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SLQ
01-19-2007, 08:45 PM
http://franz.org/quiz.htm (http://franz.org/quiz.htm)

Take the survey and tell us if you are more liberal than Jesse Jackson or more conservative than Ronald Reagan.

patteeu
01-19-2007, 09:00 PM
I scored a 37, but any test that rates Bob Dole as more conservative than Jack Kemp is bogus.

NewPhin
01-19-2007, 09:03 PM
I scored a 7. Between Teddy and Billary. The prompts seemed pretty silly, though.

Taco John
01-19-2007, 09:23 PM
I scored a 21, between Powell and GHB.

scott free
01-19-2007, 09:35 PM
19, just below Powell.

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-19-2007, 09:57 PM
6, and I even erred on the side of conservatism with some of the possible answers due to the limited and idiotic wording.

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-19-2007, 09:58 PM
I also don't like the fact that this test believes you can be no more conservative than reagan nor more liberal than J. Jackson.

KC Jones
01-19-2007, 09:58 PM
18 between Powell and Clinton

A few of the questions I thought all of the answers were incorrect though.

Logical
01-19-2007, 10:33 PM
24 for me

Joe Seahawk
01-19-2007, 10:48 PM
23 Right between Bush and powell..

Or bush and colon

Nightwish
01-19-2007, 11:06 PM
22, between Colin Powell and George HW Bush. Here's the breakdown:



1. Generally, do you tend to trust or distrust government's ability to solve problems? Distrust.

2. Which do you trust more? The US Postal Service, the Legislative Branch, the FBI, the CIA, the Joint Chiefs.

3. What about private institutions and people? Which do you trust more? Doctors, Union Leaders, Professional Athletes.

4. The federal government should do more to solve the nation's problems even if it means higher taxes on (pick as many as you want.) None.

5. Where should government be cut? Eliminate farm subsidies, Eliminate subsidies to the arts, Cut entitlement programs, Cut defense spending, Reduce welfare spending, Reduce foreign aid, Cut taxes.

6. Which would do more to guarantee competitive elections? Public financing.

7. Who was a better President? Reagan.

8. Do you see the ideal America as an ethnic "melting post" in which religious, cultural and ethnic distinctions are blurred, or as a nation in which ethnically diverse groups ought to coexist while retaining their cultural identity? Multicultural society.

9. Whose political views do you consider more extreme, those of (former) Surgeon General Joycelyn Elders or the Rev. Pat Robertson? Pat Robertson.

10. Which would curb violent crime most? Mandatory sentences for those who use guns in the commission of a crime.

11. In the long run, do you think we can reduce crime more by building more prisons or providing more financial assistance to rebuilding our inner cities? Both.

12. Even if it means cutting programs, spending must be cut to reduce the federal deficit. Agree.

13. The federal government is too big. Agree.

14. US interests are more seriously at stake in Haiti than they are in Korea? Agree (though difficult to choose).

15. Gays and lesbians should be able to marry or at least be treated as married under law if they so desire? Agree.

16. The news media is dominated by liberals. Disagree.

17. The religious right is a threat to our political system. Disagree.

18. The federal government should include funds to make abortion services part of any standard benefits package in health care reform. Disagree.

19. Deceptive political campaign commercials should be banned. Disagree (though they should be presecutable, if lible can be proven).

20. Graphic pornography should be banned. Disagree (but it should be restricted).

21. As a society, we should spend more money trying to find a cure for AIDS than for cancer and heart disease because AIDS threatens younger people. Disagree.

22. Talk radio shows should be regulated to ensure both sides of a debate are represented, because talk radio has an unhealthy impact on the political process. Disagree.

23. The breakdown of the traditional family is the most serious domestic crisis facing our society. Disagree.

24. Woman and racial minorities should be given preferences in hiring until we achieve true gender and racial equality in America. Disagree.

