Hillary Getting Warmed Up.......

[Kraut]

http://www.insightmag.com/Media/MediaManager/Obama_2.htm

Well here we go. Let the fun begin for Obama. I can't stand either of them, but I hope he understands that he doesn't stand a chance against her and her political machine. As a side note I do find it a bit strange that he has failed to mention this part of his past :hmmm:

[|Zach|]

He has mentioned this in the past. Via Think Progress.

This morning, Fox News featured a segment highlighting a right-wing report that Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) attended an Islamic “madrassa” school as a 6-year-old child.

Fox & Friends host Steve Doocy pointed out that madrassas are “financed by Saudis” and “teach this Wahhabism which pretty much hates us,” then declared, “The big question is: was that on the curriculum back then?” Later, a caller to the show questioned whether Obama’s schooling means that “maybe he doesn’t consider terrorists the enemy.” Fox anchor Brian Kilmeade responded, “Well, we’ll see about that.”

The Fox hosts failed to correct the false claim that Obama is Muslim. One caller, referring to Obama, said, “I think a Muslim would be fine in the presidency, better than Hillary. At least you know what the Muslims are up to.” Anchor Gretchen Carlson responded, “We want to be clear, too, that this isn’t all Muslims, of course, we would only be concerned about the kind that want to blow us up.” Obama is Christian, a member of Chicago’s Trinity United Church of Christ since 1988.

As a child, Obama spent four years in Indonesia with his step-father, a non-practicing Muslim, and his mother. Between ages 6 and 8, Obama attended a local Muslim school in Jakarta; after that, he was enrolled in a Roman Catholic school. In his book Dreams Of My Father (p.142), Obama writes:

In Indonesia, I’d spent 2 years at a Muslim school, 2 years at a Catholic school. In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell mother I made faces during Koranic studies. In the Catholic school, when it came time to pray, I’d pretend to close my eyes, then peek around the room. Nothing happened. No angels descended.

In his more recent book, The Audacity of Hope, Obama writes (p.274), “Without the money to go to the international school that most expatriate children attended, I went to local Indonesian schools and ran the streets with the children of farmers, servants, tailors, and clerks.”

[oldandslow]

But Zach...

Fox is always fair and balanced.

[Chief Faithful]

But Zach...

Fox is always fair and balanced.

What a fun time we are going to have. My understanding is the story was fed to all the major media outlets from Hillary's war machine, but only Fox ran the story.

[Kraut]

Ok, i wasn't sure if he had mentioned it or not. I didnt think he did. I still think he is doomed running against Clinton.

[|Zach|]

What a fun time we are going to have. My understanding is the story was fed to all the major media outlets from Hillary's war machine, but only Fox ran the story.
It will be fun...to figure out if Obama is with the terrorisits or not.

[oldandslow]

What a fun time we are going to have. My understanding is the story was fed to all the major media outlets from Hillary's war machine, but only Fox ran the story.

It would not surprise me to see that Fox becomes Hillary's lapdog.

Murdoch is nothing if not Machievellian.

Still, this is irresponsible journalism, period.

[NewPhin]

I'm really curious if the "source" from the Insight article is truly a member of Hillary's team. These questions have been raised by a crappy chainmail that was posted on here yesterday. Snopes has already ran an article (http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp) debunking the meat of the claims.

It may be Hillary's team that's doing this, but it makes them look way worse than him, if so.

[Kraut]

Fox News is a fraud

[Kraut]

I'm not looking forward to the '08 election......Damn its gonna be dirty

[NewPhin]

To elaborate:

The true bit of Machiavellianism would be for someone that see both Hillary and Obama as enemies to leak this while claiming that Hillary's staff is the source. This gets Obama and Hillary going after each other early, while simulaneously playing on people's worst suspicions about both (Barak is secrely Muslim, Hillary is a power hungry bitch who will stop at nothing to get power).

