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milkman
01-17-2001, 07:46 AM
I wasn't happy to lose draft picks to hire Vermeil. I sure as hell don't want to give up more to get Saunders as OC. But I'm betting the Rams, if they do give the Chiefs permission to hire Saunders, it will come at a price.

KC Jones
01-17-2001, 07:48 AM
Maybe some old socks and practice jerseys

Mark M
01-17-2001, 07:54 AM
Give them Bennett, Gray, Williams, Chet, Patton and Bush, as well as our 7th round pick (if we even have one).

:bigsmirk:

Otherwise, no. We've sacrificed too much already. But I'm not sure what OC's are available and/or capable. Anyone?

MM
~~Clueless on this one (not the first, not the last).

ROYC75
01-17-2001, 08:07 AM
Well let see...there is Chris Palmer,good choice if you can keep him opened up and not get to conservative.

You got Les Steckle....had a good year at Ten. a couple of yrs ago! Not my choice!

Other than that,I'm lost on this one...JR is not available anymore.(hehehe).

58Forever
01-17-2001, 08:08 AM
I think Saunders would be worth something...what, I don't know, maybe a very late round pick...he is the next coach of the Chiefs...it might be nice if he's able to get in on the ground floor...it's been said that Vermeil wants Saunders so he can groom him to become head coach after DV retires...I'd like to see Saunders here from day one...so I say, yes we should give up something, just not too much...

However, the Rams will try to shaft all they can....****ers.....

NaptownChief
01-17-2001, 08:13 AM
If we throw away anymore draft picks on coaches I am liable to pull a McVeigh on CP's office.

milkman
01-17-2001, 08:17 AM
Joe,
Doesn't it bother you that the only mention of Saunders as an OC candidate in the years since he was fired as SD HC is only in KC, and that Raye was selected ahead of him the last time he was considered for the position. Or that he hasn't received any serious consideration as a HC prospect since his SD days.
A guy like that is not worth any pick, IMO.

milkman
01-17-2001, 08:20 AM
jl,
I'll provide you with an alibi!
{in my best Jon Lovitz} He was in California with me, yeah, that's it!

gonzo88
01-17-2001, 08:46 AM
NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

NaptownChief
01-17-2001, 08:52 AM
Thanks Milk

58Forever
01-17-2001, 09:20 AM
Milk Man, no it doesn't...because the last coaching staff here was all about friendship...I think Saunders is a good coach and will be here one way or the other...now, I'm not saying we should start giving up first round picks, but...if he's going to be our next HC, he should start the learning process now...

DaWolf
01-17-2001, 10:09 AM
I think at worst we'd have to swap 7th rounders. I don't see us giving up anything for him...

ChiTown
01-17-2001, 10:32 AM
Enough with the blood letting already!

No more picks. Period.

If we can't interview Saunders without giving the Rams compensation, then you go out and find the next best thing. This whole 2nd and 3rd for DV, plus having Greg Robinson as a DC, not to mention a UCLA reunion on the Coaching staff has my stomache in knots already.

ChiTown
~Thought are troubles would be over once the stooges left town

kcred
01-17-2001, 01:25 PM
If the last coaching staff was all about friendship, what the hell is this one about?

58Forever
01-17-2001, 01:30 PM
familiarity...DV said the hiring of Robinson was because he knew the division...I don't know, are they friends...but what I meant with the friendship comment was that Gun just kept his loyalties to his friends, that's why he didn't go after new coaches and that's why he probably wouldn't have had he stayed...

DaWolf
01-17-2001, 02:19 PM
According to Vermiel, he's trying to assemble people who will bring enthusiasm and comraderie to the table along with good coaching. Saunders fits that mold too. He wants to try and make this a tightly knit unit. I don't think Robinson is a close friend...

