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Chiefnj
01-10-2007, 02:17 PM
DT makes the final 25

http://www.profootballhof.com/hall/story.jsp?story_id=2246


Modern-Era Semifinalists for 07
November 16, 2006


The complete list of 25 modern-era semifinalists includes:



Terrell Davis - RB - 1995-2001 Denver Broncos
Dermontti Dawson - C - 1988-2000 Pittsburgh Steelers
Fred Dean - DE - 1975-1981 San Diego Chargers, 1981-1985 San Francisco 49ers
Richard Dent - DE - 1983-1993, 1995 Chicago Bears, 1994 San Francisco 49ers, 1996 Indianapolis Colts, 1997 Philadelphia Eagles
Randy Gradishar - LB - 1974-1983 Denver Broncos


Kevin Greene - LB/DE - 1985-1992 Los Angeles Rams, 1993-1995 Pittsburgh Steelers, 1996, 1998-1999 Carolina Panthers, 1997 San Francisco 49ers
Russ Grimm - G - 1981-1991 Washington Redskins
Ray Guy - P - 1973-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders
Charles Haley - DE/LB - 1986-1991, 1999 San Francisco 49ers, 1992-1996 Dallas Cowboys
Lester Hayes - CB - 1977-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders


Michael Irvin - WR - 1988-1999 Dallas Cowboys
Bob Kuechenberg - G - 1970-1984 Miami Dolphins
Bruce Matthews - G/T/C - 1983-2001 Houston Oilers/Tennessee Oilers/Titans
Randall McDaniel - G - 1988-1999 Minnesota Vikings, 2000-2001 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Art Modell - Owner - 1961-1995 Cleveland Browns, 1996-2003 Baltimore Ravens

Art Monk - WR - 1980-1993 Washington Redskins, 1994 New York Jets, 1995 Philadelphia Eagles
Andre Reed - WR -1985-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Washington Redskins
Ken Stabler - QB - 1970-1979 Oakland Raiders, 1980-1981 Houston Oilers, 1982-1984 New Orleans Saints
Paul Tagliabue - Commissioner - 1989-2006 National Football League
Derrick Thomas - LB - 1989-1999 Kansas City Chiefs

Thurman Thomas - RB - 1988-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Miami Dolphins
Andre Tippett - LB - 1982-1993 New England Patriots, injured 1989
Roger Wehrli - CB - 1969-1982 St. Louis Cardinals
George Young - GM/Administrator - 1968-1974 Baltimore Colts, 1975-1978 Miami Dolphins, 1979-1997 New York Giants, 1998-2001 National Football League
Gary Zimmerman - T - 1986-1992 Minnesota Vikings, 1993-1997 Denver Broncos



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bkkcoh
01-10-2007, 02:23 PM
What did Tags do in order to be in the final 25????

ChiefsCountry
01-10-2007, 02:33 PM
Here is the 5 I think it should be:

Derrick Thomas
Ray Guy
Bruce Matthews
George Young
Art Monk

tomahawk kid
01-10-2007, 02:34 PM
Looks like this could be DT's best shot so far.

StcChief
01-10-2007, 02:37 PM
DT likely gets pimped again. they will let Tags in instead of deserving Mgr.

Halfcan
01-10-2007, 02:39 PM
DT better get in. The HOF voters are real dipshits for not voting him in the first time.

RJ
01-10-2007, 02:42 PM
If I had a vote.

DT
Terrell Davis
Bruce Matthews
Art Monk
George Young

Irvin and Monk are close but I'd let Monk in first since he's been retired longer.

Would I be wrong in assuming Matthews is a lock?

FAX
01-10-2007, 02:43 PM
Might be too early for Matthews, but what about Grimm or the Snake?

FAX

ChiefsCountry
01-10-2007, 02:44 PM
Would I be wrong in assuming Matthews is a lock?

No, he was dominating in the NFL most of his years at two different positions.

