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BigRedChief
02-09-2007, 09:13 AM
Player cap numbers from Adam Teicher of the KC Star:
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/football/nfl/kansas_city_chiefs/16657380.htm

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/football/nfl/kansas_city_chiefs/16657983.htm

The Chiefs have 60 players under contract. Only the highest 51 salary-cap numbers are counted against the NFL limit when the league year begins. The total for those 51 players is $98,441,012.


Pos. Player 2007 base salary 2007 salary cap figure*
CB Patrick Surtain $4,650,000 $9,364,375
QB Trent Green $7,200,000 $9,148,808
G Brian Waters $720,000 $5,220,000
CB Ty Law $3,000,000 $5,050,000
OT Willie Roaf $3,500,000 $4,846,904
WR Eddie Kennison $2,150,000 $4,738,333
TE Tony Gonzalez $1,000,000 $4,531,370
LB Kendrell Bell $3,037,500 $4,487,500
DE Eric Hicks $2,900,000 $4,450,000
S Greg Wesley $2,700,000 $3,966,666
C Casey Wiegmann $2,435,000 $3,635,000
DT Ryan Sims $1,901,000 $3,063,202
S Sammy Knight $2,000,000 $2,815,000
RB Priest Holmes $870,000 $2,450,804
RB Larry Johnson $1,900,000 $2,422,854
G Will Shields $1,200,000 $2,272,500
LB Derrick Johnson $665,000 $2,130,000
KR Dante Hall $1,500,000 $1,975,000
S William Bartee $1,400,000 $1,929,168
OL Chris Bober $1,215,000 $1,890,000
T John Welbourn $1,700,000 $1,706,720
DE Tamba Hali $360,000 $1,450,000
RB Michael Bennett $1,200,000 $1,250,000
TE Jason Dunn $770,000 $1,220,000
T Kyle Turley $1,000,000 $1,200,000
T Chris Terry $720,000 $770,000
FB Kris Wilson $510,000 $764,000
S Bernard Pollard $360,000 $625,000
WR Rod Gardner $595,000 $595,000
P Dustin Colquitt $435,000 $575,000
QB Brodie Croyle $360,000 $531,666
LB Boomer Grigsby $435,000 $482,500
DT Brian Howard $435,000 $435,000
T Will Svitek $435,000 $460,434
G Tre Stallings $360,000 $383,750
WR Jeff Webb $360,000 $382,500
S Jarrad Page $360,000 $371,958
CB Michael Bragg $360,000 $360,000
S Robb Butler $360,000 $360,000
WR Chris Hannon $360,000 $360,000
LB William Kershaw $360,000 $360,000
CB Marcus Maxey $360,000 $360,000
C Rudy Niswanger $360,000 $360,000
CB Zach Norton $360,000 $360,000
CB Dimitri Patterson $360,000 $360,000
RB Derrick Ross $360,000 $360,000
DT Tim Sandidge $360,000 $360,000
DT Steve Williams $360,000 $360,000
CB Gabriel Helms $310,000 $310,000
OL Ramiro Pruneda $285,000 $295,000
FB Greg Hanoian $285,000 $285,000
OL Rob Hunt $285,000 $285,000
QB Omar Jacobs $285,000 $285,000
TE Adam Johnson $285,000 $285,000
DE Montez Murphy $285,000 $285,000
CB Justin Phinisee $285,000 $285,000
QB Casey Printers $285,000 $285,000
LB Nick Reid $285,000 $285,000
TE Keith Willis $285,000 $285,000
LB Timi Wusu $285,000 $285,000

* includes various bonuses
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Released players from last year

The Chiefs have salary-cap obligations for 19 players released last year, including some who were later re-signed. The total for those players is $5,824,302.


