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HonestChieffan
12-18-2006, 07:42 AM
OK you can post all the ignorant Charger suck threads you want but man they show a lot of heart, class, and talent in every phase of the game.

This is a team that may have every cylinder popin along at exactly =the right time.

Congrats to Marty and to the Chargers. And Good luck!

King_Chief_Fan
12-18-2006, 07:46 AM
OK you can post all the ignorant Charger suck threads you want but man they show a lot of heart, class, and talent in every phase of the game.

This is a team that may have every cylinder popin along at exactly =the right time.

Congrats to Marty and to the Chargers. And Good luck!

Oustide of a couple of HUGH runs, I think the Chiefs D played well enough to win that game last night had the offense done their job.

I wasn't that impressed with the Chargers. I did however enjoy very much the ass whopping they game the Donks.

beer bacon
12-18-2006, 07:54 AM
Oustide of a couple of HUGH runs, I think the Chiefs D played well enough to win that game last night had the offense done their job.

I wasn't that impressed with the Chargers. I did however enjoy very much the ass whopping they game the Donks.

The Chiefs actually held San Diego to their second lowest scoring output of the season. The only game this season that the Chargers have scored less was when they lost 16-13 at Baltimore. Defense was not the problem yesterday. Our defense gave us plenty of opportunities to win.

boogblaster
12-18-2006, 08:12 AM
Chargers are a good team..but in the POs they will lose..Rivers is too inconstant..they will not be able to just run LT and win..teams step-up in the POs....

Short Leash Hootie
12-18-2006, 08:13 AM
Yeah...the Chargers almost put up as many points againt us as the Browns!!!

THEY'RE PHENOMENAL!

StcChief
12-18-2006, 10:19 AM
Under impressed by Chargers....Thought they were much better, have blown out some teams, though they held on against the Faiders at home. :)

They aren't going anywhere.....

Our D gave up 85 yd. Run after the punt block debacle. A 14 pt swing.

Rivers is inconsistent. A real Solid D will take care of him and LT wont run wild. don't be Surprised if Baltimore comes into SD and wins.

Bearcat
12-18-2006, 10:34 AM
They really lacked the ability to put us away, and Rivers obviously can't go Ryan Leaf on his offense in January. We gave the Chargers every chance to go up 3 posessions in the first quarter, and they couldn't get it done. They kept us in the game, and it'll be interesting to see what happens to them in the playoffs.

JonesCrusher
12-18-2006, 10:38 AM
There are no "for real" teams this year, in my opinion this is the most evenly matched year of football I can remember. There are only a handfull of teams out of playoffs with 2 weeks left.

Iowanian
12-18-2006, 11:04 AM
The Bolts won't make it to the big game.

The QB is inconsistent, their Oline is suspect and their secondary is average.

I think they'd beat Indy due to their running game, but Balt, NE and maybe Cinci would beat them.

I hope the new bandwagon fans really buy in and the burn is deep when its over.

boltpower 21
12-18-2006, 11:06 AM
Under impressed by Chargers....Thought they were much better, have blown out some teams, though they held on against the Faiders at home. :)

They aren't going anywhere.....

Our D gave up 85 yd. Run after the punt block debacle. A 14 pt swing.

Rivers is inconsistent. A real Solid D will take care of him and LT wont run wild. don't be Surprised if Baltimore comes into SD and wins.

I think you pretty much throw out everything in a divisional game with playoff implications (KC fighting for their playoff lives, SD fighting to hang on to the #1 seed).

Rivers is finally starting to show some bad games. That's not surprising for a first year starting quarterback, it's to be expected.

I thought both defenses played pretty well. Obviously, the Chief's run D couldn't stop LT but they frustrated Rivers all night long.

Iowanian
12-18-2006, 11:09 AM
The Chiefs knew they were out due to their conference record.

the Bolts just aren't that dominating. You'll get your hearts ripped out in the playoffs, and the more the fans crow, the more I'll take pleasure from watching it.

boltpower 21
12-18-2006, 11:13 AM
The Bolts won't make it to the big game.

The QB is inconsistent, their Oline is suspect and their secondary is average.

I think they'd beat Indy due to their running game, but Balt, NE and maybe Cinci would beat them.

I hope the new bandwagon fans really buy in and the burn is deep when its over.

I think any of the top four seeds minus Indy (SD, NE, Baltimore) and the Bengals (if they hang on to their wild card spot) have a shot for the Super Bowl.

I actually think there is too much expectations for the Chargers this year. They're the hottest team right now but I think the upcoming years will hold better chances for them when Rivers gets more experience (and playoff experience) under his belt. The main thing going for them this year is that LT is playing out of his mind and they currently have HFA.

boltpower 21
12-18-2006, 11:17 AM
The Chiefs knew they were out due to their conference record.

the Bolts just aren't that dominating. You'll get your hearts ripped out in the playoffs, and the more the fans crow, the more I'll take pleasure from watching it.

That comes off sounding like a sore loser: 'We lost but you'll lose in the playoffs so it doesn't matter.'