DaneMcCloud
01-10-2007, 02:44 PM
Here is the 5 I think it should be:

Derrick Thomas
Ray Guy
Bruce Matthews
George Young
Art Monk

Art Monk and Ray Guy (a freakin' punter!) over Richard Dent and Charles Haley? No way.

The Hall of Fame voters look at not only stats, but Super Bowl victories. Richard Dent led the 1985 Bears defense and played at a high level long after that. Charles Haley was the first person with 5 Super Bowl rings (2 with SF and 3 with the Cowboys).

Ray Guy was a PUNTER. He may have been the best punter of all time, but HOF? I don't think so.

ChiefsCountry
01-10-2007, 02:51 PM
Ray Guy was a PUNTER. He may have been the best punter of all time, but HOF? I don't think so.

Jan Stenrud was a kicker, and Guy is in the same class. He was the best of all-time that is hall worthy IMO.

RJ
01-10-2007, 02:51 PM
Art Monk and Ray Guy (a freakin' punter!) over Richard Dent and Charles Haley? No way.

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Art Monk at one time was the career receptions leader and played in a few SB's himself. I think he's deserving. Agree about Guy, though. Punters just don't have the impact to earn the game's highest honor, IMO.

crazycoffey
01-10-2007, 02:51 PM
DT
Dent
Monk or Irving, but not both (I like Monk more, but think the voters well like Irving more
Matthews, what an ironman
George young, man he was GM of some pretty good teams aroung their good years. I'm going off memory on this fact.

They are saying the final 17 were announced

crazycoffey
01-10-2007, 02:54 PM
Listed alphabetically, the 17 finalists with their positions, teams, and years active follow:

Fred Dean (http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=261) - Defensive End - 1975-1981 San Diego Chargers, 1981-1985 San Francisco 49ers
Richard Dent (http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=240) - Defensive End - 1983-1993, 1995 Chicago Bears, 1994 San Francisco 49ers, 1996 Indianapolis Colts, 1997 Philadelphia Eagles
Russ Grimm (http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=244) - Guard - 1981-1991 Washington Redskins
Ray Guy (http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=262) - Punter - 1973-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders
Gene Hickerson (http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/263) - Guard - 1958-1973 Cleveland Browns
Michael Irvin (http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/246) - Wide Receiver - 1988-1999 Dallas Cowboys
Bob Kuechenberg (http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=247) - Guard - 1970-1984 Miami Dolphins
Bruce Matthews (http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/264) - Guard, Tackle, Center - 1983-2001 Houston Oilers/Tennessee Oilers/Titans
Art Monk (http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=248) - Wide Receiver - 1980-1993 Washington Redskins, 1994 New York Jets, 1995 Philadelphia Eagles
Andre Reed (http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=265) - Wide Receiver - 1985-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Washington Redskins
Charlie Sanders (http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=266) - Tight End - 1968-1977 Detroit Lions
Paul Tagliabue (http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=267) - NFL Commissioner - 1989-2006
Derrick Thomas (http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/249) - Linebacker - 1989-1999 Kansas City Chiefs
Thurman Thomas (http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=253) - Running Back - 1988-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Miami Dolphins
Andre Tippett (http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=268) - Linebacker - 1982-1993 New England Patriots
Roger Wehrli (http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=250) - Cornerback - 1969-1982 St. Louis Cardinals
Gary Zimmerman (http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=259) - Tackle - 1986-1992 Minnesota Vikings, 1993-1997 Denver Broncos

Dent, Grimm, Guy, Hickerson, Irvin, Kuechenberg, Monk, Derrick Thomas, Thurman Thomas, Wehrli, and Zimmerman have all been finalists in previous years.

Coach
01-10-2007, 02:59 PM
What did Tags do in order to be in the final 25????

He has made the NFL what it is right now. Revenue sharing, TV deals, etc etc.

