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Rooster
01-23-2007, 10:22 AM
:shrug: :shrug:

Will it run? Tulsa to dig up car buried for 50 years

POSTED: 8:20 a.m. EST, January 23, 2007


TULSA, Oklahoma (AP) -- Organizers of a coming-out party for a buried 1957 Plymouth Belvedere could use some help.

The car, which was buried in brand-new condition under the lawn of the Tulsa County Courthouse in 1957, is scheduled to be unearthed June 15 as part of the Oklahoma Centennial.

Promoters are looking for people who helped lower the car into its crypt in 1957 to perhaps shed some light on what to expect when the car is unearthed.

There's speculation the car may have turned into a pile of rust. Or that it's in pristine condition and worth thousands of dollars.

Sharon King Davis, who has chaired Tulsa's centennial efforts, looked at photos of the people responsible for burying the car in 1957 and found her grandfather.

"I wish grandpa had left me some instructions," she told the Tulsa World.

The car had been largely forgotten until Davis and her group started work on the centennial. Files on the car have vanished, so it's not clear what to expect when the lid is lifted.

What's known is that the car is on a steel pallet with jacks under the axles. Efforts were made to preserve it, but it's unclear if moisture has gotten to the metal and caused rust.

"There's a kind of Rip Van Winkle reaction," Davis says. "Most people had long ago forgotten the buried car, but as the time to dig it up nears, they are waking up and wondering about life in 1957."

Another unknown is who will be able to claim the car.

When the car was buried, a contest was announced to award the car and a $100 savings account to the person who came closest to guessing Tulsa's population in 2007.

Organizers concede that finding that person or his or her heirs may not be easy.

At the time, the guesses were recorded on microfilm and sealed in a steel container buried with the car.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/01/23/buried.car.ap/index.html

Saulbadguy
01-23-2007, 10:28 AM
They should bury Skip Towne in the hole that is left from unearthing the vehicle.

Bowser
01-23-2007, 10:31 AM
They should bury Skip Towne in the hole that is left from unearthing the vehicle.

Would he run after 50 years?

Phobia
01-23-2007, 10:34 AM
I'll bet Skip stashed a couple bags somewhere on that car.

mikeyis4dcats.
01-23-2007, 10:36 AM
They should bury Skip Towne in the hole that is left from unearthing the vehicle.

you sure he'd fit?

WilliamTheIrish
01-23-2007, 10:38 AM
Those Mobilehomans. They so crazy.

boogblaster
01-23-2007, 10:39 AM
Skip will need, food,water,oxygen,internet service,mens mags,anti-aging creme"to be used only on extremities" and last cable TV service....

mikeyis4dcats.
01-23-2007, 10:40 AM
Skip will need, food,water,oxygen,internet service,mens mags,anti-aging creme"to be used only on extremities" and last cable TV service....

so...he gets none of that.

Phobia
01-23-2007, 10:55 AM
Seriously though - a Plymouth Belvedere? Is that the equivelent of burying a Saturn today? Who is gonna want that trash in 50 years?

"It could be worth thousands"?!?!?! Maybe to that casino who always buys crappy stuff for publicity on ebay.

boogblaster
01-23-2007, 10:57 AM
Nice car back-in-the-day tho....

Demonpenz
01-23-2007, 10:59 AM
Does it come with bob uker?

Reerun_KC
01-23-2007, 11:02 AM
Seriously though - a Plymouth Belvedere? Is that the equivelent of burying a Saturn today? Who is gonna want that trash in 50 years?

"It could be worth thousands"?!?!?! Maybe to that casino who always buys crappy stuff for publicity on ebay.


If that car is in very good condition, with no or little miles on it. Some collector will pay serious Jack for it...

Bowser
01-23-2007, 11:04 AM
I bet it IS worth thousands.


Of pesos.

Reerun_KC
01-23-2007, 11:04 AM
They should bury Skip Towne in the hole that is left from unearthing the vehicle.


I was thinking they might be able to lower your trailer down in that hole...

This way you would have one of those energy efficent mobile homes...

FAX
01-23-2007, 11:05 AM
That reminds me. I buried some hashish about 20 years ago near a hedge row just south of Olathe. I wonder if it's still there.

If anybody sees a hedge row just south of Olathe, you're welcome to it.

FAX

Baconeater
01-23-2007, 11:31 AM
Unless they vacuum-packed that car it's going to be a rusty, moldy mess.

