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htismaqe
01-30-2007, 08:13 AM
Yes, I'm talking to you, Believer.

We have a "no spam" policy here, and you've violated it. However, since I suspect you're intentions are something less than trying to fleece money out of our membership.

To that end, I've revoked your thread-creation capabilities on a temporary basis.

To the rest of you who can resist the urge to respond in kind with MORE SPAM, you've been warned.

BigRedChief
01-30-2007, 08:27 AM
Yes, I'm talking to you, Believer.

We have a "no spam" policy here, and you've violated it. However, since I suspect you're intentions are something less than trying to fleece money out of our membership.

To that end, I've revoked your thread-creation capabilities on a temporary basis.

To the rest of you who can resist the urge to respond in kind with MORE SPAM, you've been warned.
Nice call.:clap:

Redrum_69
01-30-2007, 08:29 AM
That was a good thing you did that....I was about to never log on to the planet again if I was to see one more of his threads...

Kraut
01-30-2007, 08:30 AM
Yes, I'm talking to you, Believer.

We have a "no spam" policy here, and you've violated it. However, since I suspect you're intentions are something less than trying to fleece money out of our membership.

To that end, I've revoked your thread-creation capabilities on a temporary basis.

To the rest of you who can resist the urge to respond in kind with MORE SPAM, you've been warned.
:clap: :clap:

Saulbadguy
01-30-2007, 08:32 AM
Does this mean I can no longer give unsolicited financial advice?

htismaqe
01-30-2007, 08:34 AM
Does this mean I can no longer give unsolicited financial advice?

Are you trying to convince them that your financial advice is the only financial advice they'll ever need? ;)

Saulbadguy
01-30-2007, 08:36 AM
Are you trying to convince them that your financial advice is the only financial advice they'll ever need? ;)
Why, yes.

boogblaster
01-30-2007, 08:37 AM
Had a visitation yesterday from the 7-day activists, came right in me house folders in hand going to save me..told them the only thing that was going to save me was, a years supply of blow-jobs..they left shortly after....

tyton75
01-30-2007, 08:37 AM
My bad.. saw this thread created right after I entered mine..

WTF is going on? Why all the bible thumpers all of a sudden? Just curious

Chief Chief
01-30-2007, 08:38 AM
Does that mean I can no longer hawk canned meat on this forum?

El Jefe
01-30-2007, 08:41 AM
You know I am a very strong Christian, but I honestly agree with you doing that. If a place doesnt want to hear Biblical stuff then that is their choice and you have to move on. I thought he was a bit to over the top on a few of his posts IMO. There is a way to get your beliefs across without being too animated or annoying.

htismaqe
01-30-2007, 08:43 AM
Why, yes.

I asked morphius, and he said to go ahead and ban you. :D

htismaqe
01-30-2007, 08:44 AM
You know I am a very strong Christian, but I honestly agree with you doing that. If a place doesnt want to hear Biblical stuff then that is their choice and you have to move on. I thought he was a bit to over the top on a few of his posts IMO. There is a way to get your beliefs across without being too animated or annoying.

I've always thought that the best way to witness to someone is to show them that you act a certain way and that you're HAPPY doing it.

Brow beating someone with rhetoric is no way to win converts...

Simply Red
01-30-2007, 08:44 AM
I'm bigga and bolda an ruffa and tuffa in otha words sucka there is no otha!

IM THE ONE AND ONLY MODERATOR!

C-Mac
01-30-2007, 08:44 AM
I feel stupid, guess I need to someone help me re-learn the definitions of advertisement and spam.....per ChiefsPlanet.

:hmmm:

RedNeckRaider
01-30-2007, 08:51 AM
This falls along the lines of politics, we have two sides that will not change the others mind. By sending that all to DC it solved the problem. If these type threads were to be moved then those who enjoy them could and not bother the main page. JMO

htismaqe
01-30-2007, 08:53 AM
I feel stupid, guess I need to someone help me re-learn the definitions of advertisement and spam.....per ChiefsPlanet.

:hmmm:

They weren't technically "advertisements" since they didn't involve receiving payment in turn for unsolicited services. However, the intention was very similar, so much so that it generated several complaints about "spam".

This is a community-driven board, just like it always has been.

StcChief
01-30-2007, 09:05 AM
:clap: Moving to DC would help/dispite the clutter...but the warning temp removal of thread creation should help.

OnTheWarpath58
01-30-2007, 09:05 AM
Thank you.

Redrum_69
01-30-2007, 09:08 AM
Believers mom is like religious spam...you learn about her at a young age, your every action with her will determine the outcome, she'll invade every personal oriface trying to make a point, and in the end you'd rather want to join Satan in eternity than spend another wasted minute reading that your going to hell anyways....

htismaqe
01-30-2007, 09:08 AM
:clap: Moving to DC would help/dispite the clutter...but the warning temp removal of thread creation should help.

Religious threads don't belong in DC, IMO.

And it's not fair to the denizens of that forum, regardless of how degenerate they might be, to subject them to that... :D

Redrum_69
01-30-2007, 09:09 AM
Oh oh...Why not create...a ...religious forum then....


I nominate Donger to be the moderator for that forum...

C-Mac
01-30-2007, 09:13 AM
I've always thought that the best way to witness to someone is to show them that you act a certain way and that you're HAPPY doing it....

This is a community-driven board, just like it always has been.


Agreed, but some will always be more mature than others doing it.
I would really hate to see the discouraging of insitefull discussions that might have a religious or biblical tie to them, because there are some who post and read those types of threads that find some enjoyment or benefit in one way or another. Personally, I dont enjoy every poop thread thats made here either, but I dont protest those that want to start those types of threads or comment in them nor do I suggest a "Poop Forum". You subject yourself only when you partake in the thread, if it bothers you just move on to the next interesting thread. It is obvious there is much discontent when anything of religious\biblical nature is posted here whether its extreme or not. We should all be careful not let the masses or extremism alter a wonderful rule of freeness of speech(or reading).

Ultra Peanut
01-30-2007, 09:14 AM
I nominate Jilly to be co-mod.

htismaqe
01-30-2007, 09:16 AM
Agreed, but some will always be more mature than others doing it.
I would really hate to see the discouraging of insitefull discussions that might have a religious or biblical tie to them, because there are some who post and read those types of threads that find some enjoyment or benefit in one way or another. Personally, I dont enjoy every poop thread thats made here either, but I dont protest those that want to start those types of threads or comment in them nor do I suggest a "Poop Forum". You subject yourself only when you partake in the thread, if it bothers you just move on to the next interesting thread. It is obvious there is much discontent when anything of religious\biblical nature is posted here whether its extreme or not. We should all be careful not let the masses or extremism alter a wonderful rule of freeness of speech(or reading).

Religious threads are not being discouraged AT ALL. Please don't walk away from this thinking that.

We have religious threads here all the time without incident. I think a line was clearly crossed here - even I thought to myself "boy that sounds like spam"...

C-Mac
01-30-2007, 09:20 AM
Religious threads are not being discouraged AT ALL. Please don't walk away from this thinking that.

We have religious threads here all the time without incident. I think a line was clearly crossed here - even I thought to myself "boy that sounds like spam"...

Perhaps I missed something then.....which thread made you conclude that?

htismaqe
01-30-2007, 09:25 AM
Perhaps I missed something then.....which thread made you conclude that?

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=157417

Smed1065
01-30-2007, 09:30 AM
I am more concerned that the site has closed all religion threads except those created by some mods and staff.

It is ok for the staff to close all but the ones they think are right?

This strikes me as to be along the same lines of the threads closed.

IMO this is not any difference except the members get to chose their choses in a thread, compared to sorry, the board is correct and you are not, discussion closed.

I could be wrong but the same theories seem to apply regardless of the person posting.

Check the threads and replies and in no way did I support any of those threads but fair is fair. IMO.

htismaqe
01-30-2007, 09:32 AM
I am more concerned that the site has closed all religion threads except those created by some mods and staff.

It is ok for the staff to close all but the ones they think are right?

This strikes me as to be along the same lines of the threads closed.

IMO this is not any difference except the members get to chose their choses in a thread, compared to sorry, the board is correct and you are not, discussion closed.

I could be wrong but the same theories seem to apply regardless of the person posting.

I can count the number of religious threads I've closed on one hand, and I don't need my thumb.

You're not being persecuted here.

Smed1065
01-30-2007, 09:34 AM
I was not concerned with me because I hated the way they were presented. Just stating my view.

I unlike others do not expect my way or the highway.

In honestly I did not count the number closed or who the thread starter was. It just seemed odd on a site that has great tolerances.

htismaqe
01-30-2007, 09:39 AM
I was not concerned with me because I hated the way they were presented. Just stating my view.

I unlike others do not expect my way or the highway.

In honestly I did not count the number closed or who the thread starter was. It just seemed odd on a site that has great tolerances.

The threads that were closed this morning fit one of two categories:

1) They were threads started by Believer, in the vein mentioned in the thread starter.

2) They were attempts at retaliation/humor/irony on the part of members who weren't happy with the existence of said threads.

C-Mac
01-30-2007, 09:39 AM
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=157417

OK I had seen that thread and I'm truly not trying to be argumentative, but to me it doesnt appear that he is solicting or directing anyone to any particular church or website. He did, in a very forward untactful way gave his opinion (whether right or wrong) on a subject to invoke a discussion among everyone. Now I didnt read the posts but just based on the thread, I just dont see it any different that many other opinionated threads except that this one is wholey religious in nature.

Cochise
01-30-2007, 09:46 AM
Good work... spam is spam, whether you are trying to influence people's buying habits, religious viewpoints, political ideology, etc.

greg63
01-30-2007, 09:48 AM
OK I had seen that thread and I'm truly not trying to be argumentative, but to me it doesnt appear that he is solicting or directing anyone to any particular church or website. He did, in a very forward untactful way gave his opinion (whether right or wrong) on a subject to invoke a discussion among everyone. Now I didnt read the posts but just based on the thread, I just dont see it any different that many other opinionated threads except that this one is wholey religious in nature.

I agree with you, however, speaking as a mod on another board; I support htismaqe's decision here. Things were getting way out of sorts and it seemed as if some action or at least some response by a mod was warranted here. JMHO

jspchief
01-30-2007, 09:55 AM
I pegged this clown a troll in the first week that he arrived.

You don't arrive spouting highly devisive subject matter in a venue that is likely to have a lot of people that do not want to hear it. He came in starting fires and spilling gas before he had even established himself in this BB community.

Has anyone ventured that it's Tom Cash yet?

Smed1065
01-30-2007, 09:57 AM
I agree with you, however, speaking as a mod on another board; I support htismaqe's decision here. Things were getting way out of sorts and it seemed as if some action or at least some response by a mod was warranted here. JMHO

I agree as well but if you close threads, IMO it should be all threads related to the subject.

Not just the ones they started.

I have been wrong before. heck, I even added to the BS, unfortunately!

greg63
01-30-2007, 09:58 AM
I pegged this clown a troll in the first week that he arrived.