25. Certain environmental problems call for government action, even if it means new programs or increased taxes. Agree.

Fishpicker
01-19-2007, 11:07 PM
20 = powell

that's odd, this type of quiz usually puts me to the left of Al Sharpton

Nightwish
01-19-2007, 11:11 PM
20 = powell

that's odd, this type of quiz usually puts me to the left of Al SharptonAs with most political positioning quizzes, this one leaves a lot to be desired. One of the big problems with them is that they are too broad, and don't allow for situational differences (though this one did allow for seemingly opposing answers in some situations, which puts it a little than most in that regard). For instance, I am opposed to raising taxes on specific groups, and am in favor of cutting taxes in general, but am also in support of raising taxes on certain things or on a temporary basis to pay for certain things approved by the voters (then reduced again once the thing is paid off).

Taco John
01-19-2007, 11:31 PM
I never understand why people whine about a political quiz. Most of them are just trying to generalize based on a few simple questions without boring people to tears with a litany of endless minutiae. I'd wager it gets at least 85%-95% of its respondents in their political neighborhood.

Cochise
01-20-2007, 12:03 AM
31

Logical
01-20-2007, 01:25 AM
I never understand why people whine about a political quiz. Most of them are just trying to generalize based on a few simple questions without boring people to tears with a litany of endless minutiae. I'd wager it gets at least 85%-95% of its respondents in their political neighborhood.

I agree, they are just little fun snapshots.

jAZ
01-20-2007, 03:00 AM
16... between Bill Clinton and Colin Powell.

KChiefer
01-20-2007, 03:02 AM
I scored a 13, which puts me in a Bill and Hillary sandwich. I asked for a Chicken Salad on Toast A-Holes! It's true that I'm drunk as a skunk, but there's no way I'd end up in that situation.

My problem with this quiz is that some of the questions are dated and some are vague. Overall I'd score in the same zone, but the difference in Teddy and Colin is huge. While I don't align with conservative ideals, and there's no way I want my ideals to be linked with someone that put his reputation above a woman's life. I still can't believe that guy holds office. I'd like to see a more relevent revamp of this quiz and using someone other than Teddy.


Edit: Fun Fact: The NFL Network showed a clip of a historical hit that resembled the hit on Reggie Bush at the beginning of the Saints/Eagles game. The person that took that hit was none other than, Los Angeles Charger, Jack Kemp. He got absolutely killed, suffering a broken rib. It was the 1964 AFL Championship between the Bills and Chargers which the Bills won 20-7. I missed who layed the hit.

CHIEF4EVER
01-20-2007, 04:32 AM
36. Seems pretty accurate all in all.

Kraut
01-20-2007, 05:35 AM
33 for me

Over-Head
01-20-2007, 07:14 AM
I scored an 18, and I ain’t even American :eek:

SLQ
01-20-2007, 07:20 AM
I never understand why people whine about a political quiz. Most of them are just trying to generalize based on a few simple questions without boring people to tears with a litany of endless minutiae. I'd wager it gets at least 85%-95% of its respondents in their political neighborhood.

I never agree with TJ, but this time I do.

Adept Havelock
01-20-2007, 10:06 AM
21- One space to the right of Colin Powell.

Bowser
01-20-2007, 10:40 AM
Me and Billy Jeff are buds, according to this skewed poll.

StcChief
01-20-2007, 11:05 AM
31 these questions are very iffy.

noa
01-20-2007, 11:09 AM
This is one of the most ridiculous questions I've ever heard

21. As a society, we should spend more money trying to find a cure for AIDS than for cancer and heart disease because AIDS threatens younger people.

Bowser
01-20-2007, 11:25 AM
This is one of the most ridiculous questions I've ever heard

You went with the one that had more of a monetary upside, didn't you?

:p

BucEyedPea
01-20-2007, 02:56 PM
32

Lol at pat's post. I'd agree.

memyselfI
01-20-2007, 03:25 PM
baha, I'm more conservative than Hillary and less than Bill. 11


1. Generally, do you tend to trust or distrust government's ability to solve problems?


Distrust


2. Which do you trust more:


The U.S. Postal Service?


The legislative branch?

The IRS?


The Peace Corps?


The United Nations?