Pos. Player Salary cap value
S Jerome Woods $2,650,001
DT John Browning $1,200,000
DT Junior Siavii $1,050,000
DT Lional Dalton $750,000
CB Marcus Maxey $82,134
QB Casey Printers $66,667
WR Chris Hannon $3,750
WR Danny Melendez $3,750
DT Alex Guerrero $2,500
CB Chris Johnson $2,500

Pos. Player Salary cap value

LB William Kershaw $2,500
RB Jake Slaughter $1,750
OL Steve Franklin $1,500
RB DeíArrius Howard$1,500
RB McKenzi Smith $1,500
LB Brandon Guillory $1,250
WR Jermaine Jamison $1,250
LB Nick Reid $1,000
TE Bob Docherty $750
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Unsigned players

The following 18 players have no 2007 contract:

DE Jared Allen

OT Jordan Black

RB Dee Brown

FB Ronnie Cruz

DT Ron Edwards

LB Keyaron Fox

LS Kendall Gammon

LB Kris Griffin

QB Damon Huard

LB Kawika Mitchell

WR Samie Parker

DT James Reed

OT Kevin Sampson

CB Benny Sapp

LB Rich Scanlon

BigRedChief
02-09-2007, 09:14 AM
Five players in particular account for more than 20 percent of the Chiefsí salary-cap obligations:
QB Trent Green >> $9,148,808
Target for restructured contract
LB Kendrell Bell >> $4,487,500
Hasnít lived up to expectations
DE Eric Hicks >> $4,450,000
Days as a starter are over
DT Ryan Sims >> $3,063,202
Very shaky job status
RB Priest Holmes >> $2,450,804
Hasnít played since October 2005

htismaqe
02-09-2007, 09:15 AM
Unless you got those numbers from the team or the NFLPA, they are "educated guesses" and not "facts".

BigRedChief
02-09-2007, 09:19 AM
Unless you got those numbers from the team or the NFLPA, they are "educated guesses" and not "facts".
Links on there now. They are from the KC Star, Adam Teicher who we can assume got them from the NFLPA. If they are not accuarte he and the Star could be sued. No way the KC Star newspaper published these numbers without a solid resource.

htismaqe
02-09-2007, 09:25 AM
Links on there now. They are from the KC Star, Adam Teicher who we can assume got them from the NFLPA. If they are not accuarte he and the Star could be sued. No way the KC Star newspaper published these numbers without a solid resource.

I'm not saying they're not "accurate". I'm sure they're close to being correct, probably within 3-5%.

So much more goes into it than any of us, including Teicher, know and as such any talk of the salary cap should be taken with a grain of salt.

BigRedChief
02-09-2007, 09:30 AM
I'm not saying they're not "accurate". I'm sure they're close to being correct, probably within 3-5%.

So much more goes into it than any of us, including Teicher, know and as such any talk of the salary cap should be taken with a grain of salt.
WELLLLLL anyway they are as close to the correct numbers that me or you or anyone else on this board will ever see. So we can discuss some football here in this thead. Play Chiefs GM. Let the fun begin.

greg63
02-09-2007, 09:34 AM
...Too much reading; I'm lazy. Are we under or over the cap?

Woodrow Call
02-09-2007, 09:36 AM
Something needs to be done with Surtain. That is one heck of a cap number.

noa
02-09-2007, 09:37 AM
I thought Kendrell restructured his contract last year. I'm surprised his salary is still so high.
I hope we can get Priest to take less money if he's going to try to remain on the roster.

greg63
02-09-2007, 09:39 AM
I thought Kendrell restructured his contract last year. I'm surprised his salary is still so high.
I hope we can get Priest to take less money if he's going to try to remain on the roster.

Priest won't be back as a Chief.

BigRedChief
02-09-2007, 09:43 AM
Something needs to be done with Surtain. That is one heck of a cap number.
And what would that be? You think he will take a pay cut to help the team?ROFL
We can't afford to cut him so we are stuck.

Mr. Laz
02-09-2007, 09:48 AM
Unless you got those numbers from the team or the NFLPA, they are "educated guesses" and not "facts".
also doesn't include various types of bonuses that could be there






btw - nice spacing BRC .... my eyes are now bleeding. :)

BigRedChief
02-09-2007, 09:51 AM
btw - nice spacing BRC .... my eyes are now bleeding. :)
You take the time to format it then bub. :harumph:

StcChief
02-09-2007, 09:53 AM
You take the time to format it then bub. :harumph:

some would bitch if they were hung with a new rope.
:banghead:

BigRedChief
02-09-2007, 09:53 AM
also doesn't include various types of bonuses that could be thereYou guys reminde me of these posters on here when a pic of a beautiful women is posted that they say that they get better.