That's fine though. Part of me believes that this is finally the year for the Bolts (everything is rolling our way unlike last year when everything seemed to go wrong) but the other part of me realizes that this team is being set up to have a pretty good run in the upcoming years.

KC Dan
12-18-2006, 11:20 AM
That comes off sounding like a sore loser: 'We lost but you'll lose in the playoffs so it doesn't matter.'

That's fine though. Part of me believes that this is finally the year for the Bolts (everything is rolling our way unlike last year when everything seemed to go wrong) but the other part of me realizes that this team is being set up to have a pretty good run in the upcoming years.
Disagree, the dolts had better win it this year. Because, LT will be on Madden 08 and we all know what will happen after that.

boltpower 21
12-18-2006, 11:22 AM
Disagree, the dolts had better win it this year. Because, LT will be on Madden 08 and we all know what will happen after that.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Straight, No Chaser
12-18-2006, 11:26 AM
OK you can post all the ignorant Charger suck threads you want but man they show a lot of heart, class, and talent in every phase of the game.

This is a team that may have every cylinder popin along at exactly =the right time.

Congrats to Marty and to the Chargers. And Good luck!

Rivers running to the sidelines whinning like a little baby is not a good sign. They will face better pass defences in the playoffs. Without Knight(?) slipping LT's yards would be -85. Still, he is having his best year and that is good enough to get Schotszie into the playoffs. If Marty let's his coordinators call the shots they'll be fine. Balanced in all three phases~


--->

Iowanian
12-18-2006, 11:30 AM
Maybe Madden will try something new....put LT, Rivers and Gates...and Merry-man on teh cover.


As for "sore loser" I'd wager I could find similar quotes from myself prior to this game.

Diego De La Vega
12-18-2006, 12:06 PM
Under impressed by Chargers....Thought they were much better, have blown out some teams, though they held on against the Faiders at home. :)

They aren't going anywhere.....

Our D gave up 85 yd. Run after the punt block debacle. A 14 pt swing.

Rivers is inconsistent. A real Solid D will take care of him and LT wont run wild. don't be Surprised if Baltimore comes into SD and wins.

Wow,
Are you guys kidding me with this. I was at the game last night and the Chiefs D was excellent. But under impressed Chargers? 12-2 guy in case you missed the score at the end 20-9? Held your team without a touchdown? Dillusional Chief Fans!

Your team is better than a 500 team. I would even go, as far to say, that you should be in the playoff hunt, but wow under impressed? What does it take to impress you? LT going for 500 yards, the Defense shutting you out and Herm Edwards giving you a lap dance at the half? Give me a break, you got beat by a better team.....recognize!

Tuckdaddy
12-18-2006, 12:07 PM
Rivers will lose a playoff game for them.

StcChief
12-18-2006, 12:12 PM
We lost to a better team,
Your constant pressure on D.

we also beat ourselves.

Trent's throws under pressure...

Gonzo endzone catch/dropped.

You guys are one and done under Marty unless you play better than last nite.

Good luck with Marty in playoffs :)

Diego De La Vega
12-18-2006, 12:30 PM
The Bolts won't make it to the big game.

The QB is inconsistent, their Oline is suspect and their secondary is average.

I think they'd beat Indy due to their running game, but Balt, NE and maybe Cinci would beat them.

I hope the new bandwagon fans really buy in and the burn is deep when its over.

HHHmmmm let's review,
We Came from behind to put Cincy Away 49 to 41. We got beat up by KC and have not lost a game since. We lost to a decent Balt team 16 to 13 (In my opinion due to conservative coaching) But have pretty much beat up everybody else.
I have been a Charger Fan, well really since 1989. So I guess this will burst your bubble for a Band Wagoner. Being at the game last night and watching the Chiefs actually play a tough physical game and did better than the score shows. I am a little bitter at your idiotic response and a little disappointed that you are having trouble discerning the obvious. So let me state it for you. Chargers are for real, an actual unselfish team, and by the way in case you have missed it.....12-2?
O-line is suspect lol.......You were kidding right? Oh wait.......your not?

After your incredibly ignorant post I will tell you what I will do. When you are sitting at home watching the Chargers in the playoffs, I will do you a favor and purchase some common sense for you, for X-mas.

A little gift from me to you Iowanobranian

KC Dan
12-18-2006, 12:31 PM
A little gift from me to you Iowanobranian
And we're off.......

MahiMike
12-18-2006, 12:34 PM
You're right. Marty will go to - and WIN - his 1st Superbowl!

Predarat
12-18-2006, 12:54 PM
The Bolts are for real for now but once the playoffs start they will be home with their bad pretender selves.

King_Chief_Fan
12-18-2006, 01:02 PM
Wow,
Are you guys kidding me with this. I was at the game last night and the Chiefs D was excellent. But under impressed Chargers? 12-2 guy in case you missed the score at the end 20-9? Held your team without a touchdown? Dillusional Chief Fans!