3. What about private institutions and people? Which do you trust more?

Doctors?

Union leaders or


Professional athletes or



4. The federal government should do more to solve the nation's problems even if it means higher taxes on (pick as many as you want.):


Big corporations
The weathly


5. Where should government be cut? (pick as many as you want.)

Cut defense spending
Reduce foreign aid


6. Which would do more to guarantee competitive elections?

Term limits



7. Who was a better president?

Franklin D. Roosevelt


8. Do you see the ideal America as an ethnic "melting pot" in which religious, cultural and ethnic distinctions are blurred, or as a nation in which ethnically diverse groups ought to coexist while retaining their cultural identity?


Multicultural society


9. Whose political views do you consider more extreme, those of (former) Surgeon General Joycelyn Elders or the Rev. Pat Robertson?

Robertson



10. Which would curb violent crime most?

Stricter controls on the sale of guns



11. In the long run, do you think we can reduce crime more by building more prisons or providing more financial assistance to rebuilding our inner cities?

Rebuild cities


12. Even if it means cutting programs, spending must be cut to reduce the federal deficit.

Agree


13. The federal government is too big.

Agree


14. U.S. interests are more seriously at stake in Haiti than they are in Korea.

Disagree


15. Gays and lesbians should be able to marry or at least be treated as married under law if they so desire.

Agree


16. The news media is dominated by liberals
Disagree


17. The religious right is a threat to our political system.

Agree


18. The federal government should include funds to make abortion services part of any standard benefits package in health care reform.
Disagree


19. Deceptive political campain commercials should be banned.

Agree

20. Graphic pornography should be banned.
Disagree


21. As a society, we should spend more money trying to find a cure for AIDS than for cancer and heart disease because AIDS threatens younger people.

Disagree


22. Talk radio shows should be regulated to ensure both sides of a debate are represented, because talk radio has an unhealthy impact on the political process.

Disagree


23. The breakdown of the traditional family is the most serious domestic crisis facing our society.

Disagree


24. Woman and racial minorities should be given preferences in hiring until we achieve true gender and racial equality in America.

Agree


25. Certain environmental problems call for government action, even if it means new programs or increased taxes.

Agree

scott free
01-20-2007, 03:48 PM
Despite some of the poorly worded questions, this quiz seems to peg everybody pretty close to the mark, from what i have been able to gather from the posters here.

I basically consider myself to be just left of center & thats exactly where it put me.

BucEyedPea
01-20-2007, 06:04 PM
This is how I read it:
30's are the conservatives with the higher ones most conservative.
Twenties seems center with the mid to higher leaning a bit more right.
Just blow the mid of the 20's, center but leaning more left.
Anything under 20's is degrees of liberal.
Less than that socialist.
Under 10 probably most extreme socialist of all.

JMO

CHIEF4EVER
01-20-2007, 06:20 PM
This is how I read it:
30's are the conservatives with the higher ones most conservative.
Twenties seems center with the mid to higher leaning a bit more right.
Just blow the mid of the 20's, center but leaning more left.
Anything under 20's is degrees of liberal.
Less than that socialist.
Under 10 probably most extreme socialist of all.

JMO

Sounds about right. I was 36 which pegs me as a strong Conservative. Pretty accurate in spite of the somewhat nebulous nature of some of the questions.

penchief
01-20-2007, 06:27 PM
That's such a bogus survey because it all depends on who is running the government. Our government's tools are there for the exercise of freedom. But it really depends on the motives of those who occupy power.

Do they want to serve the public (as our government was designed) or do they want to serve the interests of those who can pay for that service?

BucEyedPea
01-20-2007, 07:54 PM
So is penny not voting, even if just for kicks, because he might come up as a 2? :p

penchief
01-20-2007, 08:05 PM
So is penny not voting, even if just for kicks, because he might come up as a 2? :p

So is there a poll? I didn't notice one.