You just are not going to get more reliable public information about the Chiefs Salary cap than this. If its not accuarte enough for you inquiring taste you will have to join the Chiefs front office to get yourself up to speed on the "real" #'s.

htismaqe
02-09-2007, 09:56 AM
Play Chiefs GM.

Nah, I'd rather not.

When I "play" I prefer to pretend I'm somebody cool, like King Arthur or Angus Young. Carl Peterson just ain't that cool.

htismaqe
02-09-2007, 09:58 AM
You guys reminde me of these posters on here when a pic of a beautiful women is posted that they say that they get better.

You just are not going to get more reliable public information about the Chiefs Salary cap than this. If its not accuarte enough for you inquiring taste you will have to join the Chiefs front office to get yourself up to speed on the "real" #'s.

Nah...

Put me in the "nice picture, too bad you'll never get a woman like that" category.

Speculating about the salary cap is an exercise in futility.

Mr. Laz
02-09-2007, 10:39 AM
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/124/26486771mk4.jpg

B_Ambuehl
02-09-2007, 10:48 AM
Why is Roaf's salary on there?

Mr. Laz
02-09-2007, 10:50 AM
Why is Roaf's salary on there?
because they continue to hold out hope that Roaf will come back.



never put him on the retirement list

greg63
02-09-2007, 10:53 AM
because they continue to hold out hope that Roaf will come back.



never put him on the retirement list


He'll be back when Holmes returns. :rolleyes:

GoHuge
02-09-2007, 11:36 AM
Man that sucks seeing Wesley as a $4,000,000 terd. That brilliant Jerome Woods signing is still kicking us in the ass.

BigRedChief
02-09-2007, 11:40 AM
Nah, I'd rather not.

When I "play" I prefer to pretend I'm somebody cool, like King Arthur or Angus Young. Carl Peterson just ain't that cool.
Im partial to Roy Rogers myself...yippe ka aee muthfuka...
http://www.rickmanistareview.com/dhphotos/DH%20AR%201.jpg

BigRedChief
02-09-2007, 11:51 AM
Attributed to Teicher on another board.

Green costs them more than $9 million right now. If they cut him, he costs them about $4.9 or $5 million. If they designate him as a post-June 1 cut for cap purposes, he costs only about $1.65 this season and then about $3.3 next season. That's a pretty big savings, so they have a lot of leverage there.

Lzen
02-09-2007, 11:53 AM
Wow, oh wow. Where do we start? I would cut:

Hicks
Wesley
Sims
Hall
Bell
Bartee

That is, of course, assuming that cutting them won't cost the Chiefs more in salary cap hits this year.

Surtain and Green definitely need restructuring. Those figures are way too much for the actual production on the field. And what's the deal with Kennison? Is that a new contract or is that figure what he is making off the first contract he signed back in 2001? If that's the case, they need to restructure his, too. Holmes and Roaf should be gone. No sense in hanging on to players that have little to no chance of playing for you. Sammy Knight should be asked to take a pay cut, too. Time for Pollard and Page to take over, IMO.

BigRedChief
02-09-2007, 11:55 AM
Man that sucks seeing Wesley as a $4,000,000 terd. That brilliant Jerome Woods signing is still kicking us in the ass.
And the Bartee and Hicks ones also

Count Zarth
02-09-2007, 12:00 PM
I wonder how much we save by cutting Sims, Hicks, etc.

BigChiefFan
02-09-2007, 12:26 PM
Surtain's cap number is outrageous. Talk about not living up to their contract. I like Surtain, but I had no idea he was making that much money. He's way over-paid. That said the Chiefs had to do something to get CB help.

jspchief
02-09-2007, 12:47 PM
Five players in particular account for more than 20 percent of the Chiefsí salary-cap obligations:
QB Trent Green >> $9,148,808
Target for restructured contract
LB Kendrell Bell >> $4,487,500
Hasnít lived up to expectations
DE Eric Hicks >> $4,450,000
Days as a starter are over
DT Ryan Sims >> $3,063,202
Very shaky job status
RB Priest Holmes >> $2,450,804
Hasnít played since October 2005Nice little synopsis of why this organization cannot build a champion.

