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pikesome
01-23-2007, 07:30 AM
The Story (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,245718,00.html)


An American GI assigned to one of the harshest posts in Iraq had a simple request last week for a Wisconsin mattress company: send some floor mats to help ease the hardship of sleeping on the cold, bug-infested ground.

What he got, instead, was a swift kick from the company's Web site, which not only refused the request but added insult to injury with the admonition, "If you were sensible, you and your troops would pull out of Iraq."

Army Sgt. Jason Hess, stationed in Taji, Iraq, with the 1st Cavalry Division, said he emailed his request to Discount-mats.com because he and his fellow soldiers sleep on the cold ground, which contains sand mites, sand flies and other disease carriers.

In his email, dated Jan. 16, 2007, he asked the Web-based company, registered to Faisal Khetani, an American Muslim of Pakistani descent:

"Do you ship to APO (military) addresses? I'm in the 1st Cavalry Division stationed in Iraq and we are trying to order some mats but we are looking for ships to APO first."

On the same day, Hess received this reply:

"SGT Hess,
We do not ship to APO addresses, and even if we did, we would NEVER ship to Iraq. If you were sensible, you and your troops would pull out of Iraq.

Bargain Suppliers
Discount-Mats.com"

Khetani on Monday told FOX News that the person responsible for the email reply had been fired. The Web site, meanwhile, has been temporarily taken down.

Hess emailed that he has since found two mat suppliers willing to ship to an APO address in Iraq.


One of the worst things I have ever heard was a story by a Vietnam Vet about a crate they received one day. After going on patrol and engaging in a huge fire-fight over the dead bodies of some of their buddies they returned to find a crate of dog food from a frat at Berkley with a card that said "eat, animals, eat".

Why must people take out their frustration on the military? It doesn't, hasn't decided where to go on it's own. The Sgt. has no say either even if he didn't want to be there.

Bowser
01-23-2007, 07:33 AM
"Khetani on Monday told FOX News that the person responsible for the email reply had been fired. The Web site, meanwhile, has been temporarily taken down."

Uh-huh.

I'm thinking this place might experience a drop in sales.

scott free
01-23-2007, 08:01 AM
That place is finished period.

Like a SGT. can give the order to withdraw :shake:

patteeu
01-23-2007, 09:10 AM
Wow.

banyon
01-23-2007, 09:34 AM
A private supplier has a right to refuse providing their services. That being said, their reply was out of line.

Who's wrong in this story? Donald Rumsfeld's "lighter, smaller, more efficient military fighting force". Soldiers get the screw job while KBR gets paid $7 a monogrammed towel. Costs-plus!

patteeu
01-23-2007, 09:46 AM
A private supplier has a right to cut it's own commercial throat. I hope someone pays attention to where these guys pop up next on the intraweb so they can be ruined all over again, and again, and again.

noa
01-23-2007, 10:35 AM
I'm surprised the army wasn't swayed to change its mind after that email. :rolleyes:

pikesome
01-23-2007, 11:09 AM
A private supplier has a right to refuse providing their services. That being said, their reply was out of line.

Who's wrong in this story? Donald Rumsfeld's "lighter, smaller, more efficient military fighting force". Soldiers get the screw job while KBR gets paid $7 a monogrammed towel. Costs-plus!

I think there's a difference between "I don't like the war in Iraq" and "sleep on the ground, pig".

About procurement (I did some of this while in the Navy), not everything you want the military provides. Many times someone sits down and decides want you have to have and that's what you get plus you get some discretionary "money" to spend. I was in charge of $25K a year for my office on my ship, we used about $15k in paper alone. When it came time to replace aging computers I, personally, finagled the extra money which I turned right around and spent on Dell computers. I called them up and made the order myself after getting all the approvals. New computers were not "required", they were just very, very helpful. We could have gotten along without, it would have just been harder. I don't know the specifics of this Sgt's story but I would guess that the mats aren't "necessity" from the military's point of view so they weren't issued.

pikesome
01-23-2007, 11:10 AM
I'm surprised the army wasn't swayed to change its mind after that email. :rolleyes:

They might have thought to add a new target to their bombing runs. They just have to do a DNS lookup. :)

Logical
01-23-2007, 11:17 AM
The response was clearly out of line. A simple no would have been best if they objected. By the way putting a mattress on the ground is a pretty bad idea. in less than a day it would be infested with the sand mites, lice etc that soldier might want to think of a better solution.

Radar Chief
01-23-2007, 12:12 PM
I don't know the specifics of this Sgt's story but I would guess that the mats aren't "necessity" from the military's point of view so they weren't issued.

Sounds ‘bout right. Every Army soldier is issued a mat and a “fart sack”, sleep’n bag, and it’s generally up to the company to provide a cot, or mattress and bunk whatever the case may be.