Redrum_69
01-23-2007, 11:34 AM
That reminds me. I buried some hashish about 20 years ago near a hedge row just south of Olathe. I wonder if it's still there.

If anybody sees a hedge row just south of Olathe, you're welcome to it.

FAX


you grew up in olathe?


This explains everything now

FAX
01-23-2007, 11:36 AM
you grew up in olathe?


This explains everything now

No, I didn't grow up in Olathe, silly Mr. Redrum_69.

Sometimes, you jump to conclusions like they were moms.

FAX

boogblaster
01-23-2007, 11:37 AM
Which end of the row is it in hiding...

Baconeater
01-23-2007, 11:44 AM
Here's what a 1957 Plymouth Belvedere looks like if anyone's curious. Kind of a cool old rig.

http://oldcarandtruckpictures.com/Chrysler/1957_Plymouth_Belvedere_Htp.jpg

headsnap
01-23-2007, 11:46 AM
Which end of the row is it in hiding...
20 years too late dude, I got it! :bong:

Wile_E_Coyote
01-23-2007, 11:52 AM
This has Stephen King written all over it. Christine 1958 Plymuth Furry

Fairplay
01-23-2007, 11:52 AM
I would guess the car would fetch a good price on E-Bay.

Reerun_KC
01-23-2007, 11:54 AM
Here's what a 1957 Plymouth Belvedere looks like if anyone's curious. Kind of a cool old rig.

http://oldcarandtruckpictures.com/Chrysler/1957_Plymouth_Belvedere_Htp.jpg


Pretty sweet old ride!

HemiEd
01-23-2007, 12:04 PM
Nice post of the article. I have been waiting since the late 60s on this event. My sources back then told me it was a 1957 Fury, much different than a Belvedere. The Fury from 56-58 was a special car, it was also my first car in high school. In the mid 80s I did a frame off restoration on one. They have Dual 4s, 150 mph speedo with gold accents on a creme white body. If it is really a Fury, it is probably worth mid six figures. Supposedly, there is a 5 gallon can of "Ethyl" fuel down there with it.

HemiEd
01-23-2007, 12:06 PM
Here's what a 1957 Plymouth Belvedere looks like if anyone's curious. Kind of a cool old rig.

http://oldcarandtruckpictures.com/Chrysler/1957_Plymouth_Belvedere_Htp.jpg


That is actually a '58.

Reerun_KC
01-23-2007, 12:12 PM
Nice post of the article. I have been waiting since the late 60s on this event. My sources back then told me it was a 1957 Fury, much different than a Belvedere. The Fury from 56-58 was a special car, it was also my first car in high school. In the mid 80s I did a frame off restoration on one. They have Dual 4s, 150 mph speedo with gold accents on a creme white body. If it is really a Fury, it is probably worth mid six figures. Supposedly, there is a 5 gallon can of "Ethyl" fuel down there with it.

Where in the Heck is that thing burried?

Easy 6
01-23-2007, 12:33 PM
Here's what a 1957 Plymouth Belvedere looks like if anyone's curious. Kind of a cool old rig.

http://oldcarandtruckpictures.com/Chrysler/1957_Plymouth_Belvedere_Htp.jpg

Paint that black & it would be BAD ASS.

HemiEd
01-23-2007, 12:36 PM
Where in the Heck is that thing burried?
This article gives more specifics than I have ever heard before. The information I have read before said it is in a tomb, commemorating 1957. Supposedly there are additional artifacts from 1957 buried along with it. I have always found it funny that they thought the fuel would last that long, it is probably tar by now. The legend indicated they thought we might no longer be using fossil fuels in 2007.

Wile_E_Coyote
01-23-2007, 12:43 PM
Some Hollywood crazy will want the DNA from back seat pecker tracks for a future child

Fish
01-23-2007, 12:56 PM
I have always found it funny that they thought the fuel would last that long, it is probably tar by now. The legend indicated they thought we might no longer be using fossil fuels in 2007.

Everybody knows we'll be using flying cars by the year 2003.....

http://www.winktimber.com/reader/images/jetsons3cu.jpg

HemiEd
01-23-2007, 01:00 PM
Everybody knows we'll be using flying cars by the year 2003.....




There is a lot of truth to that, really.

Rain Man
01-23-2007, 02:16 PM
This is possibly the coolest story ever about Oklahoma.

Wouldn't it be wild if they opened it up and there was a body in the trunk?