Mr. Laz
02-09-2007, 12:55 PM
I wonder how much we save by cutting Sims, Hicks, etc.
Salary cap # - base salary = X


X - Base salary = cap savings*

(*if done as a before june 1st cut)




june 1st cuts can be done in a 40/60,50/50 or 60/40 splits


that divides up the cap hit between the current year and the next

Chiefnj
02-09-2007, 01:06 PM
Salary cap # - base salary = X


X - Base salary = cap savings*

(*if done as a before june 1st cut)




june 1st cuts can be done in a 40/60,50/50 or 60/40 splits


that divides up the cap hit between the current year and the next

Isn't your calculation correct only if it is the final year of the contract? The difference between salary cap# and base# is the amount of bonus this year. If a player has 3 more years left on his contract then it would be 3 times that bonus amount since bonuses are spread out evenly on the length of the contract.

Chiefnj
02-09-2007, 01:07 PM
Wasn't there another article, maybe even by Teicher, about 2-3 weeks ago that said if the Chiefs cut the 5-6 most likely candidates it would COST them 30 million. Not save, but cost them that money. Anybody remember that?

Pushead2
02-09-2007, 01:16 PM
I love the fact we won't be big contenders in FA, I love being a Chief Fan......

htismaqe
02-09-2007, 01:18 PM
I love the fact we won't be big contenders in FA, I love being a Chief Fan......

Name the big-name, 1st-day free agents that helped their team in the playoffs.

Name just one.

Deberg_1990
02-09-2007, 01:19 PM
Name the big-name, 1st-day free agents that helped their team in the playoffs.

Name just one.



Reggie White

Terrel Owens

Deion Sanders

mcan
02-09-2007, 01:20 PM
I wonder how much we save by cutting Sims, Hicks, etc.


We save the WHOLE dollar amount of their base salary and half of the remaining balance (pro-rated bonus). That half will be applied to next years' salary cap though. (like Jerome Woods' bonus counts against us this year).

[EDIT] unless, there are SEVERAL more years remaining on their contract in which case we have to account for the pro-rated portion of the following years as well. [EDIT]

So, if we cut Eric Hicks we instantly save 2.9 million in base and half the leftovers (approx 800K) making a total savings of 3.7 million, and next year we would have an 800K hit against us. I expect this will probably happen since it's a big savings that can be better spent on Allen's new contract.

Cutting Sims saves us about 2.5 Million and next year we would get hit for about 500K.

But there are already some big savings with people that are already gone.

Willie Roaf: 4.2 Million in savings THIS year, and a 600K hit next
William Bartee: 1.6 Million in savings THIS year, and a 200K hit next


Then there are some cool things we can do with restructures on contracts like Surtain's. We can give him a new 4 year deal with a bonus around 9, and a low base for this year and next. Cut a couple million off of his number and keep him around for a few more years. We wouldn't want to restructure Trent because he's in his last year (most likely) and giving him a long contract means TROUBLE next year when we have to cut him and take a big hit for two years. Better for him to get a big check this year and retire. We'll only take a 1 million hit next year and another 1 million hit the following year.


The Chiefs are in GREAT shape going into free agency. Good enough that we might be able to lose a free agent or two and replace them with some big namers. Good enough that Jerrod Allen is going to get a 7 year deal... Hopefully with a clause that includes drinking and driving consequences.

Deberg_1990
02-09-2007, 01:22 PM
We wouldn't want to restructure Trent because he's in his last year (most likely) and giving him a long contract means TROUBLE next year when we have to cut him and take a big hit for two years. Better for him to get a big check this year and retire. We'll only take a 1 million hit next year and another 1 million hit the following year.




Wow, that kinda sucks..especially if hes not the starter in 07...

htismaqe
02-09-2007, 01:26 PM
Reggie White

Terrel Owens

Deion Sanders

What? You're kidding right?

Reggie White went to the Packers before free agency started.

Terrel Owens was TRADED to the Eagles. He certainly didn't help the Cowboys.

The only time Deion Sanders was a free agent was with the Redskins and that team finished 8-8.

Deberg_1990
02-09-2007, 01:28 PM
What? You're kidding right?

Reggie White went to the Packers before free agency started.

Terrel Owens was TRADED to the Eagles. He certainly didn't help the Cowboys.

The only time Deion Sanders was a free agent was with the Redskins and that team finished 8-8.

