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BIG_DADDY
12-19-2006, 02:58 PM
Wow they paid through the teeth for him. Maybe he can bitch slap Mr. Hit and Run while he's there.


Iverson traded by 76ers to Nuggets

By DAN GELSTON, AP Sports Writer
December 19, 2006

PHILADELPHIA (AP) -- Allen Iverson was traded by the 76ers to the Denver Nuggets, a person in the NBA with knowledge of the deal told The Associated Press.

The official, speaking on condition of anonymity because the deal was not announced, did not know the terms of the deal.

ESPN.com said the trade would send Andre Miller, Joe Smith and two 2007 first-round picks to the 76ers for Iverson and perhaps another minimum-salaried player or two.

The trade brings an end to 10 turbulent seasons with the franchise that made him the No. 1 overall pick in 1996.

Iverson, a seven-time All-Star and four-time scoring champion, transformed the Sixers from lottery losers to contenders, though he couldn't bring home an NBA title to this championship-starved city. He came close in 2001, when the 76ers lost to the Los Angeles Lakers in the NBA finals, but since then the team has fallen from the elite, missing the playoffs twice in the last three seasons.

Now the 31-year-old Iverson's chase for a coveted championship will continue in Denver.

Iverson's relationship with the only team he's ever played for was irreversibly broken once he asked for a trade last week. Iverson had just been fined for missing a team function and his relationship with coach Maurice Cheeks had deteriorated to where the cornrowed point guard didn't want to play for him anymore.

The Sixers sent Iverson home for good nearly two weeks ago after holding him out of a morning shootaround. Chairman Ed Snider said then the All-Star guard had "probably" played his last game in Philly. His nameplate was removed, his locker was cleaned out, and his dazzling highlights were edited out of a pregame video package.

Only Memphis (5-19) has a worse record than the 76ers (5-18), who are winless since Nov. 24.

No matter the drama in Iverson's personal life, it rarely affected his performance on the court. Even this season, with Iverson unhappy and the Sixers stuck in last place, he still leads the league in scoring with 31.2 points, averaged 42.7 minutes and 2.2 steals.

He's averaging 28.1 points, 6.1 assists and 2.3 steals in 697 career games. Iverson scored a career-high 60 points against Orlando on Feb. 12, 2005.

But as dynamic Iverson was, and as thrilling as it could be to watch the 6-foot tattooed bundle of energy play, only twice did he lead the Sixers out of the second round of the playoffs. And Philadelphia was only a modest 355-342 (.509 winning percentage) with Iverson in the lineup for regular-season games.

At his best, he has been the ultimate gamer; a hustling, hard-charging MVP who became one of the most popular players in the league and his No. 3 jersey was always one of the top sellers.

Only Minnesota's Kevin Garnett has been with one team longer than Iverson among active players.

For as much as he thrilled the Sixers on the court, he gave them nearly as many headaches off it.

With his rants about practice, his run-ins with former coach Larry Brown, his arrests and failed rap career, Iverson was often a magnet for trouble away from the court.

Iverson and Brown were a volcanic combination during the six seasons they spent together in Philly. Brown criticized Iverson for taking too many shots and accused him of being selfish at times.

Iverson often arrived late for practice or missed practices for various reasons. In one infamous blowup at the end of the 2002 season he repeated "talking about practice" nearly 20 times during a rambling monologue. He now pokes fun at the memorable meltdown.

Brown and Iverson eventually reconciled and Brown named his former guard co-captain of the 2004 United States Olympic men's basketball team.

He often was labeled as being too selfish, that the Sixers played team ball without him, and that his all-out style means he's going to wear out sooner than later. Now the Sixers will see if they can win with an offense primarily built around veteran Chris Webber and his achy knees.

Iverson has shown few signs of slowing down, always ricocheting around the court like a pinball and slamming to the court after every basket. He had 15 40-plus point games in 2005-06, including his 10th-career 50-point game.