You don't arrive spouting highly devisive subject matter in a venue that is likely to have a lot of people that do not want to hear it. He came in starting fires and spilling gas before he had even established himself in this BB community.

Has anyone ventured that it's - ahem, shut your mouth - yet?

I had not thought of that.

greg63
01-30-2007, 10:00 AM
I agree as well but if you close threads, IMO it should be all threads related to the subject.

Not just the ones they started.

I have been wrong before. heck, I even added to the BS, unfortunately!

Speaking as one who has been there and done that; it is easy to allow oneself to get caught up in all the hoopla.

Cochise
01-30-2007, 10:05 AM
I pegged this clown a troll in the first week that he arrived.

You don't arrive spouting highly devisive subject matter in a venue that is likely to have a lot of people that do not want to hear it. He came in starting fires and spilling gas before he had even established himself in this BB community.

Has anyone ventured that it's - ahem, shut your mouth - yet?

I thought from his first thread that it absolutely had to be ComTash. There are two other usernames active that I suspect.

But, Phil said the other day that if it was ComTash then he was going way out of his way to make it appear he was posting from KC, and that he didn't think ComTash was technically proficient enough to do that.

The style is just impeccable though...

Dartgod
01-30-2007, 10:12 AM
Has anyone ventured that it's - ahem, shut your mouth - yet?
I did on the first day, but I no longer believe it is him.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=3671223&postcount=281

htismaqe
01-30-2007, 10:16 AM
I agree as well but if you close threads, IMO it should be all threads related to the subject.

Not just the ones they started.

I have been wrong before. heck, I even added to the BS, unfortunately!

We don't close religious threads, there's plenty of reason to discuss stuff like that.

These threads weren't closed because they were religious in nature, they were closed because they were solicitous in nature.

htismaqe
01-30-2007, 10:16 AM
FYI, I have thought since Believer arrived that it was a FEMALE.

My investigation into the user since all of this happened tells me my original hunch was correct.

C-Mac
01-30-2007, 10:21 AM
I agree with you, however, speaking as a mod on another board; I support htismaqe's decision here. Things were getting way out of sorts and it seemed as if some action or at least some response by a mod was warranted here. JMHO

Oh I agree that peace and order needs to be controlled by the mods and I'm not debating that. I just was trying to keep everyone with a balanced view on things. Perhaps if it was posted that his posts were removed for causing said issues instead of saying that he was banned because he was advertising and\or spamming, I wouldnt have felt compelled to comment.

Wile_E_Coyote
01-30-2007, 10:34 AM
Had a visitation yesterday from the 7-day activists, came right in me house folders in hand going to save me..told them the only thing that was going to save me was, a years supply of blow-jobs..they left shortly after....

I think they're vegetarian. You could have atleast been kind enough to tell them to suck your nuts

Groves
01-30-2007, 10:35 AM
Here's a question that might even deserve a poll.

How old do you think Believer is?

At times I think middle aged, at times I think underaged.

Dartgod
01-30-2007, 10:36 AM
FYI, I have thought since Believer arrived that it was a FEMALE.

My investigation into the user since all of this happened tells me my original hunch was correct.
We're going to need pics of the boo-bays to confirm.






Or maybe not...

C-Mac
01-30-2007, 10:38 AM
Good work... spam is spam, whether you are trying to influence people's buying habits, religious viewpoints, political ideology, etc.


....or influence people where to buy the best ethnic foods.
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=157478
....or influence people where to buy the best ice cream
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=157480

Come on Cochise, spam is not applicable to the real issue here. Its more of the others disdain and then retaliation by making more worthless threads, that is the problem.

patteeu
01-30-2007, 10:39 AM
This falls along the lines of politics, we have two sides that will not change the others mind. By sending that all to DC it solved the problem. If these type threads were to be moved then those who enjoy them could and not bother the main page. JMO

Despite popular misconception, DC isn't supposed to be a garbage bin where bad threads can be sent to get them out of sight.

Phobia
01-30-2007, 10:42 AM
FYI, I have thought since Believer arrived that it was a FEMALE.

My investigation into the user since all of this happened tells me my original hunch was correct.
You know - I had that impression in the very beginning and had forgotten all about it until reading your post.

htismaqe
01-30-2007, 10:51 AM
....or influence people where to buy the best ethnic foods.
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=157478
....or influence people where to buy the best ice cream
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=157480

Come on Cochise, spam is not applicable to the real issue here. Its more of the others disdain and then retaliation by making more worthless threads, that is the problem.

A solicitation for advice (the two threads you noted) is not spam.

What Believer posted was an ADMONITION to essentially "repent or be damned".

Like I said before, when I first read the post I instantly though "spam" - the membership's disdain only further cemented that.

Redrum_69
01-30-2007, 10:57 AM
FYI, I have thought since Believer arrived that it was a FEMALE.

My investigation into the user since all of this happened tells me my original hunch was correct.



Is she A VIRGIN?

Maybe she had sex and felt guilty because shes forever damned for breaking the seal before marriage....

RedNeckRaider
01-30-2007, 10:58 AM
Despite popular misconception, DC isn't supposed to be a garbage bin where bad threads can be sent to get them out of sight.
That was not what I was saying, some people like to talk politics but it caused problems on the main page. I feel that talking about personal beliefs is along the same lines. People get fired up over some topics so why not seperate them so those who choose to can get after it, and those who don't are not bothered by it.

Mr. Laz
01-30-2007, 11:00 AM
believer is a troll not a spammer IMO


Trolling - posting threads to get attention and/or cause trouble without a significant contribultion to the overall BBS

Spamming - posting with the intention of gaining something financially etc.

htismaqe
01-30-2007, 11:00 AM
That was not what I was saying, some people like to talk politics but it caused problems on the main page. I feel that talking about personal beliefs is along the same lines. People get fired up over some topics so why not seperate them so those who choose to can get after it, and those who don't are not bothered by it.

1) We've already got too many forums.

2) Religious threads usually don't inspire THIS much venom. This was about the METHOD, not the message.

Bill Parcells
01-30-2007, 11:01 AM
FYI, I have thought since Believer arrived that it was a FEMALE.

My investigation into the user since all of this happened tells me my original hunch was correct.
Thank you for your hard work :)

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Dartgod
01-30-2007, 11:07 AM
I would catagorize his posts as not so much spam as it it trolling.

In Internet terminology, a troll is a person who enters an established community such as an online discussion forum and intentionally tries to cause disruption, often in the form of posting messages that are inflammatory, insulting, or off-topic, with the intent of provoking a reaction from others.


EDIT: Damn you Laz, you beat me by this >< much.

:banghead:

Mr. Laz
01-30-2007, 11:08 AM
I would catagorize his posts as not so much spam as it it trolling.

In Internet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet) terminology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminology), a troll is a person who enters an established community such as an online discussion forum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_forum) and intentionally tries to cause disruption, often in the form of posting messages that are inflammatory, insulting, or off-topic, with the intent of provoking a reaction from others.
repost :p

RedNeckRaider
01-30-2007, 11:08 AM
1) We've already got too many forums.

2) Religious threads usually don't inspire THIS much venom. This was about the METHOD, not the message.
I feel you handled it fine, I was just telling the guy that I didn't think the DC was a trash bin. I could never be a mod because of my heat of the moment reaction mentality. I would have banned the idiot only to calm down later and think I should have handled it differently. Although those two topics do run hand in hand as far as pissing people off.

JazzzLovr
01-30-2007, 11:11 AM
I feel you handled it fine, I was just telling the guy that I didn't think the DC was a trash bin. I could never be a mod because of my heat of the moment reaction mentality.

You?

Really?



;)

RedNeckRaider
01-30-2007, 11:15 AM
You?

Really?



;)
Shocking huh!

Logical
01-30-2007, 11:22 AM
Yes, I'm talking to you, Believer.

We have a "no spam" policy here, and you've violated it. However, since I suspect you're intentions are something less than trying to fleece money out of our membership.

To that end, I've revoked your thread-creation capabilities on a temporary basis.

To the rest of you who can resist the urge to respond in kind with MORE SPAM, you've been warned.

No problem and thank you.

Calcountry
01-30-2007, 11:23 AM
That was a good thing you did that....I was about to never log on to the planet again if I was to see one more of his threads...Your momma.

Logical
01-30-2007, 11:25 AM
FYI, I have thought since Believer arrived that it was a FEMALE.

My investigation into the user since all of this happened tells me my original hunch was correct.

In all honesty, is that relevant, what did I miss?

El Jefe
01-30-2007, 11:26 AM
C-Mac, I agree, I would like to pursue some Theological discussions. If there was a place we could do it and not be considered "spamming". Just my two cents.

htismaqe
01-30-2007, 11:27 AM
In all honesty, is that relevant, what did I miss?

It's only relevant due to the speculation that Believer was ComTash. SHE obviously isn't. ;)

htismaqe
01-30-2007, 11:28 AM
C-Mac, I agree, I would like to pursue some Theological discussions. If there was a place we could do it and not be considered "spamming". Just my two cents.

You're perfectly capable of having theological discussion right here in the Lounge.

Dave Lane
01-30-2007, 11:32 AM
:thumb:

Dave

Calcountry
01-30-2007, 11:33 AM
I am fine with this as long as you remain unbiased, and stop all the threads that deliberately debase and bash the Lord Jesus Christ on a rather routine basis in this place.

Dave Lane
01-30-2007, 11:34 AM
You're perfectly capable of having theological discussion right here in the Lounge.


Parker why not a religious sub forum or throw this stuff in DC? I don't really want a repeat of yesterday in the main forum...

My .02

Dave

luv
01-30-2007, 11:36 AM
FYI, I have thought since Believer arrived that it was a FEMALE.

My investigation into the user since all of this happened tells me my original hunch was correct.
It wasn't me. I may be annoying, but I'm not that annoying.

jspchief
01-30-2007, 11:37 AM
Pretty much agre with the "troll, not spam" posts.

It's not what he's selling... it's that he creates a shitstorm by trying to sell it here.

BIG_DADDY
01-30-2007, 11:38 AM
We have so many stupid threads then we get a real cool one like the satan thread which really had potential and clank it gets locked up.

htismaqe
01-30-2007, 11:39 AM
Parker why not a religious sub forum or throw this stuff in DC? I don't really want a repeat of yesterday in the main forum...

My .02

Dave

Already covered that...

htismaqe
01-30-2007, 11:40 AM
I am fine with this as long as you remain unbiased, and stop all the threads that deliberately debase and bash the Lord Jesus Christ on a rather routine basis in this place.

Feel free to bring them to our attention...

C-Mac
01-30-2007, 11:44 AM
A solicitation for advice (the two threads you noted) is not spam.

What Believer posted was an ADMONITION to essentially "repent or be damned".

Like I said before, when I first read the post I instantly though "spam" - the membership's disdain only further cemented that.