No, Reggie White was the 1st big name free agent in the modern era. 1990- now

TO was traded...your right there.

Deion was a free agent when he went to the Niners and won a ring....then the Cowboys and won a ring...

tk13
02-09-2007, 01:28 PM
Reggie White

Terrel Owens

Deion Sanders
TO actually didn't help his team in the playoffs...

Deberg_1990
02-09-2007, 01:32 PM
TO actually didn't help his team in the playoffs...

Yea your right.....he was injured that year but came back strong in the SB. He did however play a huge part in helping them win in the regular season.

htismaqe
02-09-2007, 01:32 PM
No, Reggie White was the 1st big name free agent in the modern era. 1990- now

TO was traded...your right there.

Deion was a free agent when he went to the Niners and won a ring....then the Cowboys and won a ring...

Plan B free agency started after the 1992 season and went on for two years.

Both Reggie White and Deion Sanders were Plan B.

The current free agency system started in 1995. Name someone in the modern era.

htismaqe
02-09-2007, 01:33 PM
Yea your right.....he was injured that year but came back strong in the SB. He did however play a huge part in helping them win in the regular season.

And he was traded for.

If you want to trade for a player, great, I've got no problem with that.

But big name free agents are Fool's Gold.

noa
02-09-2007, 01:38 PM
Name the big-name, 1st-day free agents that helped their team in the playoffs.

Name just one.

Was Rich Gannon a 1st-day signing?

CosmicPal
02-09-2007, 01:39 PM
Who the fugg is LB Timi Wusu $285,000 ?

An awful lot of money for someone I didn't know was a Chief.

Deberg_1990
02-09-2007, 01:41 PM
The current free agency system started in 1995. Name someone in the modern era.

Rodney Harrison? Corey Dillon??


Priest Holmes?? I guess he never technically helped the Chiefs win in the playoffs did he?

Baconeater
02-09-2007, 01:42 PM
And he was traded for.

If you want to trade for a player, great, I've got no problem with that.

But big name free agents are Fool's Gold.
I tend to agree with that, if those players were so valuable their current teams wouldn't have allowed them to become free agents in the first place.

But then again, I'm also the type of person who doesn't get in a hormone-induced dither every time I see a big-boobed blond bimbo.

BigRedChief
02-09-2007, 01:45 PM
I tend to agree with that, if those players were so valuable their current teams wouldn't have allowed them to become free agents in the first place.

But then again, I'm also the type of person who doesn't get in a hormone-induced dither every time I see a big-boobed blond bimbo.
Nice cross thread humor :clap:

Woodrow Call
02-09-2007, 01:49 PM
Who the fugg is LB Timi Wusu $285,000 ?

An awful lot of money for someone I didn't know was a Chief.

Signed last week with Jacobs and a few others. LB/S at Stanford, was with Oak and Carolina last year.

htismaqe
02-09-2007, 01:56 PM
Rodney Harrison? Corey Dillon??


Priest Holmes?? I guess he never technically helped the Chiefs win in the playoffs did he?

Priest Holmes was acquired the night before the draft, a full two months after free agency started, and he was signed to a miniscule deal. He only qualifies as "big name" in hingsight - the move was almost unanimously derided here on this board.

Rodney Harrison is a decent example, he signed 10 days into free agency in 2003.

Corey Dillon was traded.

BigChiefFan
02-09-2007, 01:59 PM
I'm sure Drew Brees went in the first wave of FA last year.

Halfcan
02-09-2007, 02:01 PM
Five players in particular account for more than 20 percent of the Chiefsí salary-cap obligations:
QB Trent Green >> $9,148,808
Target for restructured contract
LB Kendrell Bell >> $4,487,500
Hasnít lived up to expectations
DE Eric Hicks >> $4,450,000
Days as a starter are over
DT Ryan Sims >> $3,063,202
Very shaky job status
RB Priest Holmes >> $2,450,804
Hasnít played since October 2005

Yep time to trim the fat.

htismaqe
02-09-2007, 02:01 PM
I'm sure Drew Brees went in the first wave of FA last year.

Traded.

Cave Johnson
02-09-2007, 02:05 PM
Traded.

That's a big no.

jspchief
02-09-2007, 02:07 PM
It's really of no consequence whether other teams have found succes through FA. The Chiefs have a steady record of busting in that category, so unless we're going to bring in someone else's GM and scouting department, I don't expect much to change.