Iverson's name was always in trade rumors, but the guard out of Georgetown nicknamed "The Answer," has always publicly stated he wanted to end his career in Philadelphia. He's due the rest of his $18 million this season, and a combined $40 million through the 2008-09 season.

I truly wanted to retire a 76er," Iverson said Friday. "I appreciate that in my 11 years in Philadelphia, the fans have always stood by me, supported me, and gone to bat for me."

Iverson's years in Philadelphia were marred by arrests in 1997 for carrying a concealed weapon and for possession of marijuana and in 2002 over a domestic dispute with his wife. He was sentenced to community service in 1997 and all charges dropped against him five years later.

Iverson also never released his rap album, which drew criticism from civil rights groups and earned him a reprimand from NBA commissioner David Stern because of its offensive lyrics.

While Iverson's maybe a half-step slower than he was 10 years ago, that's still a step quicker than most players in the league. He still was too quick to guard 1-on-1 and beat teams with the same killer crossover he once used in his rookie season that dusted Michael Jordan.

Perhaps in Denver, he won't have to shoulder the scoring load like he always did in Philadelphia. He had little success playing with a legitimate No. 2 scorer, with Glen Robinson, Jerry Stackhouse, and Tim Thomas among a slew of players brought in that underachieved or never fit in while trying to find consistent shots with Iverson still running the show.

The Sixers can only hope trading this superstar doesn't end up as lopsided as their last two franchise-shifting deals. No one in Philly can forget the Sixers only getting Jeff Hornacek, Andrew Lang and Tim Perry for Charles Barkley in 1992. And the Sixers traded Wilt Chamberlain to the Lakers in 1968 for Jerry Chambers, Archie Clark and Darrall Imhoff.

Mecca
12-19-2006, 03:05 PM
Actually for a player of Iversons caliber it's a great deal. He replaces Miller and Joe Smith isn't important to them......draft picks in the NBA are overrated unless they're lottery picks.

I think it's a great deal for them now they have 2 premier players and a couple really solid ones after that, makes them a real contender now.

BIG_DADDY
12-19-2006, 03:10 PM
Actually for a player of Iversons caliber it's a great deal. He replaces Miller and Joe Smith isn't important to them......draft picks in the NBA are overrated unless they're lottery picks.

I think it's a great deal for them now they have 2 premier players and a couple really solid ones after that, makes them a real contender now.

Enough ball to go around?

Pitt Gorilla
12-19-2006, 03:11 PM
This should be a great deal for the Nuggs.

Mecca
12-19-2006, 03:11 PM
Enough ball to go around?

I think after the decade in Philly Iverson just wants to win.....I don't think it'll be a problem.

Chiefs Pantalones
12-19-2006, 03:13 PM
This isn't appealing.

The Nuggets aren't a sexy team, and Melo is overrated.

BIG_DADDY
12-19-2006, 03:18 PM
This isn't appealing.

The Nuggets aren't a sexy team, and Melo is overrated.

Iverson should be able to hold them together while Mr. Hit and Run is out. It will interesting to watch how this goes down. More talent to the West, gotta love that.

siberian khatru
12-19-2006, 03:19 PM
Great headline on the thread!

Mecca
12-19-2006, 03:19 PM
This isn't appealing.

The Nuggets aren't a sexy team, and Melo is overrated.

You don't think a team with a young star and a vet star is a "sexy team"?

Chiefs Pantalones
12-19-2006, 03:25 PM
You don't think a team with a young star and a vet star is a "sexy team"?

Since when has Melo arrived?

I forgot about him until his thug "meet me at the mall, it's goin' downnnn" fight the other night.

Mecca
12-19-2006, 03:26 PM
Since when has Melo arrived?

I forgot about him until his thug "meet me at the mall, it's goin' downnnn" fight the other night.

Yea I mean he sucks so bad he's only leading the league in scoring.......