The reaction was from his\her in your face untactful opinion that was religiously extreme. Look at many of the posts here, they dont say move the spam to DC, they say move religion to DC.
Dont kid yourself, I could get the same reaction started if I solicited information about religion but I do understand what your trying to say. I guess we basically are debating words because in my opinion I dont think his\her opinion thread qualify's as spam or soliciting but we both agree that something needed to be done to curb all the reaction threads. As Dartgod mentioned its maybe a little more troll like than anything but it was seemingly over one thread. I know its hard to keep a balanced view sometimes when so many quickly jump to one side of the scale. You did the right thing, just used the wrong application IMO.

Calcountry
01-30-2007, 11:46 AM
Feel free to bring them to our attention...Be assured that I will going forward.

It will be very interesting to see the response, "Sand in your vagina".

"Quite whining like a little bitch" etc. no doubt.

RedNeckRaider
01-30-2007, 11:47 AM
We have so many stupid threads then we get a real cool one like the satan thread which really had potential and clank it gets locked up.
This would a interesting site if you were a mod! most likely x rated but interesting none the less.

Calcountry
01-30-2007, 11:47 AM
The reaction was from his\her in your face untactful opinion that was religiously extreme. Look at many of the posts here, they dont say move the spam to DC, they say move religion to DC.
Dont kid yourself, I could get the same reaction started if I solicited information about religion but I do understand what your trying to say. I guess we basically are debating words because in my opinion I dont think his\her opinion thread qualify's as spam or soliciting but we both agree that something needed to be done to curb all the reaction threads. As Dartgod mentioned its maybe a little more troll like than anything but it was seemingly over one thread. I know its hard to keep a balanced view sometimes when so many quickly jump to one side of the scale. You did the right thing, just used the wrong application IMO.No more "in your face" than all of the queer threads that have been posted here over the years.

htismaqe
01-30-2007, 11:48 AM
The reaction was from his\her in your face untactful opinion that was religiously extreme. Look at many of the posts here, they dont say move the spam to DC, they say move religion to DC.
Dont kid yourself, I could get the same reaction started if I solicited information about religion but I do understand what your trying to say. I guess we basically are debating words because in my opinion I dont think his\her opinion thread qualify's as spam or soliciting but we both agree that something needed to be done to curb all the reaction threads. As Dartgod mentioned its maybe a little more troll like than anything but it was seemingly over one thread. I know its hard to keep a balanced view sometimes when so many quickly jump to one side of the scale. You did the right thing, just used the wrong application IMO.

It really doesn't matter if it's classified as trolling or spamming, because the religious content of the post wasn't the real issue.

I decided to take action based on the METHOD, not the message.

luv
01-30-2007, 11:49 AM
The reaction was from his\her in your face untactful opinion that was religiously extreme. Look at many of the posts here, they dont say move the spam to DC, they say move religion to DC.
Dont kid yourself, I could get the same reaction started if I solicited information about religion but I do understand what your trying to say. I guess we basically are debating words because in my opinion I dont think his\her opinion thread qualify's as spam or soliciting but we both agree that something needed to be done to curb all the reaction threads. As Dartgod mentioned its maybe a little more troll like than anything but it was seemingly over one thread. I know its hard to keep a balanced view sometimes when so many quickly jump to one side of the scale. You did the right thing, just used the wrong application IMO.
His first thread had nothing to do with religion in the title. Total nuthook. That tends to piss people off to begin with. He started a second thread, From one Christian to another, to tell us all that, due to the reaction to his first thread, we needed to be ashamed of ourselves. He started his own reaction thread. People just followed suit.

htismaqe
01-30-2007, 11:50 AM
No more "in your face" than all of the queer threads that have been posted here over the years.

I don't recall any threads in the past admonishing us to feel ashamed because we're not queer...

keg in kc
01-30-2007, 11:58 AM
I don't recall any threads in the past admonishing us to feel ashamed because we're not queer...I can imagine the response someone would get if they came on here and posted in the same manner as "Believer" but did it gay.

Yeah, that would go over like a turd in a punch bowl...

I'm not sure what the problem is. We shouldn't punish this troll because he or she was trolling, but with a Christian theme? That makes it okay?

ummkay.

boogblaster
01-30-2007, 12:00 PM
...queer is a five-letter word you know...

Redrum_69
01-30-2007, 12:02 PM
htismaqe is the debil


persecuting christianity openly....


i feel threatened now

Calcountry
01-30-2007, 12:03 PM
I don't recall any threads in the past admonishing us to feel ashamed because we're not queer...Tell me, why again do people have to open the threads?

This is what was told to me early on at this place. Quit bitching, grow a pair, and if it bothers you, don't open the threads.

All the Jesus haters couldn't resist though. They delight in them until they realized they couldn't deter, and only encouraged him/her.

Sounds like a double standard to me.

Just put him/her on iggy like I did Logical and all of his arrogant nonsense. It worked for me.

crazycoffey
01-30-2007, 12:04 PM
see we are still talking about believer.

keg in kc
01-30-2007, 12:04 PM
see we are still talking about believer.Good point.

Next thread.

Calcountry
01-30-2007, 12:05 PM
I can imagine the response someone would get if they came on here and posted in the same manner as "Believer" but did it gay.

Yeah, that would go over like a turd in a punch bowl...

I'm not sure what the problem is. We shouldn't punish this troll because he or she was trolling, but with a Christian theme? That makes it okay?

ummkay.No, he shouldn't have started all the threads, but saved his/her powder for within threads after they established relationships with people on the board. So although I agree with the thread starting ban, I have pause with the anti religious spirit that has been increasingly hostile here of late.

Redrum_69
01-30-2007, 12:07 PM
see we are still talking about believer.



and to think....that it took Jesus three days before he was resurrected in fulfillment of the scriptures...

crazycoffey
01-30-2007, 12:11 PM
and to think....that it took Jesus three days before he was resurrected in fulfillment of the scriptures...


I'm laughing as I say this, "shuuutttttt uppppp"

Dartgod
01-30-2007, 12:11 PM
All the Jesus haters couldn't resist though..
That's a bit over the top isn't it? All one has to do is look at whatever prayer request is stickied to realize you are way off base.


Jesus Haters....lol...

Dartgod
01-30-2007, 12:13 PM
I am fine with this as long as you remain unbiased, and stop all the threads that deliberately debase and bash the Lord Jesus Christ on a rather routine basis in this place.Surely you have links to "all these threads"?

I'm sure you can find blasphemous post in many threads here, but I don't recall many that are started to deliberately bash Jesus.

Exaggerating to prove a point only weakens that which you are trying to prove.

C-Mac
01-30-2007, 12:13 PM
It really doesn't matter if it's classified as trolling or spamming, because the religious content of the post wasn't the real issue.

I decided to take action based on the METHOD, not the message.

It does matter to some people because you can easily set yourself up to opening up many a can of worms. Again, you made the right decision but you let it appear that you decision was based on the "others reactions" not to the "method" of the original thread. If so should you not have deleted the original thread 3 days ago? Anyway it probably appears that I'm confronting you but I'm really not. I'm just standing back and attempting to view things fairly and without emotion and trying to set a basis for you to work from when this type of issue pops up again.

htismaqe
01-30-2007, 12:13 PM
No, he shouldn't have started all the threads, but saved his/her powder for within threads after they established relationships with people on the board. So although I agree with the thread starting ban, I have pause with the anti religious spirit that has been increasingly hostile here of late.

If the spirit here is that "hostile" towards your religion, why not visit another site or just ignore it altogether? Isn't that what you suggested in your previous post?

Redrum_69
01-30-2007, 12:16 PM
Are we allowed to pray on the board?


/pray

htismaqe
01-30-2007, 12:18 PM
It does matter to some people because you can easily set yourself up to opening up many a can of worms. Again, you made the right decision but you let it appear that you decision was based on the "others reactions" not to the "method" of the original thread. If so should you not have deleted the original thread 3 days ago? Anyway it probably appears that I'm confronting you but I'm really not. I'm just standing back and attempting to view things fairly and without emotion and trying to set a basis for you to work from when this type of issue pops up again.

I only said on several occasions that I had MY OWN THOUGHTS and they were merely CEMENTED by other's reactions. I don't know how much more clear I could have made it.

And I didn't NOTICE the original thread three days ago. I only noticed it because of the number of ridiculous "counter"-threads that started showing up.

Calcountry
01-30-2007, 12:18 PM
If the spirit here is that "hostile" towards your religion, why not visit another site or just ignore it altogether? Isn't that what you suggested in your previous post?fair enough.

htismaqe
01-30-2007, 12:19 PM
.
That's a bit over the top isn't it? All one has to do is look at whatever prayer request is stickied to realize you are way off base.


Jesus Haters....lol...

I was thinking the same thing.

Bowser
01-30-2007, 12:20 PM
Believer gave the impression of suffering from never-wrongitis and "holier than thou" (pun intended). Believer firmly believes that what he says and thinks is absolutely correct, and those who would disagree need to be educated, as do most religious zealots. That's fine, all sorts of people pull the exact same thing with all kinds of varying subjects here. It's part of what makes ChiefsPlanet so entertaining.

That being said, I think he got his feelings hurt when people starting flipping him shit over those awful Christian videos. He took it personally, and was determined to make a point. When someone goes out of their way to make the same point over and over and over with the exact same threads over and over and over, some sort of action should probably be taken. Htismaqe did it right by not banning him, just telling him to get a grip.

I understand the point C-Mac is trying to make, and agree, but I don't believe that this is some type of persecution against all users. Gochiefs used to pull the same crap in his more petulant days, and got the same thing.

Now, I've typed all of this, and watch - Believer is another one of Kotter's aliases.

Smed1065
01-30-2007, 12:23 PM
Feel free to bring them to our attention...

Thank you for the PM reply and answering my questions!

I was concerned with the results earlier.


:hmmm:

Ultra Peanut
01-30-2007, 12:24 PM
How the bloody **** is this (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=157557) thread religious?

Is Tony Dungy someone's Lord and Savior?

Woodrow Call
01-30-2007, 12:30 PM
I love the offseason :banghead:

Bowser
01-30-2007, 12:32 PM
How the bloody **** is this (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=157557) thread religious?

Is Tony Dungy someone's Lord and Savior?

TEH POWER OF SMED COMPELS YOU!

Smed1065
01-30-2007, 12:36 PM
TEH POWER OF SMED COMPELS YOU!

Hum, guess I dosed off.

C-Mac
01-30-2007, 12:36 PM
I only said on several occasions that I had MY OWN THOUGHTS and they were merely CEMENTED by other's reactions. I don't know how much more clear I could have made it.

And I didn't NOTICE the original thread three days ago. I only noticed it because of the number of ridiculous "counter"-threads that started showing up.

Along with pulling it because of others reactions, you also said that it was pulled due to spamming, you said it pulled because it was soliciting, you compared it to trolling, and it was pulled because of the method. Perhaps thats why it isnt a clear basis.....for at least me. Sorry to get your feathers ruffled up and dont want any hard feelings over this but maybe later when you can be a little more subjective you will understand what I was simply trying to communicate to you.