Phobia
01-23-2007, 02:35 PM
Wouldn't it be cool if they dug it up and somebody (me) had taken it out and joyridden around the country until it was thrashed and then reburied then thing in the night?

Baconeater
01-23-2007, 02:42 PM
That is actually a '58.
Dammit Google!:cuss:

Reerun_KC
01-23-2007, 02:43 PM
Wouldn't it be cool if they dug it up and somebody (me) had taken it out and joyridden around the country until it was thrashed and then reburied then thing in the night?


I am sure someone would of noticed the dirt being moved....

Phobia
01-23-2007, 02:45 PM
I am sure someone would of noticed the dirt being moved....

I think you overestimate their power of observation in Tulsa.

Rooster
01-23-2007, 03:05 PM
Here is a picture of the vault the car was put into. I guess they wrapped it in plastic before lowering it into the hole. It actually might be in decent shape.

Rooster
01-23-2007, 03:13 PM
A picture of it going into the tomb.

Radar Chief
01-23-2007, 03:21 PM
That is actually a '58.

:LOL: :thumb: I'll take your word for it, but how can you tell? :shrug:

Eric
01-23-2007, 03:22 PM
Plastic bagged?

If not then it's rust.

HemiEd
01-23-2007, 03:39 PM
:LOL: :thumb: I'll take your word for it, but how can you tell? :shrug:

There are three of quick giveaways.
1) the 58 had quad headlights, the 57 had a smaller parking light where the inner headlight would be.
2) the 57 Belvedere had downward side spears, the 58 had the full upward ones that extend in to the fin like the picture.
3) the hubcaps are the deluxe 58s, the 57s had cone type that was very popular with the hotrodders.
:D

Rooster
01-23-2007, 03:41 PM
There are three of quick giveaways.
1) the 58 had quad headlights, the 57 had a smaller parking light where the inner headlight would be.
2) the 57 Belvedere had downward side spears, the 58 had the full upward ones that extend in to the fin like the picture.
3) the hubcaps are the deluxe 58s, the 57s had cone type that was very popular with the hotrodders.
:D

:wayne: :wayne: :)

Reerun_KC
01-23-2007, 03:52 PM
I think I might make a road trip up there that day just to see what it is all about!

HemiEd
01-23-2007, 03:55 PM
:wayne: :wayne: :)

I actually have kind of a shrine to the 56-58s in my Den.
Here is a picture of a rather humble 57 Belvedere from the rear. Tail lights are different as well, but you can see the side spear thing I am talking about. :D

Reerun_KC
01-23-2007, 04:01 PM
Anybody for a CP's gathering up in T-Town on that day?

Radar Chief
01-23-2007, 04:02 PM
:wayne: :wayne: :)

X2. We're not worthy. ;)

HemiEd
01-23-2007, 04:04 PM
Anybody for a CP's gathering up in T-Town on that day?

June 15th, I have always planned on going to this if the legend were true. Since the picture Rooster posted is of a Belvedere, and not a Fury, my interest is not as strong as it was. But who knows, I will wait and see when the time gets closer.

Reerun_KC
01-23-2007, 04:08 PM
June 15th, I have always planned on going to this if the legend were true. Since the picture Rooster posted is of a Belvedere, and not a Fury, my interest is not as strong as it was. But who knows, I will wait and see when the time gets closer.


K, keep in touch. I know my wife and kids would love to see this... I still think it would be pretty neat to see what kind of shape the car is in when it comes up...

KCChiefsMan
01-23-2007, 04:13 PM
and why should we care about this?

HemiEd
01-23-2007, 04:13 PM
X2. We're not worthy. ;)

Oh yes you are, I have just obsessed with this series of cars since about 1966. :banghead:

One more thing, the forward fender markers are different. The tall fin thing you see sticking up on the 58 is low profile on the 57, with a 1 inch gold ball added to the Fury. :D

JimNasium
01-23-2007, 04:15 PM
and why should we care about this?
It's called a "human interest story." We all know you are interested in robots so just leave this thread alone.

Hydrae
01-23-2007, 07:13 PM
I am impressed Ed. I knew you were into Mopars but that level of interest is almost scary. Just don't ask me to identify 68-70 mid-size Pontiacs (LeMans, GTO, Tempest) or I would do the same thing. :) Most anything else is an educated guess at best though.