[Kraut]

To elaborate:

The true bit of Machiavellianism would be for someone that see both Hillary and Obama as enemies to leak this while claiming that Hillary's staff is the source. This gets Obama and Hillary going after each other early, while simulaneously playing on people's worst suspicions about both (Barak is secrely Muslim, Hillary is a power hungry bitch who will stop at nothing to get power).
Your probably right. This is what I would expect from these two Aholes.

[|Zach|]

To elaborate:

The true bit of Machiavellianism would be for someone that see both Hillary and Obama as enemies to leak this while claiming that Hillary's staff is the source. This gets Obama and Hillary going after each other early, while simulaneously playing on people's worst suspicions about both (Barak is secrely Muslim, Hillary is a power hungry bitch who will stop at nothing to get power).
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/2208/drevil1bc.jpg

[NewPhin]

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/2208/drevil1bc.jpg

Karl Rove decided to shave it all off, eh?

[oldandslow]

To elaborate:

The true bit of Machiavellianism would be for someone that see both Hillary and Obama as enemies to leak this while claiming that Hillary's staff is the source. This gets Obama and Hillary going after each other early, while simulaneously playing on people's worst suspicions about both (Barak is secrely Muslim, Hillary is a power hungry bitch who will stop at nothing to get power).

Rovian, indeed.

[Cochise]

Since Obama is in, really, Hillary running too is the best thing for the right. She and her political machine will attempt to smash him to bits and expose any dirt. Hillary will fight dirty by proxy and I'm sure her tentacles will expose any skeletons that may exist.

Since he will eventually overcome her, she's mostly just doing the eventual Republican candidate's work for him.

[|Zach|]

Since Obama is in, really, Hillary running too is the best thing for the right. She and her political machine will attempt to smash him to bits and expose any dirt. Hillary will fight dirty by proxy and I'm sure her tentacles will expose any skeletons that may exist.

Since he will eventually overcome her, she's mostly just doing the eventual Republican candidate's work for him.
Every time someone from the right starts talking about Hillary Clinton it reminds me of those SNL Bill Brasky skits.

Some have seem to have made this amazing Hillary Clinton character that no real person could ever in a million years mimic.

Tectacles. ROFL

[Adept Havelock]

Her tentacles? Does Hillary posess an Octopussoir, or is she a refugee from Japanese animation?

[Cochise]

Every time someone from the right starts talking about Hillary Clinton it reminds me of those SNL Bill Brasky skits.

Some have seem to have made this amazing Hillary Clinton character that no real person could ever in a million years mimic.

Tectacles. ROFL

C'mon dude, the villain needs to be a supervillain.

[|Zach|]

C'mon dude, the villain needs to be a supervillain.
Ha, I guess so.

[stevieray]

Every time someone from the right starts talking about Hillary Clinton it reminds me of those SNL Bill Brasky skits.

Some have seem to have made this amazing Hillary Clinton character that no real person could ever in a million years mimic.

Tectacles. ROFL

Kind of like the left trying to recreate JFK.

[|Zach|]

Kind of like the left trying to recreate JFK.
I would take that over "the same ol canidate" Who knows what Obama will bring to the table? There is a whole lot to learn and read about for this upcoming election.

At least its not out of fear.

I heard last week Hillary Clinton wiped her ass with the constitution and had verses of the Koran tattooed on her back.

I will check out Snopes. :)

[patteeu]

But Zach...

Fox is always fair and balanced.

That's funny. I got the news that he had mentioned in his book that he attended a "predominately muslim school" from Fox. Maybe they're more fair and balanced than you give them credit for being.

[patteeu]

It would not surprise me to see that Fox becomes Hillary's lapdog.

Murdoch is nothing if not Machievellian.

Still, this is irresponsible journalism, period.

:rolleyes: Irresponsible to report the news rather than to suppress it? Maybe so, but I bet you wouldn't say this if they were suppressing news about the NSA surveillance program or the CIA black prisons.

[patteeu]

Every time someone from the right starts talking about Hillary Clinton it reminds me of those SNL Bill Brasky skits.

Some have seem to have made this amazing Hillary Clinton character that no real person could ever in a million years mimic.