Your team is better than a 500 team. I would even go, as far to say, that you should be in the playoff hunt, but wow under impressed? What does it take to impress you? LT going for 500 yards, the Defense shutting you out and Herm Edwards giving you a lap dance at the half? Give me a break, you got beat by a better team.....recognize!

congratulations on your team. You have a right to be proud.
However, where have you been until now? You show up at the end to claim how wonderful your team is after the team who was most likely to beat you failed. Showing up this late in the game pounding your chest makes you an unwanted and asswipe troll.
Now be happy with your team and get.

Iowanian
12-18-2006, 02:17 PM
All right ****nut, congratulations on all of your pregame balls.
Maybe for Christmas, your money would be better spent on a heated cushion for your seat on the bandwagon that is still cold.

http://www.onekama.k12.mi.us/h2001/bandwagon.sm2.JPG

you think the Bolts are unstoppable? The D gave up 41 to a struggling Cinci team......they quit, and you won. woo hoo. Balt gave you a preview of the beating they'll put on you in the playoffs, if you make it that far.

Pour your ass full of lighter fluid and fart on a bonfire, troll.

Prior to this week, I felt a fairly civil rivalry with eggo fans....After this week, They can eat the contents of AlDavis' collostomy.

Unless Denver makes it, I'll root for every team playing Sandy eggo, just so their fans will be nice and butthurt when they realise the team with such a shitty fanbase that the team is leaving town.....leaves town.

HHHmmmm let's review,
We Came from behind to put Cincy Away 49 to 41. I will do you a favor and purchase some common sense for you, for X-mas.

A little gift from me to you Iowanobranian

Bearcat
12-18-2006, 02:19 PM
Wow,
Are you guys kidding me with this. I was at the game last night and the Chiefs D was excellent. But under impressed Chargers? 12-2 guy in case you missed the score at the end 20-9? Held your team without a touchdown? Dillusional Chief Fans!

Your team is better than a 500 team. I would even go, as far to say, that you should be in the playoff hunt, but wow under impressed? What does it take to impress you? LT going for 500 yards, the Defense shutting you out and Herm Edwards giving you a lap dance at the half? Give me a break, you got beat by a better team.....recognize!

The Chargers are obviously really good, but what he said is true.... the Chargers kept the Chiefs in the game and Rivers didn't have much composure. 20-9 should have been 42-9... like we all know, that's what Marty does in December & January... keeps both teams in the game.

And FWIW, I wouldn't hang your hat on 12-2... Indianapolis is only 1.5 games behind that, and Chicago is 12-2.... so that should tell you something.

I actually think there is too much expectations for the Chargers this year. They're the hottest team right now but I think the upcoming years will hold better chances for them when Rivers gets more experience (and playoff experience) under his belt. The main thing going for them this year is that LT is playing out of his mind and they currently have HFA.

I don't know what the expectations are in SD, but I agree that the window is going to be open for a few years, so there's no reason to panic if they don't make it to the SB this year (and with how much the NFC sucks, the AFC Championship will probably be the real SB).

Digital_Madness
12-18-2006, 02:20 PM
Let us put this very nice and clear for you ignorant chiefs fans, the Bolts beat your team and held them to only 3 fg's! LT rushed for 199 yards and 2 TD's, Rivers had an off day but came clutch on that pass to VJ that pretty much sealed the deal for season in that matter! Rivers is a gamer and is only getting better (you clowns realize it's his first season starting right?) yet you pendejos are acting like sore little girls and running away unimpressed?

P.S.

#1 seed is very unimpressing!


(rolling eyes)
take it like a man and recognize true talent when you see it!

the future looks very promising!

Iowanian
12-18-2006, 02:23 PM
The Chiefs had Prison sex with the Bolts in KC.

That high horse you're all riding on now is a Clydesdale.....Be sure you don't take small drinks of the drano and bleach when you're sobbing in your palms realising the bolts are choking in the playoffs.

Congratulations on being such a devoted fan to find your way here to talk shit before the game....oh wait.....you were too busy using your balloon knot for Uncle Tito's pickle garage.


You're raider fans, with weaker smack, less knowledge and uglier mothers.

boltpower 21
12-18-2006, 02:32 PM
The thing about the Chargers this year is that when you shut down LT, Rivers will hurt you. When you shut down Rivers, LT carries the team. The only exception was the Raider game from a few of weeks ago when they were able to stop both LT and Rivers until the fourth quarter.

The Chargers are finding ways to win. I'm not going to prematurely call them a championship team but as the saying goes: championship teams find a way to win. The way the Chargers are playing, they are headed in that direction.

trndobrd
12-18-2006, 02:33 PM
Let us put this very nice and clear for you ignorant chiefs fans, the Bolts beat your team and held them to only 3 fg's! LT rushed for 199 yards and 2 TD's, Rivers had an off day but came clutch on that pass to VJ that pretty much sealed the deal for season in that matter! Rivers is a gamer and is only getting better (you clowns realize it's his first season starting right?) yet you pendejos are acting like sore little girls and running away unimpressed?

