlads back at the time that made paying him a giant contract a gamble. Other than the injury this year Sheff has been pretty damn solid for them.

Cashman has made some fairly solid moves recently after the Pavano disaster.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-03-2006, 08:19 PM
I didn't want Vlad or Pasano..or Wright..or Farnsworth

A waste of money there

Now, I realize that Vlad might not be a NY media guy, but he's a better all around player than Sheffield. He's got similar power numbers in a less hitter-friendly park, has a better glove, and a much much better arm. He's also several years younger.

Wright just sucks, and Farnsworth always has. I wish he was still with the Cubs.

Miles
10-03-2006, 08:21 PM
and Farnsworth always has. I wish he was still with the Cubs.

No shit, I miss that guy.

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 08:21 PM
Now, I realize that Vlad might not be a NY media guy, but he's a better all around player than Sheffield. He's got similar power numbers in a less hitter-friendly park, has a better glove, and a much much better arm. He's also several years younger.

Wright just sucks, and Farnsworth always has. I wish he was still with the Cubs.
What pisses me off is that heir Steinbrenner didn't want to pay Pettite or Leiber this kind of money..but spewed it out to these rejects like Wright and Farnsworth and Pavano..that still pisses me off..

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-03-2006, 08:22 PM
#1 Sheffield makes more than Guerrero, look at their contracts

#2
Similar batters to Guerrero at this point in his career ( I realize his numbers are inflated b/c of the era he's in, but still)

Willie Mays (917) *
Duke Snider (914) *
Manny Ramirez (884)
Frank Robinson (880) *
Orlando Cepeda (879) *
Juan Gonzalez (878)
Hank Aaron (862) *
Joe DiMaggio (851) *
Goose Goslin (846) *
Hank Greenberg (844)


I mean, JFC, that's some nice company.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-03-2006, 08:23 PM
Abreu with the weakest seeing-eye two RBI single you will EVER see :shake:

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 08:27 PM
Are you sure??

I thought Guerrero made more than Sheffield

Miles
10-03-2006, 08:28 PM
#1 Sheffield makes more than Guerrero, look at their contracts


Sheff signed a three-year, $39 million contract. Vlad signed a 5 year contract for around $70 million.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-03-2006, 08:32 PM
Sheff signed a three-year, $39 million contract. Vlad signed a 5 year contract for around $70 million.

Over the first three years, Sheffield makes more. Vlad made 11, 12.5, and something in the 13 range.


The next two years are still for a younger player than Sheff would be at the beginning of his contract.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-03-2006, 08:36 PM
So you pay more for an older Sheffield during the comparable years of their contracts. Yeah, if Vlad snaps his back I guess they would have had to eat more of his contract, but it's not like Sheffield was immune to health problems himself. I think when you factor in his age and prior injury history (having only played over 150 games twice in a career that goes back to '88) That there is an equal risk, albeit a greater catastrophic risk factor for Guerrero, but at the same time the short term AND the long term benefits would be greater. That's bad baseball, IMO.

(Sheffield is also a terrible teammate and a clubhouse cancer, a guy that talented should never be traded 4 times).

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-03-2006, 08:39 PM
And now we see why Mike Myers never even made it out of camp for the Cards in '05.

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 08:43 PM
They should have brought in Vallone!!!

tk13
10-03-2006, 08:45 PM
And the tying run will come to the plate in the form of Ordonez. Huge chance here.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-03-2006, 08:47 PM
I think the Yanks overused Proctor this season, but fortunately Ordonez chokes as he is wont to do.

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 08:48 PM
Enter Sandman very soon..we are past the 7th inning

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-03-2006, 08:49 PM
The Sandman's limited to 1 inning supposedly...

I'm sure I'll get pilloried for this, but I really think that the 10 minutes they take for the God Bless America rendition at the Yankees game is ridiculous.

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 08:50 PM
I think the Yanks overused Proctor this season, but fortunately Ordonez chokes as he is wont to do


Hamas..you are always very articulate..WTF does that mean?? :D

Frazod
10-03-2006, 08:50 PM
I'm sick of hearing God Bless America at ball games. Especially when it's being sung by some pompous douche like this guy. :spock:

Miles
10-03-2006, 08:50 PM
I'm sure I'll get pilloried for this, but I really think that the 10 minutes they take for the God Bless America rendition at the Yankees game is ridiculous.

Its definity a bit much. I really don't care for shit like that while the game is in progress.

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 08:51 PM
The Sandman's limited to 1 inning supposedly...

I'm sure I'll get pilloried for this, but I really think that the 10 minutes they take for the God Bless America rendition at the Yankees game is ridiculous.
Thats been like that since 9/11..A tradition I should say since 9/11

Frazod
10-03-2006, 08:54 PM
I'm sure I'll get pilloried for this, but I really think that the 10 minutes they take for the God Bless America rendition at the Yankees game is ridiculous.

