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hypersensitiveZO6
11-03-2006, 04:33 PM
There's been some talk about this, and I wondered what people think about it.

Are you a true fan if you pick your team to lose a game?

Douche Baggins
11-03-2006, 04:35 PM
There are certain situations where you might WANT your team to lose. So yes, you can still be a true fan.

ChiefsfaninPA
11-03-2006, 04:37 PM
While deep down inside I might not like our chances I will never admit this to anyone else. I will always say we are going to win.

KCChiefsMan
11-03-2006, 04:41 PM
you gotta keep hope alive! no way!

keg in kc
11-03-2006, 04:41 PM
If I think there's a better chance they lose than win, then I'll say that. It doesn't have anything to do with being or not being a fan; it's just the way I see the game. .

Earlier in the week, I thought we'd lose Sunday. Now my gut feeling is that the defense plays well, Bulger blows up, and we win a shocker on the road. I think he's due and I think we're due (on the road).

Crashride
11-03-2006, 04:52 PM
While deep down inside I might not like our chances I will never admit this to anyone else. I will always say we are going to win.

Bwana
11-03-2006, 04:54 PM
True Fan :shake: I love that ****ing term. What the **** exactly is a "TRUE FAN?"

bogie
11-03-2006, 04:59 PM
There are certain situations where you might WANT your team to lose. So yes, you can still be a true fan.

What situation would you want your team to lose?

hypersensitiveZO6
11-03-2006, 05:00 PM
What situation would you want your team to lose?

the only time I could see if you already made the playoffs and just wanted a different first round opponent.

Basileus777
11-03-2006, 05:03 PM
Of course you are a true fan if you pick your team to lose. I pick with my head not with my emotions, it doesn't make you any less of a fan to be realistic.

bogie
11-03-2006, 05:03 PM
the only time I could see if you already made the playoffs and just wanted a different first round a opponent.

Okay, I agree with this.

hypersensitiveZO6
11-03-2006, 05:04 PM
Okay, I agree with this.

:D

bogie
11-03-2006, 05:05 PM
Of course you are a true fan if you pick your team to lose. I pick with my head not with my emotions, it doesn't make you any less of a fan to be realistic.

Never, ever bet against your team if you're a true fan. JMO

kcfanintitanhell
11-03-2006, 05:06 PM
What situation would you want your team to lose?

I never want them to lose, but if I put money on the spread it takes a bit of the sting out of a loss, and if they win and I lose the wager, I couldn't care less about losing 50 bucks.

CupidStunt
11-03-2006, 05:06 PM
Thick and thin. That's a true fan - bottom line.

The statement in the poll is ludicrous. I pick against the Chiefs, as do many other Chiefs fans, but it doesn't mean that I am NOT supporting them.

The two CAN be (and, for me, are) mutually exclusive.

StcChief
11-03-2006, 05:06 PM
True and Real fan

bogie
11-03-2006, 05:09 PM
I never want them to lose, but if I put money on the spread it takes a bit of the sting out of a loss, and if they win and I lose the wager, I couldn't care less about losing 50 bucks.

You're built different than me. I don't care what the spread is, if can't bet for the Chiefs to win, I don't bet on the game. Honestly, IMO, if you're betting against the Chiefs, you want them to lose.

keg in kc
11-03-2006, 05:13 PM
You shouldn't be betting on your own team anyway. Especially if you don't have the ability to take your heart out of the equation and look at games objectively.

And you can certainly bet against your team and expect them to win, depending on the spread...

bogie
11-03-2006, 05:17 PM
I often surprised at how quickly these kind of threads die. I don't gamble for a living, but I bet on a regular basis. If I was making a living as a gambler I can (almost) understand the decision to bet against the Chiefs. Since I gamble for pleasure, I can't imagine betting against the Chiefs. It makes no sense to me.

bogie
11-03-2006, 05:21 PM
You shouldn't be betting on your own team anyway. Especially if you don't have the ability to take your heart out of the equation and look at games objectively.

And you can certainly bet against your team and expect them to win, depending on the spread...

Okay, this works for me, betting against the spread as long as you're still hoping for a win. Trust me, I have seen numerous times that I know betting against the Chiefs would probably pay off, but I don't make those bets because Chiefs need wins.

UteChief
11-03-2006, 05:26 PM
I am not a true fan because I don't have season tickets.

hypersensitiveZO6
11-03-2006, 05:33 PM
It just seems to me that if you pick your team to lose, you don't have any confidence in them.

Games tied 24 - 24. 1:30 Left in 4th Q Chief ball on 50 yard line

It has to be horrible thinking, "Man, we're gonna lose this game."

