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PunkinDrublic
01-18-2007, 08:47 AM
Didn't see this posted yet but at www.helpthepens.com they're selling shirts that say "Kansas City is for Jagoffs". I really don't give a shit about hockey but now I'm hoping KC gets the Penguins just to piss these guys off. **** Pittsburgh.

chagrin
01-18-2007, 08:56 AM
Of course the Penguins suck ass, and so does "the burgh" but okay

Sully
01-18-2007, 08:57 AM
I've been trolling the Pens boards for weeks, and they are pretty brutal against our beloved town.
BUT, you have to understand, to them, we are the city trying to come in and steal their team. So I give them that they are acting out of a feeling of threat... and it makes me feel pretty optimistic that they do feel so threatened that they woud stoop to such classlessness.

Cochise
01-18-2007, 08:59 AM
They must be feeling inferior, after we stepped up and approved a measure for a state of the art arena, while they rejected theirs and are whining that the government won't build it for them.

dirk digler
01-18-2007, 09:03 AM
Can't blame them. How would you feel if some other city was trying to steal the Chiefs or the Royals?

Reerun_KC
01-18-2007, 09:05 AM
Why in the hell would anybody want to watch hockey?

I could careless if KC gets a hockey team or not.
I wont spend a dime on them if they come to KC... So let them have the pengiuns...

Bowser
01-18-2007, 09:07 AM
F*ck 'em.

morphius
01-18-2007, 09:07 AM
Why in the hell would anybody want to watch hockey?

I could careless if KC gets a hockey team or not.
I wont spend a dime on them if they come to KC... So let them have the pengiuns...
because it is the fastest and hardest hitting sport in the US? Just a guess.

Mr. Laz
01-18-2007, 09:07 AM
they are just mad/upset because they might lose their hockey team to us ... i wouldn't take it too personally.

Reerun_KC
01-18-2007, 09:07 AM
because it is the fastest and hardest hitting sport in the US? Just a guess.


K take your word for it...

Mr. Laz
01-18-2007, 09:08 AM
because it is the fastest and hardest hitting sport in the US? Just a guess.
you gonna get season tickets to the Pens if they move to KC?

Woodrow Call
01-18-2007, 09:08 AM
If another town was trying to take the Chiefs or Royals away, I'd react the same way.

Bowser
01-18-2007, 09:08 AM
Why in the hell would anybody want to watch hockey?

I could careless if KC gets a hockey team or not.
I wont spend a dime on them if they come to KC... So let them have the pengiuns...

Brilliant post.


Not really.

morphius
01-18-2007, 09:09 AM
K take your word for it...
Not every sport is for everyone, just like I can't stand to watch golf on TV or the cooking channel.

morphius
01-18-2007, 09:10 AM
you gonna get season tickets to the Pens if they move to KC?
If I had money I would think about it, and would at least go to a few games. My wife even likes hockey, which is really odd.

Redrum_69
01-18-2007, 09:13 AM
Why in the hell would anybody want to watch hockey?



Have you ever seen Slapshot?


If not, then stfu


If so...then stfu

dirk digler
01-18-2007, 09:17 AM
Pittsburgh arena momentum builds
The Penguins, which KC hopes to attract, are expected to meet with the Pennsylvania governor today.
The Associated Press

PITTSBURGH | Kansas City hockey fans might want to keep an eye on the news out of Pittsburgh today.

Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell and local leaders are expected to meet again with the Pittsburgh Penguins as the sides appear to be getting closer to completing a deal to build a new downtown arena.

Today’s private meeting would be the first since Jan. 4, when Penguins owner Mario Lemieux came away from a preliminary session with Rendell and county and city officials saying he was “very optimistic” that an agreement could be reached.

Neither side has spoken publicly since then as negotiations have continued. The Penguins’ lease at 45-year-old Mellon Arena ends in June, and the team is free to relocate after that.

Lemieux and other team officials recently toured the construction site of the Sprint Center in Kansas City, which is hoping to land the Penguins should they decide to leave Pittsburgh.

The Pittsburgh arena talks began after the state gaming board rejected a company’s plan to build a $290 million Penguins arena for free in exchange for the license to build a downtown Pittsburgh slot-machine parlor. The board chose a competing bid by Detroit businessman Don Barden, who has agreed to pay $7.5 million a year toward a new arena but will not pay the full cost.

