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T-post Tom
12-30-2006, 12:13 AM
Trent Green has been hinting around in recent interviews that he and the other offensive players prefer the Vermeil/Saunders version of offense over the Edwards/Solari version. L.J. was a little less subtle in his comments to the media, literally bashing the offensive braintrust at 1 Arrowhead Drive. Other players have been letting similar feelings slip out in interviews. Is there a revolt brewing? If so, will it have an impact on the contracts for Gonzo & other offensive players? Would a premier WR want to come here with the current play-calling?

I know most players are about the $$, but this offense has to be less attractive to offensive players than it was under the former coaching staff. Are the Chiefs going to have to overpay for talent now, like the Royals? Possible $15M signing bonus & $5M per year for an over 30 TE? Hmmmm.... Love Gonzo, but I hope they don't butcher free agency to overpay him.

All that said, any chance the Chiefs revamp the playbook next year? Open things up a little? My fingers are crossed.

Direckshun
12-30-2006, 12:18 AM
To answer your questions in order:

Not a "revolt" but a reasonable reworking, N/A, not with the current plan but the plan's going to change, every NFL player is overpaid, Gonzo will get what he deserves and the Chiefs will simply have to pay to keep him, yes they will, yes they will.

KurtCobain
12-30-2006, 12:55 AM
solari sucks. edwards sucks. we need damon huard calling the shots.

GROB
12-30-2006, 09:17 AM
There is a conflict between diaper boy and TrINT. TrINT can't relate to Sperm like diaper boy can and vice versa for TrINT's brokeback mountain partner Dick V.

Bowser
12-30-2006, 10:05 AM
There is a conflict between diaper boy and TrINT. TrINT can't relate to Sperm like diaper boy can and vice versa for TrINT's brokeback mountain partner Dick V.

Keep your homo fantasies to yourself.

Alphaman
12-30-2006, 10:11 AM
To answer your questions in order:

Not a "revolt" but a reasonable reworking, N/A, not with the current plan but the plan's going to change, every NFL player is overpaid, Gonzo will get what he deserves and the Chiefs will simply have to pay to keep him, yes they will, yes they will.

I'm inclined to agree. I think a tweaking is all that is needed. If the Chiefs would use the pass to set up the run early in the game (ala Philly and Pittsburgh) they could get back to an explosive offense. We just need to loosen defenses up a bit. We need WRs who can catch short passes and get 5 to 10 yards after the catch.

Bowser
12-30-2006, 10:16 AM
The Chiefs need to get an above average left tackle to make this offense run the way it should. We've survived without the big named wide receivers, but with no decent left tackle, our offense sputters.

And it will help to not have our QB get knocked the f*ck out right out of the gates.

Reerun_KC
12-30-2006, 10:31 AM
Well if they revolt would you blame them? yeah they are overpaid guys playing a game. But at some point you have to call a spade a spade.


Our offense sputters for serveral reasons... Our braintrust really thought Roaf was coming back when everyone in American and Argentina knew that Roaf was done..

Run, Run, Pass on 3rd and long, isnt very smart football. Why do they continue to just run into a brick wall each game?

Thing is, we just dont have the brainpower between the headsets on game day to have a sucessful football team..

NewChief
12-30-2006, 11:04 AM
They really just need to make things less predictable. My understanding:

Solari finds something that works, and he goes back to the well again and again, repeating that play or formation. When Saunders found something that worked well, he would put it away for 4 games, then bring it back out.

The Donnie Edwards interception in San Diego was a direct result of predictability. Evidently, the Chargers had studied film on the Chiefs' situational playcalling and (correctly) predicted that pass would be the call on that down. Thus Donnie had made a break on the ball before it was even thrown.

Reerun_KC
12-30-2006, 11:09 AM
They really just need to make things less predictable. My understanding:

Solari finds something that works, and he goes back to the well again and again, repeating that play or formation. When Saunders found something that worked well, he would put it away for 4 games, then bring it back out.

The Donnie Edwards interception in San Diego was a direct result of predictability. Evidently, the Chargers had studied film on the Chiefs' situational playcalling and (correctly) predicted that pass would be the call on that down. Thus Donnie had made a break on the ball before it was even thrown.


Doesnt matter if Bill Walsh is calling the plays..

If Herm doesnt like it he will override it or throw that Coordinator under the bus after the game..

B_Ambuehl
12-30-2006, 11:51 AM
The Chiefs need to get an above average left tackle to make this offense run the way it should. We've survived without the big named wide receivers, but with no decent left tackle, our offense sputters.

Bingo! Guys you'll need to go back and look at the offense from 2005 and again the last 7 games of this year. The offense lit it up against Cleveland this year.....that was the "Chiefs" offense. Solari did not come in with a conservative offensive game plan against Baltimore either....ditto for S.D. But what happened?? Five plus sacks allowed against both Bal and S.D. The downfield passing inherent to the Coryell/Vermeil/Saunders offense requires lots of 7 step drops and very slow developing plays off PA pass. The offensive line simply can't hold up to run the offense the way it should be run. Nor could it hold upin 2005 in the games Roaf missed.

With Huard at QB the offense was vastly different from last year simply because he didn't have the talent to run it....he's strictly a first read quarterback. But with Trent Green the coaching staff obviously tried to run the KC chiefs offense but just coulnd't get it done.

Sure-Oz
12-30-2006, 03:09 PM
They need an offensive line to make the Saunders O work. That was the main problem this year and the ridiculously predictable play calling, esp the last 5 games.