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Snapper
01-18-2001, 10:56 AM
NFL Mock Draft 2000

Frank Coyle - Draft Insiders Digest http://www.draftinsiders.com 1-800-776-1949
JAN. 11
MOCK FIRST ROUND
1. SAN DIEGO CHARGERS - QB - MICHAEL VICK - VIRGINIA TECH
Vick surprisingly declared for the draft and will be the first player chosen whether the Chargers retain it or trade it to the highest bidder. With new GM John Butler at the helm, he will most likely retain Vick and look to trade young QB Ryan Leaf to the highest bidder. Vick will sign a $60 million dollar plus contract as the top player chosen.
2. ARIZONA CARDINALS - DE - JAMAL REYNOLDS - FLORIDA ST.
Cardinals have major needs along their front four that will be addressed early and often in April. Reynolds has the quickness off the edge to replace the possible loss of free agent DE Simeon Rice.
3. CLEVELAND BROWNS - WR - DAVID TERRELL - MICHIGAN
Browns have to get QB Tim Couch some help and Terrell would be a terrific addition opposite wideout Kevin Johnson. Terrell' ability to make plays would accelerate Couch's development greatly.
4. CINCINNATI BENGALS - S - DERRICK GIBSON - FLORIDA ST.
Bengals need everything but will focus on their secondary and defensive front line. Gibson is one of the premier athletes in this draft class.
5. ATLANTA FALCONS - RB - DEUCE McALLISTER - MISSISSIPPI
Falcons offense fell apart in 2000 and they have major needs at every skilled position. McAllister will be the first back chosen in April.
6. NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS - OT - LEONARD DAVIS - TEXAS
Pats front wall has the chief culprit in their poor offensive showing in 2000. Davis is a well developed prospect with the talent and savvy to start next fall.
7. SEATTLE (DALLAS COWBOYS) - WR - KOREN ROBINSON - N.C. ST.
Seahawks missed the big play ability of Joey Galloway last fall and look to address that area early in the draft.
8. CHICAGO BEARS - CB- JAMAR FLETCHER - WISCONSIN
Bears continue to build a young defense and will consider this quick cover man who has graded out high consistently over his career.
9. SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS - DE - ANDRE CARTER - CALIFORNIA
49ers looking for a pass rusher off the edge and Carter has the tools to become a fine NFL defender.
10. SEATTLE SEAHAWKS - DT - RICHARD SEYMOUR - GEORIGA
Seahawks have many needs from QB, wide receiver to their front four. Seymour has the athleticism to become a top pro and would be a nice fit on the inside here.
11. CAROLINA PANTHERS - RB - LaDAINIAN TOMLINSON - TEXAS CHRISTIAN
Panthers offense fell apart this past season with continuous injuries at the skilled positions. Tomlinson would push the injury prone Tim Biakabutuka for the starting job in camp.
12. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS - DT - GERALD WARREN - FLORIDA
The Dick Vermeil era begins with a focus on defense where the Chiefs failed miserably in 2000. Warren has the talent to become a dominant inside tackle.
13. JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS - OG- STEVE HUTCHINSON - MICHIGAN
Jaguars suffered many injuries along their offensive line which may be been the key factor in their decline in 2000. Hutchinson has the talent to start immediately in the NFL.
14. BUFFALO BILLS - LB - DAN MORGAN - MIAMI
Bills will focus on their offensive line, linebacker and secondary this spring. Morgan is a savvy defender with the ability to start as a rookie after playing both inside and outside in college. He would be too good to pass on here and would be an excellent addition to the Bills talented LBing unit.
15. WASHINGTON REDSKINS - WR - FREDDIE MITCHELL - UCLA