The Plan B proposal being discussed, first made by Rendell in March, initially called for the Penguins to pay $8.5 million up front plus about $4 million per year. An additional $7 million per year would come from the state’s take of gambling revenues.

However, it is likely that the $8.5 million payment will be covered by the Penguins selling land needed for the arena to Pittsburgh’s Sports and Exhibition Authority. The team also is expected to pay less than $3 million per year as its share of the arena’s cost.

With NHL scoring leader Sidney Crosby plus promising young players Evgeni Malkin, Jordan Staal and Marc-Andre Fleury, the Penguins have become one of the sport’s hottest properties.

morphius
01-18-2007, 09:20 AM
Pittsburgh arena momentum builds
The Penguins, which KC hopes to attract, are expected to meet with the Pennsylvania governor today.
The Associated Press

PITTSBURGH | Kansas City hockey fans might want to keep an eye on the news out of Pittsburgh today.

Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell and local leaders are expected to meet again with the Pittsburgh Penguins as the sides appear to be getting closer to completing a deal to build a new downtown arena.

Today’s private meeting would be the first since Jan. 4, when Penguins owner Mario Lemieux came away from a preliminary session with Rendell and county and city officials saying he was “very optimistic” that an agreement could be reached.

Neither side has spoken publicly since then as negotiations have continued. The Penguins’ lease at 45-year-old Mellon Arena ends in June, and the team is free to relocate after that.

Lemieux and other team officials recently toured the construction site of the Sprint Center in Kansas City, which is hoping to land the Penguins should they decide to leave Pittsburgh.

The Pittsburgh arena talks began after the state gaming board rejected a company’s plan to build a $290 million Penguins arena for free in exchange for the license to build a downtown Pittsburgh slot-machine parlor. The board chose a competing bid by Detroit businessman Don Barden, who has agreed to pay $7.5 million a year toward a new arena but will not pay the full cost.

The Plan B proposal being discussed, first made by Rendell in March, initially called for the Penguins to pay $8.5 million up front plus about $4 million per year. An additional $7 million per year would come from the state’s take of gambling revenues.

However, it is likely that the $8.5 million payment will be covered by the Penguins selling land needed for the arena to Pittsburgh’s Sports and Exhibition Authority. The team also is expected to pay less than $3 million per year as its share of the arena’s cost.

With NHL scoring leader Sidney Crosby plus promising young players Evgeni Malkin, Jordan Staal and Marc-Andre Fleury, the Penguins have become one of the sport’s hottest properties.
Mario has never really wanted to move them, so I would be shocked if they do actually end up here. But hey, it is fun to talk about, and the arena in Pittsburgh has been screwing them for year.

Bowser
01-18-2007, 09:22 AM
Mario has never really wanted to move them, so I would be shocked if they do actually end up here. But hey, it is fun to talk about, and the arena in Pittsburgh has been screwing them for year.

If we don't land the Penguins, who do we go after to be the anchor tenant of the Sprint Center?

Frazod
01-18-2007, 09:24 AM
Stealing another city's team sucks. If you guys (and I say "you guys" because I couldn't care less about hockey) get a team, I hope its a new one. Or at least one that relocates because there's no fan base.

Not one that relocates because ownership is greedy and evil.

Woodrow Call
01-18-2007, 09:24 AM
If we don't land the Penguins, who do we go after to be the anchor tenant of the Sprint Center?

WNBA :fire:

Bowser
01-18-2007, 09:26 AM
WNBA :fire:

Is it too late to nuke the whole idea?

Bowser
01-18-2007, 09:26 AM
WNBA :fire:

On the other hand, it's not that far from the stockyards and American Royal....

morphius
01-18-2007, 09:26 AM
Stealing another city's team sucks. If you guys (and I say "you guys" because I couldn't care less about hockey) get a team, I hope its a new one. Or at least one that relocates because there's no fan base.

Not one that relocates because ownership is greedy and evil.
Actually, this would be us stealing a team because the city was inept and their stadium owners have given them the worst deal in the NHL and have even made it hard for them to compete. All while the city and state have sat by and watched and done NOTHING to help.

morphius
01-18-2007, 09:30 AM
If we don't land the Penguins, who do we go after to be the anchor tenant of the Sprint Center?
I don't know honestly. I would like to get the pen's, but I don't know who else is looking for a new home.

