Quick quesiton on OBAMA

[recxjake]

I'm saddened by the news that Newt Gingrich is not going to run for President (unless last resort he said) so I'm back to the drawing board for supporting a POTUS candidate. Im leaning towards Gov. Mike Huckabee or Mitt Romney... Rudi and McCain will not get my vote....

Back to my original question.... and I'm not trying to be rude.... But why does everyone have a hard on for Obama? The only thing that I think is good about him is that he speaks well. He has yet to do anything as a Senator.... so why does everyone like him?

[Jenson71]

One thing that separates him is he's rather young. He's not part of the Vietnam generation.

[noa]

He makes me feel special

[CRONUS]

Just curious, what do you have against Rudi Giulianni?

[patteeu]

People are captivated by his charisma and the fact that he hasn't been exposed as a partisan because he has a talent of being able to speak in satisfying but insubstantial generalities. He's also had the luxury of not having to go very negative so far in his short career. His Senatorial opponent was never a threat so he didn't have to break a sweat in that campaign. I see that as a weakness though because running for President is going to be a whole other ballgame and they throw nasty curves in the big leagues. JMO.

[recxjake]

Just curious, what do you have against Rudi Giulianni?

Well, I initially liked Rudi because I thought he was electable and thats what I wanted most. But I just couldn't suppport someone who has such liberal social views... also being Mayor doesn't qualify you to be President... yes New York, but he just doesnt have what it takes for me to support him.

[patteeu]

Just curious, what do you have against Rudi Giulianni?

Rexjake, unless your problem with Giulianni is his hawkishness on the GWoT or his support for the drug war, I don't see much room for you to embrace Obama. Obama will be just as pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, and pro-gun control as Giulianni, I suspect. And while I'm sure the dem-sympathizers on the board will squeal over this, You can expect Guilianni to run a tighter fiscal ship than Obama too.

[Sully]

Back to my original question.... and I'm not trying to be rude.... But why does everyone have a hard on for Obama? The only thing that I think is good about him is that he speaks well. He has yet to do anything as a Senator.... so why does everyone like him?

Why do you care? You won't be voting for him, anyway.

[CRONUS]

Well, I initially liked Rudi because I thought he was electable and thats what I wanted most. But I just couldn't suppport someone who has such liberal social views... also being Mayor doesn't qualify you to be President... yes New York, but he just doesnt have what it takes for me to support him.I find the stand on Mayor curious being as it is more populous and has a bigger economy than states of a couple of those you said you would support. If you have a problem with his social issues (which is what I like most about him as a Republican candidate) then that is a different story and understandable as a reason.

[Jenson71]

By the way, the new spelling is '08AMA.

[recxjake]

Rexjake, unless your problem with Giulianni is his hawkishness on the GWoT or his support for the drug war, I don't see much room for you to embrace Obama. Obama will be just as pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, and pro-gun control as Giulianni, I suspect. And while I'm sure the dem-sympathizers on the board will squeal over this, You can expect Guilianni to run a tighter fiscal ship than Obama too.

I'm not voting for him, I just want to know why people like him, he hasn't done anything

[recxjake]

I find the stand on Mayor curious being as it is more populous and has a bigger economy than states of a couple of those you said you would support. If you have a problem with his social issues (which is what I like most about him as a Republican candidate) then that is a different story and understandable as a reason.

the whole mayor thing isn't why I'm not going to support him, just another reason on a growing list.

[DaneMcCloud]

I'm not voting for him, I just want to know why people like him, he hasn't done anything

Way to keep an open mind. The Primaries haven't even begun, but you've already decided who you're NOT voting for in 2008.

Great electorate we have :rolleyes:

[Jenson71]

I'm not voting for him, I just want to know why people like him, he hasn't done anything

"Two years in the U.S. Senate. Seven years in the Illinois Senate. One loss in a primary election for the U.S. House of Representatives. One stirring keynote address at a Democratic National Convention. Two best-selling books."

[Taco John]

I'm not voting for him, I just want to know why people like him, he hasn't done anything



I like '08AMA because he's a guy who I can relate to. He came from a hard working immigrant family, and worked his way to the position he is at now without having anything handed to him along the way. Like I mentioned this morning, I respect '08AMA for the same reasons I respect a line worker who climbs his way up to management. He's seen the bottom and won't forget it once he's on top. When he talks about America, he's talking about the real America that people on the bottom see. Not some construction that some speech writers put together. I think he's got a lot of credibility with the blue collar of America because of it. He's not like a Bush, who silver spooned it to where he is. In fact, he's the anti-Bush in just about every way... Came from a poor background, earned everything he got, and is incredibly smart. And as a side bonus, he's very charismatic and speaks well. When I listen to him talk, I feel good about America.