Skins lacked big play ability on the outside this season and Mitchell has the speed and running skills to get into the endzone.
16. PITTSBURGH STEELERS - QB - DREW BREES - PURDUE
Cowher will not pass on a QB of this caliber this spring. Brees is the highest rated senior passer with the talent to eventually start.
17. GREEN BAY PACKERS - WR - RONNEY DANIELS - AUBURN
Favre needs a playmaker and Daniels has the tools to make things happen when he gets his hands on the ball. Daniels has the size, speed and running skills to be an immediate factor in their passing game.
18. DETROIT LIONS - CB - GARY BAXTER - BAYLOR
Lions focus on corners with the possible move of veteran CB Bryant Westbrook to safety after he suffered an achilles heel injury in 2000.
19. NEW YORK JETS - WR - QUINCY MORGAN - KANSAS ST.
Jets need to add another playmaker on the outside that has been missing since Keyshawn Johnson was traded last spring. Morgan came up big in critical situations in 2000.
20. ST. LOUIS RAMS - CB - NATE CLEMENTS - OHIO ST.
Rams have to address their defense early and often in April with most likely their weak front four and secondary their most critical area. Clements is a big cover man with the ability to match up well in man coverge.
21. TAMPA BAY BUCS - OT - KENYATTA WRIGHT - FLORIDA
Bucs looking to improve their front wall on offense with a top tackle prospect and Wright will get strong consideration here. He has the talent to start early as a pro.
22. INDIANAPOLIS COLTS - DT - MARCUS STROUD - GEORGIA
Colts need a big body tackle and Stroud would be a fine addition to their struggling front four. He gives them a strong inside defender to push the pocket and stuff the run.
23. NEW ORLEANS SAINTS - WR - SANTANA MOSS - MIAMI
Saints looking for a speedy playmaker and Moss can help as a receiver and return specialist. His ability to make big plays will open up the ground game for Ricky Williams.
24. DENVER BRONCOS - DE- JUSTIN SMITH - MISSOURI
Broncos need a speedy pass rusher off the edge and Justin has the package to be a fine addition. He has the talent to be an every down defender early in his pro career.
25. PHILADELPHIA EAGLES - RB - LAMONT JORDAN - MARYLAND
Eagles looking to add playmakers at either wide receiver or running back. Jordan has the speed to be a fine compliment to injured starter Duce Staley.
26. MIAMI DOLPHINS - WR - ROD GARDNER - CLEMSON
Dolphins need speed on offense especially at wide receiver. Gardner would be an excellent addition here and give them a go to receiver that has been missing in recent years.
27. TENNESSEE TITANS - WR - KENYON RAMBO - OHIO ST.
Titans do not want to go through another season with their injury riddled receiving corp. In a deep class of receivers, they will give strong consideration to that area in the early rounds.
28. MINNESOTA VIKINGS - CB - FRED SMOOT - MISSISSIPPI ST.
Vikings have to rebuild their battered defense especially in the secondary. Smoot has the fine cover skills to be an excellent addition.
29. OAKLAND RAIDERS - LB. - TOMMY POLLEY - FLORIDA ST.
Raiders continue to build a tough defense and look to strengthen one of their weaker areas on that unit. Polley has made a marvelous recovery from a prior knee injury displaying his big play ability again.
30. NEW YORK GIANTS - CB - KEN LUCAS - MISSISSIPPI.
Giants need to add a top corner who can matchup in man coverage. Lucas is one of the fastest rising players in the nation.
31. BALTIMORE RAVENS - OT - JEFF BACKUS - MICHIGAN
Ravens focus on offense and a young tackle opposite Jon Ogden would be a nice bookend. Backus is well developed and proficient as both a run and pass blocker.