Woodrow Call
12-19-2006, 03:28 PM
Good deal for both teams.

BIG_DADDY
12-19-2006, 03:29 PM
Yea I mean he sucks so bad he's only leading the league in scoring.......


WAS leading the league in scoring before he became Mr. Hit & Run. LMAO NOw with Allen there I am sure that number will go down when he comes back.

Mecca
12-19-2006, 03:29 PM
WAS leading the league in scoring before he became Mr. Hit & Run. LMAO

Well he'll still be first in PPG.

BIG_DADDY
12-19-2006, 03:34 PM
Great headline on the thread!

You know what's funny is MOJO who posts here sometimes was watching the Donx play the Chiefs at a bar and there was a group of girls there who were rooting for the Donko's. He asked them why they liked Denver and they said they went there a few months ago and just fell in love with the city and two of them had accepted jobs and were in the process of moving there. He said moving to Dog Killing Country huh, hope you don't have a dog. Turns out one of them has a pit bull. I guess she got pretty upset.

BIG_DADDY
12-19-2006, 03:34 PM
Well he'll still be first in PPG.

Not with Allen there, he won't even have the most on his own team.

Mecca
12-19-2006, 03:36 PM
Not with Allen there, he won't even have the most on his own team.

We'll see Iverson has played his whole career with nothing but scrubs....I think they'll be alright.

carter08
12-19-2006, 03:37 PM
This isn't unexpected after Melo's suspension

BIG_DADDY
12-19-2006, 03:42 PM
On a seperate note what's up with the Wizards uni's? First they take a really cool name like the Bullets and trade it in for a really gay name like the Wizards. Now they have uni's that look like they came off the set of a Harry Potter movie.

Mecca
12-19-2006, 03:42 PM
On a seperate note what's up with the Wizards uni's? First they take a really cool name like the Bullets and trade it in for a really gay name like the Wizards. Now they have uni's that look like they came off the set of a Harry Potter movie.

Well they changed their name because DC was the most violent city at the time and they felt it was offensive to have that name in a violent city.

BIG_DADDY
12-19-2006, 03:46 PM
Well they changed their name because DC was the most violent city at the time and they felt it was offensive to have that name in a violent city.

Well they did the PC thing, they made it as gay as possible. LMAO

Mr. Laz
12-19-2006, 04:01 PM
i think they should round up a bunch of gay people and make a dog hit squad.


it would be interesting to see BD's brain explode

ROYC75
12-19-2006, 04:05 PM
DAMN, I wanted him to go to the Lakers, that way I can have a bigger reason to hate him more..............

chiefqueen
12-19-2006, 04:05 PM
Iverson should be able to hold them together while Mr. Hit and Backpeddle is out. It will interesting to watch how this goes down. More talent to the West, gotta love that.

FYP

BIG_DADDY
12-19-2006, 04:07 PM
i think they should round up a bunch of gay people and make a dog hit squad.


it would be interesting to see BD's brain explode

OK Pussy Cat Man. :)

Pitt Gorilla
12-19-2006, 04:13 PM
DAMN, I wanted him to go to the Lakers, that way I can have a bigger reason to hate him more..............Man, it's hard not to like Iverson's game; the guy plays hard all the time.

ROYC75
12-19-2006, 04:17 PM
Man, it's hard not to like Iverson's game; the guy plays hard all the time.

The guy plays balls to the wall, I have never not liked his effort on the court, game time that is. Off court, his demeanor, the way he conducts himself like a punk ass bitch, thug , etc.

Different than T.O., but in the same line, a wonderful talent, but a me 1st type of guy.

Mecca
12-19-2006, 04:18 PM
The guy plays balls to the wall, I have never not liked his effort on the court, game time that is. Off court, his demeanor, the way he conducts himself like a punk ass bitch, thug , etc.

Different than T.O., but in the same line, a wonderful talent, but a me 1st type of guy.