He's done alot for the sport, as a commish, unlike the idiot in MLB and the idiot in NHL.

crazycoffey
01-10-2007, 03:01 PM
Terrell Davis
Dermontti Dawson
Randy Gradishar
Kevin Greene
Charles Haley
Lester Hayes
Randall McDaniel
Art Modell
Ken Stabler

first to get cut



Charlie Sanders
Gene Hickerson


were added

DaneMcCloud
01-10-2007, 04:01 PM
Art Monk at one time was the career receptions leader and played in a few SB's himself. I think he's deserving. Agree about Guy, though. Punters just don't have the impact to earn the game's highest honor, IMO.

Art Monk's been eligible for years now but the HOF voters don't seem too inclined to vote him in. His YAC was very low and his numbers were padded by short, dump off catches. I doubt he makes it this year.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that Derrick Thomas won't make it in this year, either. Just a hunch.

Ari Chi3fs
01-10-2007, 04:32 PM
Art Modell, Tagliabue, Bruce Matthews, Richard Dent, Derrick Thomas

I hope they dont let Terdell Davis in. **** the DOnkos.

crazycoffey
01-10-2007, 04:37 PM
Art Modell, Tagliabue, Bruce Matthews, Richard Dent, Derrick Thomas

I hope they dont let Terdell Davis in. **** the DOnkos.

Modell didn't make the cut from 25 to 17, neither did T. Davis

Chiefnj
01-10-2007, 04:37 PM
If you are a statistics voter, you've got to like Andre Reed.

Receptions: #5 all time.
Receiving Yards: #8 all time.
Receiving TD's: #10 all time.

crazycoffey
01-10-2007, 04:52 PM
Reed and Irvin are both good, I think in the WR battle I am pulling for monk.

melbar
01-10-2007, 05:14 PM
What no love for Kevin Greene? The guy is in the top 5 for sacks and was a monster LB for several years. Jumping teams probably hurt his legasy, but definately HOF material.

crazycoffey
01-10-2007, 05:16 PM
What no love for Kevin Greene? The guy is in the top 5 for sacks and was a monster LB for several years. Jumping teams probably hurt his legasy, but definately HOF material.

I thought he was a good player, he made the list of 25, but not the list to 17.

melbar
01-10-2007, 05:16 PM
Also wanted to say that DT is the icon of our franchise. How many DT Jerseys do you still see in the stands today. Didnt get to pad his stats due to his untimely death, but he was the star on some incredible Defenses in the 90's.

Count Alex's Losses
01-10-2007, 05:26 PM
But where is Terrell Davis?

crazycoffey
01-10-2007, 05:35 PM
But where is Terrell Davis?


he made the list of 25, but not the cut to 17 today.

crazycoffey
01-10-2007, 05:38 PM
http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/story.jsp?story_id=2285

Count Alex's Losses
01-10-2007, 05:43 PM
he made the list of 25, but not the cut to 17 today.

I know. I'm razzing Donk fans.

jwhit
01-10-2007, 06:29 PM
randall mcdaniel not making the cut is NOT a good sign for Will Shields. mcdaniel played in like 12 straight pro bowls. he and will shields are the same player.

no playoff success, let alone a super bowl, might bite will shields in the rear when it comes hall of fame time..

blueballs
01-10-2007, 06:30 PM
did he not miss a game
too

KurtCobain
01-10-2007, 06:49 PM
Derrick Thomas
Art Monk
Charles Haley
Bruce Matthews
Michael Irvin

boogblaster
01-10-2007, 06:52 PM
DT..Dent..Guy..Thurman Thomas any of them OK for me...

Deberg_1990
01-10-2007, 07:32 PM
Irvin
Guy
Thurman Thomas
DT
Haley
Monk


Simple as that...

Over-Head
01-10-2007, 07:47 PM
Stabler, Hayes, Guy, and a few others :D

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-10-2007, 08:56 PM
We need to have Rainman talk about his love for Thurman Thomas LMAO

KChiefs1
01-10-2007, 09:45 PM
DT looks like a lock this year.

Deberg_1990
01-10-2007, 09:48 PM
We need to have Rainman talk about his love for Thurman Thomas LMAO

Absolutely Thurman Thomas deserves to be there. He was one of the best RB's of his era. If not for a Scott Norwood wide right, he would have been the MVP of that Super Bowl.

milkman
01-10-2007, 09:51 PM
Absolutely Thurman Thomas deserves to be there. He was one of the best RB's of his era. If not for a Scott Norwood wide right, he would have been the MVP of that Super Bowl.