It is nice that you're talking to me again, though.

recxjake
01-20-2007, 08:13 PM
34

Extra Point
01-22-2007, 06:12 PM
Blackjack! Proud to be next to Powell!

listopencil
01-22-2007, 06:40 PM
24

JBucc
01-22-2007, 06:42 PM
21

NewPhin
01-22-2007, 07:12 PM
And NewChief and Hamas are neck and neck for most ideologically liberal posters at this point.

banyon
01-22-2007, 11:21 PM
This is pretty obviously a piece of campaign paraphenalia from 1996. I mean who puts Jack Kemp in their political spectrum today? That's like listing Walter Mondale. They also picked the most villified people of the era to put on the "liberal" side.

I scored a 17, so that's off.
I guess I'm supposed to get all confused now if I am a swing voter and vote for Bob Dole.

banyon
01-22-2007, 11:23 PM
Also Nightwish, I hope you are kidding about question 14 being tough.

Archie Bunker
01-22-2007, 11:25 PM
I got a 10.

Nightwish
01-22-2007, 11:38 PM
Also Nightwish, I hope you are kidding about question 14 being tough.
No, I wasn't kidding. Both situations affect our interests in different ways. Kim Jong Il's saber rattling has certainly taken center stage, but Haiti is still very important to keep an eye on, especially as it concerns major drug trafficking and illegal immigration. The problems that Haiti poses to our interests are ongoing, difficult to address, and too easily overlooked and forgotten (until such time as they become an even bigger problem) because of the more immediate drama in Korea and Iran. One of the things voters really spoke up about in the '06 elections was domestic problems, voicing discontent with the government's tendency to overfocus on our interests abroad and ignore the problems on our own shores and in our own streets.

Logical
01-22-2007, 11:46 PM
No, I wasn't kidding. Both situations affect our interests in different ways. Kim Jong Il's saber rattling has certainly taken center stage, but Haiti is still very important to keep an eye on, especially as it concerns major drug trafficking and illegal immigration. The problems that Haiti poses to our interests are ongoing, difficult to address, and too easily overlooked and forgotten (until such time as they become an even bigger problem) because of the more immediate drama in Korea and Iran. One of the things voters really spoke up about in the '06 elections was domestic problems, voicing discontent with the government's tendency to overfocus on our interests abroad and ignore the problems on our own shores and in our own streets.

Sorry but I don't see how that makes Haiti a threat to the U.S.

Nightwish
01-22-2007, 11:52 PM
Sorry but I don't see how that makes Haiti a threat to the U.S.
The question didn't ask which one was the greater "threat," per se. It asked which US interests are more seriously at stake, those affected by Haiti, or those affected by Korea. That doesn't necessarily imply "threat," at least not in a militaristic sense. Haiti affects our interests in more ways, and in ways more close to home than Korea does, in my opinion.

Logical
01-23-2007, 12:21 AM
The question didn't ask which one was the greater "threat," per se. It asked which US interests are more seriously at stake, those affected by Haiti, or those affected by Korea. That doesn't necessarily imply "threat," at least not in a militaristic sense. Haiti affects our interests in more ways, and in ways more close to home than Korea does, in my opinion.

As usual you take interesting perspectives on things. I think that is why so many here have a problem with your takes.

luv
01-23-2007, 01:10 AM
13.

banyon
01-23-2007, 08:11 AM
No, I wasn't kidding. Both situations affect our interests in different ways. Kim Jong Il's saber rattling has certainly taken center stage, but Haiti is still very important to keep an eye on, especially as it concerns major drug trafficking and illegal immigration. The problems that Haiti poses to our interests are ongoing, difficult to address, and too easily overlooked and forgotten (until such time as they become an even bigger problem) because of the more immediate drama in Korea and Iran. One of the things voters really spoke up about in the '06 elections was domestic problems, voicing discontent with the government's tendency to overfocus on our interests abroad and ignore the problems on our own shores and in our own streets.

People in Haiti don't have a pot to piss in and Il has the bomb. That seems like it should be an easy call. Not to mention out thousands of troops in the DMZ. The drugs are a headache for the DEA, but they are probably more concerned about Colombia and the gang anyway I would think.

