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Braincase
11-30-2006, 01:49 PM
Here's the deal - I've been playing guitar for about 23 years. I love the instrument - the chords, the scales, the theory. I sit and jam for hours when I get the chance... but it's usually me just going through improvisational stuff. I know relatively few songs for as long as I've played. A little Van Halen, Blackbird by the Beatles, Dust in the Wind, Money for Nothin', Where the Streets Have No Name, Fortress Around Your Heart...

I'm technically pretty fair, but for the coming year I'm going to make a resolution to learn five songs a month. 3 easy tunes, 1 medium difficulty piece, and 1 more difficult piece (rhythm section, followed by solos.)

My five for January...

1. Heaven - Los Lonely Boys
2. Creep - Radiohead
3. All Along the Watchtower - Jimi Hendrix (love the Michael Hedges version)
4. Silent Lucidity - Queensryche
5. Canon Rock - Jerry C (good freakin' luck)

Come on fells - I know some of you guys are seriously experienced - Ron... Chad...

Help me develop my repertoire.

ChiefFripp
11-30-2006, 01:56 PM
go to www.Wholenote.com That site is priceless for guitarist.

Lzen
11-30-2006, 02:19 PM
Bat Country - Avenge Sevenfold

;)

Lzen
11-30-2006, 02:27 PM
Actually, I've been very much like you. When I was in bands in the past, we would mostly write original music. Of course, there were those few cover tunes mixed in. Mostly, they were easier to learn type songs. I've never had much patience for learning covers that are difficult. However, recently I have been working on a few covers.

Brainstew - Green Day (so simple even a caveman could do it)

Back In Black - AC/DC (of course, this isn't hard either and I used to play it years ago. I'm just re-learning)

I'm Broken - Pantera (I've learned pretty much everything but the solo. Usually when I get to the solo, I give up :banghead: )

The Silent Man - Dream Theater (one of my all time favorite acoustic songs. I'm actually trying to learn to play and sing this one. To be continued.....)

Bodies - Drowning Pool (Always loved how this song rocked but just never bother to learn how to play it. Now I pretty much have it down. Gotta tune down about 1.5 - 2 steps from drop "D" tuning, though )

I stand Alone - Godsmack (pretty much the same as above)

Down With The Sickness - Disturbed (Again just love the in your face headbangin' of this tune. Plus, the riffs sound really cool.)

Pain Redefined - Disturbed (Love the riffs)



Oh and there is a site that I've found to be very useful in this area.
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/
Tons of tabs submitted by guitarists like you and me. Usually there are several to choose from and I can generally find the one that looks right.

Braincase
11-30-2006, 03:12 PM
I understand completely, Chad. I want to learn so many songs, I just haven't acquired the discipline to do it.

Others I should learn...

Classical Gas - Mason Williams
Breezin' - George Benson
Crazy Train - Ozzy
Santeria - Sublime
Under the Bridge - RHCP

Demonpenz
11-30-2006, 03:28 PM
i try to play mostly blues but i just got the tabs for deftones my own summer yesterday.
i also leard an easy one yesterday godsmach keep away just drop d and some distortion
crazy train is a hard one. I have just been shuffling all day trying to learn some good blues stuff my finugers aren't good enough for improv yet. Hopefully if someone gives me the I I IV easy shit i can improve one of these days. KEEP ROCKING

Demonpenz
11-30-2006, 03:29 PM
you also can go on youtube and just look for insperation

wilas101
11-30-2006, 03:29 PM
Of course someone elses idea of difficulty compared to mine will probably differ but....

easy - Nirvana: "Smells like Teen Spirit"
easy - Rage Against the Machine: "Bullet in the Head" (don't know that this qualifies as easy given the way Tom Morello uses his effects but what the hell... learn it anyway. :P )
easy - Soundgarden "Fell On Black Days"
medium - Metallica: "The Four Horsemen"
difficult - Gary Hoey: "Hocus Pocus"

ChiefFripp
11-30-2006, 06:31 PM
Crosspicking:Fracture or FraKctured by King Crimson

Bends and ghost slides: Shine on You Crazy Diamond by Pink Floyd

Chords and and chord leads: Angel and Little Wing by Hendrix

Downstroking Powerchords: Disposable Heroes by Metallica

Acoustic strumming and arpeggios: To Bid You farewell by Opeth

Braincase
11-30-2006, 06:54 PM
Crosspicking:Fracture or FraKctured by King Crimson

Bends and ghost slides: Shine on You Crazy Diamond by Pink Foyd

Chords and and chord leads: Angel and Little Wing by Hendrix

Downstroking Powerchords: Disposable Heroes by Metallica

Acoustic strumming and arpeggios: To Bid You farewell by Opeth

Thanks for the tip on wholenote.com. Appears to be a neat site. I also like Jamsession... http://guitar.zentao.com

BWillie
11-30-2006, 06:58 PM
Bat Country - Avenge Sevenfold

;)

Good luck, that is one mean solo. I used to be able to play hot cross buns on the recorder. I was such a bad ass haha

CHIEF4EVER
11-30-2006, 07:10 PM
If you're truly talented.....

