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crazycoffey
12-30-2006, 03:44 PM
I got off on a rant and was inspired to start this thread topic. I said then that I stand behind CP and Herm that we could be doing a lot worse than what they have done for us to date.

My question is what should be my #1 priority as a Chiefs fan, at least according to the negative nancy's of this BB.

Should it be the playoffs? How about the Superbowl?

I contend that a fan's #1 priority should be a winning record and here is why;

Simply put, look at the odds. The mindset that we should have a playoff or a superbowl bid as a main goal in a season is the same mindset that has led to the success of many a casino owner in Vegas. It's just not the odds you should be focused on.

Two 16 team conferences to two superbowl bids is to far against the odds to hold that as my #1 goal for my Chiefs. Period.

With six playoff bids for a 16 team conference the odds get better, but this is very close to 2/3 of the conference not making the playoffs, again, the odds. If you know more than 60% of the coin flips are going to me on a head to head match up, why would you bet against yourself?? And then complain that you didn't beat me?

If you agree with me, let me know. If you don't try and make a better argument for a different theory.

CoMoChief
12-30-2006, 03:45 PM
If anyone here looks forward to anything less than the Super Bowl they're idiots. That's the main prize and in reality, not winning one means failure.

crazycoffey
12-30-2006, 03:47 PM
If anyone here looks forward to anything less than the Super Bowl they're idiots. That's the main prize and in reality, not winning one means failure.


are you making the most money at your job?

Then you are a failure, according to your logic

HermIsKing
12-30-2006, 03:56 PM
people on tihs board who do . not support herm are not real fans

Reaper16
12-30-2006, 04:02 PM
Looking at things objectively, our number one priority should be to kill ourselves. Fortunately, I have a problem with procrastination.

trndobrd
12-30-2006, 04:02 PM
With six playoff bids for a 16 team conference the odds get better, but this is very close to 2/3 of the conference not making the playoffs, again, the odds. If you know more than 60% of the coin flips are going to me on a head to head match up, why would you bet against yourself?? And then complain that you didn't beat me?

If you agree with me, let me know. If you don't try and make a better argument for a different theory.


Your assumption is that the outcome of a particular game is determined by a 50-50 random chance. That is not the case in football...if it was, the team captains could simply meet in the center of the field, shake hands, call the coin toss and everyone could go home. Would certainly save wear and tear on the field.

My theory is that NFL football teams (except the Lions) try to make personnel and game plan decisions based on winning football games. A series of correct decisions by the GM, Head Coach, and Players results in victories. Some organizations do a consistently better job over time of making correct decisons.

Think of it like playing tournament poker...players that consistently make good decisions over time will win over time. The goal is to string enough good decisions together to win the tournament, not win 50% of your hands.

Deberg_1990
12-30-2006, 04:05 PM
My # 1 priority would be a young stud QB. A Carson Palmer, Vince Young, Phillip Rivers, Jay Cutler type.......

HermIsKing
12-30-2006, 04:06 PM
ha ha Bill parcell neg rep me because he has no argument

crazycoffey
12-30-2006, 04:08 PM
Your assumption is that the outcome of a particular game is determined by a 50-50 random chance. That is not the case in football...if it was, the team captains could simply meet in the center of the field, shake hands, call the coin toss and everyone could go home. Would certainly save wear and tear on the field.

My theory is that NFL football teams (except the Lions) try to make personnel and game plan decisions based on winning football games. A series of correct decisions by the GM, Head Coach, and Players results in victories. Some organizations do a consistently better job over time of making correct decisons.

Think of it like playing tournament poker...players that consistently make good decisions over time will win over time. The goal is to string enough good decisions together to win the tournament, not win 50% of your hands.

The thought process from the quote you commented on was about the odds of making the playoffs, not for a one game outcome, more for the out come of 16 teams playing 16 games and the if the outcome = a playoff birth or not. Included with this was my rant on the negativity of some chief fans, that we suck if we don't win a superbowl or we suck if we don't get in the playoffs.