Sully
01-30-2007, 12:58 PM
Does someone have a list of the "Jesus-haters?"
I'm curious if I made the list.

chop
01-30-2007, 01:03 PM
I have pause with the anti religious spirit that has been increasingly hostile here of late.


I agree. There can be all kinds of posts talking about multiple subjects but if someone brings up religion then posters come out of the woodwork to attack their faith.

Calcountry
01-30-2007, 01:06 PM
Does someone have a list of the "Jesus-haters?"
I'm curious if I made the list.That depends, do you hate Jesus?

luv
01-30-2007, 01:06 PM
I agree. There can be all kinds of posts talking about multiple subjects but if someone brings up religion then posters come out of the woodwork to attack their faith.
I think it's because it's an easy mark. Making fun of what people hold dear to themselves, and it makes for a much more dramatic confrontation.

RedNeckRaider
01-30-2007, 01:06 PM
I agree. There can be all kinds of posts talking about multiple subjects but if someone brings up religion then posters come out of the woodwork to attack their faith.
I have hung out here for several years and I would wager there are more here with faith than there are bashers.

Calcountry
01-30-2007, 01:10 PM
I have hung out here for several years and I would wager there are more here with faith than there are bashers.I would agree with this, but I am not going to sit idly by anymore and take it, when religeous bigotry rears its ugly head. Those of you out there, know who you are.

Calcountry
01-30-2007, 01:11 PM
Of course, you are free to ask for my prayers the next time you are in some trouble too.

Bowser
01-30-2007, 01:12 PM
I would agree with this, but I am not going to sit idly by anymore and take it, when religeous bigotry rears its ugly head. Those of you out there, know who you are.

Jesus was a liberal.

:Poke:

chop
01-30-2007, 01:14 PM
I have hung out here for several years and I would wager there are more here with faith than there are bashers.


I'm not so sure I agree with that statement any more. I would have agreed with you 2-3 years ago but lately there has been so many attacks against anyone that posts a religious thread I find it hard to believe that it is the case any more.

crazycoffey
01-30-2007, 01:15 PM
funny how the lord works, or karma for some of you (Simplex) Since we are still talking about Believer, I thought I would put part of a daily email I get.

It's just some daily tidbits of inspiration, whatever you want to chalk it up to. Anywho;



Friends first
by John Fischer


The Great Commission is all about making friends. Now I know Jesus said, “Therefore, go and make disciples …” (Matthew 28:19 NLT), but Jesus himself showed that you can’t make a disciple until you first make a friend. “I no longer call you slaves, because a master doesn’t confide in his slaves. Now you are my friends, since I have told you everything the Father told me.” (John 15:15 NLT)


So what Christians have called “witnessing” for some time really should be more like building relationships. It’s what you do over the long haul of a relationship that counts so much more than door-to-door canvassing of the neighborhood.


or in this case, spamming a internet board.







and now back to our regular daily BS postings. Let's see what is going on in the prision bathrooms, oh no - not that again......

Dartgod
01-30-2007, 01:16 PM
I agree. There can be all kinds of posts talking about multiple subjects but if someone brings up religion then posters come out of the woodwork to attack their faith.
More bullshit.

RedNeckRaider
01-30-2007, 01:19 PM
I'm not so sure I agree with that statement any more. I would have agreed with you 2-3 years ago but lately there has been so many attacks against anyone that posts a religious thread I find it hard to believe that it is the case any more.
Well you are one of a handful who have been here longer than me, that and I take long breaks from the internet so you may be right...I hope not.

Calcountry
01-30-2007, 01:30 PM
Jesus was a liberal.

:Poke:Really? I thought he was Bi, partisan that is.

Reerun_KC
01-30-2007, 01:38 PM
I would agree with this, but I am not going to sit idly by anymore and take it, when religeous bigotry rears its ugly head. Those of you out there, know who you are.


Am I on that list?

When I am in church sunday morning, I will ask for forgiveness.

Calcountry
01-30-2007, 01:45 PM
Am I on that list?

When I am in church sunday morning, I will ask for forgiveness.There is no list, neither will I go digging to find dirt, but I am merely stating that I will not allow it to go unchecked.

Do you go to church? I don't even know you so I have no way of knowing whether or not your statment was meant in jest or you are serious.

Do you need prayer? Ask one of the mods to sticky your request.

Reerun_KC
01-30-2007, 02:10 PM
There is no list, neither will I go digging to find dirt, but I am merely stating that I will not allow it to go unchecked.

Do you go to church? I don't even know you so I have no way of knowing whether or not your statment was meant in jest or you are serious.

Do you need prayer? Ask one of the mods to sticky your request.

yes I go to church, but I am also a normal human with faults.

I do skip church for Chiefs football on sundays..


Need Prayer? Sure, I have a Commerical Pilots Check ride coming up soon and need all the help I can get.

Logical
01-30-2007, 02:19 PM
Tell me, why again do people have to open the threads?

This is what was told to me early on at this place. Quit bitching, grow a pair, and if it bothers you, don't open the threads.

All the Jesus haters couldn't resist though. They delight in them until they realized they couldn't deter, and only encouraged him/her.

Sounds like a double standard to me.

Just put him/her on iggy like I did Logical and all of his arrogant nonsense. It worked for me.
How sad, he is not even aware I have been condemning his racist position on Barrack Obama.

Dartgod
01-30-2007, 02:23 PM
How sad, he is not even aware I have been condemning his racist position on Barrack Obama.
I'm quoting this so he will now. :D

Logical
01-30-2007, 02:23 PM
It's only relevant due to the speculation that Believer was ComTash. SHE obviously isn't. ;)

Oh I see, actually I am pretty sure he is SLQ in his latest incarnation. Though if he is, he has learned to hide it a little better.

Short Leash Hootie
01-30-2007, 02:30 PM
when the **** am I going to get my thread creation abilities back?

I guess making Chiefs threads is 'spamming' the board, too!

Redrum_69
01-30-2007, 02:42 PM
when the **** am I going to get my thread creation abilities back?

I guess making Chiefs threads is 'spamming' the board, too!



ABout the time that Damon Huard is inducted into the hall of fame

Right next to the statue of Trent Green...and Carl Peterson

Logical
01-30-2007, 02:43 PM
when the **** am I going to get my thread creation abilities back?

I guess making Chiefs threads is 'spamming' the board, too!

I thought you had only lost them on game days.

Short Leash Hootie
01-30-2007, 02:43 PM
Right next to the statue of Trent Green...and Carl Peterson
What does that even mean?

Redrum_69
01-30-2007, 02:46 PM
What does that even mean?



Meaning that Green and Carl peterson will be inducted into the hall of fame..way before Huard will be...Since Green is going to lead the Chiefs to the super bowl next year..and Carl Peterson then retires...and then they make a bronze status of both players at Canton....

and all the while..damon huard will be working at foot locker at the mall of the great plains

htismaqe
01-30-2007, 03:00 PM
Along with pulling it because of others reactions, you also said that it was pulled due to spamming, you said it pulled because it was soliciting, you compared it to trolling, and it was pulled because of the method. Perhaps thats why it isnt a clear basis.....for at least me. Sorry to get your feathers ruffled up and dont want any hard feelings over this but maybe later when you can be a little more subjective you will understand what I was simply trying to communicate to you.

Spamming, trolling, whatever.

The point is that the thread was made with one intention - to tell people that they either need to think like Believer or be ashamed of themselves.

It resembles spam in that the poster was attempt to "sell" their belief system without being asked by anyone here if they wanted it.

It resembles trolling in that the poster was obviously trying to incite rather than inform.

Regardless of whether it was spam or trolling, we all know what the purpose was.

There's no hard feelings here on my part, but you need to understand that this has absolutely nothing to do with religion other than that happened to be the topic of the offending thread.

htismaqe
01-30-2007, 03:01 PM
How the bloody **** is this (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=157557) thread religious?

Is Tony Dungy someone's Lord and Savior?

Sorry, I just felt like being a bigot.

htismaqe
01-30-2007, 03:01 PM
when the **** am I going to get my thread creation abilities back?

I guess making Chiefs threads is 'spamming' the board, too!

Nobody is allowed to touch your account. You said you were sick of people messing with it, so it's strictly hands-off from now on.

htismaqe
01-30-2007, 03:02 PM
Oh I see, actually I am pretty sure he is SLQ in his latest incarnation. Though if he is, he has learned to hide it a little better.

SLQ has been banned.

Calcountry
01-30-2007, 03:21 PM
yes I go to church, but I am also a normal human with faults.

I do skip church for Chiefs football on sundays..


Need Prayer? Sure, I have a Commerical Pilots Check ride coming up soon and need all the help I can get.No doubt about that friend, For all have sinned and come short of the Glory of God.

As per mentioned previously, I have a problem with bigotry. I mean this sincerely, could you pray for me on this subject.

Logical
01-30-2007, 03:22 PM
SLQ has been banned.ROFL

Never ending task, for you guys.

Tribal Warfare
01-30-2007, 03:43 PM
Parker why not a religious sub forum or throw this stuff in DC? I don't really want a repeat of yesterday in the main forum...

My .02

Dave


IMO, religous discussions should be relegated to the D.C. forum

HMc
01-30-2007, 04:30 PM
I'm not so sure I agree with that statement any more. I would have agreed with you 2-3 years ago but lately there has been so many attacks against anyone that posts a religious thread I find it hard to believe that it is the case any more.

You mean like you calling me "ignorant" when i did just that?

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=157506&page=1&pp=15

Extra Point
01-30-2007, 05:28 PM
IMO, religous discussions should be relegated to the D.C. forum

No, No. Gotta have separation between church and state. It's good entertainment for a few days, then back to poop threads, the word association game, then the draft.

Ebolapox
01-30-2007, 05:35 PM
Has anyone ventured that it's - ahem, shut your mouth - yet?

shaft?!?

<img src="http://aalbc.com/reviews/images/shaft.1.jpg">

you DAMN right :spock:

Ultra Peanut
01-30-2007, 05:37 PM
The Believer Backers are here to save the day!

(I bet it's bunnytrdr.)

Ebolapox
01-30-2007, 05:38 PM
It's only relevant due to the speculation that Believer was ComTash. SHE obviously isn't. ;)

wait... no, I got this one... is it ms. psi(to the)cosis?

Ultra Peanut
01-30-2007, 05:38 PM
Sorry, I just felt like being a bigot.Cool. I'll shoot you a few Martin Luther King Jr. Day threads via PM.

Sully
01-30-2007, 05:52 PM
I find it funny that a poster that has become one of the more hateful, spiteful posters on here is going to now carry the flag for "persecuted" Christianity.

C-Mac
01-30-2007, 05:54 PM
So what Christians have called “witnessing” for some time really should be more like building relationships. It’s what you do over the long haul of a relationship that counts so much more than door-to-door canvassing of the neighborhood.
or in this case, spamming a internet board......

