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chefsos
12-09-2006, 11:41 PM
Some interesting nuggets of information to chew on:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-ravensscout1210,0,6965471.story?coll=bal-sports-football

Ravens scouting report
Sunday, 1 p.m., Arrowhead Stadium, Ch. 13

Sun staff
Originally published December 9, 2006, 6:07 PM EST


Ravens run offense vs. Chiefs run defense: Ravens running back Jamal Lewis continues to run hard but has yet to consistently wear down defenses. He has eclipsed 100 yards once in his past 14 games. Although Kansas City allowed 150 rushing yards against the Cleveland Browns, the Chiefs have usually been stout. Kansas City has limited three of its past four opponents to less than 4 yards a carry. The Ravens' best chance to establish a run game is attacking the edges against Chiefs defensive ends Tamba Hali and Jared Allen, who are better pass rushers than run stoppers. Kansas City has not allowed a 100-yard rusher in 21 straight home games, the longest active streak in the NFL. Edge: Chiefs

Ravens pass offense vs. Chiefs pass defense: The Chiefs mainly play a cover-two defense, which means they play both safeties deep to prevent big plays. But that leaves them vulnerable over the middle - especially to tight ends - because linebacker Kawika Mitchell is a liability in pass coverage. Kansas City has allowed six touchdowns to tight ends this season, which could signal a big day for Todd Heap. In six games with coach Brian Billick as the play-caller, quarterback Steve McNair has averaged 230 yards passing. He has thrown seven touchdowns and two interceptions during that time. The Ravens have given up 16 sacks, fourth fewest in the league. Edge: Ravens

Chiefs run offense vs. Ravens run defense: This matches the NFL's second-leading rusher against the league's second-best run defense. Chiefs running back Larry Johnson has topped 100 yards in six of his last seven starts, averaging 136.4 yards over that span. While Johnson has never faced the Ravens, he has hammered some tough defenses, going over 100 yards twice against Denver and once against San Diego. This should be his toughest challenge of the season. The Ravens have not allowed a 100-yard rusher this season with linebacker Ray Lewis in the lineup. The past three featured backs to face the Ravens - Cincinnati's Rudi Johnson, Pittsburgh's Willie Parker and Atlanta's Warrick Dunn - each failed to gain more than 52 yards. Edge: Even

Chiefs pass offense vs. Ravens pass defense: The Chiefs have transformed into a run-heavy offense, throwing fewer than 23 passes in three of their past five games. But Trent Green is coming off his best game since returning from a severe concussion, throwing for 297 yards and four touchdowns last Sunday against the Browns. The Ravens haven't allowed a quarterback to pass for more than 234 yards against them in five games. Unlike Cincinnati, Kansas City doesn't have legitimate deep threats at receiver, which will allow the Ravens to play man coverage and blitz more often. The Chiefs' best weapon in the passing game is tight end Tony Gonzalez. Edge: Ravens

Special teams: With return specialist B.J. Sams done for the season with a broken ankle, the Ravens have turned to starting receiver Mark Clayton on punt returns and undrafted rookie Cory Ross on kickoff returns. Ross looked shaky in fielding kicks early in the week. The Chiefs have one of the NFL's most dangerous returners in Dante Hall, who holds a share of the record for the longest kickoff return ever against the Ravens (a 97-yard touchdown in 2003). In what could be a defensive-minded game, the Chiefs have the advantage in punting with Dustin Colquitt, who's fifth in the NFL in average (45.1 yards). Edge: Chiefs

Intangibles: The Chiefs are 20-1 at Arrowhead Stadium in December since 1995, but their 3-5 record against AFC opponents this year makes them look suspect. The Ravens know how to deal with the noise, having won at the deafening Superdome. Not only do the Ravens play better after an extended rest, but they are 28-14 after a loss since 2000 (tied for second-best in the NFL). This game has playoff repercussions for both teams, so neither has an edge in motivation. Edge: Ravens

Prediction: Winning in Kansas City is a challenge, but facing the Ravens' defense is becoming more daunting these days. The Ravens' defense had one major lapse in Cincinnati. It won't have any Sunday.

Ravens, 17-9

[Jamison Hensley]


Matchup to watch
Ravens defensive tackle Haloti Ngata vs. Chiefs guards Brian Waters and Will Shields

George Kokinis, the Ravens' pro personnel director, sizes up a critical matchup against the Chiefs:

The players: The Ravens moved up one spot in this year's draft to select Ngata with the 12th pick overall. In addition to making 35 tackles, Ngata has become a major factor in the Ravens ranking second in run defense.