My point is that we suck if we have a losing record, and we should try to enjoy the season for what it is..... a game.

chiefforlife
12-30-2006, 04:09 PM
You have to be kidding me!! If you arent trying to win a championship then what the hell are you doing. Are you Carl Peterson in disguise?? As long as we are 500 and selling out the stadium, we are successfull. Thats BS!!

You cant compare every day life with proffesional sports.

The Chiefs front office is happy with a winning record and thats what makes it so frustrating to be a Chief fan. How can you ask the players to compete if all you want is a winning record. Ask any of them and they will tell you they play for a RING, a CHAMPIONSHIP!!

"You play to win the game"

Chief Roundup
12-30-2006, 04:10 PM
To me a Chiefs fans' #1 priority is to cheer, and pull for the Chiefs to win every single game.

My personal goal every year for the team is the Division. Because that is the best position to be in to put a run together for the superbowl.

crazycoffey
12-30-2006, 04:12 PM
Your assumption is that the outcome of a particular game is determined by a 50-50 random chance. That is not the case in football...if it was, the team captains could simply meet in the center of the field, shake hands, call the coin toss and everyone could go home. Would certainly save wear and tear on the field.

My theory is that NFL football teams (except the Lions) try to make personnel and game plan decisions based on winning football games. A series of correct decisions by the GM, Head Coach, and Players results in victories. Some organizations do a consistently better job over time of making correct decisons.

Think of it like playing tournament poker...players that consistently make good decisions over time will win over time. The goal is to string enough good decisions together to win the tournament, not win 50% of your hands.

also ask the players of a poker tournament if the world will end if they don't win the tournament, or if it could be considered a small victory to place high enough to win thier entry fee back.

Take also your fantasy football season, did you waste the year by not placing first in your league or was part of the fun, just playing in the game. Yes you want to win, but my question posed here is our #1 priority, don't take my comments out of context.

crazycoffey
12-30-2006, 04:14 PM
You have to be kidding me!! If you arent trying to win a championship then what the hell are you doing. Are you Carl Peterson in disguise?? As long as we are 500 and selling out the stadium, we are successfull. Thats BS!!

You cant compare every day life with proffesional sports.

The Chiefs front office is happy with a winning record and thats what makes it so frustrating to be a Chief fan. How can you ask the players to compete if all you want is a winning record. Ask any of them and they will tell you they play for a RING, a CHAMPIONSHIP!!

"You play to win the game"


are you answering with your ULTIMATE GOAL or your #1 priority, do you need a dictonary to know the difference?

I bet you are just another of the Negative Nancy's that would complain about anything, just to have a say in the world.

CoMoChief
12-30-2006, 04:16 PM
are you making the most money at your job?

Then you are a failure, according to your logic

You're not getting my point obviously.

chiefforlife
12-30-2006, 04:20 PM
Why dont you ask Will Shields if he is Happy, wasting his entire career on a mediocre team?? Sure some of it was fun but that isnt the #1 priority. Ask Tony Gonzalez the same thing?

Yeah I know, Im not a player, but I have the same #1 priority. No, its not the end of the world if we dont get there but some progress would be nice. Working towards that goal would be nice. To be content with a 9-7 season is not what sports is about.

crazycoffey
12-30-2006, 04:21 PM
You're not getting my point obviously.


I don't think you are getting my point, yes our ultimate goal for the chiefs is to win the superbowl, but that's not what I was asking about to start this thread conversation.

so yes I understood your point just fine.

blsilks
12-30-2006, 04:21 PM
To bitch about his/her team.

CoMoChief
12-30-2006, 04:22 PM
Let's see we haven't won a championship in 30 yrs, what would your #1 priority be? Do we need to paint a picture for you?

crazycoffey
12-30-2006, 04:25 PM
Why dont you ask Will Shields if he is Happy, wasting his entire career on a mediocre team?? Sure some of it was fun but that isnt the #1 priority. Ask Tony Gonzalez the same thing?

