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InChiefsHell
02-05-2007, 12:15 PM
Last night, I was over at a buddy's house and later in the game, the conversation somehow turned to the HOF. He is a Bronco fan and was saying how ridiculous it was that Terrell Davis has not made the hall. I disagreed,and said that I don't think he is HOF material, not enough time in. He brought up Priest, and the argument was on...

...I did a little research and sent him the following. Hope you all dig it as much as I do...He hasn't replied yet, but I was curious what you all thought...Sorry about the graphs, the didn't copy in very well...you can get a better idea of the stats from the links I posted.

Priest Holmes: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/HolmPr00.htm

+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1997 bal | 7 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 0 0 0.0 0 |
| 1998 bal | 16 | 233 1008 4.3 7 | 43 260 6.0 0 |
| 1999 bal | 8 | 89 506 5.7 1 | 13 104 8.0 1 |
| 2000 bal | 16 | 137 588 4.3 2 | 32 221 6.9 0 |
| 2001 kan | 16 | 327 1555 4.8 8 | 62 614 9.9 2 |
| 2002 kan | 14 | 313 1615 5.2 21 | 70 672 9.6 3 |
| 2003 kan | 16 | 320 1420 4.4 27 | 74 690 9.3 0 |
| 2004 kan | 8 | 196 892 4.6 14 | 19 187 9.8 1 |
| 2005 kan | 7 | 119 451 3.8 6 | 21 197 9.4 1 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 108 | 1734 8035 4.6 86 | 334 2945 8.8 8 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+


Terrell Davis: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/DaviTe00.htm

+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1995 den | 14 | 237 1117 4.7 7 | 49 367 7.5 1 |
| 1996 den | 16 | 345 1538 4.5 13 | 36 310 8.6 2 |
| 1997 den | 15 | 369 1750 4.7 15 | 42 287 6.8 0 |
| 1998 den | 16 | 392 2008 5.1 21 | 25 217 8.7 2 |
| 1999 den | 4 | 67 211 3.1 2 | 3 26 8.7 0 |
| 2000 den | 5 | 78 282 3.6 2 | 2 4 2.0 0 |
| 2001 den | 11 | 167 701 4.2 0 | 12 69 5.8 0 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 81 | 1655 7607 4.6 60 | 169 1280 7.6 5 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+


As you can see, Priest has the same rushing yard average, has 26 more TD’s, has a higher receiving yard average and 3 more receiving TD’s, all while playing only 1 season longer than Davis (He did not touch the ball his rookie season with the Ravens). Davis has one 2000 yard season, an admirable accomplishment to be sure. Priest was not a starter until he started in Kansas city. Of the 5 seasons he played as a starter, he was injured for almost 2 of them, so his stats are pretty remarkable for a guy who was hurt as much as he was. Davis must have gotten the injury bug after the 2000 yard season in 98, I’m guessing. His production drops off dramatically at that point, but he did finish with 701 yards his last season. His first 4 seasons as a starter were more impressive than were Priest’s, although Priest was on track for another record setting TD season and over 1700 yards on the ground before his injury halfway through the 2004 season.

As far as intangibles go, I can’t say much about TD, because I only watched him twice a year when he played the Chiefs. I of course being a Chiefs homer have not really missed a minute of Priest’s career as a Chief. Not only could he score TD’s on the ground, but he was a great receiving back and perhaps most importantly, he almost never missed a block. That’s where Larry Johnson cannot touch Priest. Larry is a bruising running back, very fast and still pretty young. But he’s not much of a pass catcher, and he is a horrible blocker. Priest was a guy you could depend on. He was also very sure handed, he went through the entire 2003 season with 27 rushing TD’s (A league record at the time) and either one or no fumbles until the post season.