P.S.

#1 seed is very unimpressing!


(rolling eyes)
take it like a man and recognize true talent when you see it!

the future looks very promising!



It's almost like looking back at myself when I was young, didn't know any better, and had never seen a Marty chokejob in the playoffs.

Boltbacker_ed
12-18-2006, 02:34 PM
I think you pretty much throw out everything in a divisional game with playoff implications (KC fighting for their playoff lives, SD fighting to hang on to the #1 seed).

Rivers is finally starting to show some bad games. That's not surprising for a first year starting quarterback, it's to be expected.

I thought both defenses played pretty well. Obviously, the Chief's run D couldn't stop LT but they frustrated Rivers all night long. I totally agree both teams played very well on defense. PR had an off day but over all it's all about the win.

Iowanian
12-18-2006, 02:36 PM
And another last minute, post game troll.

We haven't had as many Bolt fans in 4 years as have found their way here today.

Digital_Madness
12-18-2006, 02:37 PM
It's almost like looking back at myself when I was young, didn't know any better, and had never seen a Marty chokejob in the playoffs.


ok...if saying this makes your loss less hurtfull, then yes, Marty ball sucks,he will choke because he choked with your team 500 years ago!


( ROFL

Digital_Madness
12-18-2006, 02:39 PM
And another last minute, post game troll.

We haven't had as many Bolt fans in 4 years as have found their way here today.

:shake:

trndobrd
12-18-2006, 02:40 PM
And another last minute, post game troll.

We haven't had as many Bolt fans in 4 years as have found their way here today.



Don't you remember the flood of Bolts fans that showed up here after they lost at Arrowhead.

Iowanian
12-18-2006, 02:40 PM
Find a post you made this season, prior to today....

Pound your dickhole full of fire ants.

trndobrd
12-18-2006, 02:44 PM
ok...if saying this makes your loss less hurtfull, then yes, Marty ball sucks,he will choke because he choked with your team 500 years ago!


( ROFL


Yesterday's loss is no more hurtful to me than your loss at Arrowhead earlier this season. You might not have been a fan way back then, but I don't recall you appearing on this board after that loss.

#1 seed, great regular season record, good stats. Keep living the Marty dream.

BreesLightning
12-18-2006, 02:48 PM
And another last minute, post game troll.

We haven't had as many Bolt fans in 4 years as have found their way here today.


Maybe it has something to do with you acting like a bunch of b#tches.

Take the loss like a man and give credit were credit is due f#cking sore losers.

It should be easy for you since your used to getting bent over by half the league.

Iowanian
12-18-2006, 02:51 PM
Another one crawls out of the woodwork.

I guess it would be easier if Chief fans were as used to being top 5 draft pick holders as the dolt fans.....well, most of the ones here now don't know what that means.

Come before the game if you want credit, dickholster. As it is, pound sand.

Chiefnj
12-18-2006, 02:51 PM
The Chargers beat a poor Chiefs team whose offense has mailed it in. Congrats.

That doesn't change the fact that the Chargers still have Marty at the helm in the postseason AND have a young QB that looks relatively easy to rattle.

Digital_Madness
12-18-2006, 02:53 PM
The Chargers beat a poor Chiefs team whose offense has mailed it in. Congrats.

That doesn't change the fact that the Chargers still have Marty at the helm in the postseason AND have a young QB that looks relatively easy to rattle.


broken record!

is this you Trent Green?
Iowanian is trent green!

Shamrock
12-18-2006, 02:59 PM
The Bolts won't make it to the big game.



Hi Corn Cob .......

The Bolts will make it to the "big game" and win the damn thing ...


http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/699/chargersyz8.gif

trndobrd
12-18-2006, 03:02 PM
Maybe it has something to do with you acting like a bunch of b#tches.

Take the loss like a man and give credit were credit is due f#cking sore losers.

It should be easy for you since your used to getting bent over by half the league.


Or maybe it has to do with alleged fans with no clue how to show the slightest touch of class signing up on this board the day AFTER the big win to gloat.

This board has always been welcoming of fans from other teams who want to come on and discuss the games beforehand. Many of them visit semi-regularly and are well respected, especially the ones that show back up after the game, win or lose.

I'll give credit where credit is due. However, jackasses that show up on an opposing team board after the game with one whole post and demand that everyone join in their unfettered praise of their team are due absolutely nothing.

Shamrock
12-18-2006, 03:03 PM
Come before the game if you want credit, dickholster. As it is, pound sand.
BTW: I don't want "credit" for anything.

I didn't come in here for the smack session before the game, out of sincere gratitude and respect for one of the greatest owners ever in professional sports.

Without Lamar Hunt there would be no Chiefs or Chargers.

Iowanian
12-18-2006, 03:04 PM
Finally, a bolt fan with history of pre and postgame comment finds his way.

Shamrock, most of your new friends can seriosly take a flying Fug after a rolling dounut, hopefully in heavy traffic.

Purchase Kleenex now.....a heartbreak is coming.