I knew that was coming.........apparently everyone in the NBA is an assumed thug.

Mr. Laz
12-19-2006, 04:25 PM
OK Pussy Cat Man. :)
meow :p

ROYC75
12-19-2006, 04:32 PM
I knew that was coming.........apparently everyone in the NBA is an assumed thug.


Hey, If the shoe fits, wear it ............. The day Stern can get the thugs back out of NBA is the day I might start watching it again.

FTR, I getting fed up with the thugs in college basketball too.

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-19-2006, 05:13 PM
If anyone thinks a guy who is leading the league in scoring while shooting at the clip that Carmelo is, is overrated, they are completely full of shit. Quit trying to draw attention to yourself and actually look at the numbers the guy puts up on the court.

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-19-2006, 05:14 PM
Hey, If the shoe fits, wear it ............. The day Stern can get the thugs back out of NBA is the day I might start watching it again.

FTR, I getting fed up with the thugs in college basketball too.

Funny how you still watch the NFL every Sunday despite multiple felons, drug traffickers, and murderers who have come through their ranks. The NBA is pristine in comparison. Get off your high horse.

Halfcan
12-19-2006, 05:15 PM
Thug Iverson is a great player but a cancer to his team. Sounds like Phillie got the best end of that deal.

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-19-2006, 05:16 PM
Ray Lewis: Indicted for Murder
Rae Carruth: Convicted of Murder
Ken Hamlin: Starts fight outside club, gets his skull bashed in w/ a stop sign
Chris Henry: Arrested four times in one year
Tank Johnson: Caught w/ 6 unregistered guns, arrested 3 times...day after latest arrest is at a night club w/ best friend who gets in an altercation and is shot to death
Pac Man Jones: Caught in Drug Trafficking ring
Jamal Lewis: Did time for brokering a Cocaine Deal
Nate Newton
Bam Morris
Tamarick Vanover


Should I keep going?

Mecca
12-19-2006, 05:18 PM
Thug Iverson is a great player but a cancer to his team. Sounds like Phillie got the best end of that deal.

He was the only good player on that team.........he's not a cancer it's just hard to win by yourself.

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-19-2006, 05:22 PM
Thug Iverson is a great player but a cancer to his team. Sounds like Phillie got the best end of that deal.

The biggest cancer they had on that team was Chris Webber.

Ebolapox
12-19-2006, 05:26 PM
The guy plays balls to the wall, I have never not liked his effort on the court, game time that is. Off court, his demeanor, the way he conducts himself like a punk ass bitch, thug , etc.

Different than T.O., but in the same line, a wonderful talent, but a me 1st type of guy.

other than releasing a rap album (wait, it was never officially released), what has he done to act like a punkass thug?

he gives to charities... he is never in trouble with the law... he is a pillar of his community...

hell, I like to tell myself that racism isn't around anymore in this country--but apparently, fifty years ago AI would've been upside down with a fork up his ass, eh roy?

Taco John
12-19-2006, 05:36 PM
other than releasing a rap album (wait, it was never officially released), what has he done to act like a punkass thug?

he gives to charities... he is never in trouble with the law... he is a pillar of his community...

hell, I like to tell myself that racism isn't around anymore in this country--but apparently, fifty years ago AI would've been upside down with a fork up his ass, eh roy?



You mean pulling a gun on his woman and sending her out into the streets naked doesn't count as being in trouble with the law and acting like a punk assed thug.

I didn't think stupidity was around anymore in this country... Oh wait. I've always know it.

Ebolapox
12-19-2006, 05:41 PM
You mean pulling a gun on his woman and sending her out into the streets naked doesn't count as being in trouble with the law and acting like a punk assed thug.

I didn't think stupidity was around anymore in this country... Oh wait. I've always know it.

it's funny, you pulling the stupidity card... yet you support a team that's cheated the salary cap and sports a team with offensive linemen who have intentionally ended people's careers...