[|Zach|]

By the way, the new spelling is '08AMA.
:clap:

[BucEyedPea]

People are captivated by his charisma and the fact that he hasn't been exposed as a partisan because he has a talent of being able to speak in satisfying but insubstantial generalities.
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Yep, we're entering election season again. *sigh* :(

[patteeu]

Way to keep an open mind. The Primaries haven't even begun, but you've already decided who you're NOT voting for in 2008.

Great electorate we have :rolleyes:

If you follow politics, I see nothing wrong with being able to eliminate some candidates at this point.

[CRONUS]

I like '08AMA because he's a guy who I can relate to. He came from a hard working immigrant family, and worked his way to the position he is at now without having anything handed to him along the way. Like I mentioned this morning, I respect '08AMA for the same reasons I respect a line worker who climbs his way up to management. He's seen the bottom and won't forget it once he's on top. When he talks about America, he's talking about the real America that people on the bottom see. Not some construction that some speech writers put together. I think he's got a lot of credibility with the blue collar of America because of it. He's not like a Bush, who silver spooned it to where he is. In fact, he's the anti-Bush in just about every way... Came from a poor background, earned everything he got, and is incredibly smart. And as a side bonus, he's very charismatic and speaks well. When I listen to him talk, I feel good about America.

Just curious has he set up a website yet for his run?

[Taco John]

Just curious has he set up a website yet for his run?

http://www.barackobama.com/

[Pitt Gorilla]

(psst...hey...you know he's a Muslim atheist "Uncle Tom", don't you?)

[|Zach|]

(psst...hey...you know he's a Muslim atheist "Uncle Tom", don't you?)
You have been pushing this and pushing this. ROFL

[Jenson71]

(psst...hey...you know he's a Muslim atheist "Uncle Tom", don't you?)

And a sex offender! Believe it. Believe it. Beliiiiieeeeve it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=559kCaH1Shw

[CRONUS]

http://www.barackobama.com/
Thanks TJ I have been wanting to do a more complete review of his positions. What I know I like, but I admit to not having that much info yet.

[Pitt Gorilla]

And a sex offender! Believe it. Believe it. Beliiiiieeeeve it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=559kCaH1ShwOMG, teh liberalz media !!1

[banyon]

Why do you care? You won't be voting for him, anyway.

Funny. This is almost a clone of the post last week that Bunnytdr made where he said that I couldn't be interested in the Repub's nominating process.(Re: Huckabee)

I think Recxjake has just as much right to be interested in the Dem nomination process, since they could potentially nominate the leader of the free world too.

[HolmeZz]

I'm not voting for him, I just want to know why people like him, he hasn't done anything

Did that prevent you from voting for Bush?

[DaneMcCloud]

If you follow politics, I see nothing wrong with being able to eliminate some candidates at this point.

Hmm, I guess I disagree. At this point in time, I don't think it's wise to eliminate anyone from consideration. I'd prefer to know not only a particular candidate's stance on the issues, but how how they deal and respond to the pressure of being in the national media spotlight 24/7. Essentially, one blurb absolutely ruined any chance that Howard Dean *may* (and I emphasize, may) have had at winning the Dem's nomination. It's a slippery slope and I'll be curious to see how ALL of the potential candidates deal with it.

Of course, that's just one in a myriad of complexities associated with a presidential candidate, but if someone doesn't handle the media well (no matter how intelligent they may be), I think it would be difficult for those people to gain the trust and confidence of the American people at this time.

[Taco John]

And a sex offender! Believe it. Believe it. Beliiiiieeeeve it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=559kCaH1Shw



Gasp! He smokes cigarettes!

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[recxjake]

Did that prevent you from voting for Bush?

uhh, Bush was a solid Governor from Texas and had a record to back himself up on....

I'm afraid that Obama is just like Edwards from 04.... people like him, but can't trust him because he has only been in the Senate for 2 years.

[Sully]

Funny. This is almost a clone of the post last week that Bunnytdr made where he said that I couldn't be interested in the Repub's nominating process.(Re: Huckabee)

I think Recxjake has just as much right to be interested in the Dem nomination process, since they could potentially nominate the leader of the free world too.


The difference is that you have proven to be reasonable and thoughtful...

[noa]

IMO, the Democrats are excited about '08AMA because he is electable. Their last two candidates had long records of public service. Al Gore was probably one of the most qualified candidates in the history of presidential elections, and yet that didn't produce any results. I think the Democrats will try a new direction and simply go with the most electable person possible, even if everything that makes him electable is purely superficial. Of course, there will be those who argue that '08AMA isn't electable because he's black and because of his name, but time will tell. I'm not so sure that's true.

[bunnytrdr]

IMO, the Democrats are excited about '08AMA because he is electable. Their last two candidates had long records of public service. Al Gore was probably one of the most qualified candidates in the history of presidential elections, and yet that didn't produce any results. I think the Democrats will try a new direction and simply go with the most electable person possible, even if everything that makes him electable is purely superficial. Of course, there will be those who argue that '08AMA isn't electable because he's black and because of his name, but time will tell. I'm not so sure that's true.Run Obama, Run!

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