Hi Corn Cob .......

The Bolts will make it to the "big game" and win the damn thing ...





the dolts have some pass protection issues, a qb that doesn't deal well with pressure and a suspect secondary. good luck with that vs good teams.

BreesLightning
12-18-2006, 03:12 PM
Or maybe it has to do with alleged fans with no clue how to show the slightest touch of class signing up on this board the day AFTER the big win to gloat.

This board has always been welcoming of fans from other teams who want to come on and discuss the games beforehand. Many of them visit semi-regularly and are well respected, especially the ones that show back up after the game, win or lose.

I'll give credit where credit is due. However, jackasses that show up on an opposing team board after the game with one whole post and demand that everyone join in their unfettered praise of their team are due absolutely nothing.

How many times are you guys going to say this? Do you idiots ever think to look at a "joined" date before you post this crap?

The KC education system at its finest...

BreesLightning
12-18-2006, 03:15 PM
And by the way, I don't play for the Chargers so you don't have to give me or any other Charger fan out there credit so quit with BS excuses.

Give credit to the team that rolled yours instead of posting all your whining threads.

Iowanian
12-18-2006, 03:16 PM
Can I buy an Earthquake on Ebay?

How about a mudslide?

BreesLightning
12-18-2006, 03:18 PM
Can I buy an Earthquake on Ebay?

How about a mudslide?

I've already ordered you a copy Screech's dirty sanchez tape for christmas.

Now you and the wife can fulfill all your childhood fantasies together.

jersey
12-18-2006, 03:19 PM
Can I buy an Earthquake on Ebay?

How about a mudslide?

Where can I get a tornado? A snow storm? Not having the temperature above 0 for the entire month of January?

Are we really going to start doing weather smack here?

Iowanian
12-18-2006, 03:21 PM
Why don't you go ahead and put that towards your life dream of having George Michael take a dump on your bare chest, nancy.

Iowanian
12-18-2006, 03:22 PM
How about instead we have

"douchebags who weren't here before the game, not talk shit to disgruntled Chiefs fans day" instead.


Where can I get a tornado? A snow storm? Not having the temperature above 0 for the entire month of January?

Are we really going to start doing weather smack here?

Shamrock
12-18-2006, 03:23 PM
Finally, a bolt fan with history of pre and postgame comment finds his way.

Shamrock, most of your new friends can seriosly take a flying Fug after a rolling dounut, hopefully in heavy traffic.

Purchase Kleenex now.....a heartbreak is coming.





the dolts have some pass protection issues, a qb that doesn't deal well with pressure and a suspect secondary. good luck with that vs good teams.

Schematically, the Bolts do have some issues with pass protection. I've been hounding some OL apologists on my main board in regards to the slide protection in our C-G gaps - primarily between Hardwick and my favorite whipping boy, right guard Mike Goff.

Centering the defense is the issue, IMO. Teams have been able to throw an extra man into the middle and create havoc after Hardwick has point of the center of the slide. It also manifested itself (badly) when Gates got solo'd up on Hali. That should never happen.

However, the Squaws have arguably the BEST combination of guards and center in the NFL, yet you were repeatedly subjected to similar blitz issues from our ILB's. Edwards (who had his best game in 3 seasons) and Godfrey came virtually untouched multiple times.

Sliding the protection is difficult, if you are anticipating something that doesn't happen. It either leaves an edge protector with no one to block (which overloads the then weak side of the protection scheme) or it puts a good pass rusher in solo protection on a TE or RB (see Gates vs. Hali).

Rivers has dealt with protection issues and pressure very well this season (see Pittsburgh, Cincy, Donkeys, etc). This game, he didn't. He also was high, wide, low, etc early, even without protection problems. One bad game after a string of good games can be chalked up to the "first year starter" seeing something new and not dealing with it well. It's part of the QB growth.

The CB's played very well, especially Jammer. No INT's for him, but several pass defensed, blanket coverage, and he displayed again why he's the best tackling CB in the NFL. Our safeties limited Gonzo, after a string of games vs KC where he was basically uncoverable (is that a word?).

Merriman is nursing a sore foot, and wasn't as effective as usual. Still, our front seven rocked KC's world for most of the game. The few rushing successes the Squaws had were mostly when Jamal Williams was getting a breather.

Every team has weaknesses. Every team tries to hide those issues, and every opponent tries to exploit them. The Chargers are the closest to be a "complete" team. Nothing is easy, but this team will make it to the Super Bowl and win it.

BTW: The freaking Donkeys are now the 6th seed .... last wild card. I'd love to have the chance to beat them for a third time this season. : :)

trndobrd
12-18-2006, 03:27 PM
How many times are you guys going to say this? Do you idiots ever think to look at a "joined" date before you post this crap?

The KC education system at its finest...


Yes, I can read "joined" dates. I can also see that before your post at 10:34pm last night your last post was Oct 15, 2006 and the one before that was November 2005.