Heaven Tonight - Yngwie Malmsteen
Scuttlebuttin - Stevie Ray Vaughan

pr_capone
11-30-2006, 09:41 PM
Island in the sun - Weezer

ZepSinger
11-30-2006, 10:51 PM
Dang, we always did mainly originals. I haven't done cover tunes since the 80's....

While we're on that subject- just for yucks, I posted that 'Nuclear World' vid(tune I wrote in 1990) on youtube a couple weeks ago:

Nuclear World (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv2Nngtjz4w)

When North Korea started testing nukes, I saw my opportunity for crass commercialism and upped the tune.

LMAO

Z

CHENZ A!
12-01-2006, 12:05 AM
Dude, learn to play Crazy Train, that's like the holy grail of guitar playing right there.

Halfcan
12-01-2006, 12:50 AM
go to www.Wholenote.com That site is priceless for guitarist.

No Alex Lifeson-whats the point if you can't learn the best??

Lzen
12-01-2006, 08:36 AM
No Alex Lifeson-whats the point if you can't learn the best??

Heh, Lifeson is good. But I would hardly call him the best.

Chiefnj
12-01-2006, 09:29 AM
People Get Ready - Beck with Stewart on vocals.
Cult of Personality - Living Color
Midsummer's Daydream - Triumph

ZepSinger
12-01-2006, 09:31 AM
Heh, Lifeson is good. But I would hardly call him the best.

That's what I was thinking. Respectable, yes- learning some classic Rush tunes, yes- but the Best? Hardly.

Z

ZepSinger
12-01-2006, 09:40 AM
OK, I just thought of a few simple tunes that are fun to play:

Back in Black (key of E)
Crazy Train (A)
Roadhouse Blues (E)
Comfortably Numb (Bm)
Ice Cream Man (E)
Voodoo Chile (Hendrix or SRV, take yer pick) (E)

Have fun!!!

Z

Halfcan
12-01-2006, 12:50 PM
Heh, Lifeson is good. But I would hardly call him the best.


If you look at his whole body of work-he is hands down the best. Check out some early bootlegs and concert videos-he just shreads. Plus the fact he has changed his sound so many times. He has taken the guitar to places only Jimi, Jimmy, Eddie, and Stevie have taken it.

For Alex to be so under rated after 40 years just amazes me.

Braincase
12-01-2006, 01:10 PM
Ha... I guess I could add this to the list for laughs... (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=3594436&postcount=30)

Lzen
12-01-2006, 01:21 PM
If you look at his whole body of work-he is hands down the best. Check out some early bootlegs and concert videos-he just shreads. Plus the fact he has changed his sound so many times. He has taken the guitar to places only Jimi, Jimmy, Eddie, and Stevie have taken it.

For Alex to be so under rated after 40 years just amazes me.

Eh, I like Lifeson. But again, it's simply a matter of taste. He's good, yes. But not the best.....unless, of course, you're a Rush fanboy. ;)

ChiefFripp
12-01-2006, 01:30 PM
I can think of quite a few players off the top of my head who own Lifeson( not just technically or speedwise either). But it's about creativity and uniquness which I think Lifeson has his fair share of within the confines of Rush. I couldn't really get into Victor either.

htismaqe
12-01-2006, 02:05 PM
If you look at his whole body of work-he is hands down the best. Check out some early bootlegs and concert videos-he just shreads. Plus the fact he has changed his sound so many times. He has taken the guitar to places only Jimi, Jimmy, Eddie, and Stevie have taken it.

For Alex to be so under rated after 40 years just amazes me.

Give me a ****ing break.

At some point, your comments on the subject go from absurd to downright retarded.

Alex Lifeson doesn't even belong in the same CONVERSATION as Jimi Hendrix or Jimmy Page.

Halfcan
12-01-2006, 02:46 PM
Give me a ****ing break.

At some point, your comments on the subject go from absurd to downright retarded.

Alex Lifeson doesn't even belong in the same CONVERSATION as Jimi Hendrix or Jimmy Page.

Alex blows both away in a live performance. Yes Jimi burned his guitar and all that-but most of the time was on acid and out of tune. Jimmy was a junkie most of the Zep years and was mostly terrible in concert and could never recreate his sound in the studio.

I have seen Rush many times-and Alex is usually flawless.

Considering the number of guitarist ALex has influenced-I think he does belong in a conversation with the Greatest of all time.

htismaqe
12-01-2006, 03:05 PM
Alex blows both away in a live performance. Yes Jimi burned his guitar and all that-but most of the time was on acid and out of tune. Jimmy was a junkie most of the Zep years and was mostly terrible in concert and could never recreate his sound in the studio.

I have seen Rush many times-and Alex is usually flawless.

Considering the number of guitarist ALex has influenced-I think he does belong in a conversation with the Greatest of all time.

Being technically proficient <> great.

And give me a break...Jimi Hendrix has influenced more musicians than Alex Lifeson by a magnitude of 10,000.