And when you think about it, he is really the guy that made the versatile RB such a hot commodity in today's NFL.

He is the prototype.

Mecca
01-10-2007, 09:53 PM
Wait till Rainman talks about how he "makes faces" that is one of the most hilarious things ever....

Thurman Thomas should have been a first ballot HOFer.

Count Alex's Losses
01-10-2007, 09:58 PM
I despise Thurman Thomas. He weighed 198 pounds and 194 of those were ego.

I still remember him claiming that he was better than Barry Sanders. He couldn't be Sanders' water boy.

If I recall correctly, they started Thurman over Barry because Thurman was an upperclassman. As soon as Thurman left, Barry destroyed all of his records, and I think Thurman didn't like that, what with having an ego the size of an oil tanker.

Are you .... are you criticizing Barry Sanders? You can't do that. If you want to criticize someone, pick someone who deserves it. Like maybe ......... Thurman Thomas.

Mecca
01-10-2007, 09:59 PM
Find the quotes about how he "made faces at the Chiefs from the sideline" it's one of the funniest/most retarded things ever.

Rain Man
01-10-2007, 10:53 PM
Thurman Thomas? Did someone mention Thurman Thomas? I HATE that guy. HATE HIM! He brings dishonor to pro football. He's just Terrell Owens without the natural talent.

And stop ringing that bell. It makes me salivate, and I don't know why.

Rain Man
01-10-2007, 10:54 PM
Absolutely Thurman Thomas deserves to be there. He was one of the best RB's of his era. If not for a Scott Norwood wide right, he would have been the MVP of that Super Bowl.

Go to heck.

FAX
01-10-2007, 10:54 PM
What, exactly, do you have against Thurman, Mr. Rain Man?

What sponsors your animosity?

FAX

Mecca
01-10-2007, 10:54 PM
Thurman Thomas? Did someone mention Thurman Thomas? I HATE that guy. HATE HIM! He brings dishonor to pro football. He's just Terrell Owens without the natural talent.

And stop ringing that bell. It makes me salivate, and I don't know why.

But he's still a HOF player....

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-10-2007, 10:55 PM
ROFL

That's awesome. Nice job, Rain Man :thumb:

Rain Man
01-10-2007, 10:55 PM
And when you think about it, he is really the guy that made the versatile RB such a hot commodity in today's NFL.

He is the prototype.

Go to heck.

Rain Man
01-10-2007, 10:56 PM
But he's still a HOF player....


Go to heck.

Mecca
01-10-2007, 10:56 PM
He's just mad Thurman made the Chiefs defense look like clowns in their biggest game.

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-10-2007, 10:57 PM
He's just mad Thurman made the Chiefs defense look like clowns in their biggest game.

Counter Trey
Counter Trey
Counter Trey

11 year old Hamas straps on a suicide vest by the 10 minute mark of the second quarter.

:bang:

FAX
01-10-2007, 10:58 PM
He's just mad Thurman made the Chiefs defense look like clowns in their biggest game.

Ah.

Thanks, Mr. Mecca.

FAX

Mecca
01-10-2007, 11:00 PM
I was like 13 at the time and it was just laughable how awful he made and the Bills in general made us look.

Rain Man
01-10-2007, 11:02 PM
What, exactly, do you have against Thurman, Mr. Rain Man?

What sponsors your animosity?

FAX


Everything about the guy reeks of something I don't like.

1. He constantly claimed to be the best running back in the league. Ha! What a laugh. He wasn't even Barry Sanders' warmup act.

2. He actually stated that he was better than Barry Sanders. If Barry Sanders was Seinfeld, Thurman Thomas was Small Wonder.

3. Ego, ego, ego.

4. In the playoff game against the Chiefs, after it became apparent that the Chiefs were going to lose so the Bills could go get humiliated again, Thomas was on the sidelines MAKING FACES at the Chiefs sideline. He was making childish faces at us.

