View Full Version : The Jersey Decision
Baby Lee
10-25-2006, 03:30 PM
http://www.judiciary.state.nj.us/opinions/supreme/a-68-05.pdf
Haven't read it, just thought I'd spark another endless confab.
DenverChief
10-25-2006, 03:46 PM
:)
dirk digler
10-25-2006, 03:50 PM
I am not for gay-marriage but I definitely feel that civil unions is the right way to go.
New Jersey's Supreme Court opened the door to gay marriage Wednesday, ruling that homosexuals are entitled to the same rights as heterosexuals, but leaving it to lawmakers to legalize same-sex unions.
The high court gave lawmakers 180 days to rewrite marriage laws to either include same-sex couples or create a new system of civil unions for them.
The ruling is similar to the 1999 decision in Vermont that led to civil unions there, which offer the benefits of marriage, but not the name.
"Although we cannot find that a fundamental right to same-sex marriage exists in this state, the unequal dispensation of rights and benefits to committed same-sex partners can no longer be tolerated under our state Constitution," Justice Barry T. Albin wrote for the 4-3 majority's decision.
Outside the Supreme Court, news of the ruling caused confusion, with many of the roughly 100 gay marriage supporters outside asking each other what it meant. Many started to agree that they needed to push for a state constitutional amendment to institute gay marriage.
Garden State Equality, New Jersey's main gay and lesbian political organization quickly announced Wednesday that three lawmakers would introduce a bill in the Legislature to get full marriage rights to same-sex couples.
Gay couples in New Jersey can already apply for domestic partnerships under a law the Legislature passed in 2004 giving gay couples some benefits of marriage, such as the right to inherit possessions if there is no will and healthcare coverage for state workers.
Democratic Gov. Jon S. Corzine supports domestic partnerships, but not gay marriage.
Supporters pushing for full gay marriage have had a two-year losing streak in state courts including New York, Washington, and in both Nebraska and Georgia, where voter-approved bans on gay marriage were reinstated.
They also have suffered at the ballot boxes in 15 states where constitutions have been amended to ban same-sex unions.
Cases similar to the one ruled on Wednesday, which was filed by seven by gay New Jersey couples, are pending in California, Connecticut, Iowa and Maryland.
"New Jersey is a stepping stone," said Matt Daniels, president of the Virginia-based Alliance for Marriage, a group pushing for an amendment to the federal Constitution to outlaw same-sex marriage. "It's not about New Jersey."
DenverChief
10-25-2006, 03:53 PM
committed samesex couples must be afforded on equal terms the same rights and benefits enjoyed by opposite-sex couples under the
civil marriage statutes. The name to be given to the statutory scheme that provides full rights and benefits to samesex
couples, whether marriage or some other term, is a matter left to the democratic process.
its what I have been saying
i'll say it again .... the government is sticking their noses where it doesn't belong.
marriage is a religious entity .... all marriages.
the government shouldn't block/allow marriages for ANYONE ... they should all be civil unions.
everyone gets civil unions with the government
.... leave marriage ceremonies up to the churches.
CRONUS
10-25-2006, 04:01 PM
Oh good grief.
Marriage is a word, that is all it is, a simple f*cking word. A religious institution makes the process sanctified. If you use the word for a legal bond between two people gay or otherwise it will not give the bond religious sanctification.
Adept Havelock
10-25-2006, 04:49 PM
Good call, Laz. Leave "Marriage" what it is, a religious ceremony, Let the state deal with it as it would any other contract.
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