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-19-2006, 05:41 PM
You mean pulling a gun on his woman and sending her out into the streets naked doesn't count as being in trouble with the law and acting like a punk assed thug.

I didn't think stupidity was around anymore in this country... Oh wait. I've always know it.

Get off your f*cking high horse, you dumb motherf*cker. You operate a message board that facilitates discussion for a team in a sport with far worse offenders. It's not even close. If you want to ride the moral high ground here, then shut down your mickey mouse operation and jam an oar up your ass. Until then, STFU.

Ebolapox
12-19-2006, 05:43 PM
and FTR, I'm not defending iverson's actions if he DID what taco john said he did--I don't recall that incident, but apparently , he must not have been convicted...

however, that opens up a new can of worms... can we dig on a guy even if he wasn't convicted?? sure ya can-- but neither of us was THERE when it happened... so who's to say if it did in fact happen

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-19-2006, 05:46 PM
and FTR, I'm not defending iverson's actions if he DID what taco john said he did--I don't recall that incident, but apparently , he must not have been convicted...

however, that opens up a new can of worms... can we dig on a guy even if he wasn't convicted?? sure ya can-- but neither of us was THERE when it happened... so who's to say if it did in fact happen

Well, the worst thing Iverson did was bludgeon a guy with a bowling pin during a brawl, but if someone wants to play the "NBA Players are Thugs" card, they should have forfeited their NFL fandom long, long before.

Mecca
12-19-2006, 05:47 PM
I think Iversons done more good than bad in the overall spectrum of things.

Halfcan
12-19-2006, 06:11 PM
I think Iversons done more good than bad in the overall spectrum of things.

He did just pay for that kids funeral-that was a class act. I think in his younger days he was a bit out of control-but now he wants to win a Championship to secure his legacy. Everyone deserves a second chance, if Miss America gets one, Allen should too.

One thing you can't question is his talent.

BWillie
12-19-2006, 09:01 PM
Iverson is a great player. He's underrated and alot of people hate him just because of his ghetto persona. A top 5 player no doubt. What was really a slap on the face to him is when they didn't even ask him to be on the olympic team. What were they thinking? Kirk Hinrich or Allen Iverson?? Hmmmm. And I'm even a KU fan. Iverson was dying to be on that team, he even made it publically announced he was looking forward to playing for USA and they snubbed him.

I don't think people realize how amazing it is for a guy that is 5-11 165 to score 31 a game and to dish out 8 assists per game. The guy deserves a shot. He immediately makes Denver one of the Top 5 teams in the NBA in my opinion.

DenverChief
12-19-2006, 11:06 PM
Since when has Melo arrived?

I forgot about him


Only the LEAGUE LEADER IN SCORING...shows how much you pay attention

Rain Man
12-20-2006, 09:42 AM
They just welcomed Iverson to Denver with a 21 dog-shooting salute.

Taco John
12-20-2006, 01:24 PM
it's funny, you pulling the stupidity card... yet you support a team that's cheated the salary cap and sports a team with offensive linemen who have intentionally ended people's careers...



What are you talking about? There has been zero career's ended by our offensive line. And the Broncos offensive line has nothing to do with Iverson breaking into apartments carrying a concealed weapon.

listopencil
12-20-2006, 01:36 PM
I'd like to see all of the NBA players in a cage match fight to the death with hand to hand weapons. Then shoot the guy that comes out of the cage.

Chiefs Pantalones
12-20-2006, 01:43 PM
Only the LEAGUE LEADER IN SCORING...shows how much you pay attention

Talk to me at the end of the season, and we'll see how he's doing then.

Either way, he hasn't lived up to the hype. He's not on LeBron or Wade's level.

runnercyclist
12-20-2006, 05:47 PM
Talk to me at the end of the season, and we'll see how he's doing then.

Either way, he hasn't lived up to the hype. He's not on LeBron or Wade's level.

Or Steve Nash. Back to back to back MVP!