I flat-out can't stand the guy. He represents all that is bad about professional athletes.

Rain Man
01-10-2007, 11:04 PM
He's just mad Thurman made the Chiefs defense look like clowns in their biggest game.

Go to heck in a bucket.



I couldn't stand the guy even before the game. That game solidified his spot in the frozen seventh circle of my fan hell.

Mecca
01-10-2007, 11:05 PM
Everything about the guy reeks of something I don't like.

1. He constantly claimed to be the best running back in the league. Ha! What a laugh. He wasn't even Barry Sanders' warmup act.

2. He actually stated that he was better than Barry Sanders. If Barry Sanders was Seinfeld, Thurman Thomas was Small Wonder.

3. Ego, ego, ego.

4. In the playoff game against the Chiefs, after it became apparent that the Chiefs were going to lose so the Bills could go get humiliated again, Thomas was on the sidelines MAKING FACES at the Chiefs sideline. He was making childish faces at us.

I flat-out can't stand the guy. He represents all that is bad about professional athletes.

The making faces thing amuses me to no end........well seeing as they destroyed the Chiefs he felt he'd put the full clown suit on them.

It could be argued as an overall player he was better than Barry Sanders...he was damn sure a better reciever and a more complete player. He just wasn't a highlight reel.

WilliamTheIrish
01-10-2007, 11:06 PM
My favorite memory of Thurman was when he couldn't find his helmet right before the the start of play in the Super Bowl.

You'd think that Thomas wouldn't have that trouble since his head was so large the helmet looked like it was made for a hydrocephalic elephant. (or Mark Kelso.)

FAX
01-10-2007, 11:11 PM
Was he doing the tongue sticking out faces, or the buggy eyed faces, or were they the stretchy mouth push your nose up some faces?

FAX

Rain Man
01-10-2007, 11:27 PM
The making faces thing amuses me to no end........well seeing as they destroyed the Chiefs he felt he'd put the full clown suit on them.

It could be argued as an overall player he was better than Barry Sanders...he was damn sure a better reciever and a more complete player. He just wasn't a highlight reel.

You must be kidding me. Thomas was a divisive player on his team. Sanders was the ultimate team player. For his career, Thomas averaged 4.2 yards per carry. Sanders averaged 5.0. Think about that. Every time that Sanders touched the ball, you could expect him to gain 20 percent more yardage than Thurman "Second Rate" Thomas.

Super Bowls? You want to talk Super Bowls? Thomas got carried to them on strong teams, and he choked 3 out of 4 times. His rushing totals in 4 Super Bowls were 135 yards, 13 yards, 19 yards, and 37 yards. Whoop-di-do.

I'm also trying to find stats on their performances when they were both on the same team at Oklahoma State. For some reason, I can't find career stats, but I'm willing to bet that Sanders had a higher yards per carry.

Rain Man
01-10-2007, 11:29 PM
Was he doing the tongue sticking out faces, or the buggy eyed faces, or were they the stretchy mouth push your nose up some faces?

FAX

He put his thumbs in his wax-filthy ears and did the moose antlers thing, waving his hands back and forth. He should have been suspended for it.

SPchief
01-10-2007, 11:30 PM
I'm getting the feeling that Rainman doesn't like Thurman Thomas.

Mecca
01-10-2007, 11:32 PM
Fun Fact Barry Sanders lost the most yards in NFL history......he made big plays but also made alot of negative plays.

Rain Man
01-10-2007, 11:33 PM
Show me a person who likes Thurman Thomas, and I'll show you a water balloon target if I could get my office window open.

SPchief
01-10-2007, 11:35 PM
Show me a person who likes Thurman Thomas, and I'll show you a water balloon target if I could get my office window open.


I'm pretty sure that Da Face is a Thurman Thomas fan.

FAX
01-10-2007, 11:36 PM
He put his thumbs in his wax-filthy ears and did the moose antlers thing, waving his hands back and forth. He should have been suspended for it.