Statistically, they are VERY similar. They both were 3 time pro bowlers. Priest was number 1 in one of the following statistical categories such as Rushing TD’s, Total TD’s , Yards rushing and Yards from Scrimmage a total of 7 times in his career, where TD only 4 such times. Priest had 3 seasons with over 2000 all purpose yards, TD hit that mark twice. Priest was top 50 All Time in 5 categories, TD was in 3 and never had a higher number than Priest. TD owns Priest on post season play, but he was also a starter for his team while Priest was the backup on the Ravens squad. Still, post season numbers are important for HOF consideration, I would think. What TD had that PH did not are 2 Superbowls, and the MVP to go along with it, and of course the 2000+ rushing season. TD, in my opinion was the reason that the Broncos were finally able to make to the SB and win. He was the missing link for that team. But if you could be intellectually honest, he had help from a great defense. PH NEVER had that luxury, as the Chiefs Defense was among the league’s worst in his tenure with the Chiefs. I’m just glad Priest got a ring with the Ravens, at least he can say he did that. When you add the fact that he was an un-drafted rookie, you’d have to say that he was a pretty remarkable player. And hey, he’s STILL talking about coming back although I doubt it.

My final assessment: Priest was the greatest running back in the league when he played, and was the greatest since Terrell Davis. Should Davis be a hall of famer? I don’t know, he played more seasons than I thought he did. With 2 SB’s, a SB MVP and a 2000 yard season, his flash in the pan was a very bright one. Like a lot of great backs, injuries caught up to him, just like with Priest. TD was fortunate to at least play on a team that had a balanced attack and a Hall of Fame QB. I guess he should probably go in.

But you gotta give the Priest some love. Had it not been for the worst defensive performances during his time, we could be talking about Priest with another SB ring to go with the one he got from the Ravens and an MVP as well…and then he would not be an argument for a Hall of Fame bid. Especially if TD would get the nod. Oh well, coulda shoulda woulda…

cdcox
02-05-2007, 12:18 PM
Neither player deserves the HOF.

InChiefsHell
02-05-2007, 12:21 PM
Neither player deserves the HOF.

Agreed, I was just illustrating to him that if TD gets in, then Priest should get it...basically I was pointing out the absurdity of it.

scott free
02-05-2007, 12:24 PM
Its a tough call IMO, but i would have to say Priest > Terrell by a slim margin.

Like you say, if Priest had had the benefit of a solid D during that time we would likely have multiple Super Bowls.

Davis was great though, very powerful for his size, outstanding vision & was just as fast as he needed to be in a given situation.

InChiefsHell
02-05-2007, 12:26 PM
Its a tough call IMO, but i would have to say Priest > Terrell by a slim margin.

Like you say, if Priest had had the benefit of a solid D during that time we would likely have multiple Super Bowls.

Davis was great though, very powerful for his size, outstanding vision & was just as fast as he needed to be in a given situation.

Agreed. I had all the respect in the world for TD. He played the first SB with a migrane headache, almost the whole game and still kicked ass. He was a tough, fast great back. But Priest was better, just minus the SB success.

scott free
02-05-2007, 12:32 PM
Agreed. I had all the respect in the world for TD. He played the first SB with a migrane headache, almost the whole game and still kicked ass.

Yep, he was an extremely likeable guy...team oriented, gutsy & super friendly.

CoMoChief
02-05-2007, 12:38 PM
TD started and won 2 SB's and was a SB MVP. He gets in before Priest.

I dont think Priest will ever get in unless he comes back and gets 15 more TD's over the next couple seasons to get him over that 100TD mark. Even with that I think its a long shot.

InChiefsHell
02-05-2007, 12:47 PM
TD started and won 2 SB's and was a SB MVP. He gets in before Priest.

I dont think Priest will ever get in unless he comes back and gets 15 more TD's over the next couple seasons to get him over that 100TD mark. Even with that I think its a long shot.

Agreed to a point, but how many SB championships did Marino win? Or Barry Sanders? Obviously, SB victories are a part of it, but IMO you have to look at the whole picture of their careers and what they did on the field. They are very similar, to say the least. Priest did more in the time he had, but did not get to the SB, which is the only thing that would hurt him when comparing him with TD. That said, I still don't think either of them are HOFers. Great great players, but not HOFers.

greg63
02-05-2007, 12:51 PM
...Speaking for myself only when I say; I dont care.






That is all.

ferrarispider95
02-05-2007, 12:53 PM
Hall of Fame is a sham.

InChiefsHell
02-05-2007, 12:53 PM
...Speaking for myself only when I say; I dont care.