Those darn apostles just didnt get it.....
"And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have showed you, and have taught you publicly, and from house to house" -Acts 20:20

mississippichiefan
01-30-2007, 06:00 PM
Not here to fight with anyone or argue on and on and I don't know the whole story of Believer but does this mean that we cannot express our faith on here when people attack Christainity . I come here to learn Chiefs news as I have going back to the Star bulletin board . But I when I see someone attacking Jesus Christ and the Bible then I must respond .
I have seen all kinds of things talked about on here and topics discussed that were not about football and now I see religion being censored . Am I misunderstanding whats going on here ? Is this just personal against Believer or against religion ? I hope I am misunderstanding because I do enjoy this board and have been a faithful Chief fan since 1969 .

Thig Lyfe
01-30-2007, 06:03 PM
Am I misunderstanding whats going on here ? Is this just personal against Believer or against religion ?

Yes, you are. This is 100% because of Believer's personal behavior.

For the last time, it's not the MESSAGE, it's the METHOD.

Believer couldn't seem to grasp that.

mississippichiefan
01-30-2007, 06:09 PM
Thanks I believe that was big enough even for a 51 year old man with less than perfect vision to read .

Sully
01-30-2007, 06:16 PM
Not here to fight with anyone or argue on and on and I don't know the whole story of Believer but does this mean that we cannot express our faith on here when people attack Christainity . I come here to learn Chiefs news as I have going back to the Star bulletin board . But I when I see someone attacking Jesus Christ and the Bible then I must respond .
I have seen all kinds of things talked about on here and topics discussed that were not about football and now I see religion being censored . Am I misunderstanding whats going on here ? Is this just personal against Believer or against religion ? I hope I am misunderstanding because I do enjoy this board and have been a faithful Chief fan since 1969 .


My guess is that most on this board, especially those who are not Christian, would welcome more debate and discussion regarding the merits and non-merits of religion.
However, when a person with nothing but a victim mentality posts multiple threads on the same exact subject, and then goes on to not only denigrate non-Christians, but also those Christians who worship differently than him, then the "message" will NEVER be recieved by anyone other than those who are of like mind. In which case, he gets the same enjoyment out of it as sitting home and masturbating.

Most people's preference is to not hear about the masturbating.

Calcountry
01-30-2007, 06:55 PM
My guess is that most on this board, especially those who are not Christian, would welcome more debate and discussion regarding the merits and non-merits of religion.
However, when a person with nothing but a victim mentality posts multiple threads on the same exact subject, and then goes on to not only denigrate non-Christians, but also those Christians who worship differently than him, then the "message" will NEVER be recieved by anyone other than those who are of like mind. In which case, he gets the same enjoyment out of it as sitting home and masturbating.

Most people's preference is to not hear about the masturbating.I honestly have not read all of his spam, and if he did all of the above, rightfully should have his/her posting privileges yanked.

Calcountry
01-30-2007, 06:57 PM
Not here to fight with anyone or argue on and on and I don't know the whole story of Believer but does this mean that we cannot express our faith on here when people attack Christainity . I come here to learn Chiefs news as I have going back to the Star bulletin board . But I when I see someone attacking Jesus Christ and the Bible then I must respond .
I have seen all kinds of things talked about on here and topics discussed that were not about football and now I see religion being censored . Am I misunderstanding whats going on here ? Is this just personal against Believer or against religion ? I hope I am misunderstanding because I do enjoy this board and have been a faithful Chief fan since 1969 .Wow, joined in 04 with a little more than a hundred posts and you really have responded.

Calcountry
01-30-2007, 06:59 PM
The Believer Backers are here to save the day!

(I bet it's bunnytrdr.)What?

Believer
01-30-2007, 07:13 PM
Yes, I'm talking to you, Believer.

We have a "no spam" policy here, and you've violated it. However, since I suspect you're intentions are something less than trying to fleece money out of our membership.

To that end, I've revoked your thread-creation capabilities on a temporary basis.

To the rest of you who can resist the urge to respond in kind with MORE SPAM, you've been warned.

Jesus Christ is Lord and Savior. And nothing changes that.

Frazod
01-30-2007, 07:20 PM
What a perfect thread for my religion/masturbation theory. I really should copyright this. :)

Religion is like masturbation. If it makes you feel good, then by all means, partake. But keep it to yourself, and spare me the details. And try not to get any on me.

Bowser
01-30-2007, 07:30 PM
Jesus Christ is Lord and Savior. And nothing changes that.

That's the spirit! Don't let these heathens bring you down!

If Christ is lord, then what does that make God? Unappreciated?

Believer
01-30-2007, 07:35 PM
What a perfect thread for my religion/masturbation theory. I really should copyright this. :)

Religion is like masturbation. If it makes you feel good, then by all means, partake. But keep it to yourself, and spare me the details. And try not to get any on me.

While I am sure you have been very successful going around the country giving seminars on your expertise on the masturbation issue, I would just like to point out that there is a big difference between man made "religion" and a belief in Jesus Christ. It was the "religious" who most fought Jesus was He was here. Religion is about ritual, about putting your time in at church on sunday, about trying to be good enough instead of cultivating a relationship.

Bowser
01-30-2007, 07:39 PM
While I am sure you have been very successful going around the country giving seminars on your expertise on the masturbation issue, I would just like to point out that there is a big difference between man made "religion" and a belief in Jesus Christ. It was the "religious" who most fought Jesus was He was here. Religion is about ritual, about putting your time in at church on sunday, about trying to be good enough instead of cultivating a relationship.

Are you a chick?

Frazod
01-30-2007, 07:44 PM
While I am sure you have been very successful going around the country giving seminars on your expertise on the masturbation issue, I would just like to point out that there is a big difference between man made "religion" and a belief in Jesus Christ. It was the "religious" who most fought Jesus was He was here. Religion is about ritual, about putting your time in at church on sunday, about trying to be good enough instead of cultivating a relationship.

You know, I couldn't help but notice, you bible thumping piece of shit, that about the only place you haven't posted your godsmack is the STICKIED THREAD REQUESTING PRAYERS.

Too busy pissing off the rest of us to offer up a single kind thought for the one person here who's asking for it?

Oh irony. :shake:

FAX
01-30-2007, 07:44 PM
It appears Mr. frazod was right about Mr./Ms. Believer's capacity for self control, after all.

The record is stuck.

FAX

HMc
01-30-2007, 07:44 PM
People who buy into christianity or any other religion that believes the gaff was thrown together by a white bearded mofo in 7 days make 419 scam victims look like intelligent, opportunistic folk who've just had a bit of bad luck

Believer
01-30-2007, 07:45 PM
Believer gave the impression of suffering from never-wrongitis and "holier than thou" (pun intended). Believer firmly believes that what he says and thinks is absolutely correct, and those who would disagree need to be educated, as do most religious zealots. That's fine, all sorts of people pull the exact same thing with all kinds of varying subjects here. It's part of what makes ChiefsPlanet so entertaining.

That being said, I think he got his feelings hurt when people starting flipping him shit over those awful Christian videos. He took it personally, and was determined to make a point. When someone goes out of their way to make the same point over and over and over with the exact same threads over and over and over, some sort of action should probably be taken. Htismaqe did it right by not banning him, just telling him to get a grip.

I understand the point C-Mac is trying to make, and agree, but I don't believe that this is some type of persecution against all users. Gochiefs used to pull the same crap in his more petulant days, and got the same thing.


Now, I've typed all of this, and watch - Believer is another one of Kotter's aliases.

actually, the comments about the videos didnt bother me at all. One thing that I thought showed anti-Christian hostility was when I actually tried to post about football and instead of arguing against my football points with other football points, the answer to them was taking potshots at my Christianity, and it goes way beyond the Huard is Savior stuff.
the message was, you are a Christian, so what you say here will be insulted based on your Christianity.
That exposed an ugliness here.
And the fact that other Christians sat back silently showed an ugliness in them as well.

There were some encouraging words in the wilderness and I was very grateful for that. And I am kind of amused at the commotion that was caused by someone sharing an uncompromising Faith in God.

Believer
01-30-2007, 07:50 PM
You know, I couldn't help but notice, you bible thumping piece of shit, that about the only place you haven't posted your godsmack is the STICKIED THREAD REQUESTING PRAYERS.

Too busy pissing off the rest of us to offer up a single kind thought for the one person here who's asking for it?

Oh irony. :shake:

You are a pleasant one. And either havent read through the threads or are just lying. I have stated my reason for that many times already.

But just for you I'll do it again:

Knowing the less than pleasant reaction I get at this point, if I posted a prayer on one of those threads, some dope, or maybe a few of you, would start taking potshots at me and the whole focus of the thread would be ruined.

Im know enough to realize that. Otherwise, why WOULDNT I post on those threads, when prayer and faith is what my threads center on??

DUH!!!!

Frazod
01-30-2007, 07:54 PM
You are a pleasant one. And either havent read through the threads or are just lying. I have stated my reason for that many times already.

But just for you I'll do it again:

Knowing the less than pleasant reaction I get at this point, if I posted a prayer on one of those threads, some dope, or maybe a few of you, would start taking potshots at me and the whole focus of the thread would be ruined.

Im know enough to realize that. Otherwise, why WOULDNT I post on those threads, when prayer and faith is what my threads center on??

DUH!!!!

Because you're a hypocrit who cares less about true faith than annoying others?

Believer
01-30-2007, 07:59 PM
Because you're a hypocrit who cares less about true faith than annoying others?

really? explain some more.

I posted a ton of scriptural verses last night explaining why we need to be Born Again and to accept Jesus Christ in order to have Salvation.

NOBODY came up with any answer to it, except to fall back on the
"hes just trying to annoy people"

when you got nothing else I guess its easier to resort to that.

more than likely, many of you are being convicted by all this and its making you more than a little uncomfortable.

Its that way when God wants you to change.

Spott
01-30-2007, 08:02 PM
Maybe we can change the site name to godsplanet. And on bad days, we can call it goddammitplanet.

FAX
01-30-2007, 08:03 PM
You are a pleasant one. And either havent read through the threads or are just lying. I have stated my reason for that many times already.

But just for you I'll do it again:

Knowing the less than pleasant reaction I get at this point, if I posted a prayer on one of those threads, some dope, or maybe a few of you, would start taking potshots at me and the whole focus of the thread would be ruined.

Im know enough to realize that. Otherwise, why WOULDNT I post on those threads, when prayer and faith is what my threads center on??

DUH!!!!

I'm sorry, but that's absurd.

In the first place, you obviously don't care if someone takes "potshots" at you ... you invite it. Secondly, a very appropriate expression of your "faith" would be to offer support to those who request it ... which you don't. Third, the Planet has always been very careful not to condone the inappropriate hijacking of prayer request threads ... which you know. You don't make much sense.

Unfortunately, I think you're just raising hell on purpose.

