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petegz28
01-02-2007, 12:50 PM
Can they take him off the IR or did Carl just screw us big time?

PastorMikH
01-02-2007, 12:55 PM
It is my understanding that once you are on IR, you cannot play anymore that season. If players could be moved off IR, teams would be using IR to keep a deeper roster for a given year.

ct
01-02-2007, 12:57 PM
nope, he's done.

petegz28
01-02-2007, 12:58 PM
King Carl screws us once again.

morphius
01-02-2007, 12:59 PM
We could cut him and sign him again, of course then you take a risk with waivers and what not.

Fire Me Boy!
01-02-2007, 01:00 PM
We could cut him and sign him again, of course then you take a risk with waivers and what not.
No way he'd make it past waivers.

headsnap
01-02-2007, 01:00 PM
though Dunn is one of my favorite Chiefs, we did well without him last week and we will make due without him in Indy.

KILLER_CLOWN
01-02-2007, 01:01 PM
I believe Herm said he will require surgery so i dun think so.

petegz28
01-02-2007, 01:02 PM
though Dunn is one of my favorite Chiefs, we did well without him last week and we will make due without him in Indy.


This is true. And the Jags have a top rated D. So maybe some silver lining there.

htismaqe
01-02-2007, 01:04 PM
How did Carl screw anybody? If he's on IR, he's HURT. How is he of use to use if he's HURT?

Fire Me Boy!
01-02-2007, 01:05 PM
I believe Herm said he will require surgery so i dun think so.
Dunn allegedly told JWhit that he's played with it for six weeks and could have played four more... it was a mistake to put him on IR, but CP apparently was certain we were done for the year.

El Jefe
01-02-2007, 01:06 PM
Yeah I agree it is a huge loss, but with the way we did against the Jags D-Line I think we will be fine. The Jags D-Line is way better than the Colts, the only need to worry about that decision is if we win and face SD, we would need him there.

headsnap
01-02-2007, 01:06 PM
How did Carl screw anybody? If he's on IR, he's HURT. How is he of use to use if he's HURT?
Carl could have waited til later to smack him in the back with the baseball bat. ;)

Fire Me Boy!
01-02-2007, 01:06 PM
How did Carl screw anybody? If he's on IR, he's HURT. How is he of use to use if he's HURT?


From Whitlock's article... http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/16363662.htm

When Dunn left Arrowhead, he told me that assistant general manager Denny Thum told him that the Chiefs regretted placing Dunn on IR and they wouldn’t have done it if they thought they were going to qualify for the playoffs.

Dunn was visibly disappointed.

“I could play four more games,” said Dunn, who admitted he’ll undergo surgery this offseason. “I’ve been playing with it.”

Bob Dole
01-02-2007, 01:08 PM
We could cut him and sign him again, of course then you take a risk with waivers and what not.

Bob Dole was under the impression that the claiming period ended with the conclusion of the regular season.

But assuming it doesn't, is the waiver system open to all clubs or only those clubs playing in the postseason. If it's limited to only those teams playing in the postseason, we'd get first shot at claiming anyone off waivers.

Wouldn't THAT be a sweet loophole?

Fire Me Boy!
01-02-2007, 01:10 PM
That would be awesome. Not gonna happen, but that would be sweet.

Bob Dole
01-02-2007, 01:11 PM
How did Carl screw anybody? If he's on IR, he's HURT. How is he of use to use if he's HURT?


CARL SCREWED JASON DUNN AND EVERY REAL CHIEFS FAN ON THE PLANET! THAT'S WHAT CARL PETERSON DOES!!!11!! WHY ELSE WOULD DAMON HUARD BE SITTING ON THE BENCH???? KING CARL NEEDS TO BE DETHRONED!!!!1!!

Wa-Z
01-02-2007, 01:14 PM
Could he have played anyway?

petegz28
01-02-2007, 01:14 PM
How did Carl screw anybody? If he's on IR, he's HURT. How is he of use to use if he's HURT?


He was so hurt he played all year with the injury. Face it smaq Peretson moved him to IR to make room for some practice squad guys and it might come back to bite us in the ass.

Dunn claims he has played all year with the injury and could go 4 more games.

petegz28
01-02-2007, 01:16 PM
CARL SCREWED JASON DUNN AND EVERY REAL CHIEFS FAN ON THE PLANET! THAT'S WHAT CARL PETERSON DOES!!!11!! WHY ELSE WOULD DAMON HUARD BE SITTING ON THE BENCH???? KING CARL NEEDS TO BE DETHRONED!!!!1!!


Probably because Huard isn't as good as Bob Dole thinks?

Maybe if people like Kennison keep making all world catches he is. Nevermind the 1 fumble a game Huard was good for.