Obviously, not by me. :)

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-03-2006, 08:56 PM
Hamas..you are always very articulate..WTF does that mean?? :D

It means he is likely to choke, like your boy A-Rod. That's one of the reasons the Sox got rid of him.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-03-2006, 08:57 PM
Its definity a bit much. I really don't care for shit like that while the game is in progress.

I understand why they want to do it, but at the same time, you've got a pitcher on the opposing team ready to go out there, and I think it really throws them off their game. They could do it before the game, and I'd have no problem with it.

Miles
10-03-2006, 08:58 PM
I understand why they want to do it, but at the same time, you've got a pitcher on the opposing team ready to go out there, and I think it really throws them off their game. They could do it before the game, and I'd have no problem with it.

Well said.

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 08:58 PM
It means he is likely to choke, like your boy A-Rod. That's one of the reasons the Sox got rid of him.
I can't stand Arod!!!

He doesn't even have productive outs!!!

Which is not asking much

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-03-2006, 09:02 PM
I can't stand Arod!!!

He doesn't even have productive outs!!!

Which is not asking much

After suffering through two playoff years with Reggie Sanders, I can tell you all about non-productive outs. That MF'er couldn't advance a runner with a gun to his head. Of course, he can pound a homerun in a 6-0 game with the best of them...

tk13
10-03-2006, 09:08 PM
Farnsworthless + pressure = fun

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-03-2006, 09:08 PM
Farnsworth slays me. He has more talent than about any relief pitcher in MLB and the dumb sonofabitch has a brain that makes the post-Joe Carter Mitch Williams look stable.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-03-2006, 09:11 PM
That 1-1 call on Monroe was f*cking terrible.

Frazod
10-03-2006, 09:11 PM
After suffering through two playoff years with Reggie Sanders, I can tell you all about non-productive outs. That MF'er couldn't advance a runner with a gun to his head. Of course, he can pound a homerun in a 6-0 game with the best of them...

That wasn't always the case. Last year, he pretty much beat San Diego by himself. He did vanish vs. the Asstros, though.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-03-2006, 09:12 PM
Anyone just see that Joe Pesci looking mf'er with the permed mullet and the backwards Yankee cap? LMAO, I love New Yorkers.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-03-2006, 09:13 PM
That wasn't always the case. Last year, he pretty much beat San Diego by himself. He did vanish vs. the Asstros, though.

That is true, He had a billion RBI in that series, started out hot against the 'stros, crushed his skull diving for a ball in game 2, and then was an automatic out the rest of the series.

tk13
10-03-2006, 09:13 PM
Haha what was that? That was the latest strike call ever. Enrico Palazzo behind the plate.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-03-2006, 09:17 PM
There is no excuse for Detroit not putting up a couple of runs against Farnsworth there. He got some calls, yes, but he couldn't locate for sh*t and his fastball was 3-4 mph slower than usual.

Miles
10-03-2006, 09:17 PM
WTF Farnsworth geting a huge strike zone?

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 09:18 PM
Enter Sandman o:-)

Frazod
10-03-2006, 09:18 PM
That is true, He had a billion RBI in that series, started out hot against the 'stros, crushed his skull diving for a ball in game 2, and then was an automatic out the rest of the series.

I forgot about him getting hurt. Of course, I've tried hard to repress my memories of that godawful series. I hate Houston like I hate Denver.

Miles
10-03-2006, 09:19 PM
There is no excuse for Detroit not putting up a couple of runs against Farnsworth there. He got some calls, yes, but he couldn't locate for sh*t and his fastball was 3-4 mph slower than usual.

He did seem a bit slower than usual. I was hoping for some of his trademark wildness followed up by a high velocity fastball over the heart of the plate with absolutly no movement.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-03-2006, 09:20 PM
I forgot about him getting hurt. Of course, I've tried hard to repress my memories of that godawful series. I hate Houston like I hate Denver.

You are telling me...I bought tickets for game 6 after the Pujols bomb, drove from NW Ohio to St. Louis, and then watched Oswalt just rape us.

tk13
10-03-2006, 09:23 PM
And people think Jeter is overrated.

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 09:25 PM
You are telling me...I bought tickets for game 6 after the Pujols bomb, drove from NW Ohio to St. Louis, and then watched Oswalt just rape us.
Are you from St Louis Hamas???

Or just a Cards fan from Ohio??

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-03-2006, 09:25 PM
Jeter is a great, great player. He's like Joe Montana to A-Rod's Marino/Manning. Yeah, his stats aren't as good, but when it counts, it's hard to find a better player (outside of the deity known as Pujols).