FAX

Dartgod
01-30-2007, 08:05 PM
I changed my mind. Ban this fuqtard.

|Zach|
01-30-2007, 08:07 PM
I changed my mind. Ban this fuqtard.
ROFL

DJay23
01-30-2007, 08:14 PM
For some reason I can't get those WWJD wristbands out of my head and wonder...would Hey Zeus really be spamming Kansas City Chief message boards?

Frazod
01-30-2007, 08:17 PM
really? explain some more.

I posted a ton of scriptural verses last night explaining why we need to be Born Again and to accept Jesus Christ in order to have Salvation.

NOBODY came up with any answer to it, except to fall back on the
"hes just trying to annoy people"

when you got nothing else I guess its easier to resort to that.

more than likely, many of you are being convicted by all this and its making you more than a little uncomfortable.

Its that way when God wants you to change.
Because I've got better things to do than go tit-for-tat with some zealot asshole over bible verses, you think you've got the better of me? Not likely. I have nothing but contempt for people like you. This world will never know peace because of people like you. God forbid you just quietly live your life and let others do the same. No, what fun would that be? You have to shove your beliefs down everybody's throat and then run and hide behind your faith when we get sick of it.

I don't respect you or give a f#ck what you think about anything, nutjob. And my beliefs are my business, not yours.

Frazod
01-30-2007, 08:22 PM
I changed my mind. Ban this fuqtard.

:banghead:

mississippichiefan
01-30-2007, 08:31 PM
Wow, joined in 04 with a little more than a hundred posts and you really have responded.

Could you please explain what you mean by this .

RedNeckRaider
01-30-2007, 08:34 PM
Maybe we can change the site name to godsplanet. And on bad days, we can call it goddammitplanet.
crap I know I am going to hell for laughing at that!

Logical
01-30-2007, 09:44 PM
really? explain some more.

I posted a ton of scriptural verses last night explaining why we need to be Born Again and to accept Jesus Christ in order to have Salvation.

NOBODY came up with any answer to it, except to fall back on the
"hes just trying to annoy people"

when you got nothing else I guess its easier to resort to that.

more than likely, many of you are being convicted by all this and its making you more than a little uncomfortable.

Its that way when God wants you to change.

Look we all know you want to believe that a book written by flawed men (all men are flawed) is beyond question. That your belief in that makes you believe you are superior and allows you to be judgemental (even when that book says your savior said not to) and push yourself and your beliefs on those who are not interested. You are closed minded, self absorbed (what you want is more important than what others want or believe), and inconsiderate. You have proven nothing by quoting the bible other than you can quote the bible. I would guess that no one wasted their time on debating with you because they did not want to give you a further platform for your self gratification.

Believer
01-30-2007, 09:48 PM
Yes, you are. This is 100% because of Believer's personal behavior.

For the last time, it's not the MESSAGE, it's the METHOD.

Believer couldn't seem to grasp that.

and exactly what was the specific problem with the behavior?

Because I wouldnt stop saying it while others took potshots at Christ?

it seems to be ok to be rude and anti-Christian if you are in the majority.

poor behavior is defined here as having a belief that something is true and being unwilling to compromise on it.

accepted behavior on Chiefsplanet is telling that person he is a piece of *&^*, posting pictures of women in underwear, posting pictures that are disrespectful to Jesus Christ etc etc

if thats the definition then by all means, being accused of poor behavior is a compliment.

keg in kc
01-30-2007, 09:49 PM
Have I mentioned that he or she is just a troll?

This is like the 'god' version of Packfan from back in the day, instead of saying "qb's like him can be had for free every day" and "haven't won a playoff game in xxx years" to draw ire, this troll's baiting with religious stuff.

Same spiel. A troll is a troll is a troll. Period.

Believer
01-30-2007, 09:51 PM
Look we all know you want to believe that a book written by flawed men (all men are flawed) is beyond question. That your belief in that makes you believe you are superior and allows you to be judgemental (even when that book says your savior said not to) and push yourself and your beliefs on those who are not interested. You are closed minded, self absorbed (what you want is more important than what others want or believe), and inconsiderate. You have proven nothing by quoting the bible other than you can quote the bible. I would guess that no one wasted their time on debating with you because they did not want to give you a further platform for your self gratification.


arent you being close minded and judgemental?

my my

if i'm wrong, i'll get a very pleasant surprise.

What if you're wrong?

Believer
01-30-2007, 09:54 PM
Because I've got better things to do than go tit-for-tat with some zealot asshole over bible verses, you think you've got the better of me? Not likely. I have nothing but contempt for people like you. This world will never know peace because of people like you. God forbid you just quietly live your life and let others do the same. No, what fun would that be? You have to shove your beliefs down everybody's throat and then run and hide behind your faith when we get sick of it.

I don't respect you or give a f#ck what you think about anything, nutjob. And my beliefs are my business, not yours.

you've really shown how your way would be better for world peace.

so why are you so angry and full of hate?

Bowser
01-30-2007, 09:56 PM
Hamas is right. This is an alter ego.

Believer
01-30-2007, 10:02 PM
I'm sorry, but that's absurd.

In the first place, you obviously don't care if someone takes "potshots" at you ... you invite it. Secondly, a very appropriate expression of your "faith" would be to offer support to those who request it ... which you don't. Third, the Planet has always been very careful not to condone the inappropriate hijacking of prayer request threads ... which you know. You don't make much sense.

Unfortunately, I think you're just raising hell on purpose.

FAX

yes, to get you to wake up about the Hell the Lord wants to save you from.

you keep focusing on my "behavior" which has been nothing more than talking about what the Bible says. In the meantime instead of responding to what the Bible says it goes back to my "behavior".

If you guys are so secure in your own beliefs why do you
A) Get so upset that many of you resort to swearing at me
B) Keep responding

Hell is being raised in you, thats for sure.

keg in kc
01-30-2007, 10:03 PM
Hamas is right. This is an alter ego.Yeah, I've been saying that for days now, and I think the bit about frazod being angry gives it away.

My money's still on kotter, but it could be anybody.

Frazod
01-30-2007, 10:05 PM
you've really shown how your way would be better for world peace.

so why are you so angry and full of hate?

Because religious nuts are the bane of humanity.

Frazod
01-30-2007, 10:06 PM
Yeah, I've been saying that for days now, and I think the bit about frazod being angry gives it away.

My money's still on kotter, but it could be anybody.

Well, if that's the case, nuthooks and banning to the offender. F#ck I hate this crap. :#

Believer
01-30-2007, 10:10 PM
Because religious nuts are the bane of humanity.

oooh, good comeback.

Logical
01-30-2007, 10:11 PM
arent you being close minded and judgemental?

my my

if i'm wrong, i'll get a very pleasant surprise.

What if you're wrong?
What if I am right, what if all you believe in is a sham? What if the way to the Lord is through Islam or maybe Buddha? What if there is no way to God other than by being a good person who has lived their life without interfering in the lives of others?

What if? Exactly.

RJ
01-30-2007, 10:13 PM
Have I mentioned that he or she is just a troll?

This is like the 'god' version of Packfan from back in the day, instead of saying "qb's like him can be had for free every day" and "haven't won a playoff game in xxx years" to draw ire, this troll's baiting with religious stuff.

Same spiel. A troll is a troll is a troll. Period.



That's it right there. This person is annoying and I'd imagine he/she is always the same regardless of the subject matter. Some people are just that way, taking pleasure in pissing off everyone around them. I assume that's because it's so much easier to get negative attention than positive attention. Much quicker results.

ChiefsLV
01-30-2007, 10:18 PM
Identifying a thread as being a one thing and then posting something different in it, in this case the same message that appeared in two or three other threads created by you, is the epitome of trolling.

I had no problem with the message in Believer's threads. I stayed out of them for the most part since I don't share those beliefs. But why the need to open separate threads on the same topic? And why the need to trick me into going into a thread with a title that has me thinking it is football, when it is not? That is where you crossed over the line IMO. And that is why you lost your thread creation privileges.

FAX
01-30-2007, 10:23 PM
yes, to get you to wake up about the Hell the Lord wants to save you from.

you keep focusing on my "behavior" which has been nothing more than talking about what the Bible says. In the meantime instead of responding to what the Bible says it goes back to my "behavior".

If you guys are so secure in your own beliefs why do you
A) Get so upset that many of you resort to swearing at me
B) Keep responding

Hell is being raised in you, thats for sure.

You are either a great baiter, or very foolish. This is your response to my post? Who is "you guys"? As for the topic, my personal spiritual development (of which you know absolutely nothing) is not the issue. Nor are the biblical texts. Your lack of consideration for others is.

There are plenty of places on the web where religious discussion is welcomed and people can type the sinner's prayer all day long if they wish. Unfortunately for your agenda, I don't think ChiefsPlanet is one of them.

Anyway, my point regarding the prayer threads stands. I don't believe you're authentic. Either that, or you're brainwashed. Or maybe you just need to get drunk and break something.

Either way, I haven't sworn at you. Not once. But you're right about the responses. You make the Planet a far less pleasant place for me. Welcome to ignore.

FAX

Simplex3
01-30-2007, 10:29 PM
...Either way, I haven't sworn at you. Not once. But you're right about the responses. You make the Planet a far less pleasant place for me. Welcome to ignore.

FAX
Hehe. Until you quoted him I didn't know he'd been back since his thread-making privileges were revoked.

Logical
01-30-2007, 10:31 PM
Yeah, I've been saying that for days now, and I think the bit about frazod being angry gives it away.

My money's still on kotter, but it could be anybody.I would put my money on it being Proctor's alter ego.

FAX
01-30-2007, 10:33 PM
Hehe. Until you quoted him I didn't know he'd been back since his thread-making privileges were revoked.

There appear to be many theories about this user, Mr. Simplex3.

1. Idiot troll.
2. Fake login person.
3. Retarded evangelist with idea deficit disorder.
4. Reincarnation of St. Bartholomew's little sister.

Which are you going with?

FAX

Simplex3
01-30-2007, 10:35 PM
There appear to be many theories about this user, Mr. Simplex3.

1. Idiot troll.
2. Fake login person.
3. Retarded evangelist with idea deficit disorder.
4. Reincarnation of St. Bartholomew's little sister.

Which are you going with?

FAX
I'm firmly in the "F**k it because I'm ignoring the idiot" camp.

Frazod
01-30-2007, 10:36 PM
I would put my money on it being Proctor's alter ego.

No way. Johnny's the frontal assault type, not the sneaking alter-ego type.

Besides, I think if it was a regular poster, Parker would have noticed that and said something.

Frazod
01-30-2007, 10:37 PM
I'm firmly in the "F**k it because I'm ignoring the idiot" camp.

Since burning at the stake isn't a viable option, I think I may join you.

Logical
01-30-2007, 10:48 PM
No way. Johnny's the frontal assault type, not the sneaking alter-ego type.

Besides, I think if it was a regular poster, Parker would have noticed that and said something.Not neccesarily that Proctor. I think it could be Amy, but on the other hand I have noticed since he began posting so much the last few days than John has not been posting.

I actually see no similarity in writing style with any other poster, but I notice similarities in dogged pursuit of one idea.