Good God! The Bullwinkle!!

The lowly bastard. One would think such an act would have been considered unsportsmanlike. Maybe they thought he was calling in a play?

FAX

Mecca
01-10-2007, 11:36 PM
Good God! The Bullwinkle!!

The lowly bastard. One would think such an act would have been considered unsportsmanlike. Maybe they thought he was calling in a play?

FAX

He just knew Marty had a squirrel up his ass that day.

DaFace
01-10-2007, 11:40 PM
I'm pretty sure that Da Face is a Thurman Thomas fan.

Hmmm...I don't think so, but I bet I could spot one on the street if that means we can throw water balloons out the window.

Rain Man
01-10-2007, 11:40 PM
Fun Fact Barry Sanders lost the most yards in NFL history......he made big plays but also made alot of negative plays.

15,000 yards at 5 yards per carry. What is so difficult to understand about that?

Barry Sanders gained 15,269 yards on 3,062 carries. Do you know how many carries Thomas would have needed to get that yardage? 3,638, that's how many.

If Barry Sanders played two seasons at 288 carries each, and DIDN'T GAIN A SINGLE YARD, then his yards per carry would be equal to Thomas' average. Two seasons, 288 carries per season, 0 yards.

Thomas is a second-rate never-was.

Rain Man
01-10-2007, 11:42 PM
Hmmm...I don't think so, but I bet I could spot one on the street if that means we can throw water balloons out the window.

Do you know what Mecca looks like? Perhaps we could go on a business trip to his community.

Mecca
01-10-2007, 11:43 PM
15,000 yards at 5 yards per carry. What is so difficult to understand about that?

Barry Sanders gained 15,269 yards on 3,062 carries. Do you know how many carries Thomas would have needed to get that yardage? 3,638, that's how many.

If Barry Sanders played two seasons at 288 carries each, and DIDN'T GAIN A SINGLE YARD, then his yards per carry would be equal to Thomas' average. Two seasons, 288 carries per season, 0 yards.

Thomas is a second-rate never-was.

What if you go by.......total yards. Thomas was the first of the kind of backs we see now that put up rushing and recieving yards that eclipse 2000 every year.

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-10-2007, 11:43 PM
Barry Sanders also still owns the all time NCAA single season rushing yardage and touchdown mark.

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-10-2007, 11:44 PM
What if you go by.......total yards. Thomas was the first of the kind of backs we see now that put up rushing and recieving yards that eclipse 2000 every year.

No, that would be Roger Craig, dumbass.

Mecca
01-10-2007, 11:45 PM
No, that would be Roger Craig, dumbass.

.......Thurman Thomas was alot better than Roger Craig....Thomas actually held the yards from scrimmage record at one time and was the first to eclipse 2000 total yards back to back years.

Rain Man
01-10-2007, 11:45 PM
Barry Sanders also still owns the all time NCAA single season rushing yardage and touchdown mark.

Can you find season-by-season rushing stats for Sanders and that other guy? I can't find them anywhere.

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-10-2007, 11:46 PM
Do you know what Mecca looks like? Perhaps we could go on a business trip to his community.

SPchief
01-10-2007, 11:46 PM
What if you go by.......total yards. Thomas was the first of the kind of backs we see now that put up rushing and recieving yards that eclipse 2000 every year.


Do you just like to argue?


Are you really saying that Thurman Thomas was greater than Barry Sanders?

My god you are retarded

Mecca
01-10-2007, 11:47 PM
Do you just like to argue?


Are you really saying that Thurman Thomas was greater than Barry Sanders?

My god you are retarded

As a pure runner no.........but it's also a stupid comparison. They're completely different kind of backs.

I like to argue with Rain man about this because his irrational hate of Thomas is amusing. Just because he wasn't Barry Sanders doesn't make him not a HOF player.

I however do think he was a more complete player than Sanders.

DaFace
01-10-2007, 11:48 PM
Do you know what Mecca looks like? Perhaps we could go on a business trip to his community.

We're in business...