At the same time, every year we hear Carl name play-off/superbowl teams as the model of how they want to build through the draft, never acknowledging that the Chiefs are missing two ingredients in that recipe. A few dismal seasons to net some higher picks, and the ability to evaluate college talent.

BigChiefFan
02-09-2007, 02:10 PM
It's really of no consequence whether other teams have found succes through FA. The Chiefs have a steady record of busting in that category, so unless we're going to bring in someone else's GM and scouting department, I don't expect much to change.

At the same time, every year we hear Carl name play-off/superbowl teams as the model of how they want to build through the draft, never acknowledging that the Chiefs are missing two ingredients in that recipe. A few dismal seasons to net some higher picks, and the ability to evaluate college talent.
Free agency is still part of the game and teams can and do get better by picking FAs. The Chiefs would rather make excuses rather than go after the premier FAs in most cases. No one can tell me Lance Briggs wouldn't bolster our LBing corp.

Pushead2
02-09-2007, 02:19 PM
I agree FA and the draft are always hits and misses , that doesn't mean you just give up all together and rule it out, we are FAR from the Colts or the Bears....

htismaqe
02-09-2007, 02:22 PM
Free agency is still part of the game and teams can and do get better by picking FAs. The Chiefs would rather make excuses rather than go after the premier FAs in most cases. No one can tell me Lance Briggs wouldn't bolster our LBing corp.

First you say "free agents" and then you say "premier free agents".

There's a HUGE difference.

htismaqe
02-09-2007, 02:22 PM
That's a big no.

You're right. He was tagged the year BEFORE he left.

Deberg_1990
02-09-2007, 02:26 PM
It's really of no consequence whether other teams have found succes through FA. The Chiefs have a steady record of busting in that category, so unless we're going to bring in someone else's GM and scouting department, I don't expect much to change.

At the same time, every year we hear Carl name play-off/superbowl teams as the model of how they want to build through the draft, never acknowledging that the Chiefs are missing two ingredients in that recipe. A few dismal seasons to net some higher picks, and the ability to evaluate college talent.


I think most fans have given up hope by now that Carl can ever get us to the big dance. Hes pretty much become a running joke at this point....i guess the best we can hope for is to wide out the wave with this chump a few more years until he steps down....

htismaqe
02-09-2007, 02:50 PM
I think most fans have given up hope by now that Carl can ever get us to the big dance. Hes pretty much become a running joke at this point....i guess the best we can hope for is to wide out the wave with this chump a few more years until he steps down....

Yep.

And that's all the more reason to concentrate on the draft and forget free agency.

Free agency is for the "now". A few solid draft sets the next regime up VERY nicely.

Woodrow Call
02-09-2007, 02:55 PM
Yep.

And that's all the more reason to concentrate on the draft and forget free agency.

Free agency is for the "now". A few solid draft sets the next regime up VERY nicely.

I agree. If Herm can draft well these next few years, the next coach/GM will have a good young team to start with. Basically what happened with the Jets this year.

Logical
02-09-2007, 05:43 PM
Free agent that helped team win in playoffs.

Drew Brees

Logical
02-09-2007, 05:44 PM
Traded.Nope

Brock
02-09-2007, 05:48 PM
Traded.


Nay!

HMc
02-09-2007, 06:02 PM
What about Deion going to the cowboys? was that also a trade, parker?

HMc
02-09-2007, 06:10 PM
are these numbers useful without knpw how many years of bonus pro-ration they have remaining on the contracts? i mean i guess you could figure it out from when they signed. im talkin outta my ass aswell maybe

milkman
02-09-2007, 06:46 PM
Yep.

And that's all the more reason to concentrate on the draft and forget free agency.

Free agency is for the "now". A few solid draft sets the next regime up VERY nicely.

This is exactly how I think we should proceed.

Mecca
02-09-2007, 06:55 PM
I didn't even know we signed Omar Jacobs.....go sign a few WR's too guys.

htismaqe
02-09-2007, 07:30 PM
I already admitted my mistake on Drew Brees.

Congratulations, you all found ONE example and you're now repeating it over and over.

Find another. I dare you.

