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CanadaKC
10-17-2006, 10:19 PM
who's turning out to be a helluva player...what other college player did we try out (and who also wanted badly to play for the Chiefs)...then have Carl suprisingly just pass over on draft day? :banghead:

CoMoChief
10-17-2006, 10:21 PM
Didn't we look at Troy Polamalu when he came out?

Deberg_1990
10-17-2006, 10:23 PM
Too many to mention.....but i wonder what would have happened if we would have kept Gannon and Joe Horn togther??

ChiefsCountry
10-17-2006, 10:24 PM
Didn't we look at Troy Polamalu when he came out?

We drafted Larry Johnson instead.

CanadaKC
10-17-2006, 10:25 PM
Didn't we look at Troy Polamalu when he came out?


If we did...then I think I'm gonna :Lin:

CoMoChief
10-17-2006, 10:30 PM
Carl passed over everyone and decided to himself that he just didnt give a shit about the draft and drafted 6th or 7th round talent in the 2nd round in Junior Siavii.

I remember when we did that. I screamed and yelled at my TV because I had never heard of the ****ing guy. Then I looked up on some mock drafts and they had him going in the 6th or 7th round. 5th round would be pushing it.

Deberg_1990
10-17-2006, 10:31 PM
Picking Ryans Sims in 2002 over any of these guys:

Dwight Freeeny
Albert Haynsworth
Javon Walker
Ed Reed
Lito Sheppard

has to rank as one of our bigger ****ups.

el borracho
10-17-2006, 10:35 PM
John Henderson and Igor Olshansky were real possibilities that we could have drafted. Take a moment and think about that.

Rain Man
10-17-2006, 10:41 PM
Carl passed over everyone and decided to himself that he just didnt give a shit about the draft and drafted 6th or 7th round talent in the 2nd round in Junior Siavii.

I remember when we did that. I screamed and yelled at my TV because I had never heard of the ****ing guy. Then I looked up on some mock drafts and they had him going in the 6th or 7th round. 5th round would be pushing it.

Those mock drafts really had him overrated, didn't they?

Tribal Warfare
10-17-2006, 10:47 PM
The one player who got a raw deal, but was amped to have a big season before his injury was Slyvestor Morris

KevB
10-17-2006, 11:48 PM
Didn't we look at Troy Polamalu when he came out?

We switched picks with the Steelers...something like 16 to 27. The Steelers took Polamalu and we got LJ (as was stated). We traded out of our spot because there wasn't anyone on D who could help us. :banghead:

ChiefsCountry
10-17-2006, 11:53 PM
I can't believe you guys are pissed that we got LJ instead of Polamalu.

el borracho
10-18-2006, 12:24 AM
I can't believe you guys are pissed that we got LJ instead of Polamalu.
I'm not. I'm bummed that we got Sims and Siavii instead of Henderson and Olshansky.

Smed1065
10-18-2006, 12:32 AM
I agree but hind sight is easy in the NFL. IMO.

Rain Man
10-18-2006, 12:47 AM
That was a great run by Dockett on that interception return Monday night. It was too bad that his knee touched the ground; you don't often see a defensive lineman pop up from landing on a defender, keep running, and then do a 360 spin to avoid another tackler before scoring.

KevB
10-18-2006, 01:04 AM
I can't believe you guys are pissed that we got LJ instead of Polamalu.

Of course, I'm not. I'm more pissed at our talent evaluation on defense over the last, oh, 10 years. My point was that we decided there wasn't anyone on defense who could help us, when a safety who changes games was taken in the spot we traded out of.

chagrin
10-18-2006, 06:47 AM
I agree but hind sight is easy in the NFL. IMO.


sometimes a good point, but in this case like deberg said:

"Picking Ryans Sims in 2002 over any of these guys:

Dwight Freeeny
Albert Haynsworth
Javon Walker
Ed Reed
Lito Sheppard

has to rank as one of our bigger ****ups."

That was fuggin obvious AT the time.

Chiefnj
10-18-2006, 07:25 AM
We switched picks with the Steelers...something like 16 to 27. The Steelers took Polamalu and we got LJ (as was stated). We traded out of our spot because there wasn't anyone on D who could help us. :banghead:

It was the year after Woods made the Pro Bowl. Most fans weren't all that interested in a safety because Woods and Wesley had played well the year before. The Dl was the main concern.

Basileus777
10-18-2006, 07:32 AM
Taking Sims over Henderson pisses me off the most. Both in hindsight and at the time. I don't really care about Polamalu, he would probably suck if the Chiefs drafted him.

Messier
10-18-2006, 09:00 AM
I don't know. There would have been people ticked off if we had taken Henderson. Sims was widely considered to be the best DT prospect in the draft. As for the other defensive whiffs in the last five years or so, I blame Vermeil more than Carl. I'm sure some how Vermeil saw Siavii as a project he could mold into a star.

Cormac
10-18-2006, 09:13 AM
It was the year after Woods made the Pro Bowl. Most fans weren't all that interested in a safety because Woods and Wesley had played well the year before. The Dl was the main concern.

No kidding. If we had picked a safety in the first round that year, this place would have melted down forever. That was one of the best draft day moves I can remember, by any team. To trade down 12 spots and get (who should be) a HOF RB.

jspchief
10-18-2006, 09:47 AM
Rookie 5th rounder Mark Anderson who is tearing it up for the Bears right now got a lot of attention from the Chiefs at the Senior Bowl.

Mark Anderson or Marcus Maxey? Hmmmm....

ChiefsCountry
10-18-2006, 10:32 AM
Rookie 5th rounder Mark Anderson who is tearing it up for the Bears right now got a lot of attention from the Chiefs at the Senior Bowl.