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=3647063&postcount=224

Rain Man
01-10-2007, 11:49 PM
Thomas averaged 343 yards receiving per season, and Sanders average 292.

Thomas averaged 929 yards rushing per season, and Sanders averaged 1,527.

Sanders gained more in the first ten games of each season than Thomas gained in 16.

Mecca
01-10-2007, 11:50 PM
If one of you mofos hits me with a water balloon I'll do alot more than make faces....

DaFace
01-10-2007, 11:52 PM
If one of you mofos hits me with a water balloon I'll do alot more than make faces....

I must be tired. I read the word as being "feces". :shake:

Rain Man
01-10-2007, 11:52 PM
As a pure runner no.........but it's also a stupid comparison. They're completely different kind of backs.

I like to argue with Rain man about this because his irrational hate of Thomas is amusing. Just because he wasn't Barry Sanders doesn't make him not a HOF player.

I however do think he was a more complete player than Sanders.

More complete? He gained, on average, 3 yards more per game in receptions. He gained 38 fewer yards rushing. More complete? Thomas didn't do diddlypoo.

Mecca
01-10-2007, 11:53 PM
I must be tired. I read the word as being "feces". :shake:

......That must have been an interesting mental image.

Rain Man
01-10-2007, 11:53 PM
We're in business...

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=3647063&postcount=224


Mein gott. It's like we're hunting Sasquatch.

DaFace
01-10-2007, 11:54 PM
......That must have been an interesting mental image.

Yeah. I was wondering if you have some weird disease where you lose control of your bowels when you get wet. That could be a problem.

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-10-2007, 11:55 PM
Thomas 1613 in 1987 (his Sr. Year)
Sanders had 2628 one year later

DaFace
01-10-2007, 11:56 PM
Mein gott. It's like we're hunting Sasquatch.

Just follow the trail of feces. It'll lead us right to him.

Anyway, I'm tired, so I'll stop hijacking the thread now. Carry on.

Rain Man
01-10-2007, 11:57 PM
Thomas 1613 in 1987 (his Sr. Year)
Sanders had 2628 one year later

So...only 1,000 yards more over 12 games. That sounds about right.

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-10-2007, 11:57 PM
Mein gott. It's like we're hunting Sasquatch.
ROFL ROFL

Rain Man
01-10-2007, 11:58 PM
Yeah, yeah, me too. I have to get a little work done before bed. Say hi to the office for me, daface.

And Mecca, you're wrong, wrong, wrong! I shall not rest until I convince you.

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-10-2007, 11:59 PM
Barry Sanders was also a great kickoff returner. He holds the OK State record with 3 returns for TDs.

RedDread
01-11-2007, 12:00 AM
No way that TD gets in. His career was way to short to justify it.

Mecca
01-11-2007, 12:02 AM
If anyone can't tell.....I'm just screwing with Rain Man.......before I get called stupid 5200 times.

Jenson71
01-11-2007, 12:03 AM
No way that TD gets in. His career was way to short to justify it.

And Gale Sayers?...

Rain Man
01-11-2007, 12:11 AM
I just hate him so much. So much.

crazycoffey
01-11-2007, 11:56 AM
Derrick Thomas
Art Monk
Charles Haley
Bruce Matthews
Michael Irvin

I feel you on these selections, but Charles Haley didn't make the cut from 25 to 17, if you didn't have me on ingnore you would have seen that I posted the cut to 17 right above this post, where you made these selections.

I love you man, don't be a hatter, Don't run away, Joey.

Coach
01-11-2007, 12:01 PM
All I ask is, please keep Blob Gretz away from the introduction of DT.

Chiefnj
01-11-2007, 12:04 PM
Has the Pro Bowl always been the popularity contest and name recognition game that it is these days?

People like to use Pro Bowl appearances as a gauge to whether someone should, or shouldn't, be in the HOF. Some of the voting in recent years leads me to believe that it shouldn't be relevant whatsoever.

ChiTown
01-11-2007, 12:05 PM
No way that TD gets in. His career was way to short to justify it.

11 years is too short? wtf?