That is all.

Thanks for that insight! :thumb:

Chief Chief
02-05-2007, 01:05 PM
In your comparison, ya forgot to state the obvious:

The Bonkos are cheaters!

InChiefsHell
02-05-2007, 01:10 PM
In your comparison, ya forgot to state the obvious:

The Bonkos are cheaters!


:) Indeed, but when arguing with a Donk fan, who is also your friend, sometimes you need to omit a little bit of the truth in order to be civil...

sedated
02-05-2007, 01:12 PM
rings

InChiefsHell
02-05-2007, 01:15 PM
rings

Barry Sanders.

CoMoChief
02-05-2007, 01:22 PM
Agreed to a point, but how many SB championships did Marino win? Or Barry Sanders? Obviously, SB victories are a part of it, but IMO you have to look at the whole picture of their careers and what they did on the field. They are very similar, to say the least. Priest did more in the time he had, but did not get to the SB, which is the only thing that would hurt him when comparing him with TD. That said, I still don't think either of them are HOFers. Great great players, but not HOFers.


You cant make that argument with those players because those are players that no matter what were gonna be first ballot HOF'ers because they were the top 3 at their position in the history of the game.

Priest and TD dont have the numbers nor longevity that Sanders had. TD was a SB MVP, and besides being selected in the HOF, that arguably could be the 2nd or 3rd highest award in the NFL. There have only been 41 of them (unless they started doing SB MVP later on after SB already began).

Should I remind you that TD is one of a handful of RB's to rush over 2000 yards in a season. You could make an argument for Priest's TD record, but that was broken shortly later. TD's best season was also better than Priest's best season. Priest had 4 more total TD's but TD had 600 more rushing yrds.

TD should get in before Priest. I loved what Priest has done for KC, but I dont think he deserves to be in anything more than the KC ring of fame. Of course you never know whats gonna happen because the HOF selection committee are a bunch of baffoons.

InChiefsHell
02-05-2007, 01:57 PM
You cant make that argument with those players because those are players that no matter what were gonna be first ballot HOF'ers because they were the top 3 at their position in the history of the game.

Priest and TD dont have the numbers nor longevity that Sanders had. TD was a SB MVP, and besides being selected in the HOF, that arguably could be the 2nd or 3rd highest award in the NFL. There have only been 41 of them (unless they started doing SB MVP later on after SB already began).

Should I remind you that TD is one of a handful of RB's to rush over 2000 yards in a season. You could make an argument for Priest's TD record, but that was broken shortly later. TD's best season was also better than Priest's best season. Priest had 4 more total TD's but TD had 600 more rushing yrds.

TD should get in before Priest. I loved what Priest has done for KC, but I dont think he deserves to be in anything more than the KC ring of fame. Of course you never know whats gonna happen because the HOF selection committee are a bunch of baffoons.


Excellent points. I'm not saying that TD is a piece of crap or anything. I'm just saying you look at the entire career, and others who have made it to the Hall, and I don't see that TD is THAT much head and shoulders over Priest. And I'd say it again, neither of them are HOF material. If TD had not gotten injured and had his career shortened, who knows? But the same could be said for Priest as well...


...plus I am a blind homer beotch!! :p

Mile High Mania
02-05-2007, 02:01 PM
Also, those #'s from that site don't show the post season body of work... more than the 2 titles and MVP. Davis has better "playoff" numbers than many RBs that are in the HOF, just check it out.

Postseason data
Year Opp Result | RSH YD TD | REC YD TD
1996 jax (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/jax1996.htm) L,27-30 | 14 91 1 | 7 24 0
1997 jax (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/jax1997.htm) W,42-17 | 31 184 2 | 4 11 0
1997 kan (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/kan1997.htm) W,14-10 | 25 101 2 | 1 17 0
1997 pit (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/pit1997.htm) W,24-21 | 26 139 1 | 1 2 0*
1997 gnb (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/gnb1997.htm) W,31-24 | 30 157 3 | 2 8 0
1998 mia (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/mia1998.htm) W,38-3 | 21 199 2 | 1 7 0
1998 nyj (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyj1998.htm) W,23-10 | 32 167 1 | 1 12 0*
1998 atl (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/atl1998.htm) W,34-19 | 25 102 0 | 2 50 0

TOTAL | 204 1140 12 | 19 131 0

Injury ended his career way too early, very sad.

