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Arrowhead Pride
10-25-2006, 07:31 AM
Michael David Smith from <a href="http://nfl.aolsportsblog.com/2006/10/25/mvp-race-week-7-damon-huard-yes/">The Fanhouse</a> seems to think that isn't <i>that</i> crazy,<br>
<div class="blockquote">Damon Huard, quarterback, Chiefs: This is the shocker on the list. If, before the season, I had ranked all 1,500 or so NFL players in order of how likely they were to be on an MVP watch list, I'm not sure Huard would have made the top 750. But this guy is just playing incredible football right now. Seven touchdowns, one interception, a passer rating of 96.7. Maybe we shouldn't be shocked -- after all, Huard's only other stint as a starter was as a substitute for the injured Dan Marino in 1999, and he played well enough that a lot of Dolphins fans wanted to keep Marino on the sidelines. It's too bad it took so long for him to get another chance.</div>
As much of a Chiefs fan as I am, I have to say Huard probably won't make league MVP.
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Halfcan
10-25-2006, 07:44 AM
They already gave it to Peeton Manning for the next five years.

DaFace
10-25-2006, 09:56 AM
Pretty farfetched, but he's much higher up on the "possibility" list than anyone would have expected I guess.

jspchief
10-25-2006, 10:05 AM
Big surprise? Yes.
Nice story? Yes.

MVP? Hell no.

Our offense is ranked 24th in the league. He's playing well for a back-up, but a back-up playing like a mediocre starter is hardly worthy of MVP talk.

milkman
10-25-2006, 10:10 AM
Big surprise? Yes.
Nice story? Yes.

MVP? Hell no.

Our offense is ranked 24th in the league. He's playing well for a back-up, but a back-up playing like a mediocre starter is hardly worthy of MVP talk.

Don't tell GoFeisty and HooHooMeMe that he's playing like a mediocre starter.

noa
10-25-2006, 10:12 AM
Big surprise? Yes.
Nice story? Yes.

MVP? Hell no.

Our offense is ranked 24th in the league. He's playing well for a back-up, but a back-up playing like a mediocre starter is hardly worthy of MVP talk.


I agree that Huard isn't MVP material right now, but he's definitely playing better than mediocre. He's 5th in the league in QB rating, with only 1 INT. The fact that our offense is ranked 24th in the league is largely due to the fact that LJ had not been putting up good rushing numbers until last week.

DMAC
10-25-2006, 10:15 AM
He won't get MVP because Trent is coming back.

Rain Man
10-25-2006, 10:15 AM
It'll be hard for him to beat Colquitt, but he's in the top two.

jspchief
10-25-2006, 10:16 AM
I agree that Huard isn't MVP material right now, but he's definitely playing better than mediocre. He's 5th in the league in QB rating, with only 1 INT. The fact that our offense is ranked 24th in the league is largely due to the fact that LJ had not been putting up good rushing numbers until last week.Jake Plummer had a great QB rating last year too, but that doesn't make him a good QB. Huard has been protected with play-calling. Granted we gave him a lot more leash last week against the Chargers, but it's not like the guy has been slinging it all over the field the last 5 weeks. Before this past Sunday, about 80% of his passes were thrown inside 10 yards.

Kyle401
10-25-2006, 10:17 AM
I'd say that he is playing better than a mediocre starter. As others have noted, his QB rating is currently 5th in the league. If the MVP was actually awarded based on the "value" of the player's performance to the team, I would say he should have a shot (assuming he continues at his current pace). In reality, the MVP is awarded largely based on hype and publicity with a slight emphasis to the "value" of the player's performance. Translation: he has no shot even if he starts the rest of the season and the Chiefs end up 12-4.

noa
10-25-2006, 10:22 AM
Jake Plummer had a great QB rating last year too, but that doesn't make him a good QB. Huard has been protected with play-calling. Granted we gave him a lot more leash last week against the Chargers, but it's not like the guy has been slinging it all over the field the last 5 weeks. Before this past Sunday, about 80% of his passes were thrown inside 10 yards.


The argument isn't whether Damon Huard or Jake Plummer are good quarterbacks overall. Its about what they are doing in a given season. Remember, we are talking about the MVP award. Last year, Plummer had a great season statistically, so while he may not be a "good QB", he played like one last year until they got to the playoffs. Huard is doing that right now. Right now, Damon Huard is a good quarterback. I'm not saying that when he retires, people will reminisce over the greatness of Damon Huard. I'm just saying that right now, Damon Huard is a good QB, not mediocre.

Sure-Oz
10-25-2006, 10:25 AM
He would if he played the rest of the season and got us in the playoffs but with trent coming back no chance. he has played well though.