Ngata left the University of Oregon after his junior season, when he was named the Pacific-10's co-Defensive Player of the Year. He became the first rookie to start full time on the Ravens' defensive line since 2002.

Waters and Shields have been named to the past two Pro Bowls, the first time two guards from one team have done so since 1998. Waters, who plays left guard, might be the strongest player on the team. He joined the Chiefs in 2000 after being cut by the Dallas Cowboys in 1999, when he was an undrafted rookie tight end.

Shields, the right guard, has gone to 11 consecutive Pro Bowls, the longest active streak in the NFL. He has been the cornerstone of an offensive line that has paved the way for four of the five best single-season rushing performances in franchise history.

What to watch: It's starting to come together for Ngata. A tribute to him is that he continues to work every day to get better from a technique standpoint, and it's translating on Sundays. He's able to recognize things more quickly and still play sound technique. He's playing fast and playing like a 350-pound tackle, which means he's playing with power.

Over the years, Waters and Shields have helped the Chiefs' running game be one of the best in the league no matter who is behind them. There's no question that running back Larry Johnson is a talented player, but rushing success starts up front.

These guards get people moving on the defense, and it will be up to Ngata to penetrate that. The Ravens need to play on Kansas City's side of the line of scrimmage. If not, holes might begin to open.


Game facts
Matchup
Vs. spread // Ravens 7-5; Chiefs 6-6.
Series // Chiefs lead 3-0.
Last meeting // Chiefs won, 27-24, on Oct. 4, 2004, at Baltimore.

Rankings
Ravens offense // Overall (23), rush (24T), pass (16)
Ravens defense // Overall (1), rush (2), pass (9)
Chiefs offense // Overall (13), rush (6), pass (19)
Chiefs defense // Overall (14), rush (14), pass (15)

Ravens injuries
OUT // LB Dan Cody (knee); RB Musa Smith (neck).
QUESTIONABLE // TE Daniel Wilcox (thigh).
PROBABLE // LB Dennis Haley (ankle); G Keydrick Vincent (thigh); CB Ronnie Prude (illness).

Chiefs injuries
QUESTIONABLE // OT Kyle Turley (shoulder); DE Jimmy Wilkerson (hamstring).
PROBABLE // TE Tony Gonzalez (shoulder); LB Keyaron Fox (back); LB Derrick Johnson (ankle); S Sammy Knight (ankle); DT James Reed (groin); S Jarrad Page (back).

Count Zarth
12-09-2006, 11:49 PM
Here's my little breakdown...I go a little more in-depth.

http://www.realfootball365.com/nfl/articles/2006/12/chiefs-points-ravens081206.html

BigRock
12-10-2006, 12:06 AM
Intangibles: The Chiefs are 20-1 at Arrowhead Stadium in December since 1995, but their 3-5 record against AFC opponents this year makes them look suspect. The Ravens know how to deal with the noise, having won at the deafening Superdome. Not only do the Ravens play better after an extended rest, but they are 28-14 after a loss since 2000 (tied for second-best in the NFL). This game has playoff repercussions for both teams, so neither has an edge in motivation. Edge: Ravens
I realize it's a Baltimore paper, but come on. KC hasn't lost at home in December in 10 years. The Ravens, they fail to mention, have never beaten the Chiefs. Steve McNair has never played in Arrowhead. The Ravens as a team have never played in Arrowhead, which means all their losses to KC came in their own house.

That stat they mention about winning the game after a loss is also interesting. Back in 2004, the Colts had the longest such streak of not losing 2 games in a row... until they came to Arrowhead the week after a loss. Earlier this year, after the Pats dropped two in a row, the Broncos had the longest streak of not losing two straight... until they came to Arrowhead after a loss.

Meaningless though it is, I think the intangibles favor us.

beer bacon
12-10-2006, 12:06 AM
This article seems pretty poor to me.

First the guy says to run at JA and Tamba, and he implies that they aren't that good at run defense. Jared Allen has the most solo tackles of any defensive linemen in the NFL, and he is second in the league in stuffs. Hali isn't far behind him tackles despite a lingering injury. Tamba is one of the most active players on our entire defense.

The best way to run at us is staight up the middle. You can wear down our DTs. Once the O-line is opening holes up the middle, Mitchell will often overpursue or fill the wrong hole.