Yeah I know, Im not a player, but I have the same #1 priority. No, its not the end of the world if we dont get there but some progress would be nice. Working towards that goal would be nice. To be content with a 9-7 season is not what sports is about.


again I didn't ask about the players perspective, nor about being content, I ask about our number 1 priority as fans, hopefully to get some of the negative comments off this site and hopefully promote some positive comments.

I also realize that this is like overcoming the odds for the playoffs this year, but at least I am trying

CoMoChief
12-30-2006, 04:26 PM
This is a stupid thread.

crazycoffey
12-30-2006, 04:28 PM
This is a stupid thread.

gee how can I argue with that logic

let me come down to your level

shutup, dill weed

chiefforlife
12-30-2006, 04:28 PM
Allright, the #1 priority as fans right now should be... to be as negative and loud about our displeasure with the team and organization as we can be. Afterall that is all we can do at this point.

crazycoffey
12-30-2006, 04:44 PM
Allright, the #1 priority as fans right now should be... to be as negative and loud about our displeasure with the team and organization as we can be. Afterall that is all we can do at this point.


HAHA, Good one, give you partial credit. But not full credit, because what good does it do you?

oaklandhater
12-30-2006, 05:00 PM
My # 1 priority would be to have some bad seasons so we can get some decent drafts.

the Talking Can
12-30-2006, 05:17 PM
I got off on a rant and was inspired to start this thread topic. I said then that I stand behind CP and Herm that we could be doing a lot worse than what they have done for us to date.

My question is what should be my #1 priority as a Chiefs fan, at least according to the negative nancy's of this BB.

Should it be the playoffs? How about the Superbowl?

I contend that a fan's #1 priority should be a winning record and here is why;

Simply put, look at the odds. The mindset that we should have a playoff or a superbowl bid as a main goal in a season is the same mindset that has led to the success of many a casino owner in Vegas. It's just not the odds you should be focused on.

Two 16 team conferences to two superbowl bids is to far against the odds to hold that as my #1 goal for my Chiefs. Period.

With six playoff bids for a 16 team conference the odds get better, but this is very close to 2/3 of the conference not making the playoffs, again, the odds. If you know more than 60% of the coin flips are going to me on a head to head match up, why would you bet against yourself?? And then complain that you didn't beat me?

If you agree with me, let me know. If you don't try and make a better argument for a different theory.


welcome to the planet, Carl...

Skip Towne
12-30-2006, 05:23 PM
again I didn't ask about the players perspective, nor about being content, I ask about our number 1 priority as fans, hopefully to get some of the negative comments off this site and hopefully promote some positive comments.

I also realize that this is like overcoming the odds for the playoffs this year, but at least I am trying
So now the n00b is going to change the direction of the Planet. s-t-f-u

HermIsKing
12-30-2006, 05:26 PM
just cuz he a nooob he knows carl and herm try very hard. they are geting Chiefs in the right dierction

chiefforlife
12-30-2006, 05:33 PM
just cuz he a nooob he knows carl and herm try very hard. they are geting Chiefs in the right dierction


That what we thought after DVs first year too...

Simplex3
12-30-2006, 05:40 PM
There is one Super Bowl champ. Everyone else in the league are losers. Every last one of them. Second place is the first loser in my book.

If you make moves with winning next week in mind you'll never win it all unless that next week is the Super Bowl. Period. In football or in life. If you ran your career by how much your very next paycheck was going to be you're going to wind up underneath a bus. You have to see the goal, formulate a plan that will get you there over time, and then go and achieve it.

Carl's plan was supposed to be over what, 9 years ago now?

CoMoChief
12-30-2006, 05:45 PM
welcome to the planet, Carl...

Yeah, no shit.

CoMoChief
12-30-2006, 05:46 PM
There is one Super Bowl champ. Everyone else in the league are losers. Every last one of them. Second place is the first loser in my book.

