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blueballs
12-31-2006, 06:33 PM
1 playoff win
and he is better
strange

elvomito
12-31-2006, 06:42 PM
herm can't take all the credit, he had great playcalling all year plus a dominant offensive line. they just mauled people

mikeyis4dcats.
12-31-2006, 06:46 PM
Herm gets 10% of the credit. The failure of some 5 other teams gets the rest.

blueballs
12-31-2006, 06:50 PM
does not change the facts
postseason is all that matters

El Jefe
12-31-2006, 06:51 PM
Bet every one who was making fun of my Herman Edwards post:about how the bashers should shut up. I betcha they read that post differently now.

DaneMcCloud
12-31-2006, 06:53 PM
Herm gets 10% of the credit. The failure of some 5 other teams gets the rest.

Thanks. This from the idiot who thought the game today was on at 3pm CST. STFU

blueballs
12-31-2006, 06:53 PM
Dante Hall is why Vermeil got to postseason

El Jefe
12-31-2006, 06:54 PM
DaneMCcloud, man that really cracked me up.

SNR
12-31-2006, 07:11 PM
Bet every one who was making fun of my Herman Edwards post:about how the bashers should shut up. I betcha they read that post differently now.You were right. Congrats.

chief52
12-31-2006, 07:17 PM
Let's be honest. Vermiel's had teams as good and better...the playoff system just worked out for the Chiefs this year. I will take it.

El Jefe
12-31-2006, 07:19 PM
No im not out for any reason other than I cant believe this happened and I am just glad we got in thats about it. I just think Herm is good and maybe this will help his case on this site, probably not but maybe, hey we made the playoffs and that was a longshot anything can happen.

elvomito
12-31-2006, 07:25 PM
back to business
there are issues
at the game, it was evident... trent's brain is not as sharp as it was, i'm assuming its from the concussion.

good thing we have a game coming up where LJ will carry a record number of times

blueballs
12-31-2006, 07:29 PM
I hope Bennett is heathy

B_Ambuehl
12-31-2006, 07:42 PM
This is still DV's team. Remember he built from scratch. Herm inherited a 10-6 team and IMO didn't do anythign that couldn't be expalined by the addition of a 1st round pass rusher and Ty Law. The offense went into the trashcan....defense is not really playing anywhere near what some might think they'd be capable of considering the upgrade in talent.

Let's see what Herm can build after Gonzales, Green, LJ, Waters, Shields, and Sammy Knight are gone.

BWillie
12-31-2006, 07:42 PM
Herm Edwards did not make Denver, Cincinnati, & Tennessee all choke. 10-6 last year was a better year than this year, we just happened to get lucky this year. But with that said, I hope this puts to rest all of you guys that blame her for everything..and Carl too.

CoMoChief
12-31-2006, 07:45 PM
Not really fair to compare the 2 when DV had a better record last season and didn't make while this season we didn't have a good of a season and needed help from 3 different teams. Luck went our way this evening, especially in DEN. Not in a million yrs would I think that SF could go into DEN and win. Boy I'm sure as hell glad they did though.

TN_Chief
12-31-2006, 07:46 PM
Oh God, don't even try to give Herm credit for this. We're only in the playoffs because 2 other teams (Bengals and Broncos) choked huge.

Don't get me wrong, I'm happy we're there. But to say Herm somehow earned this...please.

Pitt Gorilla
12-31-2006, 07:52 PM
I don't think Herm is the better coach, but our D gives us a better chance in the playoffs.

chiefsfan1963
12-31-2006, 07:56 PM
just want to say how happy I am. What a great new year's present to Chief's fans. How lucky can we get. Let's kick Colts ass next week. Revenge for 2003 season! Cheers everyone! Let's put our differences aside and dance to Kool and the Gang! :clap:

blueballs
01-01-2007, 01:28 PM
please pass on to LJ a win in Indy
make Vermeil look bad
then egg LJ's house