Mark Anderson or Marcus Maxey? Hmmmm....

But after drafting Hali in the first round did we need another DE?

jspchief
10-18-2006, 11:25 AM
But after drafting Hali in the first round did we need another DE?Considering Marcus Maxey is no longer on the roster? Yes, I think Anderson would have been an okay pick.

I'll be honest, when I heard the Chiefs were looking at him, I thought he was a little undersized. And maybe his production is a byproduct of the guys he lines up next to. But the thread subject is guys we were interested in but passed on... Anderson fits the criteria.

As for having too many DEs, ask any Giants fan if they are sorry they took Kiwanuka when they already have Strahan and Umenyiora.

TrickyNicky
10-18-2006, 11:56 AM
That was a great run by Dockett on that interception return Monday night. It was too bad that his knee touched the ground; you don't often see a defensive lineman pop up from landing on a defender, keep running, and then do a 360 spin to avoid another tackler before scoring.
Yeah, I have no idea why they signed edge, they had Dockett the whole time. Sick moves.

KevB
10-18-2006, 12:14 PM
It was the year after Woods made the Pro Bowl. Most fans weren't all that interested in a safety because Woods and Wesley had played well the year before. The Dl was the main concern.

More proof that drafting based on need isn't a very good idea. Woods made the Pro Bowl, but that was because he fell into some interceptions that season. None of us believed either Woods or Wesley were the answer to improving a pathetic defense at that time. And yes, there would have been a meltdown of epic proportions had a safety been drafted in the 1st. Should that drive their decision making? I'm pretty sure a guy like Polamalu would have been well received by Chief faithful at this point.

I'm not arguing what should have happened, only that in this case (and more importantly many others), we haven't had the ability to identify bigtime players on defense.

Mecca
10-18-2006, 12:21 PM
They had also just given Woods and Wesley extentions......if we had drafted Polamalu he would have sit on the bench for 3 years because of Vermiels allegiance to his veterans.

Mr. Laz
10-18-2006, 12:52 PM
i know Eddie freeman and Darnell Dockett is no Eddie freeman. :$2500:

Mr. Laz
10-18-2006, 12:59 PM
2004 draft

2nd

1 33 Karlos Dansby Cardinals LB Auburn
2 34 Chris Snee Giants G Boston College
3 35 Igor Olshansky Chargers DT Oregon
4 36 Junior Siavii Chiefs DT Oregon
5 37 Teddy Lehman Lions LB Oklahoma
6 38 Ricardo Colclough Steelers DB Tusculum
7 39 Daryl Smith Jaguars LB Georgia Tech
8 40 Ben Troupe Titans TE Florida
9 41 Tatum Bell Broncos RB Oklahoma State
10 42 Travis LaBoy Titans DE Hawaii
11 43 Julius Jones Cowboys RB Notre Dame
12 44 Bob Sanders Colts DB Iowa
13 45 Jake Grove Raiders C Virginia Tech
14 46 Justin Smiley 49ers G Alabama
15 47 Terry Johnson Bears DT Washington
16 48 Dontarrious Thomas Vikings LB Auburn
17 49 Keiwan Ratliff Bengals DB Florida
18 50 Devery Henderson Saints WR Louisiana State
19 51 Dwan Edwards Ravens DT Oregon State
20 52 Jacob Rogers Cowboys T USC
21 53 Michael Boulware Seahawks LB Florida State
22 54 Darius Watts Broncos WR Marshall
23 55 Greg Jones Jaguars RB Florida State
24 56 Madieu Williams Bengals DB Maryland
25 57 Antwan Odom Titans DE Alabama
26 58 Shawntae Spencer 49ers DB Pittsburgh
27 59 Sean Jones Browns DB Georgia
28 60 Courtney Watson Saints LB Notre Dame
29 61 Kris Wilson Chiefs TE Pittsburgh
30 62 Keary Colbert Panthers WR USC
31 63 Marquise Hill Patriots DE Louisiana State

3rd

1 64 Darnell Dockett Cardinals DE Florida State
2 65 Nate Kaeding Chargers K Iowa
3 66 Nick Hardwick Chargers C Purdue
4 67 Stuart Schweigert Raiders DB Purdue
5 68 Ben Hartsock Colts TE Ohio State
6 69 Gilbert Gardner Colts LB Purdue
7 70 Joey Thomas Packers DB Montana State
8 71 Randy Starks Titans DT Maryland
9 72 Donnell Washington Packers DT Clemson
10 73 Keith Smith Lions DB McNeese State
11 74 Tim Anderson Bills DT Ohio State
12 75 Max Starks Steelers T Florida
13 76 Derrick Strait Jets DB Oklahoma
14 77 Derrick Hamilton 49ers WR Clemson
15 78 Bernard Berrian Bears WR Fresno State
16 79 Marquis Cooper Buccaneers LB Washington
17 80 Caleb Miller Bengals LB Arkansas
18 81 Chris Cooley Redskins TE Utah State
19 82 Devard Darling Ravens WR Washington State
20 83 Stephen Peterman Cowboys G Louisiana State
21 84 Sean Locklear Seahawks G North Carolina State
22 85 Jeremy LeSueur Broncos DB Michigan
23 86 Jorge Cordova Jaguars LB Nevada
24 87 B.J. Sander Packers P Ohio State
25 88 Darrion Scott Vikings DE Ohio State
26 89 Matt Ware Eagles DB UCLA
27 90 Matt Schaub Falcons QB Virginia
28 91 Tony Hargrove Rams DE Georgia Tech
29 92 Rich Gardner Titans DB Penn State
30 93 Keyaron Fox Chiefs LB Georgia Tech