If you make moves with winning next week in mind you'll never win it all unless that next week is the Super Bowl. Period. In football or in life. If you ran your career by how much your very next paycheck was going to be you're going to wind up underneath a bus. You have to see the goal, formulate a plan that will get you there over time, and then go and achieve it.

Carl's plan was supposed to be over what, 9 years ago now?


Bingo. This threadstarter is a moron.

He's from St. Louis so go figure.

trndobrd
12-30-2006, 06:06 PM
The thought process from the quote you commented on was about the odds of making the playoffs, not for a one game outcome, more for the out come of 16 teams playing 16 games and the if the outcome = a playoff birth or not. Included with this was my rant on the negativity of some chief fans, that we suck if we don't win a superbowl or we suck if we don't get in the playoffs.

My point is that we suck if we have a losing record, and we should try to enjoy the season for what it is..... a game.



So the outcome of an individual game is not determined by statistical probabilities, but a 16 game season is? My point still stands, each season is based on a series of decisions, drafting a player, blitzing a line backer, throwing into double coverage, not random chance. If an organization, over time, makes poor decisions then fans have cause to complain.

Have the Chiefs made poor decisions over time? Sure. The Arizona Cardinals have been to the playoffs more recently than the Chiefs. Much of the complaining on this board is because many feel that the Chiefs are not improving. The Chiefs have consistently finished with a winning (more than 8 wins) record, but have not improved upon that.

Many board members, myself included, believe accepting the status quo is not acceptable, in sports and in life. You asked another poster if he was a "loser" because he didn't make the most money at his job. I would posit that current status is not nearly as important as direction. Did the person get a raise last year, did he get that promotion, is he continuing to try to improve himself and build on success? An organization that is improving is better than one that has accepted mediocrity as an acceptable status quo.

trndobrd
12-30-2006, 06:11 PM
also ask the players of a poker tournament if the world will end if they don't win the tournament, or if it could be considered a small victory to place high enough to win thier entry fee back.

Take also your fantasy football season, did you waste the year by not placing first in your league or was part of the fun, just playing in the game. Yes you want to win, but my question posed here is our #1 priority, don't take my comments out of context.


Maybe the first couple tournaments he would be thrilled to place in the money enough to cover his entry fee. After that, he would probably expect to place higher, to do better, and to win more money. Otherwise, why bother? He could spend his time in some other pursuit.

I don't play fantasy football, but the Chiefs have met your #1 priority of a "winning" season for the past several seasons. That goal has been met. Time to set a new goal.

Logical
12-30-2006, 06:33 PM
The thought process from the quote you commented on was about the odds of making the playoffs, not for a one game outcome, more for the out come of 16 teams playing 16 games and the if the outcome = a playoff birth or not. Included with this was my rant on the negativity of some chief fans, that we suck if we don't win a superbowl or we suck if we don't get in the playoffs.

My point is that we suck if we have a losing record, and we should try to enjoy the season for what it is..... a game.

I see you have been brainwashed by Carl Peterson.:rolleyes:

I suppose you work to be the most average employee at your company as well. I feel sorry for your employer.

crazycoffey
12-31-2006, 08:00 AM
To me a Chiefs fans' #1 priority is to cheer, and pull for the Chiefs to win every single game.

My personal goal every year for the team is the Division. Because that is the best position to be in to put a run together for the superbowl.

Roundup gets it, Hermisking got it too, more positive thinking, that’s all I want from this.

Listen guys, I’m not saying you don’t have the right to bitch, hell I bitch. I dummied the topic starter a little with an over simplistic point. I wanted something like roundups comment. I knew I'd get some from the resident 13 year olds, like;

So now the n00b is going to change the direction of the Planet. s-t-f-u

I want a playoff and we still have hope this year, albeit a long shot, and no one wants to give out positive energy for a positive outcome. I based this thread on a philosophy that my mother told me when I was young. If I said something negative her response was always “you’re going to speak it into existence”. Of course I never understood this comment until I was older. I have come to realize the power of being positive through life, not only as a human interacting with other humans in day to day life, but also as a husband, a father, a service member, and most recently as a police officer.