NaptownChief
01-18-2001, 11:01 AM
If that played out I would be pissed...If Morgan is on the board and we pass him up I will be sick for a long time.

ROYC75
01-18-2001, 11:34 AM
Nap

I agree,but then again we all know what a mock draft is!

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ChiTown
01-18-2001, 11:57 AM
I have rarely seen a mock draft that pans out past the 1st 5-8 picks in the first rd. These things are fun to look at, bu hardly ever accurate.

FWIW - I believe the chiefs will take a defensive player with their first pick. That is their weakest link, and the RB will be picked up in FA and rd 3, IMHO.

Gaz
01-18-2001, 12:26 PM
Morgan on the board and we pass on him?

Nonsense.

xoxo~
gaz
casting this mock draft into the round file.

Mile High Mania
01-18-2001, 12:43 PM
Justin Smith.... ???? any news on him?

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I just love these li'l smileys.

Mile High Mania
01-18-2001, 12:56 PM
Gaz, could you shed some light on this one....


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ChiTown
01-18-2001, 01:01 PM
Also, I find it hard to believe that Drew Brees will slip to #16. Atlanta (#5), Seattle (#7/10), Carolina (#11) & even the Chiefs (#12 as insurance should Grbac leave), would all be hard pressed to pass up the 2nd best QB in the draft, and would have been the best and possibly the #1 pick had Vick stayed in college.

These mock drafts are horse caca.

Mark M
01-18-2001, 01:10 PM
I doubt that SD keeps the first pick. They could draft down to get a better passing QB and get some more picks. And if we pass on Morgan if he's there I'll puke!

MHM--
Isn't that last smilie Jesse Jackson and his woman? And you stole my bong-hit one before I could use it! I guess this will have to do:
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MM
~~Is that why he's called "MileHighMania"?

NaptownChief
01-18-2001, 01:11 PM
ChiTown,

I expect Brees will fall even farther...Very late 1st round and very possibly out of the 1st round all together...After the combine they will find out that he is shorter than Purdue has him listed and his arm won't stand up to what the scouts will be looking for...This will look a lot like the Chris Redman issue last year after he ran a 5.1 40...

ROYC75
01-18-2001, 01:14 PM
These smilies are start'n to be more entertaining than the topic is ? :D

Gaz
01-18-2001, 01:14 PM
From http://www.draftnotebook.com:

"6'5" 275# 4.6 Missouri #96
HOMETOWN: Holts Summit, Missouri. BIRTH DATE: September 20, 1979. HIGH SCHOOL: Recorded 124 tackles, 15 sacks, and 4 forced fumbles as a senior. Also lettered in basketball. COLLEGE: Started every game as a true freshman, sophomore, and junior. Led team in tackles as a junior. STRENGTHS: Athletic. Consistent. Instinctive. Productive. Best size of the top DE's. Quick off the ball. Hard worker. Productive, has dominated in the Big XII all three seasons."

He was not among Kiper's top prospects, if that makes any difference to you.

xoxo~
gaz
helpful as ever.

Mile High Mania
01-18-2001, 01:16 PM
Sorry MM.. Vick will not be an immediate impact QB for any NFL team. He will need a few years to adapt to the game, every QB needs some time and especially a player who would only be a junior next year.

Knowing this and knowing all too well the fiasco with Leaf (wasn't he another guy who left two years early?), why wouldn't the Chargers try to trade down to 8 or 10, snag a bunch of picks and still get a QB like Brees?

That would make much more sense to me... Brees could probably start a lot quicker than Vick and with the extra picks, you could grab a few OL guys or a top RB to give him help.

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NaptownChief
01-18-2001, 01:18 PM
Gaz,

Kiper actually put him on his board as the 6th best overall...He probably didn't have him on there until after he declared.

http://espn.go.com/melkiper/

Mile High Mania
01-18-2001, 01:20 PM
Gaz, thanks... however, I was really hoping you could shed some light on what that one smiley was doing to the other smiley.

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Gaz
01-18-2001, 01:23 PM
jl80-

You're right, I was looking at an outdated link.

xoxo~
gaz
behind the times again.

Mile High Mania
01-18-2001, 01:24 PM
Wow! According to Kiper's ranking, Dan Morgan would fall to.... Denver at #24. Wouldn't that drive ya nuts?

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NaptownChief
01-18-2001, 01:27 PM
That would piss me off pretty square...The good news is Kiper is way wrong more often than not...He thought Mike Cloud was a better back than Edgerrin James...

Mark M
01-18-2001, 01:30 PM
MHM--
That's what I was saying. SD will trade down and either get a QB in FA or later in the draft. They need help in all areas, and they need all the picks they can get.