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-03-2006, 09:27 PM
Are you from St Louis Hamas???

Or just a Cards fan from Ohio??

Originally from MO, I'm a temporary transplant to Ohio until I finish my Masters in May. After that, I'll probably come back closer to home for my Ph.D., most likely in Columbia. Puts me closer to home and w/in driving distance to the Chiefs games. (Currently selling my season tix 1 by 1 on ebay, although I will be able to go to the Denver, Seattle, and Jax games).

Bill Parcells
10-03-2006, 09:28 PM
He's hit in 92 of 116 postseason games..thats unreal

Frazod
10-03-2006, 09:29 PM
You are telling me...I bought tickets for game 6 after the Pujols bomb, drove from NW Ohio to St. Louis, and then watched Oswalt just rape us.

The Asstros are like the psycho killer from a teen slasher movie - no matter how many times they are beaten down, they just.... won't.... die. Berkman is THE DEVIL. :# There was nothing left in the tank for Boston after beating them back in '04. Then they got us for real last year, '97 Donx-style (by leapfrogging us they completely invalidated the division title), and damn near took it away this year.

I know it'll take a miracle for the Cards to make a dent in the playoffs this year, but at least Houston isn't there.

Miles
10-03-2006, 09:35 PM
I know it'll take a miracle for the Cards to make a dent in the playoffs this year, but at least Houston isn't there.

Im at least relieved that the Cards are not a footnote in MLB history as having an epic collapse.

They may have an actual shot at geting past SD with Edmunds and Eck back but this is still the weakest playoff team they have had in a long time. Weaver with his Farnsworth like mental makup needs to pull a good start out his ass.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-03-2006, 09:35 PM
The Asstros are like the psycho killer from a teen slasher movie - no matter how many times they are beaten down, they just.... won't.... die. Berkman is THE DEVIL. :# There was nothing left in the tank for Boston after beating them back in '04. Then they got us for real last year, '97 Donx-style (by leapfrogging us they completely invalidated the division title), and damn near took it away this year.

I know it'll take a miracle for the Cards to make a dent in the playoffs this year, but at least Houston isn't there.

No shit. I broke out a Simon Phoenix line last week regarding Houston, "I'll be goddamned! like a New York c*ckroach". You just can't kill those mf'er's. Of course, 2/3 of that is the stadium they play in, that place is a paradise for the banjo hitters that comprise their shit lineup.

Agreed about '04, although that Red Sox team was so f*cking hot, there just wasn't much we could have done w/o Carp regardless. We definitely had the feel (as did I, to an extent) of a team that was just "happy to be there". Pujols, Walker, and Renteria were the only people who showed up for that series.

Frazod
10-03-2006, 09:41 PM
No shit. I broke out a Simon Phoenix line last week regarding Houston, "I'll be goddamned! like a New York c*ckroach". You just can't kill those mf'er's. Of course, 2/3 of that is the stadium they play in, that place is a paradise for the banjo hitters that comprise their shit lineup.

Agreed about '04, although that Red Sox team was so f*cking hot, there just wasn't much we could have done w/o Carp regardless. We definitely had the feel (as did I, to an extent) of a team that was just "happy to be there". Pujols, Walker, and Renteria were the only people who showed up for that series.

Haren showed up, too. I still can't believe we dealt him for the stiff Mulder. :banghead: We've let far too many decent (or at least serviceable) pitchers go lately while keeping assclowns like Marquis. We could sure as hell use Williams, Morris, Kline and Tavarez right now.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-03-2006, 09:41 PM
Im at least relieved that the Cards are not a footnote in MLB history as having an epic collapse.

They may have an actual shot at geting past SD with Edmunds and Eck back but this is still the weakest playoff team they have had in a long time.

Here's the thing: The Cardinals have the best pitcher in the NL playoffs and the best regular player in all of baseball. That in and of itself counts for a lot. We also have more depth on the bench than we had last year, but we aren't as potent in the starting lineup. Preston Wilson/Duncan gives us a better option than the 30% of Walker we had last year. Getting Mulder out of the way for the playoffs isn't a bad thing, nor is getting rid of Izzy, but we don't really have much to replace them with. Reyes vs. Morris or Mulder is a wash in all reality and Weaver is a complete enigma. I think Wainwright could be Papelbon-esque in this role in the short term, he's the best arm we have in the pen, and has a pretty good head on his shoulders. Looper is the best setup man we've had since Reyes blew out his elbow last year but our Middle relief is a MF'ing disaster.

If Johnson pitches like he does today, our pen can actually work in a piece meal fashion.

The key to this team is Suppan. If he pitches like he has in the 2nd half, we have as good of a chance as any other team in the NL to make it out, especially given the Mets probs in their starting rotation.