Tectacles. ROFL

Ditto for Karl Rove.

[penchief]

http://www.insightmag.com/Media/MediaManager/Obama_2.htm

Well here we go. Let the fun begin for Obama. I can't stand either of them, but I hope he understands that he doesn't stand a chance against her and her political machine. As a side note I do find it a bit strange that he has failed to mention this part of his past :hmmm:

Just out of curiosity, why can't you stand Obama? I have not solidified my position on him because I don't know enough yet. Maybe you can help me out. What is it, specifically that led you not to be able "stand him?"

[Taco John]

:rolleyes: Irresponsible to report the news rather than to suppress it? Maybe so, but I bet you wouldn't say this if they were suppressing news about the NSA surveillance program or the CIA black prisons.



You used to be such a fair-minded guy. It's disappointing to see how far you've fallen. This week has brought a lot of new lows for you too. Your mention of Hitler and Hagel in the same context this past week was... unfortunate.

[Taco John]

Just out of curiosity, why can't you stand Obama? I have not solidified my position on him because I don't know enough yet. Maybe you can help me out. What is it, specifically that led you not to be able "stand him?"


Maybe this diagram will help you understand it:

http://fig.cox.miami.edu/~cmallery/150/neuro/c7.48.4.kneejerk.jpg

[penchief]

Maybe this diagram will help you understand it:

http://fig.cox.miami.edu/~cmallery/150/neuro/c7.48.4.kneejerk.jpg

If that's good enough for you I guess it's good enough for me. But I don't know if it's good enough for the gods of reason.

[patteeu]

You used to be such a fair-minded guy. It's disappointing to see how far you've fallen. This week has brought a lot of new lows for you too. Your mention of Hitler and Hagel in the same context this past week was... unfortunate.

You're going to have to refresh my memory on that one. I'm sure that if I did it, it was well deserved, but since I don't remember it and since I've searched for it and haven't found it, I'd really appreciate you pointing it out to me.

BTW, what is your criticism of the content of my post? Is it not worthwhile to point out that the assumptions that Fox did not report this story fairly are incorrect?

[tburg]

Fox News is a fraud



very insightful post....

[mlyonsd]

You're going to have to refresh my memory on that one. I'm sure that if I did it, it was well deserved, but since I don't remember it and since I've searched for it and haven't found it, I'd really appreciate you pointing it out to me.

BTW, what is your criticism of the content of my post? Is it not worthwhile to point out that the assumptions that Fox did not report this story fairly are incorrect?

I'm not sure how you can sleep at night knowing TJ is disappointed in you.

[Chief Faithful]

There is no doubt Hillary is the biggest mud slinger of the all, but here is a sampling of what is going to come her way. Notice Boortz hates Republicans and Democrats equally as a professed Libertarian.

Boortz Index Page (http://boortz.com/nuze/index.html)

Monday - January 22, 2007

OK .. SO SHE'S IN

Well, well. Big surprise. Hillary Rodham has decided that she's in, and she's "in to win."

Oh goody.

The news over the weekend really wasn't that Hillary is in the presidential race; the news is that the media treated it as such a stunning surprise. To listen to CNN on Saturday, you would have thought that nothing was going on anywhere else in the entire known world. Now was it just me, or did the mainstream media sound positively orgasmic over Clinton's announcement?

The New Hampshire primary is one year away -- unless they move it up. There is plenty of time to watch Hillary and tell you the stories you won't see in the mainstream media. Let's just cover the basics:

Hillary Clinton is vicious. There is absolutely nothing that she won't do to gain the political power she has been coveting for most of her life. She is a cold-blooded politician who will take no prisoners in her quest for the presidency.


Hillary Clinton heads the list of those who think that America is great because of its government.


Hillary Clinton believes that Americans get their rights from government. If you don't know why this is a dangerous attitude, you probably attended government schools.


Speaking of government schools, with Hillary Rodham you can forget the idea of school choice. The teacher's unions will continue to run the show.