Psyko Tek
01-23-2007, 08:19 PM
http://www.buriedcar.com/index.cfm

link to video of car as it goes into the ground

Ari Chi3fs
01-23-2007, 08:33 PM
Wow. That car has been in the hole for fifty years, without human contact. It is gonna be pissed, not to mention psychologically ****ed up.

sedated
01-23-2007, 08:33 PM
figures it's in Tulsa.

everyone in that town would have killed themselves if they had any buildings tall enough to throw themselves off

Zebedee DuBois
01-23-2007, 08:39 PM
I am against this idea of things created in 1957 turning 50 years old.

It is just so wrong.

bogie
01-23-2007, 08:48 PM
I am against this idea of things created in 1957 turning 50 years old.

It is just so wrong.

I agree. Especially Oct. of 1957. I'm also against Schlitz because the first time I got completely wasted was in FFA 1972ish on Schlitz Malt liquor beer. Oh man did I get wasted. On the other hand, I have fond memories of my first drunk.

HemiEd
01-23-2007, 09:20 PM
http://www.buriedcar.com/index.cfm

link to video of car as it goes into the ground

I can not even express how much I enjoyed that, thanks!

HemiEd
01-23-2007, 09:26 PM
I am impressed Ed. I knew you were into Mopars but that level of interest is almost scary. Just don't ask me to identify 68-70 mid-size Pontiacs (LeMans, GTO, Tempest) or I would do the same thing. :) Most anything else is an educated guess at best though.

This has been the most interesting thread to me I have ever seen on the planet. In almost 40 years of knowing about this legend, only one other time did I see anything in print. In one of my Mopar mags, probably about 10 years ago, they had a short blurb about it being a Fury.
Those 68-70 mid-size Pontiacs are nice, here comes the JUDGE! I used to have a Buddy that had an orange GTO Judge, damn it was fast.

HemiEd
06-08-2007, 11:50 AM
Well, the time is drawing near for Tulsa's big day. Is anyone going to this event?

I actually might, I will be coming back from Ft. Worth to Wichita and I heard Oklahoma may have paved a path to Tulsa.

This is the biggest event in Tulsa's history!

Buehler445
06-08-2007, 12:17 PM
http://www.buriedcar.com/index.cfm

link to video of car as it goes into the ground

I got a Page not found :deevee: Help?

John_Wayne
06-08-2007, 12:18 PM
Well, the time is drawing near for Tulsa's big day. Is anyone going to this event?

I actually might, I will be coming back from Ft. Worth to Wichita and I heard Oklahoma may have paved a path to Tulsa.

This is the biggest event in Tulsa's history! Ummmmm. No. Take pictures for all of us.

HemiEd
06-08-2007, 12:26 PM
I got a Page not found :deevee: Help?

Try this one.

http://www.forwardlook.net/19571958Plymouth/countdown.asp

Reerun_KC
06-08-2007, 12:33 PM
Well wont be able to go watch it, but i hope they put it and the contents on Display somewhere so we can at least see it sometime...

Buehler445
06-08-2007, 12:39 PM
Try this one.

http://www.forwardlook.net/19571958Plymouth/countdown.asp

Good thanks.

alanm
06-08-2007, 01:37 PM
I am against this idea of things created in 1957 turning 50 years old.

It is just so wrong.
I hear you. :deevee:

PastorMikH
06-08-2007, 02:00 PM
It's a Mopar so I doubt it runs - I doubt it ran when they burried it. I wonder if they buried any spare parts with it?



:)

HemiEd
06-08-2007, 02:11 PM
It's a Mopar so I doubt it runs - I doubt it ran when they burried it. I wonder if they buried any spare parts with it?



:)

You sent the bait out, and I will bite.:D

I am pretty curious, just how good of job they did embalming this car. It doesn't matter what kind of car it is, those rings have got to be relaxed against those cylinder walls since they have not moved in 50 years.
Shouldn't be many misquitos within quite a distance from Tulsa after they try and fire it. I hope they manually prime the oil pressure, or it won't do anything but lock up.

Also, '57 was the beginning of a 3 year period, that Chrysler did not treat the inside/backside of the metal on doors, fenders etc. I am expecting a very rusty skeleton, but hope I am wrong.

Yellowbutter72
06-08-2007, 10:15 PM
Well, the time is drawing near for Tulsa's big day. Is anyone going to this event?

I actually might, I will be coming back from Ft. Worth to Wichita and I heard Oklahoma may have paved a path to Tulsa.

This is the biggest event in Tulsa's history!