Sure-Oz
11-03-2006, 05:43 PM
a true fan will kick the shit out of any opposing teams fans after a loss as their wife watches in horror, also they'll rile 19 of their fellow fans to help beat his ass!

CupidStunt
11-03-2006, 05:45 PM
It just seems to me that if you pick your team to lose, you don't have any confidence in them.


But that doesn't mean you're not a true fan.

The Chiefs haven't done everything they need to in order to give fans the confidence they should have in KC's ability to win on the road.

But we should have it just because they're the Chiefs? I don't think so...

keg in kc
11-03-2006, 06:34 PM
It just seems to me that if you pick your team to lose, you don't have any confidence in them.

Games tied 24 - 24. 1:30 Left in 4th Q Chief ball on 50 yard line

It has to be horrible thinking, "Man, we're gonna lose this game."Try "1:30 left in the 4th Q Opponent's ball on the 50 yard line" and you've got the last 9 years.

You must've been really, really, really drunk if you weren't a little antsy anytime our defense was on the field late in a game, with the other team within a score of tying or winning.

keg in kc
11-03-2006, 06:37 PM
And a true fan isn't one who always picks them to win. That's a homer.

A true fan is someone who can pick them to lose and then watch the whole damned game anyway, whichever way it goes. A true fan is someone who keeps watching when the season's down the drain, whether it's week 7 or week 17. Because the Chiefs are his or her team, win or lose. A true fan is a glutton for punishment, I guess, willing to wait years and years for that one moment in the sun. Without anything but hope (or faith in some cases?) to keep them going, because there's no guarantee it'll ever happen.

runnercyclist
11-03-2006, 06:45 PM
Never, ever bet against your team if you're a true fan. JMO

I am a true fan. I bleed KC Chief red. I will always be a Chiefs fan no matter what.

I bet against the Chiefs once this year. VS Pittsburgh. I think it was a good bet and I thought (correctly) we would be blown out. I now have two farms instead of one.

Bearcat
11-03-2006, 06:48 PM
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firm in allegiance; loyal; faithful; steadfast: a true friend.


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Tending to or expressing an awareness of things as they really are: She gave us a realistic appraisal of our chances.

bogie
11-03-2006, 07:13 PM
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firm in allegiance; loyal; faithful; steadfast: a true friend.


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Tending to or expressing an awareness of things as they really are: She gave us a realistic appraisal of our chances.

Alright. True vs. realistic. I am not necessarlily realistic, but I'm true. I'll never bet against the Chiefs. I'll find another bet.

DenverDanChiefsFan
11-03-2006, 07:17 PM
Thick and thin. That's a true fan - bottom line.

The statement in the poll is ludicrous. I pick against the Chiefs, as do many other Chiefs fans, but it doesn't mean that I am NOT supporting them.

The two CAN be (and, for me, are) mutually exclusive.Can't believe it - but I agree with you.

boogblaster
11-03-2006, 08:32 PM
you is or you isn't im a is .......

Halfcan
11-03-2006, 09:04 PM
Hmmm I wonder who started all of this picking against your own team stuff...... but I have to say I agree. If you pick against the Chiefs for any reason-you are not a Real fan and should burn all of your KC stuff and start supporting the Faders-lol

Cntrygal
11-03-2006, 09:12 PM
I may be obsessed, but I'm not delusional.

cdcox
11-03-2006, 09:33 PM
What situation would you want your team to lose?

If Green starts over Huard. /GoChiefs

craneref
11-03-2006, 09:40 PM
I will not call into question anyone else and their fan hood, but as for me I NEVER pick against the CHIEFS. That would be right up there with picking against your own childs little league team, it is just something you DO NOT do. I sure hope none of the CHIEFS players think the way some who have posted though, you know, just because I don't think we will win doesn't mean I am not a loyal player, I want them to ALWAYS believe they have a chance to win. GO CHIEFS.

Halfcan
11-03-2006, 09:57 PM
A TRUE Fan

You pay the parking but bitch about it.

You pay the $ for the tickets but bitch about it.

When they win-you complain they could have done better.

When they lose you swear that you are done with them forever.

You only throw beer on the opposing fans that deserve it.

If your team really gets killed-you get 19 of your redneck friends and beat up some dude in front of his prego wife.

You don't leave early-even during floods-Chuck Norris would not leave early.

You don't sit down on Defense-especially not on 3rd down.

You don't sell your season tickets to fans of the opposing team-take a loss instead of letting some jackass sit there.

AND
You never pick against them-EVER!