The second problem I have with the article is the claim that Mitchell is why we are poor against TEs. Kendrell Bell is the source of many of our problems against TEs. This is especially true in the redzone, where it seems that Bell lined up against any receiver is an easy score for the opposing team if they manage to pick up on our coverage.

My last problem is with him giving the intangibles to Baltimore. Arrowhead in the Winter.

tk13
12-10-2006, 12:32 AM
The only thing I really laugh at is the paragraph about intangibles, the most impressive statistic on there is our December record, and then they still list edge: Ravens, that's pretty hilarious.

Direckshun
12-10-2006, 01:32 AM
I'm with BigRock.

I think it's a fair article, but it's completely wrong on Intangibles.

Coach
12-10-2006, 06:11 AM
The only thing I really laugh at is the paragraph about intangibles, the most impressive statistic on there is our December record, and then they still list edge: Ravens, that's pretty hilarious.

Blatant homerism at it's finest.

CupidStunt
12-10-2006, 06:16 AM
The intangibles part is a f*cking hoot.

CupidStunt
12-10-2006, 06:17 AM
Oh, and since I decided to read (for some strange reason), it's also complete bullchit that Allen and Hali are better pass-rushers than run stuffers. The numbers say the complete opposite.

Of course, I'm going to stop there. The chances are this article is full of even more shit.

Braincase
12-10-2006, 06:25 AM
We ought to start chanting "Hey McNair! How's your chest?"

Only play Duane Clemons made.

StcChief
12-10-2006, 06:44 AM
The crux of this the last line....


These guards get people moving on the defense, and it will be up to Ngata to penetrate that. The Ravens need to play on Kansas City's side of the line of scrimmage. If not, holes might begin to open.

THERE is NO MIGHT ABOUT IT.
These are the same guys that did it for Priest in Baltimore in 2004.

LJ has been doing it all year against some good Defenses.....

We are at home.

Match ups analysis OK.

Intangible is we win at home in Dec.

This guy is a homer.

boogblaster
12-10-2006, 07:16 AM
Sounds like the pump is running ....

Easy 6
12-10-2006, 07:29 AM
This guy is living on Lake Mars, we only score 3 field goals at home?!?!?!

I would like to see what fantastic tale he spins when they lose today.

mikey23545
12-10-2006, 08:08 AM
One thing that hasn't been mentioned is that the Chief's style of running is the last thing Ray-Ray wants to face.

He is at his best running from sideline to sideline hitting runners from angles when teams try to get outside of him. With LJ the Hurt Train coming directly up the middle time after time (if we can just crack open their Dline a hair) I have a feeling someone is going to think they're getting double-teamed all day again....

StcChief
12-10-2006, 08:30 AM
LJ just stiff arm this punk to ground.

cdcox
12-10-2006, 08:38 AM
I realize it's a Baltimore paper, but come on. KC hasn't lost at home in December in 10 years. The Ravens, they fail to mention, have never beaten the Chiefs. Steve McNair has never played in Arrowhead. The Ravens as a team have never played in Arrowhead, which means all their losses to KC came in their own house.

That stat they mention about winning the game after a loss is also interesting. Back in 2004, the Colts had the longest such streak of not losing 2 games in a row... until they came to Arrowhead the week after a loss. Earlier this year, after the Pats dropped two in a row, the Broncos had the longest streak of not losing two straight... until they came to Arrowhead after a loss.

Meaningless though it is, I think the intangibles favor us.

Nice post. Without the intangibles, I would be expecting a loss. However as it stands now, I think we will win, though, nothing would surprise me.

Mr. Laz
12-10-2006, 08:52 AM
just said on Espn that the Ravens plan to Blitz the heck out of Trent Green.

i guess Ryan has put in alot more blitz packages that include the cornerbacks,safeties etc

siberian khatru
12-10-2006, 08:55 AM
nothing would surprise me.

The Tao of being a Chiefs fan.

trndobrd
12-10-2006, 09:00 AM
just said on Espn that the Ravens plan to Blitz the heck out of Trent Green.

i guess Ryan has put in alot more blitz packages that include the cornerbacks,safeties etc


That will last until LJ's third 20 yard run on a draw play.

milkman
12-10-2006, 09:00 AM
just said on Espn that the Ravens plan to Blitz the heck out of Trent Green.

i guess Ryan has put in alot more blitz packages that include the cornerbacks,safeties etc

I saw that report.

Hope Solari has some draws and screens in the plan.
If he does, LJ could abuse that Raven defense.

Count Zarth
12-10-2006, 09:04 AM
The Chiefs should come out using the hard count as they did a year ago against Denver.