ChiefsLV
01-01-2007, 01:35 PM
please pass on to LJ a win in Indy
make Vermeil look bad
then egg LJ's house

What's with all the Vermeil hatin? You treat the man like he had three 5-11 seasons here. Yeah, he ultimately didn't get it done, but he did build an offense from absolute shit into a #1 offense. Give the man a little credit.

blueballs
01-01-2007, 01:39 PM
pissed LJ
good

milkman
01-01-2007, 01:39 PM
What's with all the Vermeil hatin? You treat the man like he had three 5-11 seasons here. Yeah, he ultimately didn't get it done, but he did build an offense from absolute shit into a #1 offense. Give the man a little credit.

And he helped to create one of the all time horrid defenses.

**** Dick Vermeil.

He sucked ass.

Rausch
01-01-2007, 01:42 PM
The only coach I give a $3it about is the one in red this sunday.

Reerun_KC
01-01-2007, 01:47 PM
This is about the worst thread ever started....
Period!!!!

blueballs
01-01-2007, 01:50 PM
check out my body of work
before runnin off at the mouth
dipshit

Reerun_KC
01-01-2007, 01:52 PM
Oh okay...

now I am scared, you name calling on the message board....

blueballs
01-01-2007, 01:53 PM
I was going for scarred
but scared will work

HemiEd
01-01-2007, 02:14 PM
Dante Hall is why Vermeil got to postseason

Dick Vermeil is the reason Herm got to the post season

Rausch
01-01-2007, 02:18 PM
Dick Vermeil is the reason Herm got to the post season

Jenson71
01-01-2007, 02:18 PM
I am 100% a Coach Herman Edwards supporter. I love the man. He's our coach, and we're in the playoffs.

Reerun_KC
01-01-2007, 02:29 PM
I was going for scarred
but scared will work



Yeah whatever, still shaking off last night...

Cut me some slack?

Reerun_KC
01-01-2007, 02:31 PM
Dick Vermeil is the reason Herm got to the post season


Cincy, Denver and Tenn Losses are the only reason Herm is in the playoffs...



But who gives a rats ass, We are in and that is all that matters!

Guru
01-01-2007, 02:32 PM
1 playoff win
and he is better
strange
That should read "Edwards in 1 season = Vermeil in 3 seasons.

Mr. Laz
01-01-2007, 02:33 PM
does not change the facts
postseason is all that matters
only if you ignore most of reality.


9-7 makes the post season with Herm

10-6 doesn't make the post season for Vermeil



serious dose of luck/unlucky in there somewhere

Jenson71
01-01-2007, 02:34 PM
Cincy, Denver and Tenn Losses are the only reason Herm is in the playoffs...


That's extremely shortsighted. It's not a sprint, it's a half marathon, and some guys tire out at the end. You hold strong, you get a medal.

Reerun_KC
01-01-2007, 02:35 PM
That's extremely shortsighted. It's not a sprint, it's a half marathon, and some guys tire out at the end. You hold strong, you get a medal.


Very true,

That is why I wrote this "But who gives a rats ass, We are in and that is all that matters!"

Jenson71
01-01-2007, 02:38 PM
Very true,

That is why I wrote this "But who gives a rats ass, We are in and that is all that matters!"

:thumb: We are in.

wazu
01-01-2007, 02:39 PM
Vermeil got us to the second round of the playoffs. Edwards needs two wins to beat that feat.

Reerun_KC
01-01-2007, 02:39 PM
:thumb: We are in.


yes we are and now it is payback for the 1996 playoff loss....

Reerun_KC
01-01-2007, 02:40 PM
Vermeil got us to the second round of the playoffs. Edwards needs two wins to beat that feat.


One win would get us to the second round....

blueballs
01-01-2007, 02:44 PM
nice job there
balls of glass

wazu
01-01-2007, 02:52 PM
One win would get us to the second round....

Yes, but blueballs is saying one win makes Herm better. It doesn't. It just makes him equal.