Cochise
01-18-2007, 09:32 AM
Yeah, I don't think Mario wants to move the team, but that he would if he had to. We've made the best offer we can make, I think, now it seems to be about if the state government will or will not force their hand.

Here is another good prospect:


Nashville Predators: Let's preface this by saying we love the Nashville Predators. We love how they're put together, how they're coached and how they play. But this is a team that seems destined to be in a perpetual struggle to make its way in the community. In spite of icing one of the best teams in the Western Conference for the second straight season, the Preds have managed to sell out the smallish Gaylord Entertainment Center just twice this season and reported crowds of less than 15,000 seven times, including three straight this month. What's more worrisome is if the Preds go to the Cup finals, will the team have to threaten to black out their home playoff games to ensure sellout crowds as they did during the first round of the playoffs last spring? Yikes.


Another article I saw said that the Washington Capitals were a possibility to move, and they have the young star player you can sell in Alexander Ovechkin.

I closed the window on accident or I would link the article. Basically it said that after the Penguins, the Capitals, Pedators, or Panthers were a possibility, in those cases due to low attendance.

Mr. Laz
01-18-2007, 09:36 AM
even if pittsburgh agrees to a new arena it won't be ready for 4 or 5 years.

it will interesting to see if they want to wait that long.


KC has been used many times as leverage. :cuss:

morphius
01-18-2007, 09:44 AM
Yeah, I don't think Mario wants to move the team, but that he would if he had to. We've made the best offer we can make, I think, now it seems to be about if the state government will or will not force their hand.

Here is another good prospect:



Another article I saw said that the Washington Capitals were a possibility to move, and they have the young star player you can sell in Alexander Ovechkin.

I closed the window on accident or I would link the article. Basically it said that after the Penguins, the Capitals, Pedators, or Panthers were a possibility, in those cases due to low attendance.
I think the predators was the other name I heard, and would be fitting since someone once gave me a Predators hockey jersey.

I believe that Petro said that this deal was almost as good as done at one point, so we will see if it happens.

Iowanian
01-18-2007, 09:46 AM
Give them a break....They're Pittsburg.

That place just hasn't been right since Tom Cruise Fumbled in the rain instead of making All the Right Moves.

dirk digler
01-18-2007, 09:47 AM
When is the 30 days up?

Cochise
01-18-2007, 09:48 AM
I think the predators was the other name I heard, and would be fitting since someone once gave me a Predators hockey jersey.

Florida doesn't excite me as much, the way the article was talking their management is incompetent. Traded their most popular player, and attendance has been dwindling because the team management is futile. Just what we need, another one of those in town! Argh!

The other teams though have been historically successful and have talent.

The Pens might be the Ferrari of that group of relocation candidates, but no matter who came here I would be a fan and it doesn't sound like we are courting any turds here.

morphius
01-18-2007, 09:53 AM
Florida doesn't excite me as much, the way the article was talking their management is incompetent. Traded their most popular player, and attendance has been dwindling because the team management is futile. Just what we need, another one of those in town! Argh!

The other teams though have been historically successful and have talent.

The Pens might be the Ferrari of that group of relocation candidates, but no matter who came here I would be a fan and it doesn't sound like we are courting any turds here.
Already being an Av's fan is going to make it tough for me with the new team.

redbrian
01-18-2007, 10:02 AM
Stealing another city's team sucks. If you guys (and I say "you guys" because I couldn't care less about hockey) get a team, I hope its a new one. Or at least one that relocates because there's no fan base.

Not one that relocates because ownership is greedy and evil.

I bet the Blues would like a new place to play, and they would fit right in with the Chiefs and the Royals, although to really fit they would have to have won the cup about 20 years ago but never winning it and having piss poor management would fit in nice.

jiveturkey
01-18-2007, 10:03 AM
If we don't land the Penguins, who do we go after to be the anchor tenant of the Sprint Center?
Someone brought up the Hornets again. I don't know where they go it though.

Cochise
01-18-2007, 10:28 AM
Now that I think about it, Nashville seems very attractive,

Just think, if it were the Predators who moved here, we'd be in the Western Conference central division, with - Detroit, St. Louis, and Chicago. And in the west you also have cities we play in other sports like Denver and Minneapolis.