I have only been on this site for two weeks, at first I thought the negative comments were just fans venting, we all do it, I joined in. Then during the MU game I started to hear it, “we need another TD to overcome our future 4th quarter meltdown.” This put me into research mode. I looked over the past blogs and noticed many of you do this same thing during the chief’s games. It’s like a race to see who can foresee the letdown first.

There is one Super Bowl champ. Everyone else in the league are losers. Every last one of them. Second place is the first loser in my book.

If you make moves with winning next week in mind you'll never win it all unless that next week is the Super Bowl. Period. In football or in life. If you ran your career by how much your very next paycheck was going to be you're going to wind up underneath a bus. You have to see the goal, formulate a plan that will get you there over time, and then go and achieve it.

Carl's plan was supposed to be over what, 9 years ago now?

This is ludicrous, and like the makings of some movie script, yeah I watched Talladega nights too, but it’s not real. We do put out a good team every year, and they are fun to cheer for and watch every game. Remember the Dallas game, last year. I was there in Irving, TX supporting my chiefs, and it was a great game. I remember thinking as I left the stadium, that there wasn’t a loser that day, but only one team could have won. These thoughts were echoes of what Len Dawson said (I know this because I watched the NFL replay of the game and he said exactly what I thought. Guess what many of you were saying here, do you want quotes from that game too? “I just knew we would blow it, that kicker sucks”

All I was trying to call for was just a little more positive threads, bitch, vent, but lets concentrate more on what we can do with positive vibes too, maybe they really do have an effect. I also would enjoy more meaningful, educated conversations. I liked the recent thread about trading LJ for some draft picks, a very interesting topic (could have done without the “Carl’s a dumbass and he would never do that” comments) Dallas did something similar a few years back and had great results. I don’t want to see LJ go, but if he and his agent are desiring to move to a different team, then Carl could do good by trading him, shore up the line, let Bennett, maybe Priest, and Brown or a draft pick could still put up respectable rushing numbers. This is a great topic that was ruined the other day with all the stupid thrashing – just to thrash – comments.

Can’t we all just get along, we ARE on the same team. (with exceptions to the Donkey and dolt-bolt fans)

I don’t want to be mediocre either, I want to see them win every game, I just also don’t want to be hit over the head for saying, “keep you chins up, guys. We have a good team, Carl has done more good than harm, Herm just started and the players really seem to like him, I think we still have a shot,” etc. You know – positive statements.

the Talking Can
12-31-2006, 08:24 AM
Roundup gets it, Hermisking got it too, more positive thinking, that’s all I want from this.

Listen guys, I’m not saying you don’t have the right to bitch, hell I bitch. I dummied the topic starter a little with an over simplistic point. I wanted something like roundups comment. I knew I'd get some from the resident 13 year olds, like;



I want a playoff and we still have hope this year, albeit a long shot, and no one wants to give out positive energy for a positive outcome. I based this thread on a philosophy that my mother told me when I was young. If I said something negative her response was always “you’re going to speak it into existence”. Of course I never understood this comment until I was older. I have come to realize the power of being positive through life, not only as a human interacting with other humans in day to day life, but also as a husband, a father, a service member, and most recently as a police officer.

I have only been on this site for two weeks, at first I thought the negative comments were just fans venting, we all do it, I joined in. Then during the MU game I started to hear it, “we need another TD to overcome our future 4th quarter meltdown.” This put me into research mode. I looked over the past blogs and noticed many of you do this same thing during the chief’s games. It’s like a race to see who can foresee the letdown first.