Or the 8 ft passes he got lucky a few times weren't picked off or didn't take guys out for the year.

morphius
01-02-2007, 01:17 PM
Bob Dole was under the impression that the claiming period ended with the conclusion of the regular season.

But assuming it doesn't, is the waiver system open to all clubs or only those clubs playing in the postseason. If it's limited to only those teams playing in the postseason, we'd get first shot at claiming anyone off waivers.

Wouldn't THAT be a sweet loophole?
That would be a sweet loophole, though we are the Chiefs so we would do it, and then the NFL would determine that it was illegal and will instead void the contract and take our second round draft pick, and then give it to Denver.

Bob Dole
01-02-2007, 01:20 PM
Probably because Huard isn't as good as Bob Dole thinks?

Maybe if people like Kennison keep making all world catches he is. Nevermind the 1 fumble a game Huard was good for.

Or the 8 ft passes he got lucky a few times weren't picked off or didn't take guys out for the year.

LOL LOL LOL!!!11!! KENNISON IS AT BEST A THIRD RECEIVER ON ANY TEAM NOT RULED BY KING CARL. YOU PROBABLY DON'T EVEN HAVE SEASON TICKETS POSER!!!1!

petegz28
01-02-2007, 01:24 PM
LOL LOL LOL!!!11!! KENNISON IS AT BEST A THIRD RECEIVER ON ANY TEAM NOT RULED BY KING CARL. YOU PROBABLY DON'T EVEN HAVE SEASON TICKETS POSER!!!1!


Was there a point somewhere in your keyboard commando rant?

Bob Dole
01-02-2007, 01:27 PM
Was there a point somewhere in your keyboard commando rant?

HAHAHAHAHA!!!1! WHAT DID YOU MAKE ON THE SAT? DO YOU EVEN _LIKE_ PIE???!!?? WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU GOT A CARE PACKAGE FROM A HEAD COACH? HAVE YOU ALWAYS LACKED A SARCASM METER OR DID YOU BREAK YOURS WHEN YOU THREW IT AT THE TV DURING THE CLEVELAND GAME????

petegz28
01-02-2007, 01:29 PM
HAHAHAHAHA!!!1! WHAT DID YOU MAKE ON THE SAT? DO YOU EVEN _LIKE_ PIE???!!?? WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU GOT A CARE PACKAGE FROM A HEAD COACH? HAVE YOU ALWAYS LACKED A SARCASM METER OR DID YOU BREAK YOURS WHEN YOU THREW IT AT THE TV DURING THE CLEVELAND GAME????


Cleveland was Green's fault? And is your CAPS key stuck or has Bob Dole been hitting the viagra hard?

Bob Dole
01-02-2007, 01:33 PM
Cleveland was Green's fault? And is your CAPS key stuck or has Bob Dole been hitting the viagra hard?

*sigh*

htismaqe
01-02-2007, 01:34 PM
Dunn allegedly told JWhit that he's played with it for six weeks and could have played four more... it was a mistake to put him on IR, but CP apparently was certain we were done for the year.

Everybody here was certain we were done for the year, too. I guess that's what he gets for listening to the geniouses at Chiefsplanet.

Fire Me Boy!
01-02-2007, 01:37 PM
Everybody here was certain we were done for the year, too. I guess that's what he gets for listening to the geniouses at Chiefsplanet.
You're right, and I was less than optimistic as well... I don't blame CP for the decision. It's unfortunate, yes, but a mistake MANY of us would have made.

Scaga
01-02-2007, 01:40 PM
Maybe we should just put him in a #12 jersey, paint him white, and tell the refs Croyle has learned to play TE?

Hey, it worked in the movie "White Chicks".

:eek:

NFL16
01-02-2007, 01:41 PM
Dunn allegedly told JWhit that he's played with it for six weeks and could have played four more... it was a mistake to put him on IR, but CP apparently was certain we were done for the year.

If Carl really did put him on IR just because he was "sure" that we wouldn't get into the playoffs hes a dumbass. Whats the point of doing that unless your TOTALLY sure that your not in. Jason himself said that he could of played through it...

Is there an advantage to putting him on the IR before the season ends???

petegz28
01-02-2007, 01:45 PM
Everybody here was certain we were done for the year, too. I guess that's what he gets for listening to the geniouses at Chiefsplanet.


Sorry smaq I have to disagree. Fans had them done. But as a GM as long as there is a chance you have to cater to that happening. You can't throw in the towel on the best blocking TE in the league simply because the odds are against you if YOU are the ine in charge of the team.

alpha_omega
01-02-2007, 02:03 PM
If he really has a herniated disk...he probably shouldn't be playing anyway.

He may be the best blocking TE in the league...but not if his back is hurting.