Frazod
01-30-2007, 10:54 PM
Not neccesarily that Proctor. I think it could be Amy, but on the other hand I have noticed since he began posting so much the last few days than John has not been posting.

I actually see no similarity in writing style with any other poster, but I notice similarities in dogged pursuit of one idea.

Who is Amy?

FAX
01-30-2007, 10:55 PM
Amy Magdalene.

Descendent of Jesus, rodeo queen, and pretty pissed off at us.

FAX

Mosbonian
01-30-2007, 11:04 PM
yes, to get you to wake up about the Hell the Lord wants to save you from.

you keep focusing on my "behavior" which has been nothing more than talking about what the Bible says. In the meantime instead of responding to what the Bible says it goes back to my "behavior".

If you guys are so secure in your own beliefs why do you
A) Get so upset that many of you resort to swearing at me
B) Keep responding

Hell is being raised in you, thats for sure.

Believer:

A) I am not upset with you...I am truly disappointed in you

B) I try not to respond, but your continued attempts to incite only lead to further insults and disparaging comments from others about Christians in general. While I am disappointed in their comments, I am even more disappointed in you because you know better, yet still insist on being the igniter.

Your zealous nature is leading you astray.....compassion and love are the cornerstones of Christianity, not hateful comments and spiteful insinuations...

mmaddog
*******

FAX
01-30-2007, 11:07 PM
Well posted, Mr. mmaddog.

FAX

Logical
01-30-2007, 11:21 PM
Who is Amy?John Proctor's wife.

Logical
01-30-2007, 11:22 PM
Amy Magdalene.

Descendent of Jesus, rodeo queen, and pretty pissed off at us.

FAXROFL

By the way did I drive this doofus off. He has not posted since I asked him what if he was wrong. I can only hope so.

FAX
01-30-2007, 11:57 PM
By the way did I drive this doofus off. He has not posted since I asked him what if he was wrong. I can only hope so.

I don't know, Mr. Logical. Due to the miracle of technology, I can't see him. Perhaps he has ascended into the heavens.

If so, I wonder when he'll be back. And, if he's bringing those horse guys with him.

FAX

Logical
01-31-2007, 12:05 AM
I don't know, Mr. Logical. Due to the miracle of technology, I can't see him. Perhaps he has ascended into the heavens.

If so, I wonder when he'll be back. And, if he's bringing those horse guys with him.

FAXI believe you made a wise choice.

RedDread
01-31-2007, 03:11 AM
You are a pleasant one. And either havent read through the threads or are just lying. I have stated my reason for that many times already.

But just for you I'll do it again:

Knowing the less than pleasant reaction I get at this point, if I posted a prayer on one of those threads, some dope, or maybe a few of you, would start taking potshots at me and the whole focus of the thread would be ruined.

Im know enough to realize that. Otherwise, why WOULDNT I post on those threads, when prayer and faith is what my threads center on??

DUH!!!!


So now you're not posting in a thread asking for prayers because you've started to care what people think about you and your intentions?

Where was this sudden new-found conscience when you were spamming the board with all the other BS?

Ultra Peanut
01-31-2007, 03:37 AM
While I am sure you have been very successful going around the country giving seminars on your expertise on the masturbation issue, I would just like to point out that there is a big difference between man made "religion" and a belief in Jesus Christ. It was the "religious" who most fought Jesus was He was here. Religion is about ritual, about putting your time in at church on sunday, about trying to be good enough instead of cultivating a relationship.BUKKAKE

if i'm wrong, i'll get a very pleasant surprise.

What if you're wrong?
...
yes, to get you to wake up about the Hell the Lord wants to save you from.I'm the Boogeyman! And I'm comin' to getcha!

http://imgred.com/http://www.wwe-germanyhistory.de/images/tnmm_120_boogeyman.jpg

Believer
01-31-2007, 05:43 AM
So now you're not posting in a thread asking for prayers because you've started to care what people think about you and your intentions?

Where was this sudden new-found conscience when you were spamming the board with all the other BS?

because the people who have requested prayers deserve the right to not have there time of need disrupted by you people.
Again, im not refraining posting prayers on those threads to keep ME out of it, im refraining to keep those who would use it to attack me out of it.

also, do any of you use this word SPAM even know what the word means??

When SPAM pops up on your computer you are forced to read it.

if you didnt want to read my threads, heres an interesting idea, dont open it.

And equating "conscience" around being respectful around a prayer thread or posting to you guys?? puh-leeeze.

Where is your conscience around posting disrespectful images about Jesus? And if you are the one who did it or not, by condoning it you are part of the problem.

HMc
01-31-2007, 05:55 AM
http://www.nobeliefs.com/politics/JesusWantsYou.gif

HMc
01-31-2007, 05:59 AM
http://www.ninthfloor.com/photo/cartoons/cigarettes_mission_web.jpg

Short Leash Hootie
01-31-2007, 06:39 AM
Nobody is allowed to touch your account. You said you were sick of people messing with it, so it's strictly hands-off from now on.
I never said that.

My thread-making privileges were banned for making Chiefs threads.

But whatever, I realize I don't mean jack shit to this website...but it would be nice if I could make an occasional thread here and there...

Like for instance, Trent Green just dropped to an 84 on the recent Madden online update...placing him only 4 points above Damon Huard and his rapid rise from a 66 before the season to an 80 after update number 2...

Woodrow Call
01-31-2007, 08:14 AM
Like for instance, Trent Green just dropped to an 84 on the recent Madden online update...placing him only 4 points above Damon Huard and his rapid rise from a 66 before the season to an 80 after update number 2...

ROFL Well I guess you were right all along.

Sully
01-31-2007, 08:30 AM
compassion and love are the cornerstones of Christianity, not hateful comments and spiteful insinuations...



Fantastic!!!


Thank you!!!

htismaqe
01-31-2007, 08:42 AM
because the people who have requested prayers deserve the right to not have there time of need disrupted by you people.
Again, im not refraining posting prayers on those threads to keep ME out of it, im refraining to keep those who would use it to attack me out of it.

also, do any of you use this word SPAM even know what the word means??

When SPAM pops up on your computer you are forced to read it.

if you didnt want to read my threads, heres an interesting idea, dont open it.

And equating "conscience" around being respectful around a prayer thread or posting to you guys?? puh-leeeze.

Where is your conscience around posting disrespectful images about Jesus? And if you are the one who did it or not, by condoning it you are part of the problem.

So you're basically thumbing your nose at the whole deal?

I guess I'll just have to ban you then.

Frazod
01-31-2007, 08:44 AM
So you're basically thumbing your nose at the whole deal?

I guess I'll just have to ban you then.

Thank you.

Short Leash Hootie
01-31-2007, 08:47 AM
Now, let me make threads and justice will be served!

htismaqe
01-31-2007, 08:52 AM
Now, let me make threads and justice will be served!

Shut up.

The more you ask, the less I'm inclined to do anything about it.

Cochise
01-31-2007, 08:54 AM
So you're basically thumbing your nose at the whole deal?

I guess I'll just have to ban you then.

Praise the Lord.

boogblaster
01-31-2007, 08:54 AM
No to Hootie ...

htismaqe
01-31-2007, 08:55 AM
and exactly what was the specific problem with the behavior?

Because I wouldnt stop saying it while others took potshots at Christ?

it seems to be ok to be rude and anti-Christian if you are in the majority.

poor behavior is defined here as having a belief that something is true and being unwilling to compromise on it.

accepted behavior on Chiefsplanet is telling that person he is a piece of *&^*, posting pictures of women in underwear, posting pictures that are disrespectful to Jesus Christ etc etc

if thats the definition then by all means, being accused of poor behavior is a compliment.

I admonish you to find a SINGLE thread started by anyone here for the sole purpose of being "disrespectful to Jesus Christ".

You won't find one that hasn't been treated EXACTLY THE SAME WAY YOU HAVE.

Cochise
01-31-2007, 08:55 AM
Hootie is better neutered too.

C-Mac
01-31-2007, 08:57 AM
Why dont we just start a Banned Forum?

Bowser
01-31-2007, 08:58 AM
Why dont we just start a Banned Forum?

Actually, I think the admin forums have a thread with a list of all names ever banned.

It would be kinda cool to see that list.....

htismaqe
01-31-2007, 08:59 AM
Why dont we just start a Banned Forum?

I take it you still have a problem with this?

Short Leash Hootie
01-31-2007, 09:05 AM
Shut up.

The more you ask, the less I'm inclined to do anything about it.
Well...

The only way it's ever going to happen, is if I refresh your memory from time to time...

You're not going to wake up one day six months from now and think to yourself, "boy! That hootie sure has been a pretty good poster lately! I'll let him make threads again!"

Persistence pays off! Besides, I hadn't said a word about it up until yesterday for months.

C-Mac
01-31-2007, 09:41 AM
I take it you still have a problem with this?

Look I think your still reading me wrong. Again I 100% agree with the decision you were forced to make, I would have done the very same thing. I was just trying to bring out that there is a need to clearly distinguish a basis for all mods and for all those that post of what is acceptable without being bias or predjudice. You can even chose a new name like the "believer rule" just so you can establish the grounds and apply it the next time it happens. What I dont want to see is posters that maybe are sincere but need to be more mature in expressing themselves, or they just seem annoying to some, or they are strongly opinionated, or are religiously zealous, to be dealt with differently than anyone else. I've seen a lot of posters over the years and I have seen some that were like the aforementioned, but were chastised, hammered, molded, and groomed along by the fellow posters and now very much add to the personality of the Planet. So the only thing we still may disagree on is the very muddied and controversial reasons for Believer's privelage loss, not the action.
The Banned Forum idea was just a joke, but wouldnt it be interesting to see some threads and conversations from such a place. I thought I saw somewhere in a different chat forum where they had a "Romper Room" for such posters.

crazycoffey
01-31-2007, 09:43 AM
am I in the "groomed" stage yet???

C-Mac
01-31-2007, 09:46 AM
am I in the "groomed" stage yet???

Oh I think there is hope for even you CrazyCoffey.

htismaqe
01-31-2007, 09:46 AM
Look I think your still reading me wrong. Again I 100% agree with the decision you were forced to make, I would have done the very same thing. I was just trying to bring out that there is a need to clearly distinguish a basis for all mods and for all those that post of what is acceptable without being bias or predjudice. You can even chose a new name like the "believer rule" just so you can establish the grounds and apply it the next time it happens. What I dont want to see is posters that maybe are sincere but need to be more mature in expressing themselves, or they just seem annoying to some, or they are strongly opinionated, or are religiously zealous, to be dealt with differently than anyone else. I've seen a lot of posters over the years and I have seen some that were like the aforementioned, but were chastised, hammered, molded, and groomed along by the fellow posters and now very much add to the personality of the Planet. So the only thing we still may disagree on is the very muddied and controversial reasons for Believer's privelage loss, not the action.
The Banned Forum idea was just a joke, but wouldnt it be interesting to see some threads and conversations from such a place. I thought I saw somewhere in a different chat forum where they had a "Romper Room" for such posters.