This is ludicrous, and like the makings of some movie script, yeah I watched Talladega nights too, but it’s not real. We do put out a good team every year, and they are fun to cheer for and watch every game. Remember the Dallas game, last year. I was there in Irving, TX supporting my chiefs, and it was a great game. I remember thinking as I left the stadium, that there wasn’t a loser that day, but only one team could have won. These thoughts were echoes of what Len Dawson said (I know this because I watched the NFL replay of the game and he said exactly what I thought. Guess what many of you were saying here, do you want quotes from that game too? “I just knew we would blow it, that kicker sucks”

All I was trying to call for was just a little more positive threads, bitch, vent, but lets concentrate more on what we can do with positive vibes too, maybe they really do have an effect. I also would enjoy more meaningful, educated conversations. I liked the recent thread about trading LJ for some draft picks, a very interesting topic (could have done without the “Carl’s a dumbass and he would never do that” comments) Dallas did something similar a few years back and had great results. I don’t want to see LJ go, but if he and his agent are desiring to move to a different team, then Carl could do good by trading him, shore up the line, let Bennett, maybe Priest, and Brown or a draft pick could still put up respectable rushing numbers. This is a great topic that was ruined the other day with all the stupid thrashing – just to thrash – comments.

Can’t we all just get along, we ARE on the same team. (with exceptions to the Donkey and dolt-bolt fans)

I don’t want to be mediocre either, I want to see them win every game, I just also don’t want to be hit over the head for saying, “keep you chins up, guys. We have a good team, Carl has done more good than harm, Herm just started and the players really seem to like him, I think we still have a shot,” etc. You know – positive statements.

you probably haven't figured it out yet....but no gives a shit what you think this site should be like...

it would make sense to know something about the posters, the site, and its long history....we've only experienced the argument about "true fans" and lovers of mediocrity about 6,000 times....but hey, you want to re-invent the wheel...knock yourself out...I'm sure you have an o so original point of view....

milkman
12-31-2006, 08:25 AM
A fan's #1 priority for a given season is irrelevent.

But every fan should expect to see his team win the ultimate prize at least once in 18 years of the same organizational leadership of that team.

Every fan should expect more than 3 playoff wins in that 18 years.

Every fan should expect at least one playoff win in 13 years

Every fan should expect his team to at least reach the playoffs more than once in 10 years.

Every fan should see it's team making progress in those 18 years, rather than watch that team stand virtually still.

Any fan that is remotely satisfied with that 18 years of futility, and remotely satisfied with the most recent example of that futility, is, at the very least, easily satisfied.

And if you think that any thoughts we have on the subject has any impact on the performance on the field, you are delusional.

Bob Dole
12-31-2006, 08:29 AM
Remember the Dallas game, last year. I was there in Irving, TX supporting my chiefs, and it was a great game. I remember thinking as I left the stadium, that there wasn’t a loser that day, but only one team could have won.

Bob Dole was there too.

We lost.

the Talking Can
12-31-2006, 08:30 AM
Bob Dole was there too.

We lost.

we choked away the playoffs

how the hell can anyone be happy about that?

besides Carl, I mean

trndobrd
12-31-2006, 08:33 AM
I knew I'd get some from the resident 13 year olds, like;

Quote:Originally Posted by Skip Towne
So now the n00b is going to change the direction of the Planet. s-t-f-u





ROFL

siberian khatru
12-31-2006, 08:33 AM
you probably haven't figured it out yet....but no gives a shit what you think this site should be like...

it would make sense to know something about the posters, the site, and its long history....we've only experienced the argument about "true fans" and lovers of mediocrity about 6,000 times....but hey, you want to re-invent the wheel...knock yourself out...I'm sure you have an o so original point of view....

Thanks for saving me the time.

I'm trying not to become the new Skip when it comes to n00bs, but goddamn some of this shit just rubs me the wrong way.

crazycoffey
12-31-2006, 09:47 AM
Thanks for saving me the time.

I'm trying not to become the new Skip when it comes to n00bs, but goddamn some of this shit just rubs me the wrong way.


Ah, so be it.

I can always say I tried.

NaptownChief
12-31-2006, 10:31 AM
I contend that a fan's #1 priority should be a winning record and here is why;

Simply put, look at the odds..



You should set your #1 priority at winning just one game. Because the odds show that in a 16 game season everyone wins at least one game. This way you are never disappointed and we don't put too much pressure on sweet little Carl and Herm to actually accomplish something of note.