Hillary holds our military is complete disdain. Remember, this is the woman who had U.S. Marines in their dress blue uniforms serving cheese and crackers to guests at White House functions. When her husband was president there were repeated stories that Hillary's White House staff showed deliberate rudeness to military personnel. In one story you've probably forgotten a Hillary aid in the White House once told a uniformed military office that "We don't talk to people in military uniforms in this office."


Hillary tried to implement a health care plan that would have made it a crime for you to use your own dollars to hire your own doctor. Now think about that for a moment. How much else do you need to know? She actually wanted to make it a crime for you to arrange for your own medical care outside of her great Hillarycare system using your own dollars. Picture this. You're sitting in a jail cell. Your cellmate is in there for bank robbery. He looks at you and says "So, what did you do?" You tell him "Oh ... I tried to hire a doctor with my own money to take care of a medical problem." That, my friends, is Hillary's America.


Hillary Rodham is a disgrace to the institution of marriage. That relationship she has with Bill Clinton is no marriage at all. It is a political partnership entered into for the purpose of acquiring and maintaining political power. Nothing more.


Hillary has not only tolerated her "husband's" many trysts with other women, she has been actively engaged in, and sometimes led, the effort to destroy any of these women who dared to step forward to complain.


She is fundamentally dishonest ... almost pathologically dishonest. Perhaps the greatest example of her innate dishonesty would be the saga of the Rose Law Firm billing records. The congress served a subpoena on Hillary for those records. She said that she did not have them. For two years she denied that those records were in her possession, and in fact suggested that they may not exist at all. Then, two years after the subpoena was served, those very records were found in her private living quarters at the White House. Not only were they found, but they had her fingerprints and handwriting all over them. In other words .. she lied.


Hillary Clinton is anti-individual. When discussing her socialized medicine plan with a group of Republican congressmen in 1993 Hillary said "We have to stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what is best for society." No .. she's wrong. We have to start thinking about what it would be like to have a president who put the common good above individual rights. Hillary Rodham is part and parcel of the war on individualism.
A bit more about Hillary Rodham and your health care:

Now that Hillary Clinton is officially in the race, she is choosing health care as her signature issue. What a great idea...it worked so well before. By the way, anybody notice how it was warm and sunny out her office window in her videotaped announcement that she was running? Seems like that little piece of tape was recorded in advance. Many people have noticed, by the way. There's late word that the announcement was indeed taped in Washington last week. Maybe it's a fake tree in the window behind her. Who knows. But back to health care.

So what is Hillary's health care proposal going to be this time? Things didn't work out so well 13 years ago when she proposed a government takeover of the medical industry. Says The Hildabeast: "I will be introducing legislation to make quality, affordable health care available to every child in America." What does that mean? just covering children? It would seem so. Well, according to Hillary...anyone would be able to buy into her program. And just how much is all of this going to cost? Naturally, no mention of the price tag. But suffice it to say that if Hillary Clinton becomes president of the United States, your earnings will be confiscated to pay for other people's health care. Just get used to the idea.

And don't buy for a minute this routine that Hillary Clinton only jumped in because Barack Obama forced her to. She has been planning this move for decades...and everything unfolding right now is part of that plan. It all goes back to when she was running things and wearing the pants in her husband's administration. Except now it's her turn.
Know this. If Hillary Clinton becomes President Rodham, and if the Democrats increase their hold on power in the congress, this will be the last presidential election in which talk radio will play any significant part at all. Though I've been telling you this for years, it has become clear in the last few weeks that Democrats plan to destroy talk radio with the resurrection of the so-called "Fairness Doctrine."

[Kraut]

Just out of curiosity, why can't you stand Obama? I have not solidified my position on him because I don't know enough yet. Maybe you can help me out. What is it, specifically that led you not to be able "stand him?"
His liberal voting record throughout his political past is what does it for me

[Kraut]

very insightful post....
Sorry, I can;t really say much more about them. Plus I really don't care to elaborate on Fox News.

[StcChief]

Hillary Getting Warmed Up

two more words that can't be used in the same sentence
Hillary and warm.