Where were you when your team got rolled? Didn't see a flood of posts.

tk13
12-18-2006, 03:31 PM
You Charger fans aren't gonna get any validation yet. I agree, I think you guys look like you have the best team in football. But you aren't getting any validation in the regular season. Nor should you. I think Marty has had the best team in football, or at least in the AFC, on more than one occasion. He has to go do something with it though. I think this is one of his best chances... and if he does it, I'll tip my hat and say congratulations, you earned it. But until then, Marty has to go prove it.

trndobrd
12-18-2006, 03:33 PM
The CB's played very well, especially Jammer. No INT's for him, but several pass defensed, blanket coverage, and he displayed again why he's the best tackling CB in the NFL. Our safeties limited Gonzo, after a string of games vs KC where he was basically uncoverable (is that a word?).




This was a huge problem for KC. Especially when combined with the KC receivers dropping the few passes they were open for.

Skip Towne
12-18-2006, 03:41 PM
The Chargers have as good a chance to win it all as anyone. They scored on 6 consecutive possessions against Cincy to pull that game out then hung 48 points on the vaunted Donk Defense. Marty is still evolving. He is a work in progress. How'd ya like that fake punt early in the first quarter? Not really that conservative. Herm would have to gather his courage for three years to pull something like that.

htismaqe
12-18-2006, 03:43 PM
The Chargers have as good a chance to win it all as anyone. They scored on 6 consecutive possessions against Cincy to pull that game out then hung 48 points on the vaunted Donk Defense. Marty is still evolving. He is a work in progress. How'd ya like that fake punt early in the first quarter? Not really that conservative. Herm would have to gather his courage for three years to pull something like that.

The fake punt has always been in Marty's bag. Going for it on 4th down doesn't make a coach progressive.

StcChief
12-18-2006, 03:43 PM
The Chargers have as good a chance to win it all as anyone. They scored on 6 consecutive possessions against Cincy to pull that game out then hung 48 points on the vaunted Donk Defense. Marty is still evolving. He is a work in progress. How'd ya like that fake punt early in the first quarter? Not really that conservative. Herm would have to gather his courage for three years to pull something like that.

Marty (or the OC) really surprised Chiefs and me.....

That was the 'anti-Marty' play.

tk13
12-18-2006, 03:50 PM
The thing is, we all heard this line back in '04... Marty had changed... he has Brees and Tomlinson now, it's a high flying offense, Martyball is dead, yadda yadda. And they still lost in the playoffs. I do think their defense is better now, but I'm interested in seeing what Marty does late in a close game with a 1st year starting QB. He could change, Cowher did it last year, he came out slinging it against the Colts and Broncos. I think it is very possible, but I'm not giving him credit for it until it happens.

Skip Towne
12-18-2006, 04:01 PM
Marty (or the OC) really surprised Chiefs and me.....

That was the 'anti-Marty' play.
I've seen Marty go for it on 4th down several times while just inside the opponent's territory since e's been in SD. He also airs it out much more than he ever did here. I seriously doubt he'll ever depend on a kicker again after the :Lin: experience. And probably more things that I haven't seen. This whole thing reminds me of the argument Milkman and I had over Phil Mickelson ever winning a major. He contended he never would win one "because he never had". Mickelson then promptly won two majors.

tk13
12-18-2006, 04:05 PM
I've seen Marty go for it on 4th down several times while just inside the opponent's territory since e's been in SD. He also airs it out much more than he ever did here. I seriously doubt he'll ever depend on a kicker again after the :Lin: experience. And probably more things that I haven't seen. This whole thing reminds me of the argument Milkman and I had over Phil Mickelson ever winning a major. He contended he never would win one "because he never had". Mickelson then promptly won two majors.
People said that two years ago... he had the 3rd ranked offense in football.... and he got in the playoffs and still put it on the foot of a rookie kicker on a wet field.

Skip Towne
12-18-2006, 04:38 PM
People said that two years ago... he had the 3rd ranked offense in football.... and he got in the playoffs and still put it on the foot of a rookie kicker on a wet field.
He was in his third year then and didn't have nearly the powerful team he has now. Sometimes you take chances you don't want to take for reasons such as that. Now, he has an offense he KNOWS can put up points and a defense he KNOWS can shut down other teams. So he isn't forced to take chances like that now. Marty himself said he's always wanted to throw the ball but never had the personnel to do it. He still lacks receivers but I'll bet he fixes that prior to next year. This is his 5th year in SD. It takes that long to build a team especially with free agency like it is. This post is too long but I want to say one more thing then I'll just hide and watch. Everybody knows the odds of a coin flip coming up either heads or tails is 50-50. So if you flip 9 straight heads, what are the odds now of flipping another heads? Yep, still 50-50. The past has nothing to do with the future in that instance. If Marty was making the same mistakes over and over I would tend to go with the "he never will because he never has" crowd. But he isn't. His teams just get better and better. At least they have to this point. You don't win 200 NFL games by being a dumbass.

htismaqe
12-18-2006, 04:41 PM
If Marty was making the same mistakes over and over I would tend to go with the "he never will because he never has" crowd. But he isn't. His teams just get better and better. At least they have to this point. You don't win 200 NFL games by being a dumbass.

