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noa
11-16-2006, 11:59 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/16/congress.leaders.ap/index.html

Hoyer tapped for party's No. 2 House spot

WASHINGTON (AP) -- House Democrats on Thursday chose Maryland Rep. Steny Hoyer to be House majority leader over Rep. John Murtha, brushing aside the choice of House Speaker-elect Nancy Pelosi.

Hoyer was elected on a vote of 149-86 not long after the Democratic caucus put Pelosi in line to become the first woman to be speaker, a position which is second in line of succession to the presidency.

The balloting marked a personal triumph for Hoyer, and it came just a short time after the party's rank and file selected Pelosi unanimously to become speaker when the House convenes in January.

"We made history and now we will make progress for the American people," she told the party caucus moments after her selection.

The Californian vowed that after 12 years in the minority, "we will not be dazzled by money and special interests." Pelosi also called for unity in the party, but within moments she put her prestige on the line by nominating Murtha for majority leader.

Murtha is a powerful lawmaker on defense matters, and he gained national prominence last year when he called for an end to U.S. military involvement in Iraq.

He and Pelosi have long been close, and when Pelosi issued a statement supporting Murtha on Sunday night, it raised the stakes in a leadership election within a party that is taking control of the House in January for the first time in a dozen years.

Pelosi and Hoyer have long had a difficult relationship. The two ran against each other in a leadership race several years ago. Pelosi won, but Hoyer rebounded more than a year later when he was elected the party's whip.

Hoyer, 67, is a 25-year veteran of Congress.

His margin of victory reflected a pre-election strategy in which he showcased support from moderates, veteran lawmakers in line to become committee chairmen and more than half of the incoming freshman class -- the majority-makers whose victories on Election Day gave the party control of the House.

The intraparty battle had preoccupied Democrats, overshadowing Pelosi's promotion to speaker -- a position that is second in line of succession to the presidency.

Many Democrats were dismayed that the family feud had broken out in the first place and objected to heavy pressure placed on longstanding Hoyer supporters.

Pelosi officially becomes speaker in January, succeeding Rep. Dennis Hastert, R-Illinois, when the House convenes and formally elects her in the next session of Congress.

Pelosi's selection was more history than mystery; that was reserved for the Hoyer-Murtha faceoff.

Murtha, 74, was a problematic candidate because of his penchant for trading votes for pork projects and his ties to the Abscam bribery sting in 1980, the only lawmaker involved who wasn't charged. (Watch an FBI agent prepare to try to bribe Murtha -- 2:20Video)

The race dredged up Murtha's involvement in the Abscam scandal. FBI agents pretending to represent an Arab sheik wanting to reside in the United States and seeking investment opportunities offered bribes to several lawmakers. When offered $50,000, Murtha was recorded as saying, "I'm not interested ... at this point." A grand jury declined to indict Murtha, and the House ethics committee issued no findings against him.

"I told them I wanted investment in my district," Murtha told MSNBC's "Hardball" on Wednesday. "They put $50,000 on the table and I said, 'I'm not interested.' "

Democrats also selected James Clyburn of South Carolina as majority whip, their No. 3 post. Clyburn, who is black, would become the highest-ever ranking member of his race in Congress. Campaign chair Rahm Emanuel of Illinois was rewarded with the caucus chair post, the No. 4 position for Democrats, for his efforts in leading the party back into the majority.

Meanwhile, House Republicans, soon to be in the minority for the first time since 1994, met in private Thursday to hear presentations from candidates for their leadership posts. Their election was scheduled for Friday.

Finding a replacement for Hastert as the caucus leader turned into a two-man race between Majority Leader John Boehner of Ohio and conservative challenger Rep. Mike Pence of Indiana after Rep. Joe Barton of Texas dropped out and endorsed Boehner.

In the Democratic race, Murtha came forward for the job despite a record of not always being a leadership loyalist. He often supplied votes to GOP leaders who were struggling to pass bills. The none-too-subtle trade-off: Murtha and his allies would do better when home-state projects were doled out by the Republicans.

Murtha also had been criticized by ethics watchdogs such as Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, who have said he exemplifies a "pay-to-play" culture of Washington.

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Mr. Kotter
11-16-2006, 12:14 PM
Peolosi the puppet, eh? Heh.

patteeu
11-16-2006, 12:15 PM
It was hard for me to decide who to root for here. On the one hand, John Murtha isn't very charismatic and he's vulnerable to charges of being corrupt and pro-retreat, but on the other, the rivalry between Pelosi and Hoyer may cause dissension within the dem ranks which is positive from my pov.

Do you think this was the best result?

noa
11-16-2006, 12:18 PM
I think it was the best result because it adds a little balance to the Dems leadership. If I'm not mistaken, Steny isn't a Blue Dog Democrat but he's close with a lot of members who are, and that's good because the Dem leadership needs a good connection to their more moderate members.

patteeu
11-16-2006, 12:36 PM
I think it was the best result because it adds a little balance to the Dems leadership. If I'm not mistaken, Steny isn't a Blue Dog Democrat but he's close with a lot of members who are, and that's good because the Dem leadership needs a good connection to their more moderate members.

I think you're probably right that this is the better result for the dems.

Mr. Kotter
11-16-2006, 12:38 PM
I think it was the best result because it adds a little balance to the Dems leadership. If I'm not mistaken, Steny isn't a Blue Dog Democrat but he's close with a lot of members who are, and that's good because the Dem leadership needs a good connection to their more moderate members.

Very good point. Agreed.

Chief Faithful
11-16-2006, 12:45 PM
I think it was the best result because it adds a little balance to the Dems leadership. If I'm not mistaken, Steny isn't a Blue Dog Democrat but he's close with a lot of members who are, and that's good because the Dem leadership needs a good connection to their more moderate members.

Better results for the Dems and America.

banyon
11-16-2006, 01:13 PM
I didn't really want Murtha, but I don't know a whole lot about this guy.

memyselfI
11-16-2006, 01:28 PM
I'm glad it happened this way. When starting off your tenure as the party of change it's not prudent to install people with questionable ethics in high power positions... :rolleyes:

tiptap
11-16-2006, 04:48 PM
Did you want to have talking points about change in Iraq. Then you run Murtha, you even actively support him knowing all the while that he can't overcome the personal relationship that Hoyer has with so many of the Democratic Members of the House. Murtha never was that kind of leader. He is a rougish type of player but if you want to keep the talking point about Iraq, you run the biggest critic and then let him retreat to CHAIRMAN OF MILITARY OVERSIGHT.

Despite the wish of the Republican talking heads to see this as a sign of weakness for Pelosi, (the governoring style is more authoritative or imperial) the democrats are just that; democratic. There is always way more haggling and they'll even let the Republicans play. The result though is that the President is not really in the news and focus is on learning the new players in the House.

StcChief
11-17-2006, 10:12 AM
Hoyer was elected on a vote of 149-86 not long after the Democratic caucus put Pelosi in line to become the first woman to be speaker, a position which is second in line of succession to the presidency.


Thank GOD for that.