1 playoff win
and he is better
strange

Deberg_1990
01-01-2007, 02:53 PM
Vermiel had one good 9-0 run in 2003. Before and after that he was extremely average or below average.

Brock
01-01-2007, 02:54 PM
Yes, but blueballs is saying one win makes Herm better. It doesn't. It just makes him equal.

Vermeil 0-1 in the playoffs. If Herm wins this game, he's 1-0, which is clearly better. You don't get points for a bye.

milkman
01-01-2007, 02:58 PM
Vermeil got us to the second round of the playoffs. Edwards needs two wins to beat that feat.

1 win, regardless of round, is more than Dick accomplished.

wazu
01-01-2007, 02:59 PM
Vermeil 0-1 in the playoffs. If Herm wins this game, he's 1-0, which is clearly better. You don't get points for a bye.

I disagree. All that matters to me is how deep you go in the playoffs. If you can dominate in the regular season and skip the first round altogether the result is the same.

Brock
01-01-2007, 03:01 PM
I disagree. All that matters to me is how deep you go in the playoffs. If you can dominate in the regular season and skip the first round altogether the result is the same.

That's an unusual viewpoint. Very unusual. 0-1 isn't "deep in the playoffs". "Deep in the playoffs" is a championship game.

wazu
01-01-2007, 03:03 PM
0-1 isn't "deep in the playoffs". "Deep in the playoffs" is a championship game.

I agree with that.

milkman
01-01-2007, 03:03 PM
I disagree. All that matters to me is how deep you go in the playoffs. If you can dominate in the regular season and skip the first round altogether the result is the same.

1 and out is not deep in the playoffs.

wazu
01-01-2007, 03:06 PM
1 and out is not deep in the playoffs.

Who said it was?

DaneMcCloud
01-01-2007, 03:07 PM
Cincy, Denver and Tenn Losses are the only reason Herm is in the playoffs...



But who gives a rats ass, We are in and that is all that matters!

No. The reason that the Chiefs are in the playoffs is because they beat Jacksonville. Without the win over the Jags, the Chiefs would not have made the playoffs.

rad
01-01-2007, 03:07 PM
Vermeil 0-1 in the playoffs. If Herm wins this game, he's 1-0, which is clearly better. You don't get points for a bye.

That's what I was gonna say. DV didn't win a game to get to the Div. round, a bye doesn't count as a win. As for last year, if the Bungles didn't rest their starters we could have easily been 9-7.

Brock
01-01-2007, 03:08 PM
Who said it was?

You seem to be saying that having a bye week and losing in the next game is better than winning a wild card game.

wazu
01-01-2007, 03:11 PM
You seem to be saying that having a bye week and losing in the next game is better than winning a wild card game.

No, it's equal. Both scenarios result in the Chiefs falling one game short of the AFC Championship game. A bye is just a free win. The result is the exact same.

Brock
01-01-2007, 03:13 PM
A bye is just a free win.

:spock: If that's true, chalk up a couple more playoff wins for Schottenheimer.

Reerun_KC
01-01-2007, 03:15 PM
It is funny to see people argue the same point from so many different angles...


yes the Chiefs had to win, I am not discounting any of it. We are in the playoffs and that is all that matters....

I hope we run to the Championship game... Wont hurt my feelings or pocketbook any.

kcfanXIII
01-01-2007, 03:16 PM
we're in the playoffs because the ghost of lamar hunt pushed a cinci field goal right, and then helped guide nedny's kick through the up rights. we have fate on our side this year. now we get our chance to get even with the colts for 95 and 03. FAQ peyton!!!!

wazu
01-01-2007, 03:21 PM
:spock: If that's true, chalk up a couple more playoff wins for Schottenheimer.

I guess I basically already do. Wins, byes, whatever gets you one round closer to the promised land. The playoffs are designed to reward exceptional regular season teams by automatically advancing to round 2.

Aside from it being a more "fun" for me as a fan to see a wild card win than it is to sit through a bye week, I really don't see the difference.