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|Zach|
11-02-2006, 11:38 PM
SAN DIEGO – Chargers star tight end Antonio Gates doesn't care much for Kellen Winslow's boasting, which could make Sunday's home game with the Cleveland Browns much more interesting.

On Wednesday, Winslow hyped his matchup with Gates as “a heavyweight match. It's me versus Gates. I want to be the best tight end out there.”

Winslow, whose 40 catches lead all tight ends, mentioned that Kansas City's Tony Gonzalez is behind him on the receptions list, followed by Gates.

“So I've got to stay on top,” said Winslow, whose Hall of Fame father of the same name played for the Chargers from 1979-87.

Winslow was asked to clarify. Did he mean keep his lead in receptions?

“The best overall. I'm trying to be the best. I said I was the best. I am the best, and I'm going to prove it on Sunday,” Winslow said.

Gates, who started in the last two Pro Bowls, wasn't amused.

“I just have a problem with a guy who disrespects guys who've done it over a decade like a Tony Gonzalez and those guys,” Gates said after practice Thursday. “To put yourself in a situation where you feel like you're better than a guy who has basically been doing it since you were in high school, I just have a problem with him not embracing the game enough and respecting the guys who've proven themselves in the league.”

Winslow is in his first full season. He broke his right leg in the second game of his rookie season of 2004, then missed all of last season after tearing up a knee in a motorcycle accident.

“For you to play in seven straight games and decide you're the best tight end in the league, I don't think that's appropriate to say,” said Gates, a former basketball star at Kent State who joined the Chargers as an undrafted rookie in 2003.

“There are certain things that I will never let get to me. Obviously he's not a person I would be worried about. He hasn't played long enough.”

Winslow has 40 receptions for 393 yards and three touchdowns. Gonzalez has 33 catches for 441 yards and a score, while Gates has 32 receptions, 384 yards and four touchdowns.

Gates' 89 catches last year tied Kellen Winslow's San Diego record for receptions by a tight end, and his 1,101 yards were the most for a Chargers tight end since Winslow had 1,172 in 1983. Gates led all tight ends last year in catches, yards and touchdowns (10).

In four seasons, Gates has 226 catches for 2,838 yards and 29 touchdowns.

ENDelt260
11-02-2006, 11:40 PM
Gives me a touch of respect for Gates.

DaFace
11-02-2006, 11:42 PM
Yep. Good to see he appreciates those who came before him.

On a side note, am I missing something in the 2nd-to-last paragraph? Are we talking about two Kellen Winslows, or did they get the name wrong?

Guru
11-02-2006, 11:43 PM
Gives me a touch of respect for Gates.
Yeah, me too. Gates can score all the TDs he wants this week....

As long as SD loses the game.

CHENZ A!
11-02-2006, 11:47 PM
He will get to see first hand when we go to CLE and beat their asses.

Sure-Oz
11-02-2006, 11:48 PM
Gates is a real good player, atleast he knows what Te's paved the way, Winslow's a punkass anyway, his mouth will just get him drilled, too bad Merriman wasn't playing this game so he could get drilled.

wazu
11-02-2006, 11:55 PM
On a side note, am I missing something in the 2nd-to-last paragraph? Are we talking about two Kellen Winslows, or did they get the name wrong?

They're talking about Kellen Winslow Sr, who played for the Chargers. (Widely considered the best tight end in NFL history prior to Gonzo and Sharpe.)

DaFace
11-03-2006, 12:01 AM
They're talking about Kellen Winslow Sr, who played for the Chargers. (Widely considered the best tight end in NFL history prior to Gonzo and Sharpe.)

Thanks for clearing that up. I'm not much of a history buff when it comes to the NFL, and I was a whopping 1 year old when those records were set! It seems weird they didn't clarify that, though.

Demonpenz
11-03-2006, 12:07 AM
Winslow doesn't get it. If you need shit like that to pump yourself up fine, keep it to yourself. You would think the motorcycle embarrassment and the SOLDIER clip would humble the boy. Someone needs to teach him how to be a grown up.

Halfcan
11-03-2006, 12:08 AM
I hope Gonzo has read this and gets angry like LJ.

Crashride
11-03-2006, 12:16 AM
LOL at winslow shelling out the disrespect to the players he probably studies and gets his moves from

Halfcan
11-03-2006, 12:20 AM
The Choosen one should be surpise tested for Roids-I bet he would fail.

Ari Chi3fs
11-03-2006, 12:27 AM
Jim Rome calls him Private Winslow. HILLarious.

Halfcan
11-03-2006, 01:02 AM
Jim Rome calls him Private Winslow. HILLarious.

I prefer Evil Kelneival due to his motor cycle jackassery.

greg63
11-03-2006, 01:47 AM
Yeah, me too. Gates can score all the TDs he wants this week....

As long as SD loses the game.

Yep!

the Talking Can
11-03-2006, 07:09 AM
Gates has his head on straight.

Fairplay
11-03-2006, 07:12 AM
So is David Boston still playing somewhere?

StcChief
11-03-2006, 07:15 AM
Talk is cheap. If he makes in NFL Ten years we will see where he is.