I think it's only on the quiz because it is a dated question. Haiti was more in our news in 1996.

Nightwish
01-23-2007, 08:39 AM
People in Haiti don't have a pot to piss in and Il has the bomb. That seems like it should be an easy call. Not to mention out thousands of troops in the DMZ. The drugs are a headache for the DEA, but they are probably more concerned about Colombia and the gang anyway I would think.

I think it's only on the quiz because it is a dated question. Haiti was more in our news in 1996.Haiti has been in our news as recently as 2004, and the drug running and immigration problems that were a hot item in 2004 were still ongoing at that time, so I am sure I could find more recent news of Haiti if I had the inclination to look for it. And the problems it poses are more numerous and strike more closely to home than those posed by Korea, in my opinion. As I explained to Logical, the question didn't ask which was the greater immediate threat, it asked which US interests are more at stake.

patteeu
01-23-2007, 08:50 AM
As usual you take interesting perspectives on things. I think that is why so many here have a problem with your takes.

Yes, if by "interesting" you mean "nonsensical."

banyon
01-23-2007, 08:53 AM
Haiti has been in our news as recently as 2004, and the drug running and immigration problems that were a hot item in 2004 were still ongoing at that time, so I am sure I could find more recent news of Haiti if I had the inclination to look for it. And the problems it poses are more numerous and strike more closely to home than those posed by Korea, in my opinion. As I explained to Logical, the question didn't ask which was the greater immediate threat, it asked which US interests are more at stake.

That's outlandish. Haiti could be sucked into an ocean sinkhole and it wouldn't matter one whit to most Americans. How many do you think can tell you who Haiti's prime minister is? The capital? As for the drugs and immigration, like I said, there are a lot more countries much higher on the priority list in both categories, but in the category of "f***ing insane idiots likely to pull a nuclear trigger" Jong Il, along with Ahmeninijad is at the top of the list. And you do agree that the troops in the DMZ are a pretty significant American interest, no?

Logical
01-23-2007, 11:31 AM
Yes, if by "interesting" you mean "nonsensical."

Personally I think you are wrong, I think Nightwish views many things from an interesting but different perspective. To label it nonsense is possibly fair in a few cases but to generalize it is BS and you should know better.

CrazyCoffey
01-23-2007, 12:01 PM
I got a 27 just on the Jack Kemp side of George Herbert Walker Bush.

great poll, thanks for posting it, I have found a new reason not to give up hope on myself.

Proud to be a red blooded american, and since my mom was a tree hugger and my dad a self made man, this score is pretty damn good.

I don't want to be too far on the left, but the left of the right extreme and right of the fence straddlers is ok by me.

I think I just feel in love with myself.

patteeu
01-23-2007, 12:21 PM
Personally I think you are wrong, I think Nightwish views many things from an interesting but different perspective. To label it nonsense is possibly fair in a few cases but to generalize it is BS and you should know better.

OK. You're entitled to your own opinion on the subject. Obviously, I don't think his views are nonsensical when I agree with them, so I'm not generalizing to ALL cases. Just cases like the present one when they are.

patteeu
01-23-2007, 12:23 PM
I got a 27 just on the Jack Kemp side of George Herbert Walker Bush.

great poll, thanks for posting it, I have found a new reason not to give up hope on myself.

Proud to be a red blooded american, and since my mom was a tree hugger and my dad a self made man, this score is pretty damn good.

I don't want to be too far on the left, but the left of the right extreme and right of the fence straddlers is ok by me.

I think I just feel in love with myself.

LMAO I almost fell in love with you after that lovely self-assessment.

Dave Lane
01-23-2007, 12:30 PM
19 just below Powell. Really I'm more liberal than that but some questions really had only 2 bad choices.

Dave

Duck Dog
01-23-2007, 12:56 PM
31 between Kemp and Reagan.

This question is stupid.

11. In the long run, do you think we can reduce crime more by building more prisons or providing more financial assistance to rebuilding our inner cities?

There should have been a 'neither' option. Out of default I chose 'build prisons'. That probably skewed my score.