Mile High Mania
02-05-2007, 02:05 PM
Overall, it's an odd comparison with these two players... 108 games vs 81, and the final 3 years of Davis' career were really nothing due to the battling of injuries. Again, very sad.

InChiefsHell
02-05-2007, 02:08 PM
Overall, it's an odd comparison with these two players... 108 games vs 81, and the final 3 years of Davis' career were really nothing due to the battling of injuries. Again, very sad.

Agreed. The site does show their post season stats though, which is why I stated in my analysis that TD owns Priest in the post season. Who knows what TD could have done had he not been injured, but the same can be said of Priest. Shoulda coulda I suppose.

So, do YOU believe that TD is worthy of the hall?

Mile High Mania
02-05-2007, 02:09 PM
Well, that site lists the postseason down below in another group.

InChiefsHell
02-05-2007, 02:10 PM
Well, that site lists the postseason down below in another group.

Yeah, I've never understood why post season is split away from regular season...it probably isn't when it comes to HOF voting.

tk13
02-05-2007, 02:11 PM
I think Priest would have to come back and add some numbers to his career totals to get in.

That said, there isn't a RB ahead of him on the scoring list that isn't going to the HOF. That's probably his biggest accomplishment, how many TD's he scored. RB's who have scored more rushing TD's than Priest:

Emmitt Smith
Marcus Allen
Walter Payton
Jim Brown
John Riggins
Marshall Faulk
L. Tomlinson
Barry Sanders
Shaun Alexander
Jerome Bettis
Franco Harris
Curtis Martin
Eric Dickerson

That is really impressive. If he could've just made it through the 2nd half of 2004 he probably would be over 100 and have a really good case.

Mile High Mania
02-05-2007, 02:12 PM
I can make an argument either way ... I can point to Gayle Sayers and use that as the easy defense as to why. I totally understand the longevity aspect, but when I hear people talk (and this was even 1-2 year ago) that if Tom Brady retired today or any time in the last 2 years... he would be a HOF'er... then I say "ok, if that works for Brady, it should work for Davis".

It's a battle I don't care to fight, but it is good debate. I'd also be up for making a case for Rod Smith, but again... I'll hold off on that one for now.

scott free
02-05-2007, 02:14 PM
I'd also be up for making a case for Rod Smith, but again... I'll hold off on that one for now.

I'm willing to bet that Rod gets in, maybe not 1st ballot but he'll get in.

Mile High Mania
02-05-2007, 02:16 PM
I'm willing to bet that Rod gets in, maybe not 1st ballot but he'll get in.

We'll see what happens. It's a shame that Monk may never get in... at the time he retired, I believe he was the career leading receiver in a number of the top WR stat categories.

I know - it's not all about stats, but we're talking about the NFL HOF... who knows what the real criteria is sometimes.

InChiefsHell
02-05-2007, 02:19 PM
We'll see what happens. It's a shame that Monk may never get in... at the time he retired, I believe he was the career leading receiver in a number of the top WR stat categories.

I know - it's not all about stats, but we're talking about the NFL HOF... who knows what the real criteria is sometimes.

That's the rub...who knows what criteria they actually use, and a lot of it may just be the amount of passion that the voters have for a certain player.

Shannon Sharpe will get in, as will Rod Smith.

Cochise
02-05-2007, 02:21 PM
Neither of them should be in the hall.

UL Washington
02-05-2007, 02:26 PM
When the cold hard numbers aren't there to make you a shoe in people start looking at things like super bowls MVPs and SUper Bowl wins.

When you played on a team that never did squat in the playoffs during your run people tend to forget.

People remember who won the Super Bowl, not who dominated in week 10.

I'll leave it at that.

Sad but true if you take off the homer glasses.

greg63
02-05-2007, 06:24 PM
Thanks for that insight! :thumb:

LMAO

Hey, that's what I'm here for. :D

OnTheWarpath58
02-05-2007, 08:51 PM
It's the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of Very Good for a Short Time.