The problem is that you don't have the correct data set to prove the above statement.

And you won't have it until the playoffs happen.

Marty has showed these regular season stripes before, as recently as 2004. And once again, in the playoffs, he shit his bed.

You simply cannot say Marty has changed until he proves it IN THE PLAYOFFS.

Chiefnj
12-18-2006, 04:46 PM
Htis is correct. Marty opened it up a bunch in 2004 only to revert to Martyball in the playoff game against the Jets. I recall watching the game and saying to myself "Marty won't make the same mistakes twice, he'll stay aggressive. Oh my God, he's sitting on the ball content to try a long field goal. He can't be that dumb, can he? Won't he ever learn?"

Marty is Charlie Brown.

postscript: What was even funnier was watching Herm pull a Marty a week later and not learning from it.

tk13
12-18-2006, 04:53 PM
Well, I think Kaeding is better now. That is one good thing in their favor. I don't have a problem with putting a game on your kicker's foot. Belichick won a lot games with Vinatieri... but Marty has done it with kickers who were struggling/in bad conditions. The unnamed kicker was kicking horribly before that playoff game against the Colts... then last time, Kaeding was a rookie, and the field was wet and slippery.

siberian khatru
12-18-2006, 05:01 PM
You Charger fans aren't gonna get any validation yet. I agree, I think you guys look like you have the best team in football. But you aren't getting any validation in the regular season. Nor should you. I think Marty has had the best team in football, or at least in the AFC, on more than one occasion. He has to go do something with it though. I think this is one of his best chances... and if he does it, I'll tip my hat and say congratulations, you earned it. But until then, Marty has to go prove it.

I remember feeling like they did, back in the 90s.

1995: Nation is skeptical of Chiefs. Me: "But, but, we're 13-3! We have homefield!"

1997: Nation is skeptical of Chiefs. Me: "But, but, this time is different! Our defense is dominant! And no way we'll choke 13-3 again!"

I learned my lesson.

I understand, Bolt fans. You're excited. But so long as Marty is your coach, the world demands that he prove it when it counts.

Skip Towne
12-18-2006, 05:14 PM
The problem is that you don't have the correct data set to prove the above statement.

And you won't have it until the playoffs happen.

Marty has showed these regular season stripes before, as recently as 2004. And once again, in the playoffs, he shit his bed.

You simply cannot say Marty has changed until he proves it IN THE PLAYOFFS.
Something you want to ignore is that Marty didn't miss those field goals. And he didn't commit THE FUMBLE. The coach can only prepare a team for an event. The players must execute the plan. Even though THE FUMBLE happened years ago, Marty is still a protect the ball nut. Remember Seattle Week when he was here? He would walk around the practice field and knock the ball out of the hands of anyone who was holding one. (I never did know why that was Seattle week). The point is, he learns from his mistakes and addresses the problem. Like my HS basketball coach used to say "Make all the mistakes you want just don't make the same one twice. I think Marty understands that. We could argue about this till he loses but I have never been one to argue intangibles. And I don't want to now. I just believe he has evolved as a coach and I'm just stating why I think so. I'm not Hootie just pulling shit out of my ass. I'd love to know what Marty's points per game(scored) average was during his tenure with us. Then compare that to what he has this year. Unless I'm way off, he's got room to make some mistakes now that he's never had before. The same was true of Mickelson. Yes he failed to win something like 49 straight majors but he kept finishing higher and higher until he broke through. Even the sports writers gave up on him while this went on. Could Marty lose his first playoff game? Sure. Could he win the SB? Sure, at least it is much more likely to happen now than at any time in his past.

Calcountry
12-18-2006, 06:02 PM
Well, I think Kaeding is better now. That is one good thing in their favor. I don't have a problem with putting a game on your kicker's foot. Belichick won a lot games with Vinatieri... but Marty has done it with kickers who were struggling/in bad conditions. The unnamed kicker was kicking horribly before that playoff game against the Colts... then last time, Kaeding was a rookie, and the field was wet and slippery.So horribly he was kicking, that I was screaming at the TV for them to poll the entire team for any HS place kicking experience, and absent that, let the punter try one.

Calcountry
12-18-2006, 06:04 PM
The problem is that you don't have the correct data set to prove the above statement.

And you won't have it until the playoffs happen.

Marty has showed these regular season stripes before, as recently as 2004. And once again, in the playoffs, he shit his bed.

You simply cannot say Marty has changed until he proves it IN THE PLAYOFFS.Only Montana and Marcus changed Marty's playoff expertise.

4rth and goal from the one wasn't an automatic field goal call when you had Marcus.

tk13
12-18-2006, 06:07 PM
I remember feeling like they did, back in the 90s.

1995: Nation is skeptical of Chiefs. Me: "But, but, we're 13-3! We have homefield!"