If Morgan goes to Denver, I'll question DV even more. KC needs another impact defensive player, and a great LB is usually the best place to start.

And since Gaz won't touch your question, I will try to answer it: That smilie is doing to the other what the Chiefs have done to the Broncos the last two years.
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MM
~~Hey, MHM asked for it.

Mile High Mania
01-18-2001, 01:41 PM
Dangit... I did give you a nice set up, nice slam Shaq. Since Gaz missed the smack opportunity, we can call him the Shawn Bradley of Smack!

Here ya go MM...

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ChiTown
01-18-2001, 01:43 PM
I'll have to disagree with you JL.

These teams I mentioned will be looking for QB help. Brees is a winner and a leader with great feel for the game. I think he makes a quicker impact than Vick. Reminds a lot of Griese.

In a league that is drastically short on QB talent, and throws the jack at QB's like Ryan Leaf, Drew Brees will be a good logical 1st rd bet with huge upside Griese like potential. I am guessing he gets chosen by Seattle with their 10th pick.

NaptownChief
01-18-2001, 02:02 PM
Chi,

I agree with you about the similarities to Greise...But keep in mind for all the reasons Greise fell into the 3rd round will be the exact same reasons why Brees will fall. I am not saying it is right or wrong, but that is just how the NFL teams do it every single year...They are all paralyzed by the physical measurements that come out of the combine.

hawaiianboy
01-18-2001, 04:06 PM
jl80....

Watched the Hula Bowl practice yesterday and looked at the guys you wanted me to....

Drew Brees... any scout who ranks him a first round pick is seeing something I didn't... Not only was he dwarfed by the other QB's (no way he is 6 foot)... but his arm strength was not impressive, though he does have good touch...
he reminds me of Ty Detmer.
Some dude named Shane Griggs (Idaho St??) looked really good... tall, strong arm and accurate.


That RB from Neb., Buckhelter wasn't overly impressive but some cat named RJ Bowers sure was!

JT Hatcher was the best athlete there, though Leonard Myers (Miami) also looked very good.

Marcus Steele and Olevao (Utah) were impressive at LB.

NaptownChief
01-18-2001, 07:05 PM
Flyin'

Thanks for the update...Good to know I am not crazy about Brees...I trudged up to Lafayette three times this year to watch him play. His arm strength is very average and I knew after seeing him standing beside Marques Tuiasosopo at the Rose Bowl that he was only 5'11". You know the Billy Dicken story, soon some unexpecting NFL team will too. For our sake I hope it is one of our division guys(Sea or SD)hee,hee...

hawaiianboy
01-18-2001, 07:23 PM
Leight....

He's strictly a system QB IMO.... much the way Detmer and Wuerfel were.... I'm trying to put tgether a mock, and I really don't want to put him in the first round, though he'll probably go there... Even Ortege Jenkins (Zona) looked better than he did....

NaptownChief
01-18-2001, 07:26 PM
After the combine he will fall like a rock...When they see his tools rivals the brothers Detmer they will run like hell...

Here is someone who agrees with us:

http://www.users.qwest.net/~robandoreen/upandown.html

Mile High Mania
01-19-2001, 07:14 AM
What are some of the better draft sites out there?


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NaptownChief
01-19-2001, 07:20 AM
Mile High,

Here are two of the more credible sites that I have found:

http://www.users.qwest.net/~robandoreen/index.htm

and

http://www.draftnotebook.com/

Mark M
01-19-2001, 08:31 AM
MileHigh--
You like that? From now on, pleaes refer to me as Skinny Aristotle. :D

hawaii--
Any other RB's look good? How about DT's?

MM
~~"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle

hawaiianboy
01-19-2001, 05:51 PM
This link will connect you to a sight with 10 or so draft sites listed:


OAKLAND RAIDERS WILL SWEEP THE CHIEFS AGAIN IN 2001!! (http://www.footballsfuture.com/2001/mock.html)