Neither belongs in Canton.

HMc
02-05-2007, 09:00 PM
David Terrell for HOF!!!!!!11111

88TG88
02-05-2007, 09:02 PM
did priest get a ring in baltimore or did he leave just before ?

HMc
02-05-2007, 09:10 PM
yeah he did

Demonpenz
02-05-2007, 11:42 PM
if you watch the tape he actually started for them

el borracho
02-06-2007, 12:21 AM
Neither should be in, IMO, but if either has a chance it would be Davis because of his postseason success and his 2k yards in a season.

CHENZ A!
02-06-2007, 01:10 AM
I hated him but damn TD was tough, he always fell forward. and he beat us at home. and us with Priest never beat them out there in donk land. i just think priest was a better reciever, and he had a better nose for the goal.

Taco John
02-06-2007, 01:45 AM
I personally believe that TD will make it in due time. His 2000 yard season combined with back-to-back Superbowl wins (that included a Superbowl MVP) will be enough fuel. The fact is, Davis accomplished in a short amount of time what some of his peers who are already in the hall never accomplished, and he did it in dominating fashion, especially in the post-season, where he broke John Riggins record for consecutive 100 rushing yard postseason games.

I think Davis will get in based on his body of work in the post season (which outclasses most of the runningbacks who are already in the hall), combined with his 2000 yard season.

SPchief
02-06-2007, 02:00 AM
I personally believe that TD will make it in due time. His 2000 yard season combined with back-to-back Superbowl wins (that included a Superbowl MVP) will be enough fuel. The fact is, Davis accomplished in a short amount of time what some of his peers who are already in the hall never accomplished, and he did it in dominating fashion, especially in the post-season, where he broke John Riggins record for consecutive 100 rushing yard postseason games.

I think Davis will get in based on his body of work in the post season (which outclasses most of the runningbacks who are already in the hall), combined with his 2000 yard season.


It's absolutly possible.



What is your opinion on DT though?

Buck
02-06-2007, 02:02 AM
I didnt read through anything but the first post, but neither are HOF worthy...yet. If Priest somehow comes back and amazes for a few years, then he will be, but for now he is not.

HonestChieffan
02-06-2007, 07:42 AM
Both not HOF

HerculesRockefell
02-06-2007, 08:40 AM
So, do YOU believe that TD is worthy of the hall?

I do, and I think it's his playoff accomplishments that should sepearate him from a lot of guys who have better regular season numbers.

Also, those #'s from that site don't show the post season body of work... more than the 2 titles and MVP. Davis has better "playoff" numbers than many RBs that are in the HOF, just check it out.

Postseason data
Year Opp Result | RSH YD TD | REC YD TD
1996 jax (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/jax1996.htm) L,27-30 | 14 91 1 | 7 24 0
1997 jax (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/jax1997.htm) W,42-17 | 31 184 2 | 4 11 0
1997 kan (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/kan1997.htm) W,14-10 | 25 101 2 | 1 17 0
1997 pit (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/pit1997.htm) W,24-21 | 26 139 1 | 1 2 0*
1997 gnb (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/gnb1997.htm) W,31-24 | 30 157 3 | 2 8 0
1998 mia (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/mia1998.htm) W,38-3 | 21 199 2 | 1 7 0
1998 nyj (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyj1998.htm) W,23-10 | 32 167 1 | 1 12 0*
1998 atl (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/atl1998.htm) W,34-19 | 25 102 0 | 2 50 0

TOTAL | 204 1140 12 | 19 131 0

Injury ended his career way too early, very sad.

That's just 8 playoff games. In 8 games, he's at the top in:
100-yd games (Tied with Emmitt, ES did it in 18 games), consecutive 100-yd games, and YPC (5.59). I've never seen the official stat, but I have to guess that his 142.5 ypg is the highest in league history too. 1140 in 8 games in the playoffs against some of the best defenses in the league each time, that's unreal.

I see the arguments that his career was too short, but those are dominating statistics in the playoffs and I think that should put him over the top. I doubt he ever gets in though.

PHANTOM
02-06-2007, 09:32 AM
You cannot compare total numbers – TD really only played 4 seasons.