He could risk a more severe injury. IMHO.

jAZ
01-02-2007, 02:05 PM
*sigh*
ROFL

petegz28
01-02-2007, 02:10 PM
If he really has a herniated disk...he probably shouldn't be playing anyway.

He may be the best blocking TE in the league...but not if his back is hurting.

He could risk a more severe injury. IMHO.


K then how was he cleard to play up until now then?

John_Wayne
01-02-2007, 02:12 PM
I'd rather have Dunn, but I would imagine that they'll use Bober or Terry as the blocking TE when needed. The Chiefs website shows Turley as placed on IR, but he's also listed on the depth chart as the #1 RT.

alpha_omega
01-02-2007, 02:34 PM
K then how was he cleard to play up until now then?

Don't know...

I was merely speaking on the viability of Dunn when his back is hurting.

petegz28
01-02-2007, 02:58 PM
Don't know...

I was merely speaking on the viability of Dunn when his back is hurting.


Which sends me back to Carl being a bonehead and benching someone we need for the playoffs. I am disappointed in CP right now. Seems he threw in the towel with the fans. But he is not a fan he runs the team and it looks bad when your GM is throwing in the towel before all the cards are played and you still have a chance.

htismaqe
01-02-2007, 03:19 PM
If he really has a herniated disk...he probably shouldn't be playing anyway.

He may be the best blocking TE in the league...but not if his back is hurting.

He could risk a more severe injury. IMHO.

Who told you that you were allowed to be rational here?

alpha_omega
01-02-2007, 03:30 PM
Who told you that you were allowed to be rational here?


Yep...should have known better.

Cave Johnson
01-02-2007, 03:40 PM
Don't know...

I was merely speaking on the viability of Dunn when his back is hurting.

Holy hell. How hard is this to understand.

To recap. Dunn has played with this injury for the last 6 weeks (prior to Week 17). He stated that he could play another 4 games (i.e. though the SB) with the injury.

Over the last 6 weeks, LJ has rushed for 126.7 yards per game, with a 4.58 YPC average. In the 10 weeks prior to Dunn's injury, he averaged 99.3 YPG and 4.12 YPC. Tell me exactly how Dunn has been ineffective with his injury?

It's a bad decision. Put down the Kool-aid.

alpha_omega
01-02-2007, 04:33 PM
Tell me exactly how Dunn has been ineffective with his injury?
It's a bad decision. Put down the Kool-aid.

No kool-aid here; i am not defending the IR decision. Just reviewing the facts.

Never said JD has been ineffective, merely just stating that this could become a problem...granted he says he has played with it this long. But...it could become a more severe problem at any time.

Football aside, a herniated disc is nothing to mess around with.

htismaqe
01-02-2007, 04:49 PM
No kool-aid here; i am not defending the IR decision. Just reviewing the facts.

Never said JD has been ineffective, merely just stating that this could become a problem...granted he says he has played with it this long. But...it could become a more severe problem at any time.

Football aside, a herniated disc is nothing to mess around with.

Just an FYI, but any response that isn't COMPLETELY critical of Herm and/or Carl is considered a de facto "defense" of Carl and/or Herm.

Logical
01-02-2007, 05:38 PM
Bob Dole was under the impression that the claiming period ended with the conclusion of the regular season.

But assuming it doesn't, is the waiver system open to all clubs or only those clubs playing in the postseason. If it's limited to only those teams playing in the postseason, we'd get first shot at claiming anyone off waivers.

Wouldn't THAT be a sweet loophole?

Not really true, the two wildcards in the NFC would be ahead of us.

Logical
01-02-2007, 05:43 PM
Sorry smaq I have to disagree. Fans had them done. But as a GM as long as there is a chance you have to cater to that happening. You can't throw in the towel on the best blocking TE in the league simply because the odds are against you if YOU are the ine in charge of the team.

Dude you seriously need to gain a sense of humor and buy a sarcasm meter. You are coming across as a nit wit in this thread.

Bob Dole
01-02-2007, 05:44 PM
Not really true, the two wildcards in the NFC would be ahead of us.

What's the NFC?

Logical
01-02-2007, 05:47 PM
What's the NFC?ROFL

Anyone else and I would have took it seriously.

Skip Towne
01-02-2007, 06:04 PM
So we lost Dunn for the rest of the year due to a bumblef*ck by our GM. I guess we have been "Carl Petersonned". Titus, please add this term to the lexicon. It will be useful in the future as we get Carl Petersonned several times each year.

el borracho
01-02-2007, 06:14 PM
What's the NFC?
Finger licking good? :shrug:

Logical
01-02-2007, 07:11 PM
Finger licking good? :shrug:

National Football Conference you know the one that has 8-8 Giants and two 9-7 teams in the playoffs.