Wow! I might go now! That is Father's Day weekend though! :)

HemiEd
06-08-2007, 10:23 PM
Wow! I might go now! That is Father's Day weekend though! :)

I know, that kind of sucks. It looks like we might already be headed back to Chicago by then now. I hope they have good pictures posted on the site. I am not too happy about them unveiling it in a different location than the dig. They might do a bunch of cosmetic work, but who knows. :shrug:

Baconeater
06-08-2007, 10:36 PM
I know, that kind of sucks. It looks like we might already be headed back to Chicago by then now. I hope they have good pictures posted on the site. I am not too happy about them unveiling it in a different location than the dig. They might do a bunch of cosmetic work, but who knows. :shrug:
WTF? Does that mean no one will allowed to view it actually coming out of the ground? What amount of time will be in between it being unearthed and actually "unveiled"? That sounds kinda fishy to me. :hmmm:

Rooster
06-11-2007, 04:48 PM
Bump.....

TinyEvel
06-11-2007, 07:12 PM
On the official site, there are some pics of it in the ground wrapped in "styrolene".

It looks like it's in some "vault" of cement or something, so there's a pretty good chance that it will be in good shape. Though, obviously, they're not going to be able to just charge the battery and run it. I wonder if they at least drained all the fluids out of it.

Pretty awesome if they found a body in the trunk.

HemiEd
06-15-2007, 07:42 AM
WTF? Does that mean no one will allowed to view it actually coming out of the ground? What amount of time will be in between it being unearthed and actually "unveiled"? That sounds kinda fishy to me. :hmmm:

I think Tulsa is seeing this method as the best chance to cash in on their biggest event in history. They are selling tickets. Today is the day!

Reerun_KC
06-15-2007, 07:45 AM
I think Tulsa is seeing this method as the best chance to cash in on their biggest event in history. They are selling tickets. Today is the day!


Would love to go, but not possible..

I am sure it will be on the news at some point?

Rooster
06-15-2007, 08:31 AM
I think Tulsa is seeing this method as the best chance to cash in on their biggest event in history. They are selling tickets. Today is the day!

Very cool. I am curious to she how the old girl held up.

afchiefs
06-15-2007, 08:35 AM
link w/pics

http://www.buriedcar.com/photo_gallery.asp

Lzen
06-15-2007, 08:38 AM
It's a Mopar so I doubt it runs - I doubt it ran when they burried it. I wonder if they buried any spare parts with it?



:)

Dang, I was gonna use that joke.

Buehler445
06-15-2007, 08:45 AM
So what time were they going to dig it up?

seclark
06-15-2007, 08:46 AM
So what time were they going to dig it up?
" Unveiling of Belvedere and Opening of Capsule
Friday, June 15, 2007 6:30pm"

per the web site(thanks afchiefs)
sec

Wile_E_Coyote
06-15-2007, 09:17 AM
David Blaine will be behind the wheel

Rooster
06-15-2007, 09:20 AM
David Blaine will be behind the wheel

ROFL ROFL

REDHOTGTO
06-15-2007, 09:45 AM
my brother is down there right now, he was invited to put his 1937 plymouth in the show inside the building, only 99 cars were asked to be in the show i guess its a big honor. any ways i ought to have some cool pics later when he gets back,.

Dartgod
06-15-2007, 11:12 AM
Uh oh. They opened the vault to discover that it was full of water.

Not good....

http://www.tulsaworld.com/webextra/content/2007/videos/buriedcar/buriedcar.html

Rooster
06-15-2007, 11:15 AM
Uh oh. They opened the vault to discover that it was full of water.

Not good....

http://www.tulsaworld.com/webextra/content/2007/videos/buriedcar/buriedcar.html

Oh No!! Not good at all. :banghead:

Buehler445
06-15-2007, 11:15 AM
Uh oh. They opened the vault to discover that it was full of water.

Not good....

http://www.tulsaworld.com/webextra/content/2007/videos/buriedcar/buriedcar.html

Poop. Hopefully the plastic around the car held.

JimNasium
06-15-2007, 11:16 AM
Uh oh. They opened the vault to discover that it was full of water.

Not good....

http://www.tulsaworld.com/webextra/content/2007/videos/buriedcar/buriedcar.html
I kind of expected that there would be some significant water issues.

Molitoth
06-15-2007, 12:10 PM
I figure its just a rusty shell, but are there any pics of it uncovered?

JimNasium
06-15-2007, 12:59 PM
I figure its just a rusty shell, but are there any pics of it uncovered?
They don't "unveil" it until 5:30 p.m.