Inspector
10-25-2006, 10:25 AM
Don't tell GoFeisty and HooHooMeMe that he's playing like a mediocre starter.

Oh man...don't tell me she's going all Gannon over Huard.

We aint going through another Gannon / Grbac thing with her again. No way.

Arrowhead Pride
10-25-2006, 10:32 AM
Huard is doing what he needs to do- not screw up horribly.

jspchief
10-25-2006, 10:36 AM
The argument isn't whether Damon Huard or Jake Plummer are good quarterbacks overall. Its about what they are doing in a given season. Remember, we are talking about the MVP award. Last year, Plummer had a great season statistically, so while he may not be a "good QB", he played like one last year until they got to the playoffs. Huard is doing that right now. Right now, Damon Huard is a good quarterback. I'm not saying that when he retires, people will reminisce over the greatness of Damon Huard. I'm just saying that right now, Damon Huard is a good QB, not mediocre.I simply disagree. Effectively running an ineffective offense does not equal good in my book.

Is David Carr having an MVP season too?

JazzzLovr
10-25-2006, 10:40 AM
Oh man...don't tell me she's going all Gannon over Huard.

We aint going through another Gannon / Grbac thing with her again. No way.

A KCHuardStalker appearance might get entertaining tho. :D

noa
10-25-2006, 10:45 AM
I simply disagree. Effectively running an ineffective offense does not equal good in my book.

Is David Carr having an MVP season too?


If you look at my earlier post, I agreed with you that Huard is not an MVP candidate. I also said that the blame for the ineffective offense has as much to do with LJ's struggles and the OLine's struggles as Damon Huard. All I was taking issue with was you saying that Huard is having a mediocre season. In my book, if you have 7 TDs and 1 INT, are the 5th highest rated QB in the league, and have kept your team in the hunt, then you are playing better than mediocre. Would you say that Trent Dilfer had a meiocre season when he won the Super Bowl just because he didn't put up amazing stats? He did what the coaches asked of him and that was enough. Damon Huard is doing what we have asked of him.

jspchief
10-25-2006, 10:52 AM
If you look at my earlier post, I agreed with you that Huard is not an MVP candidate. I also said that the blame for the ineffective offense has as much to do with LJ's struggles and the OLine's struggles as Damon Huard. All I was taking issue with was you saying that Huard is having a mediocre season. In my book, if you have 7 TDs and 1 INT, are the 5th highest rated QB in the league, and have kept your team in the hunt, then you are playing better than mediocre. Would you say that Trent Dilfer had a meiocre season when he won the Super Bowl just because he didn't put up amazing stats? He did what the coaches asked of him and that was enough. Damon Huard is doing what we have asked of him.Difference of opinion I guess.

IMO part of LJ's struggles are directly related to the fact that defenses don't feel threatened by Huard or the leashed passing game he runs. The last two weeks I've seen 9 defenders in the box on a few occasions, and 8 men frequently. Teams don't do that against "good" QBs.

If you have to stifle the passing game for the QB to be effective, then the QB is less than good in my book. If our passing game continues to progress, I may change my mind, but at this point he's been good at what we've asked him to do, but we've haven't asked for very much.

Huard has played outstanding for a backup. But if you objectively looked at his play without the "Backup" qualifier, it's nothing more than middle of the pack.

And yes, I would describe Trent Dilfer as a mediocre QB. Why do you think the Ravens dumped him in favor of Elvis freaking Grbac? Plays well when the team around him plays well, but don't ever put the game on his shoulders.

Valiant
10-25-2006, 11:33 AM
The argument isn't whether Damon Huard or Jake Plummer are good quarterbacks overall. Its about what they are doing in a given season. Remember, we are talking about the MVP award. Last year, Plummer had a great season statistically, so while he may not be a "good QB", he played like one last year until they got to the playoffs. Huard is doing that right now. Right now, Damon Huard is a good quarterback. I'm not saying that when he retires, people will reminisce over the greatness of Damon Huard. I'm just saying that right now, Damon Huard is a good QB, not mediocre.


Sorry I cannot agree with that.. You cannot handicap/leesh a player with play calling and then have him be a mvp canidate...

noa
10-25-2006, 11:34 AM
Sorry I cannot agree with that.. You cannot handicap/leesh a player with play calling and then have him be a mvp canidate...


I wasn't saying he should be an MVP candidate. I was replying to an earlier post by JSPChief. If you read my earlier posts, you will see my opinion. I was disagreeing with JSPChief saying that Huard is playing mediocre ball this season.