I just don't see the need for more rules.

Things here have always been pretty much up to the interpretation of the mods, and I think we've all EARNED the trust of the people here that it won't be abused (within reason). In addition, anytime we've undertaken something major, we've appealed to the entire membership for their opinions.

Adding more rules only means that enforcement mechanisms will need to be more strict, which means we'll need more mods, and we'll spend more time talking about who broke what rule, etc. instead of just enjoying ourselves.

Short Leash Hootie
01-31-2007, 09:52 AM
Look I think your still reading me wrong. Again I 100% agree with the decision you were forced to make, I would have done the very same thing. I was just trying to bring out that there is a need to clearly distinguish a basis for all mods and for all those that post of what is acceptable without being bias or predjudice. You can even chose a new name like the "believer rule" just so you can establish the grounds and apply it the next time it happens. What I dont want to see is posters that maybe are sincere but need to be more mature in expressing themselves, or they just seem annoying to some, or they are strongly opinionated, or are religiously zealous, to be dealt with differently than anyone else. I've seen a lot of posters over the years and I have seen some that were like the aforementioned, but were chastised, hammered, molded, and groomed along by the fellow posters and now very much add to the personality of the Planet. So the only thing we still may disagree on is the very muddied and controversial reasons for Believer's privelage loss, not the action.
The Banned Forum idea was just a joke, but wouldnt it be interesting to see some threads and conversations from such a place. I thought I saw somewhere in a different chat forum where they had a "Romper Room" for such posters.
What if I told you...

A poster who made a few threads a week, 95% Chiefs related, would sometimes get a bit carried away during Chiefs games...he once made three threads in a three hour time-span, on a gameday, was told he was spamming the board, and then lost his thread making privileges...would you consider that fair?

I mean, I don't know, ChiefsPlanet.com...Chiefs threads...Sunday...loses his thread making privileges because his opinion on who the team's starting QB should be differed from the majority...

Makes a lot of sense.

GoChiefs can make threads about what Carrie Underwood ate for an afternoon snack...but making a thread about a ridiculous playcall made during an important drive is NOT TOLERATED!

crazycoffey
01-31-2007, 09:54 AM
yeah, it's time for me to leave this thread.....





...... I need to go get some popcorn.

htismaqe
01-31-2007, 09:54 AM
What if I told you...

A poster who made a few threads a week, 95% Chiefs related, would sometimes get a bit carried away during Chiefs games...he once made three threads in a three hour time-span, on a gameday, was told he was spamming the board, and then lost his thread making privileges...would you consider that fair?

I mean, I don't know, ChiefsPlanet.com...Chiefs threads...Sunday...loses his thread making privileges because his opinion on who the team's starting QB should be differed from the majority...

Makes a lot of sense.

GoChiefs can make threads about what Carrie Underwood ate for an afternoon snack...but making a thread about a ridiculous playcall made during an important drive is NOT TOLERATED!

Please shut up. Please.

Just go make a thread and SHUT UP.

Short Leash Hootie
01-31-2007, 09:55 AM
I just don't see the need for more rules.

Things here have always been pretty much up to the interpretation of the mods, and I think we've all EARNED the trust of the people here that it won't be abused (within reason). In addition, anytime we've undertaken something major, we've appealed to the entire membership for their opinions.

Adding more rules only means that enforcement mechanisms will need to be more strict, which means we'll need more mods, and we'll spend more time talking about who broke what rule, etc. instead of just enjoying ourselves.
Hahahahahaahahahahahaha!!!!

That's hilarious.

Everyone disliked my take on the Huard/Green situation, a few threads got out of hand (by EVERYONE), and yet I'm the only one that was reprimanded.

Go look at my thread history. Almost all Chiefs threads. It's ridiculous that I can't make threads, about the Chiefs, on ChiefsPlanet.com.

Yeah, 'won't be abused' - within reason...that isn't total 100% bullshit or anything...

Short Leash Hootie
01-31-2007, 09:56 AM
Please shut up. Please.

Just go make a thread and SHUT UP.
That's the spirit.

My bitching is complete.

crazycoffey
01-31-2007, 09:59 AM
Please shut up. Please.

Just go make a thread and SHUT UP.


I've learned something today......














Hootie's a bitch!

htismaqe
01-31-2007, 09:59 AM
Hahahahahaahahahahahaha!!!!

That's hilarious.

Everyone disliked my take on the Huard/Green situation, a few threads got out of hand (by EVERYONE), and yet I'm the only one that was reprimanded.

Go look at my thread history. Almost all Chiefs threads. It's ridiculous that I can't make threads, about the Chiefs, on ChiefsPlanet.com.

Yeah, 'won't be abused' - within reason...that isn't total 100% bullshit or anything...

Seriously, you're not a martyr. If you think your situation was created by anyone other than YOU, you're wrong.

MANY people here have had their accounts screwed with, the mods do have fun from time to time at other people's expense. The problem is that you CRIED ABOUT IT, VERY VOCALLY, which tends to only intensify the problem.

You acted like a retard and got it back in return. I'm not really sure you've learned anything at all from it based on posts like this, but at this point, you've been given the proverbial rope.

C-Mac
01-31-2007, 09:59 AM
I just don't see the need for more rules.

Things here have always been pretty much up to the interpretation of the mods, and I think we've all EARNED the trust of the people here that it won't be abused (within reason). In addition, anytime we've undertaken something major, we've appealed to the entire membership for their opinions.

Adding more rules only means that enforcement mechanisms will need to be more strict, which means we'll need more mods, and we'll spend more time talking about who broke what rule, etc. instead of just enjoying ourselves.

Agreed, I dont see a need for new rules either.....just clear use and definitions of the existing rules.

Short Leash Hootie
01-31-2007, 10:03 AM
Seriously, you're not a martyr. If you think your situation was created by anyone other than YOU, you're wrong.

MANY people here have had their accounts screwed with, the mods do have fun from time to time at other people's expense. The problem is that you CRIED ABOUT IT, VERY VOCALLY, which tends to only intensify the problem.

You acted like a retard and got it back in return. I'm not really sure you've learned anything at all from it based on posts like this, but at this point, you've been given the proverbial rope.
I don't care if anyone ****s with my account. Doesn't bother me. Edit my posts, my name, my avatar...I don't care. My name was Pootie for at least a month. Doesn't bother me...

But when I want to talk Chiefs football...it's pretty hard when you can't make threads. I think the majority of my threads had a point, and most of them had several replies/hits and good conversation insued.

I don't make threads for attention, contrary to popular belief. I could careless. If I wanted people to like me, accept me, or anything like that I'd probably carry myself in a different manner than I do...

htismaqe
01-31-2007, 10:03 AM
Agreed, I dont see a need for new rules either.....just clear use and definitions of the existing rules.

That's a worthy ideal, but that's probably all it is.

The mods aren't any different than anybody else here. They didn't come to CP to be MODS, they came here to be members. We don't spend 24-hours a day here (even though it may seem like it at times :D) and even when we DO happen to be here during an event, we're not always going to interpret the situation quickly and handle it the way everyone wants.

All we can do is move forward from here and learn from this latest issue. It's never going to be perfect, but it can always get better.

Dartgod
01-31-2007, 10:06 AM
I don't care if anyone ****s with my account. Doesn't bother me. Edit my posts, my name, my avatar...I don't care. My name was Pootie for at least a month. Doesn't bother me...

But when I want to talk Chiefs football...it's pretty hard when you can't make threads. I think the majority of my threads had a point, and most of them had several replies/hits and good conversation insued.

I don't make threads for attention, contrary to popular belief. I could careless. If I wanted people to like me, accept me, or anything like that I'd probably carry myself in a different manner than I do...
I thought you were done bitching?

Short Leash Hootie
01-31-2007, 10:08 AM
I thought you were done bitching?
that was bitching?

crazycoffey
01-31-2007, 10:10 AM
that was bitching?



start a thread poll and ask if it was bitching or not.

Dartgod
01-31-2007, 10:10 AM
that was bitching?
Duh.

keg in kc
01-31-2007, 10:10 AM
Oh hell, I didn't know there were two proctors. One was bad enough.

Short Leash Hootie
01-31-2007, 10:11 AM
I don't like any of you...

Dartgod
01-31-2007, 10:13 AM
I don't like any of you...
See, that's the kind of attitude you need to get along here.

htismaqe
01-31-2007, 10:13 AM
I don't care if anyone ****s with my account. Doesn't bother me. Edit my posts, my name, my avatar...I don't care. My name was Pootie for at least a month. Doesn't bother me...

But when I want to talk Chiefs football...it's pretty hard when you can't make threads. I think the majority of my threads had a point, and most of them had several replies/hits and good conversation insued.

I don't make threads for attention, contrary to popular belief. I could careless. If I wanted people to like me, accept me, or anything like that I'd probably carry myself in a different manner than I do...

You "just wanna talk Chiefs football". Heard that one before.

Beating people over the head with multiple threads calling them idiots doesn't necessarily lend itself to discussion.

keg in kc
01-31-2007, 10:14 AM
I have Hootie on ignore.

I didn't think I had anyone on ignore.

Hmm.

You know, if you don't like anybody here, then...why are you here?

Short Leash Hootie
01-31-2007, 10:15 AM
You "just wanna talk Chiefs football". Heard that one before.

Beating people over the head with multiple threads calling them idiots doesn't necessarily lend itself to discussion.
None of my threads started like that...

I gave reasons why Huard was a better fit for this team...I was told I was an idiot (by everyone), so I fired back...

I can't help it the threads lasted for pages and pages and pages...it's hard to defend your opinion against 300 people.

Short Leash Hootie
01-31-2007, 10:15 AM
I have Hootie on ignore.

I didn't think I had anyone on ignore.

Hmm.

You know, if you don't like anybody here, then...why are you here?
:banghead:

htismaqe
01-31-2007, 10:19 AM
None of my threads started like that...

I gave reasons why Huard was a better fit for this team...I was told I was an idiot (by everyone), so I fired back...

I can't help it the threads lasted for pages and pages and pages...it's hard to defend your opinion against 300 people.

Perhaps if EVERYBODY you talk to disagrees with you you should re-examine your opinion?

Or at least just take a deep breath and keep quiet for a bit?

Because that would mean not being the center of attention for a few days.

You know damn well that you were trying to stir up trouble, regardless of what any of your other intentions were...

Short Leash Hootie
01-31-2007, 10:22 AM
Perhaps if EVERYBODY you talk to disagrees with you you should re-examine your opinion?

Or at least just take a deep breath and keep quiet for a bit?

Because that would mean not being the center of attention for a few days.

You know damn well that you were trying to stir up trouble, regardless of what any of your other intentions were...
Stir up trouble?

Whatever.

Besides...we all saw who was right in the end.

crazycoffey
01-31-2007, 10:23 AM
Stir up trouble?

Whatever.

Besides...we all saw who was right in the end.




yup, us!