Reerun_KC
06-15-2007, 01:01 PM
Man that isnt good... Lets hope the plastic held...

JimNasium
06-15-2007, 01:32 PM
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/06/15/tulsas-buried-belvedere-sees-the-sun-again/?hp

Reerun_KC
06-15-2007, 03:12 PM
That thing is hosed....

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/06/15/us/15buried533.jpg

Cochise
06-15-2007, 04:19 PM
You can see right there, it's nothing but rust.

Rooster
06-15-2007, 04:27 PM
You can see right there, it's nothing but rust.

That will buff right out. :)

I know what you mean though. The fin is looking a little crusty. I bet it smelled wonderful when they cracked the tomb open.

Buehler445
06-15-2007, 04:29 PM
That will buff right out. :)

I know what you mean though. The fin is looking a little crusty. I bet it smelled wonderful when they cracked the tomb open.

HA! I never thought about that, but I bet there was some serious funk coming out of that hole.

Baconeater
06-16-2007, 11:41 AM
Yep, this thing is definitely toast, they may as well have stored it in a lake. Here's some pics of it after the unveiling.

Phobia
06-16-2007, 11:47 AM
What a letdown. Yawn.

cdcox
06-16-2007, 12:08 PM
Nothing several hudred pounds of Bondo couldn't fix.

SPchief
06-16-2007, 01:57 PM
Did it start?

Logical
06-16-2007, 03:04 PM
Did it start?The mystery and suspense are almost painful.

Hydrae
06-16-2007, 03:11 PM
Aw, that's too bad.

gblowfish
06-16-2007, 03:16 PM
Come on in to the Big Car Lot. No money down, ez financing, drive it home today!

PastorMikH
06-16-2007, 04:30 PM
Wow. That thing would have faired better in some old farmer's barn for 50 years. Shoot, it probably wouldn't be any worse than that if they had parked it out on the back 40 along the fence row.

PastorMikH
06-16-2007, 04:31 PM
On further looking, I wonder how much of that brown stuff is dirt instead of rust and what the car will look like after a good hose down.

Phobia
06-16-2007, 04:45 PM
I'm wondering how that car would look slammed, lowered, chopped, and riding on 22's.

cdcox
06-16-2007, 04:45 PM
On further looking, I wonder how much of that brown stuff is dirt instead of rust and what the car will look like after a good hose down.

A brown spot, four tires, and some glass?

LocoChiefsFan
06-16-2007, 05:40 PM
HAHA, go to www.buriedcar.com and check out the pics. That car is trashed. The vault was full of water when they dug it up.

MIAdragon
06-16-2007, 07:21 PM
I know its not mint but Id like to see it after a few hours of pressure washing. I bet it a lot better off than most think.

Buehler445
06-16-2007, 08:10 PM
I know its not mint but Id like to see it after a few hours of pressure washing. I bet it a lot better off than most think.

I haven't ever buried a car for 50 years, but I have a feeling that if dirt got in, moisture did too.

HemiEd
06-17-2007, 12:37 AM
Come on in to the Big Car Lot. No money down, ez financing, drive it home today!
Tulsa couldn't even bag it right, they suck. This is worse than I could have imagined.

L.A. Chieffan
06-17-2007, 12:38 AM
Tulsa sucks

Simplex3
06-17-2007, 06:29 AM
LMAO

I'd say we should dig this thread up again in 50 years and see how it looks, but it's already a rusty pile of s**t.

ChiefaRoo
06-17-2007, 10:59 PM
Skips relatives blew it.

Dunit35
06-18-2007, 12:55 AM
I wonder what they could've done differently for it to have come out looking better?

TinyEvel
06-18-2007, 01:01 AM
I wonder what they could've done differently for it to have come out looking better?

Umm, maybe if they put a DRAIN HOLE in the bottom of the "vault." Water seeped in around the lid, or maybe leeched in through the concrete, and sat in there.

Dunit35
06-18-2007, 01:09 AM
Umm, maybe if they put a DRAIN HOLE in the bottom of the "vault." Water seeped in around the lid, or maybe leeched in through the concrete, and sat in there.


The drain hole, would it have just drained the water into the ground or would they have spent a few dollars and every often sucked the water out of the vault?

KcMizzou
06-18-2007, 01:19 AM
Come on in to the Big Car Lot. No money down, ez financing, drive it home today!I bought a car like that once. It wasn't very depenable.