Dark Horse
12-01-2006, 07:32 PM
Dang, we always did mainly originals. I haven't done cover tunes since the 80's....

While we're on that subject- just for yucks, I posted that 'Nuclear World' vid(tune I wrote in 1990) on youtube a couple weeks ago:

Nuclear World (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv2Nngtjz4w)

When North Korea started testing nukes, I saw my opportunity for crass commercialism and upped the tune.

LMAO

Z

Cool song reminds me of one I wrote in about 84 called Holocaust I don't have a video though and just posting the lyrics would be kind of lame.

ZepSinger
12-01-2006, 07:43 PM
Cool song reminds me of one I wrote in about 84 called Holocaust I don't have a video though and just posting the lyrics would be kind of lame.

When I wrote that, I was darkly fascinated with the thought of a nuke hitting KC at night...
:eek:

Braincase
12-01-2006, 07:49 PM
Give me a ****ing break.

At some point, your comments on the subject go from absurd to downright retarded.

Alex Lifeson doesn't even belong in the same CONVERSATION as Jimi Hendrix or Jimmy Page.

If all a person has ever seen is Lifeson, then all they'll ever understand is Lifeson.

I've seen Eddie, Buckethead, Joe, Eric, Vai, Yngwie, Steve Morse, Leo Kottke, Alexi Laiho, Petrucci, and numerous others. Lifeson is a good guitarist, but he is probably of a Canadian Top-5.

Rik Emmett
Liona Boyd
Jeff Healey
Alex Lifeson

But I would put Lifeson after Emmett. Alex is 3rd banana in Rush, and easily the easiest to replace among the three.

Lzen
12-01-2006, 08:36 PM
Dang, we always did mainly originals. I haven't done cover tunes since the 80's....

While we're on that subject- just for yucks, I posted that 'Nuclear World' vid(tune I wrote in 1990) on youtube a couple weeks ago:

Nuclear World (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv2Nngtjz4w)

When North Korea started testing nukes, I saw my opportunity for crass commercialism and upped the tune.

LMAO

Z

That was pretty cool. That production was very good. The song reminds me of another band but I can't remember...been so long. Keyboards sound is a little similar to early Dream Theater sound.

Halfcan
12-01-2006, 08:52 PM
That was pretty cool. That production was very good. The song reminds me of another band but I can't remember...been so long. Keyboards sound is a little similar to early Dream Theater sound.

I was thinking Europe- Cherokee-martching on the trail of tears. You got some pipes on ya.

Halfcan
12-01-2006, 08:59 PM
If all a person has ever seen is Lifeson, then all they'll ever understand is Lifeson.

I've seen Eddie, Buckethead, Joe, Eric, Vai, Yngwie, Steve Morse, Leo Kottke, Alexi Laiho, Petrucci, and numerous others. Lifeson is a good guitarist, but he is probably of a Canadian Top-5.

Rik Emmett
Liona Boyd
Jeff Healey
Alex Lifeson

But I would put Lifeson after Emmett. Alex is 3rd banana in Rush, and easily the easiest to replace among the three.

Well if that was meant for me-I have seen over 100 concerts and several hundred bar shows. Alex is Rush-he started the band and is the heart of it. Rik is a great guitarist, one of my favs-used to watch his tapes on guitar technique-but he is in awe of Alex-so that should tell you something. Jeff Healey was great in Roadhouse-but to put him in front of Alex is a joke. Never heard of Boyd??

I will never understand all the hate for Alex-obviously you missed his early days when he was untouchable-easily the best player of the 70's.

ZepSinger
12-01-2006, 09:09 PM
I was thinking Europe- Cherokee-martching on the trail of tears. You got some pipes on ya.

I wasn't the lead singer. I was the guitarist on stage right.

Z

Halfcan
12-01-2006, 09:15 PM
I wasn't the lead singer. I was the guitarist on stage right.

Z

Your no Alex Lifeson but I would rank you before Buckethead-lol

Dark Horse
12-02-2006, 09:27 AM
When I wrote that, I was darkly fascinated with the thought of a nuke hitting KC at night...
:eek:

So is the prozac helping?

CHIEF4EVER
12-02-2006, 09:51 AM
Insofar as pure skill goes, Yngwie Malmsteen makes Lifeson look like a frickin amateur.

htismaqe
12-02-2006, 10:26 AM
Well if that was meant for me-I have seen over 100 concerts and several hundred bar shows. Alex is Rush-he started the band and is the heart of it. Rik is a great guitarist, one of my favs-used to watch his tapes on guitar technique-but he is in awe of Alex-so that should tell you something. Jeff Healey was great in Roadhouse-but to put him in front of Alex is a joke. Never heard of Boyd??

I will never understand all the hate for Alex-obviously you missed his early days when he was untouchable-easily the best player of the 70's.

I don't HATE Alex. In fact, I think he's GREAT.

I HATE the fact that you're a ****ing retard. He isn't the 100th-best player of the 70's.

ZepSinger
12-02-2006, 11:26 AM
So is the prozac helping?


LMAO