NaptownChief
12-31-2006, 10:36 AM
Roundup gets it, Hermisking got it too, more positive thinking, that’s all I want from this.




You guys aren't alone there are others out there in the US and they help make rules like not keeping score in youth league sports, or suspending a football coach if his team wins by 50 points or more etc.etc. We just need to make sure everyone feels good and nobody loses cause that is exactly how real life works. :rolleyes:

crazycoffey
12-31-2006, 10:39 AM
You guys aren't alone there are others out there in the US and they help make rules like not keeping score in youth league sports, or suspending a football coach if his team wins by 50 points or more etc.etc. We just need to make sure everyone feels good and nobody loses cause that is exactly how real life works. :rolleyes:


:lame:

chiefforlife
12-31-2006, 10:54 AM
:lame:


crazycoffee, I think you are confusing Cheerleading with being a fan.

Most of what you have said applies to cheerleading...Lets think positive, lets keep smiling, at least we get to shake our pom poms. Right girls?

crazycoffey
12-31-2006, 11:02 AM
crazycoffee, I think you are confusing Cheerleading with being a fan.

Most of what you have said applies to cheerleading...Lets think positive, lets keep smiling, at least we get to shake our pom poms. Right girls?

that was the most creative and funny rib poke I've gotten yet, even in it's simplicity, thanks for the laugh

No really, it was a good one.

Much better than N00b

crazycoffey
12-26-2013, 04:20 AM
A fan's #1 priority for a given season is irrelevent.

But every fan should expect to see his team win the ultimate prize at least once in 18 years of the same organizational leadership of that team.

Every fan should expect more than 3 playoff wins in that 18 years.

Every fan should expect at least one playoff win in 13 years

Every fan should expect his team to at least reach the playoffs more than once in 10 years.

Every fan should see it's team making progress in those 18 years, rather than watch that team stand virtually still.

Any fan that is remotely satisfied with that 18 years of futility, and remotely satisfied with the most recent example of that futility, is, at the very least, easily satisfied.

And if you think that any thoughts we have on the subject has any impact on the performance on the field, you are delusional.

Do you realize it's statistically impossible to expect any AFC team to win a Super Bowl every 18 years, regardless of organizational leadership?

3 playoff wins in 18 years or one in 13 years, is subjective and not relative to my point.

Reaching the playoffs every 10 years? Sounds good, is that my base line of comparison to being a fan?

In the last 18 years I have seen "my team" make progressions, fultile or not, and this year is no different.

I'm not easily satisfied, I'm just not as easily dissatisfied as some. This year likely ends with another playoff loss. But my role as a fan was first to enjoy the ride. I can check that box. I didn't expect a playoff berth at all this year.

New World Order
12-26-2013, 05:11 AM
They pay players millions per year with the goal of having a winning record?

Wut

Rausch
12-26-2013, 06:16 AM
My question is what should be my #1 priority as a Chiefs fan, at least according to the negative nancy's of this BB.

The belief.

Going back to Marty's days this was a team that won when it never should have. I think we had a string of like 4 years where we beat the eventual SB champ in the regular season.

We never did win it all but we were never really that far away.

DV's 13-3 team was the same way. We didn't out score the Ravens or trick the Ravens we fucking MAULED the Ravens on the ground, broke their will, and won how no one thought we could.

As fans no matter how sick, fed up, let down, or underdog we are we still believe.

Be angry, bitter, cynical, and even resentful. That's fine. You only truly lose when you quit fighting.

And if we lose our first playoff game all of us will still be back here the very next day to disagree about the start of free agency and the draft...

Dave Lane
12-26-2013, 07:18 AM
If anyone here looks forward to anything less than the Super Bowl they're idiots. That's the main prize and in reality, not winning one means failure.

Holy crap Como and I agree on something, I'm just standing here beside myself.

Chief Roundup
12-26-2013, 07:47 AM
Pretty bad when you have to go back 7 years to bump a thread.