Saggysack
06-18-2007, 06:46 AM
The drain hole, would it have just drained the water into the ground or would they have spent a few dollars and every often sucked the water out of the vault?

Egads, no. A drain hole would have caused more problems. You want to keep water out of something, a hole anywhere isn't a good start. Surely that drain hole would clogged at some point over 50 years, ruining any advantage you would have been trying for. Sucking the water out every so often would have required to open the vault, thus defeating the purpose of a time capsule.

Water is a very hard thing to keep out. It will seep into anything. Only thing I could think of that would have preserved the car better would be an outside and inside seal of the vault. The plastic bagging and concrete crypt obviously weren't enough to keep back mother nature. Only thing I could think of to stem the flow of water would have been to seal it completely on the inside and outside of the vault with a rubber/plastic, and even then it may not have been able to hold back the water. Look at the pics of the inside of the vault. The water lines suggest that at one point the car was completely under water. You gotta wonder how many times throughtout the years the vault had filled up and then drained, without any drain holes. With a drain hole it would have jsut given water a free way in.

Anyway, it was a great effort and idea from Tulsa. Just too hard to overcome the obstacle 50yrs would bring.

HemiEd
06-18-2007, 07:12 AM
Egads, no. A drain hole would have caused more problems. You want to keep water out of something, a hole anywhere isn't a good start. Surely that drain hole would clogged at some point over 50 years, ruining any advantage you would have been trying for. Sucking the water out every so often would have required to open the vault, thus defeating the purpose of a time capsule.

Water is a very hard thing to keep out. It will seep into anything. Only thing I could think of that would have preserved the car better would be an outside and inside seal of the vault. The plastic bagging and concrete crypt obviously weren't enough to keep back mother nature. Only thing I could think of to stem the flow of water would have been to seal it completely on the inside and outside of the vault with a rubber/plastic, and even then it may not have been able to hold back the water. Look at the pics of the inside of the vault. The water lines suggest that at one point the car was completely under water. You gotta wonder how many times throughtout the years the vault had filled up and then drained, without any drain holes. With a drain hole it would have jsut given water a free way in.

Anyway, it was a great effort and idea from Tulsa. Just too hard to overcome the obstacle 50yrs would bring.

Sealing the concrete would have been a nice move on their part. They were covering the bottoms of those cars with undercoating back in '57.

It is that black rubbery crap you can not get off of these cars without chiseling it off.

They should have undercoated the whole concreate vault.

Baconeater
06-18-2007, 07:55 AM
Sealing the concrete would have been a nice move on their part. They were covering the bottoms of those cars with undercoating back in '57.

It is that black rubbery crap you can not get off of these cars without chiseling it off.

They should have undercoated the whole concreate vault.
You can get undercoating off without a chisel, you just have to lay on the ground and scrub it off with white kerosene. I used to have to do just that when I worked at Ming, it sucked ass.

Reerun_KC
06-18-2007, 08:10 AM
IT really sucks that the car was completely screwed...

There isnt much that is salvagable on her... So what do you do now? put it under glass and display it in a museum?

Dartgod
06-18-2007, 08:17 AM
IT really sucks that the car was completely screwed...

There isnt much that is salvagable on her... So what do you do now? put it under glass and display it in a museum?Apparently, some people think it is quite valuable.
Despite its condition, the Belvedere is still worth a mint. Collectors eager to obtain a piece of Americana are rumored to be offering hundreds of thousands of dollars for it.

Link (http://www.latimes.com/classified/automotive/news/la-na-plymouth16jun16,1,5604310.story?ctrack=1&cset=true)

Reerun_KC
06-18-2007, 08:18 AM
Apparently, some people think it is quite valuable.


Well I have been wrong before and I guess I am wrong now...

Someone will buy it and restore it back I am sure....

Rooster
06-18-2007, 10:31 AM
Does anyone know if the time capsule was ruined? It had a bunch of predictions about 2007 etc. :shrug:

BigChiefFan
06-18-2007, 10:57 AM
It's disappointing, but I wouldn't call a whole community sucky because a car wasn't in mint condition. Get a grip. At least Tulsa has the balls to do somerthing like this in the 1st place.

ChiefButthurt
06-18-2007, 10:59 AM
No, I didn't grow up in Olathe, silly Mr. Redrum_69.

Sometimes, you jump to conclusions like they were moms.

FAX


ROFL You're funnier than Rainman, and Rainman is hilarious.