How about average numbers – TD 81 games and 7607 yards = 93.9 yards per game – find another RB with that average. Those number actually went down when he tried to come back after his injury for 2 or 3 seasons. During his first 4 seasons – prior to the injury, he averaged 105 yards per game – I don’t know if you’ll find any back in the modern era with that average for multiple seasons.

PH – had 74.3 yards per game.



TD was not only a two time Super Bowl winner and SB MVP he was also the LEAGUE MVP. I would fathom to guess that most LEAGUE MVP are up for HOF consideration. League MVP is more prestigious that SB MVP, because he was the best player in the game.


PH was good, but TD could have been the best to ever play RB. We’ll never know because his career was cut short.

As for HOF – TD was in the final 25 balloting in his first year of eligibility – this year.



It is just an opinion, you are entitled to your’s, but I think you’d find more people agreeing with mine on this one, especially non-biased fans that watched both players play.

PHANTOM
02-06-2007, 09:33 AM
More perspective:

Ave yards per game over their career:



Ladianian Tomlinson 96.5

Terrel Davis 93.9

Edgerrin James 92.7

Larry Johnson 87.6

Shuan Alexander 82.1

Corey Dillion 74.9

Priest Holmes 74.3

Tiki Barber 67.8



Not to pick and choose – but before his injury TD was averaging 105 yds per game, that is an unbelievable stat.

PHANTOM
02-06-2007, 09:39 AM
Since I'm the Broncos fan mentioned in the post - I had to get my two cents in. Don't worry Chiefs Hell, I'll invite you over again. My point was three Broncos were in the final 25 and 0 got in this year. Gary Zimmerman was a bigger slap in the face - look up his numbers sometime. This was TDs first year of eligibility, so it is understandable that he did not get in. And it was YOU, my friend that brought up Priest Holmes in comparison.

InChiefsHell
02-06-2007, 10:01 AM
Since I'm the Broncos fan mentioned in the post - I had to get my two cents in. Don't worry Chiefs Hell, I'll invite you over again. My point was three Broncos were in the final 25 and 0 got in this year. Gary Zimmerman was a bigger slap in the face - look up his numbers sometime. This was TDs first year of eligibility, so it is understandable that he did not get in. And it was YOU, my friend that brought up Priest Holmes in comparison.

Um, actually I believe it was the "other" Bronco fan, and in any case, I wasn't saying Priest should go to the Hall. As I recall, I said something along the lines that I didn't think TD should go, and the "other" fan said something along the lines of "Oh, what, Priest should go?"

You know how it goes when we all get to drinkin'... :) For all I know, I did bring him up, but I don't remember it that way. The booze was flowing. Excellent party as always, btw.

Rain Man
02-06-2007, 10:08 AM
More perspective:

Ave yards per game over their career:



Ladianian Tomlinson 96.5

Terrel Davis 93.9

Edgerrin James 92.7

Larry Johnson 87.6

Shuan Alexander 82.1

Corey Dillion 74.9

Priest Holmes 74.3

Tiki Barber 67.8



Not to pick and choose – but before his injury TD was averaging 105 yds per game, that is an unbelievable stat.


Try games as a starter.

PHANTOM
02-06-2007, 10:16 AM
Knock yourself out ... I have money it won't be better than TDs average.

TDs career average is skewed by post injury stats as well. It was 105 per game pre injury. Find another back in the modern era with a better average - remove backup stats, post injury stats, whatever. If there is one, I bet he will be in the HOF.

HerculesRockefell
02-06-2007, 10:31 AM
TDs career average is skewed by post injury stats as well. It was 105 per game pre injury. Find another back in the modern era with a better average - remove backup stats, post injury stats, whatever. If there is one, I bet he will be in the HOF.

There shouldn't be anyone. Jim Brown and TD up until his injuries were the only two backs who averaged more than 100 ypg.

Mile High Mania
02-06-2007, 10:52 AM
I was thinking Barry Sanders did as well, but his was just over 99 yds per game.

InChiefsHell
02-06-2007, 11:37 AM
I was thinking Barry Sanders did as well, but his was just over 99 yds per game.

Wow. And that's over like 10 years isn't it? No wonder HE'S in the hall...