Jimmya
12-26-2013, 08:36 AM
Superbowl or bust!

Easy 6
12-26-2013, 09:26 AM
This team has met my every expectation for the year and then some, a playoff win would be the gravy on top.

Considering where we were last year, to not only make the playoffs but have our spot locked in by week 15 is ka-razy... i flatly refuse to be too upset no matter what the rest of the year brings.

2014? Bring. It. On.

Nightfyre
12-26-2013, 10:33 AM
CC, what's up with taking seven years to formulate a counter argument?

dred
12-26-2013, 10:46 AM
The #1 priority should be to respond to a post in less than 7 years. ROFL

God I love this place.

Mr. Laz
12-26-2013, 11:03 AM
The number 1 priority should be to lose every game, each year until we draft a Quarterback.

threebag02
12-26-2013, 12:25 PM
FUCK Geno

mcaj22
12-26-2013, 12:29 PM
7 year rebuild plan Chiefs way still looking for those baby step priorities (winning a playoff game)

Chiefaholic
12-26-2013, 12:38 PM
Might as well run with it since this post has set in the archives for 7 years. But, my first two priorities in life are God and family. As a fan of the Chiefs, I'd appreciate if they could just win one playoff game this season. Yes, I realize our draft position last year. However, this coaching staff has shown that we're capable of looking pretty solid in all three phases of the game. They need to start game planning for the Colts right now. Screw the Charger game and treat it like the last preseason game of the year. I was barely old enough to buy alcohol the last time they won a playoff game with Montana. It's time for the Hunts to put up or shut up.

Big Smoke
12-26-2013, 12:38 PM
Clay would **** Geno

FYP

Ragged Robin
12-26-2013, 12:45 PM
Being respectable/competitive again is nice. Everything else can come after.

MahiMike
12-26-2013, 01:11 PM
This thread needs more Herm.

Bewbies
12-26-2013, 01:37 PM
Hooray for winning seasons! And Herm!

Boo to a long term vision of building a champion....

Deberg_1990
12-26-2013, 01:42 PM
My # 1 priority would be a young stud QB. A Carson Palmer, Vince Young, Phillip Rivers, Jay Cutler type.......

Wow, none of these guys ever won a title.

crazycoffey
12-26-2013, 01:57 PM
CC, what's up with taking seven years to formulate a counter argument?

Drudged it up looking for a skip post to neg from phobias thread. Didn't want to say "bump"

Chief Roundup
12-26-2013, 04:20 PM
Drudged it up looking for a skip post to neg from phobias thread. Didn't want to say "bump"

You didn't have to post to give him neg rep dumbass.

stevieray
12-26-2013, 04:28 PM
Camaro

crazycoffey
12-26-2013, 04:29 PM
You didn't have to post to give him neg rep dumbass.

no shit? I found the thread mildly entertaining, thanks for the insult though, really know how to hurt me.........

Reerun_KC
12-26-2013, 04:36 PM
9-7. Drafting guards. And playoff hope. Just don't risk too much.

greg63
12-26-2013, 04:43 PM
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Mr. Flopnuts
12-26-2013, 05:06 PM
Might as well run with it since this post has set in the archives for 7 years. But, my first two priorities in life are God and family. As a fan of the Chiefs, I'd appreciate if they could just win one playoff game this season. Yes, I realize our draft position last year. However, this coaching staff has shown that we're capable of looking pretty solid in all three phases of the game. They need to start game planning for the Colts right now. Screw the Charger game and treat it like the last preseason game of the year. I was barely old enough to buy alcohol the last time they won a playoff game with Montana. It's time for the Hunts to put up or shut up.

This is where I'm at. If you told me to start the season we would win 11 games and be the last undefeated team for over a month I would've been thrilled. Now though, winning a playoff game is the ONLY thing that matters. Anything less, and it's a failure. Just win 1 fucking playoff game and I'll call it a miracle season and see this team moving in the right direction.