ROYC75
06-18-2007, 11:32 AM
I grew up in Louisburg,Ks, they did a time capsule similar to this for our 1966 centennial . The public brought stuff to put in it. It's set to dig up in 2016 ..... I plan on being there for it .

HemiEd
06-18-2007, 11:47 AM
It's disappointing, but I wouldn't call a whole community sucky because a car wasn't in mint condition. Get a grip. At least Tulsa has the balls to do somerthing like this in the 1st place.

I have always hated Tulsa, being a former WSU student. TULSA SUCKS!!

Reerun_KC
06-18-2007, 11:48 AM
I have always hated Tulsa, being a former WSU student. TULSA SUCKS!!

Hate Much...

HemiEd
06-18-2007, 11:52 AM
Hate Much...

Well, if you read this entire thread, I have been waiting on this event for quite some time.

Tulsa even screwed that up, but they did remember when 6-15-2007 rolled around. I was anticipating having to remind them of it. :D

BigChiefFan
06-18-2007, 11:53 AM
I have always hated Tulsa, being a former WSU student. TULSA SUCKS!!
I know. Wichita is so awesome-it's the finest city in all of of Kansas. LOL.

Rooster
06-18-2007, 02:49 PM
It'll be tough to jumpstart classic car after 50-year burial
TULSA, Oklahoma (AP) -- Calling it "our King Tut's tomb," thousands of people watched as a 1957 Plymouth Belvedere was pulled from the ground where it had been buried for 50 years as a time capsule of American Midwest culture.

The concrete vault encasing the car may have been built to withstand a nuclear attack, but it couldn't keep away water.

At Friday's ceremony, protective wrapping was removed to show the mud-caked vintage vehicle covered in rust. Shiny chrome was still visible around the doors and front fender, and workers were able to put air in the tires.

"I'll tell you what, she's a mess. Look at her," said legendary car builder Boyd Coddington, who was unable to start the car as planned.

From the trunk, organizers pulled out some of the objects buried to celebrate Oklahoma's 50 years of statehood -- a 5-gallon can of leaded gasoline, which went for 24 cents a gallon in those days, and rusted cans of Schlitz beer.

The contents of a "typical" woman's handbag, including 14 bobby pins, lipstick and a bottle of tranquilizers, were supposed to be in the glove box, but all that was found looked like a lump of rotted leather.

Workers also searched for a spool of microfilm that recorded the entries of a contest to determine who would win the car. The person who guessed the closest of what Tulsa's population would be in 2007 -- 382,457 -- would win. So far, all they found were guesses of the population written on postcards.

That person, or his or her heirs, will get the car by June 22, along with a $100 savings account, which is worth about $1,200 today with interest.

A separate time capsule buried with the car was opened, and organizers removed and unfolded an unfaded American flag. Other historical documents, aerial maps of the city and postcards were in good condition.

"We don't care what condition it's in," said Bob Petri. "It's just the whole idea somebody thought of it in 1957 and here we are living it."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/06/15/buried.classic.ap/index.html

Yellowbutter72
06-18-2007, 03:24 PM
Well, if you read this entire thread, I have been waiting on this event for quite some time.

Tulsa even screwed that up, but they did remember when 6-15-2007 rolled around. I was anticipating having to remind them of it. :D

It doesn't matter if we like Tulsa or not (Wichita State rivalary) and this is my opinion only, but someone had to be pretty shart to think of this stunt that 50 years later would cause such a comotion to get people to come to Tulsa to spend money in their town! So I think there might be someone smart in Tulsa.

Reerun_KC
06-18-2007, 03:55 PM
They should redo the vault and drop another car in there for another 50 years....

Reerun_KC
06-18-2007, 03:57 PM
Maybe they should of put the vault above ground?

Just a thought...

ChiefaRoo
06-18-2007, 03:59 PM
I think they ought to bury all of Tulsa in a giant Hefty Steel sack and in 50 years I'll come open it up and see how Skip held up while I pick at his carcass with a long stick.

UL Washington
06-18-2007, 05:37 PM
This is the most disapointing vault opening that didn't involve Geraldo Rivera ever.

HemiEd
06-18-2007, 05:57 PM
It doesn't matter if we like Tulsa or not (Wichita State rivalary) and this is my opinion only, but someone had to be pretty shart to think of this stunt that 50 years later would cause such a comotion to get people to come to Tulsa to spend money in their town! So I think there might be someone smart in Tulsa.

With a population, pushing 400,000, they probably do have a citizen or two that could make a decision to come in out of the rain. :p