1997: Nation is skeptical of Chiefs. Me: "But, but, this time is different! Our defense is dominant! And no way we'll choke 13-3 again!"

I learned my lesson.

I understand, Bolt fans. You're excited. But so long as Marty is your coach, the world demands that he prove it when it counts.
Yeah, I thought the 95 team was going to the Super Bowl. I was so sure of it. The 97 team, I thought we were good, but I thought it was gonna be a war with Denver... if we survived that, nothing was gonna stop us. Yeah.

kotong
12-18-2006, 06:18 PM
I think the Bolts will bring home the bacon.

Your D played excellent rattling Rivers, although 3 of our wides were out: Parker, Floyd and McCardell. These 3 should be ready to play in the PO (thanks to that first round bye). As Madden said last night, "teams are now focusing more on Rivers unlike they used to." Rivers's true worth can be seen in the PO when he dominates in the pass rush. Cam Cameron will have a few surprises for whichever sorry team comes to San Diego...and yes, Marty DOESN'T call the plays anymore!

By the way, San Diego thanks Tamba for "Halitosising." Does SOFT equal 270 rushing yards?

Happy fishing!

LOL.

trndobrd
12-18-2006, 06:46 PM
I think the Bolts will bring home the bacon.

Your D played excellent rattling Rivers, although 3 of our wides were out: Parker, Floyd and McCardell. These 3 should be ready to play in the PO (thanks to that first round bye). As Madden said last night, "teams are now focusing more on Rivers unlike they used to." Rivers true worth can be seen in the PO when he dominates in the pass rush. Cam Cameron will have a few surprises for whichever sorry team comes to San Diego.

By the way, San Diego thanks Tamba for "Halitosising." Does SOFT equal 270 rushing yards?

Happy fishing!

LOL.


Nice to see you made it back for your annual stop in at the Planet.

What on earth makes you think Marty is going to let Rivers throw the ball in a playoff game?

kotong
12-18-2006, 07:22 PM
Nice to see you made it back for your annual stop in at the Planet.

What on earth makes you think Marty is going to let Rivers throw the ball in a playoff game?
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Marty DOESN'T call the plays anymore, Cam Cameron does.

SAN DIEGO The San Diego Chargers are a whole lot of good with what appears to be the right amount of lucky.

More than anything else, however, they are a whole lot different than any team Marty Schottenheimer has ever coached. Or maybe it's just that Schottenheimer is a whole lot different than he has ever been, as a 20-9 victory over the Kansas City Chiefs on Sunday night showed.

From a fake punt in the first quarter to a long pass in the final minutes of the game, Schottenheimer continued to play fast and loose. Assuming this continues, the Chargers' highlight video for 2006 might be called "Marty Gone Wild."

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-newmarty121706&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Ugly Duck
12-18-2006, 08:29 PM
Hmmm... a Chiefs-bashing newbie with an "honest chiefs fan" moniker - insinuating that Chiefs supporters are dishonest. A Chiefs-bashing newbie that slobs all over Charger knob, kisses the Bolt coach butt, & wishes them luck. It almost sorta kinda seems like maybe he's really a BoltFan pretending to be a ChiefsFan. It just sorta kinda maybe sorta seems that way.

Boltjolt
12-18-2006, 11:21 PM
The Bolts won't make it to the big game.

The QB is inconsistent, their Oline is suspect and their secondary is average.

I think they'd beat Indy due to their running game, but Balt, NE and maybe Cinci would beat them.

I hope the new bandwagon fans really buy in and the burn is deep when its over.

Who knows but i like our chances.

We have already beat Cincinnati
Outplayed Baltimore all day but Marty went very conservative in the 2nd half and we threw only 4 times till the last gasp drive....that was the 3rd game of the season.

Im not really that worried about Baltimore. We willl have them at home this time.

The Patriots always step up...should be a good one if we face them.

I keep reading that Rivers is inconsistant but he has only had two bad games all year. He has been fantastic for a first year starter and his rating is still 91 with yesterdays bad game.

Dont know why Olivea ran his trap...he is our weakest link on the OL if you ask me.

Sure we only scored 20 yesterday, but it was a division rival game who HAD TO WIN t keep their playoff hopes alive. We still won it and didnt give up a TD.

You guys have a good team but its obvious that Green has to be replaced. Im curious.....who do you guys like? Croyle to take over or keep Huard. Maybe draft another QB?

I like Croyle but the guy was an injury waiting to happen in college.

Sure-Oz
12-18-2006, 11:23 PM
WE have alot of holes. Green is the present and not the future. That said, he could probably do 1 more year if not 2. But none of our QB's will do anything without a re-vamped line. ughh

Halfcan
12-18-2006, 11:27 PM
Here is how the SD Playoff game will go...

Rivers 17/ 28 3 Ints
Keading 4/5 misses easy one
LT- fumbles inside the red zone-first ever
Marty-tries to be sneaky to change his boorish image and it backfires costing a chance at some points.

Chargers Defense gets tested for roids and half fail.

One and done!