Bwana
11-03-2006, 07:22 AM
Winslow is nothing more than a punk thug. What has the guy done since he has been in the NFL other than run his pie hole.........................exactly.

kepp
11-03-2006, 07:33 AM
The Choosen one should be surpise tested for Roids-I bet he would fail.
He does have a lot of rage, it seems. I wouldn't be surprised.

jspchief
11-03-2006, 07:37 AM
As much as I hate Winslow, I do think he's going to be a very good TE. It's going to take a bit more than 6 or 7 games to start claiming "titles" though.

So what if he leads TEs in receptions? Like that's not purely a product of being the only offensive weapon on that entire Browns team...

dirk digler
11-03-2006, 08:05 AM
Winslow is a thug and I hope someone goes for his knees on Sunday and ruins his career.

Delano
11-03-2006, 08:11 AM
What a difference between Chad Johnson's good natured smack talking and Junior's annoying narcissism. What a friggen' clown.

Brock
11-03-2006, 08:13 AM
I'm sure Logical will be along soon to tell us how nobody outside of KC knows who Tony Gonzalez is.

Simplex3
11-03-2006, 08:40 AM
I guess we know what part of Sr.'s life slipped while he was busy in the NFL:

Parenting. Jr. is a real piece of work.

In light of Gates' respect for the game and its history, I wonder if he's having a problem with Steroidman's stunts?

'Hamas' Jenkins
11-03-2006, 08:51 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Gonzalez hold the record for receptions for a TE? I thought he had over 100 in 2004...

noa
11-03-2006, 08:57 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Gonzalez hold the record for receptions for a TE? I thought he had over 100 in 2004...


You are correct. The article is referring to the San Diego team record for TE receptions. TonyG has the NFL record for catches in a season by a TE.

boogblaster
11-03-2006, 09:02 AM
It isn't Gonzo's fault that Jr's QB can't throw any deeper than 15 yd slants.................

Simplex3
11-03-2006, 09:02 AM
Hehe. Jr. isn't even on pace to break his own father's team record, let alone TG's NFL single season record, and at the rate he's busting himself up he'll never touch Sharp's career record.

As a matter of fact, the "best TE in the league" has 8 more catches and one fewer TD than the guy he faces this week, who has to split TDs with one of the 2 best RBs in the game today. That other third place mutt has that same top 2 RB problem.

LMAO What a tool.

bsp4444
11-03-2006, 09:08 AM
Thanks for clearing that up. I'm not much of a history buff when it comes to the NFL, and I was a whopping 1 year old when those records were set! It seems weird they didn't clarify that, though.


“So I've got to stay on top,” said Winslow, whose Hall of Fame father of the same name played for the Chargers from 1979-87.

DaKCMan AP
11-03-2006, 09:12 AM
TEs better than Kellen Winslow:

Tony Gonzalez
Antonio Gates
Todd Heap
Jeremy Shockey
Alge Crumpler

What do all of the above have in common? Their teams have at least twice as many wins as Winslow's.

Kyle401
11-03-2006, 09:25 AM
Although I don't really like KWII, he may very well be the third best recieving TE in the league behind TG and Gates. The guy is the real deal even if he is a headcase.

chiefsfan1963
11-03-2006, 09:41 AM
I hope we renew TG's contract and have him retire a Chief!

Bob Dole
11-03-2006, 10:11 AM
3 seasons, 45 receptions.

What a bargain.

TEX
11-03-2006, 02:33 PM
I hope we renew TG's contract and have him retire a Chief!


Yep. That does need to happen.

Kerberos
11-03-2006, 02:54 PM
Winslow doesn't get it. If you need shit like that to pump yourself up fine, keep it to yourself. You would think the motorcycle embarrassment and the SOLDIER clip would humble the boy. Someone needs to teach him how to be a grown up.


WTF is the SOLDIER clip?


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Brock
11-03-2006, 03:07 PM
WTF is the SOLDIER clip?


.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3X60mrYO1UU

Kerberos
11-03-2006, 04:02 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3X60mrYO1UU

Great .... School District I work for blocked "youtube" at the firewall cause high school kids were "Watching Video That Had No Educational Value" as the teacher put it! :whackit:

I guess I'll watch it when I get home.

.

buddha
11-03-2006, 05:18 PM
On the NFL Network today, KWII said that he is already better than his dad was. It's one thing to disrespect Gonzo and Gates, but to diss his own dad, who was arguably the greatest TE of all time, is pretty sad. I'm still starting the mouthy punk this week on my fantasy team! Time to put up or shut up, Jr.!!!

L.A. Chieffan
11-03-2006, 05:26 PM
this guy obviously is the T.O. of the TEs in the NFL IMO. (does that excede the maximum number of abbreviations per sentence?)

buddha
11-03-2006, 05:28 PM
TEs better than Kellen Winslow:

Tony Gonzalez
Antonio Gates
Todd Heap
Jeremy Shockey
Alge Crumpler

What do all of the above have in common? Their teams have at least twice as many wins as Winslow's.

I think it depends on your definition. If you're saying "better" over their career, you are correct on all counts. If you are saying "better" on any given Sunday this season, I think you're stretching.

Winslow, for all of his bad press, is a very good pass receiving TE.

As for your comments about his team...I'm not buying it. All of the other TEs you mentioned play for better, more talented teams. That isn't KWII's fault.

grandllama
11-03-2006, 06:08 PM
I'm sure Logical will be along soon to tell us how nobody outside of KC knows who Tony Gonzalez is.

The NFL Network (rightly or wrongly) is doing everything in their power to correct that issue.