Hockey could bring the rivalry dimension with these cities like St. Louis and Denver into another sport. For two cities that generally dislike each other in sports, KC and St. Louis have never had two sports teams that locked up on a regular basis. I think fans would be into it.

St. Louis would immediately be our natural rival. Football fans already hate Denver, and baseball fans here generally dislike the White Sox, so that would count too.

I think it would work. We couldn't land in a better division than the one the Predators are in.

jynni
01-18-2007, 10:34 AM
I don't see how KC is trying to "steal" the Penguins.

The Pittsburgh gov has been crapping on them for years. They've been trying to get this deal done for over five years or something like that. The Pens looking for a new home is really a last resort.

The Pen fans are blaming KC when it's really the fault of the idiots they elected.

Ari Chi3fs
01-18-2007, 11:19 AM
Im all about it, due to my owning www.kcpenguins.net :-P

Calcountry
01-18-2007, 11:21 AM
Can't blame them. How would you feel if some other city was trying to steal the Chiefs or the Royals?You all have no right to talk, you let Sacramento steal the Kings, and that is the ONLY big time franchise they have.

I guess you all have your basketball covered with KU though.

chagrin
01-18-2007, 11:22 AM
Already being an Av's fan is going to make it tough for me with the new team.


http://www.avalanchetalk.com/emblem.gif

Fish
01-18-2007, 11:23 AM
A friend sent me this....

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a189/shortybighead/photoshop/KCpenguins.jpg

Skip Towne
01-18-2007, 11:28 AM
K take your word for it...
Wouldn't you think they would put a sport like that on TV?

Thig Lyfe
01-18-2007, 11:30 AM
Can't blame them. How would you feel if some other city was trying to steal the Chiefs or the Royals?

The Chiefs? Pretty upset.

The Royals? Eh... it would be more like somebody taking a really old crappy car off my hands. It has some sentimental value but not much else. Of course, the moment they were to move Dayton Moore would get all the payroll he wanted and would be able to turn the Royals into a World Series contender.

It would be only fitting considering KC sports history.

KC Kings
01-18-2007, 12:07 PM
Can't blame them. How would you feel if some other city was trying to steal the Chiefs or the Royals?
That would be as crazy as somebody trying to car-jack my 99 Escort.

DenverChief
01-18-2007, 12:09 PM
because it is the fastest and hardest hitting sport in the US? Just a guess.


:thumb:And the fights are the best:D

morphius
01-18-2007, 12:10 PM
:thumb:And the fights are the best:D
There is that as well, lol!

Bearcat
01-18-2007, 12:12 PM
I don't see how KC is trying to "steal" the Penguins.

The Pittsburgh gov has been crapping on them for years. They've been trying to get this deal done for over five years or something like that. The Pens looking for a new home is really a last resort.

The Pen fans are blaming KC when it's really the fault of the idiots they elected.

Exactly! (and first, what the hell? You're wanting to sell something to show fans you want to keep your team, and all you can think of is "jagoff"? Really, really lame)

Anyway, we are NOT stealing them. The team has gone bankrupt multiple times. They have built a new stadium for the Steelers and Pirates. THE PIRATES!! If they wanted the Penguins, they would have done something by now to keep them. This has been going on forever, and are lucky to be watching Sidney Crosby right now because it should have happened sooner.

They had 70% capacity just two years ago, and granted 90% isn't bad the past two years, they don't sell out every night like 10+ other teams in the league do.

Hound333
01-18-2007, 12:35 PM
I would love to wait for an NBA team. Basketball already has a fanbase with the Jayhawks close. KC will sell out for Hockey because its new but I think 5 years down the line attendence would suffer some.

Sully
01-18-2007, 12:42 PM
Wouldn't you think they would put a sport like that on TV?

DOesn't translate to TV very well.
That doesn't make it a bad sports... just makes it harder to watc on TV.

SLAG
01-18-2007, 12:49 PM
Didn't see this posted yet but at www.helpthepens.com they're selling shirts that say "Kansas City is for Jagoffs". I really don't give a shit about hockey but now I'm hoping KC gets the Penguins just to piss these guys off. **** Pittsburgh.


I say we get some 31337 Haxor to DoS on their bitch ass