Alton deFlat
01-17-2001, 02:43 PM
I really don't know why we'd have to give them anything. OK, he's receivers coach at St. Louis. Offensive coordinator with the Chiefs is a promotion for him. The Rams say he is also their assistant head coach, so we owe them compensation. Is that right? Why don't we make him offensive coordinator and assistant head coach. That sounds like what the plans for the future are anyway. Wouldn't that negate any reason to compensate the Lambs?!?!?

milkman
01-17-2001, 02:54 PM
Even though bringing in Saunders as Asst HC and OC would essentially be a promotion, the Rams have to give permission to the Chiefs to even talk to him. This is where the compensation comes in. The Rams will not allow the Chiefs to talk to Saunders without a price. The Chiefs, with Vermeil's hire, created a chasm that will cost the Chiefs at least another draft pick for them to bridge.

milkman
01-17-2001, 03:01 PM
Even though bringing in Saunders as Asst HC and OC would essentially be a promotion, the Rams have to give permission to the Chiefs to even talk to him. This is where the compensation comes in. The Rams will not allow the Chiefs to talk to Saunders without a price. The Chiefs, with Vermeil's hire, created a chasm that will cost the Chiefs at least another draft pick for them to bridge.

Iowanian
01-17-2001, 03:21 PM
The Rams have gotten plenty...That greedy hen owner is just being a biatch!!!!!!

I wouldn't want to see a dirty Ho give them a case of crabs for Saunders(not that i don't want him)

p!$$ on the

Rams <img src=http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/s/cwm2/piss.gif>

DaWolf
01-17-2001, 03:24 PM
I don't think so. I see this similar to the Ray Rhodes thing. Marty wanted a draft pick but apparently the league told him that wasn't going to happen, so he said OK Ray, you want Denver, see ya. And that was a lateral move.

Al Saunders wants to be here. The job will be a promotion. The Rams IMO will not in the end stand in the way of the guy advancing his career, otherwise they will probably have a very unhappy coach in their ranks. I think they are just, like Martz said, letting the "dust settle" and we will be able to hire Martz by next week at the latest, with the max compensation being a swap of lower round draft picks.

IMO...

58Forever
01-17-2001, 03:29 PM
I could live with a swap of a lower round pick...it would mean instead of picking 12th in round 7 we pick 20th or some ****...that would be okay because by the 6 or 7 round any pick you make is a gamble...the Rams are just being arses because we basically got what we wanted when we got
Vermeil...Georgia if you're going to play with the boys...get ready to get kicked in the balls... :D

G_Man
01-17-2001, 03:41 PM
I'm willing. I don't see any chance of it being a high rounder, especially after what happened with Rhodes.

BTW, Saunders was considered for the Houston HC job. Not many HCing offers go to a WRs coach, experience or not. And besides his two years with the Rams, why would anyone be actively seeking him out. We barely used WRs when he was here in KC, so his talents couldn't be showcased.

DaWolf
01-17-2001, 03:48 PM
Apparently he had a big part in the development of Bruce, Holt and the Gang into the lethal group they are now. I've got a couple of articles bookmarked at home from last year when Rams players and coaches were singing his praises. True he didn't have much over here, IE Lake Dawson, Birden and Willie Davis, Sean LaChapelle for goodness sakes. But hey, he actually got Rison to play at a high level his first year here.

As far as experience, remember the guy was a head coach in San Diego before...

Logical
01-17-2001, 09:01 PM
Folks,

I have seen lots of negative comments about Saunders HC period here in San Diego. The talent on the Chargers when he came aboard was easily much worse than on today's Chargers. The GM was a joke and they could not obtain talent to save them. So in summary, he was probably not ready yet, he did not have the talent to support him, and the GM was a joke and gave up on him instead of fixing the problem (players). I am not saying he will be a great HC someday for the Chiefs, but to doubt him based on the SD results is totally wrong. Remember Shanarat failed miserably his first time out as have many other excellent HC around the league.

Oh, on compensation to get him here, I am against that unequivocally.

[Edited by Logical on 01-17-2001 at 10:04 PM]