Count Zarth
02-09-2007, 07:32 PM
Mushin Muhammad?

Toad
02-09-2007, 08:01 PM
Wasn't there another article, maybe even by Teicher, about 2-3 weeks ago that said if the Chiefs cut the 5-6 most likely candidates it would COST them 30 million. Not save, but cost them that money. Anybody remember that?

Yeah. I think it was 7-8 players though. He did say "cost", but I think he meant that was the cost of accelerated bonuses - not the net savings.

htismaqe
02-09-2007, 08:04 PM
Mushin Muhammad?

Muhammad is an interesting one, he was definitely one of those "premier" guys - he got released by the Panthers and 12 hours later had a $30M deal with the Bears.

On the plus side of the argument, he was the leading receiver on a Super Bowl team.

On the other side, he only had 60 catches. He signed with the Bears after a 1400-yard, 16-TD season. He's had 1613 yards and just 9 TDs in the two seasons since.

Count Zarth
02-09-2007, 08:40 PM
Yeah but consider the quarterbacks.

Anyway overall I think you are right. It doesn't happen often.

HMc
02-09-2007, 08:45 PM
Deion going to the boys?

BigRedChief
02-10-2007, 12:39 AM
This is exactly how I think we should proceed.
I third that motion but they don't read this or listen to us

PHOG
02-10-2007, 02:04 AM
Yep.

... A few solid draft sets the next regime up VERY nicely.

CP will have none of that. :shake:

crazycoffey
02-10-2007, 02:59 AM
if the numbers are true, it sounds like we could be better off than we are now.....

BigRedChief
02-10-2007, 11:11 AM
if the numbers are true, it sounds like we could be better off than we are now.....
Everyone is setting good. The cap increases $25 million next year.

Baconeater
02-10-2007, 11:13 AM
if the numbers are true, it sounds like we could be better off than we are now.....
Just because we have the cap room doesn't mean we'll spend the money.

Mr. Laz
02-10-2007, 01:33 PM
Just because we have the cap room doesn't mean we'll spend the money.
we didn't last year


"we have cap room, but we still have to be aware of other financial concerns"
~Carl Peterson 2006~


he said something like that

htismaqe
02-10-2007, 01:35 PM
we didn't last year


"we have cap room, but we still have to be aware of other financial concerns"
~Carl Peterson 2006~


he said something like that

"we have cap room, but we still have to be aware of other financial concerns" equals "we can't sign free agents, even though we have cap room, because the owner doesn't like signing bonuses"

Count Zarth
02-10-2007, 03:51 PM
Even then, we had a decent year in FA.

Mr. Laz
02-10-2007, 03:53 PM
"we have cap room, but we still have to be aware of other financial concerns" equals "we can't sign free agents, even though we have cap room, because the owner doesn't like signing bonuses"
yep

booger
02-10-2007, 10:24 PM
I didn't realize Fox was a FA. Must be a restricted FA?

BigRedChief
02-10-2007, 10:47 PM
"we have cap room, but we still have to be aware of other financial concerns" equals "we can't sign free agents, even though we have cap room, because the owner doesn't like signing bonuses"
Damnit Carl! :cuss:

booger
02-10-2007, 10:50 PM
Hence the naming rights discussion.

milkman
02-11-2007, 07:17 AM
If I were GM, this is what I would do.

Over the next two to three seasons I would release the following.

Surtain
Green
Law
Kennison
Bell
Hicks
Wesley
Sims
Knight
Hall
Bartee
Bober
Wellbourn
Dunn
Turley
Gardner

I'd resign Jared Allen

I'd try to resign for depth, or to start until I can replace,
Kawika Mitchell
Ron Edwards
James Reed

In the draft, I'd try to find trade partners to pick up a couple of extra picks, and I would only sign low price free agents to short term deals to fill out the roster while I build the core group through the draft.

boogblaster
02-11-2007, 07:46 AM
Clean house from top to bottom..just as good of a chance as what we already have.....Carl leaves first..today would be fine.....

jspchief
02-11-2007, 02:45 PM
"we have cap room, but we still have to be aware of other financial concerns" equals "we can't sign free agents, even though we have cap room, because the owner doesn't like signing bonuses"Might have a little something to do with that stadium thing.

I guess Hunt could just cheat the cap like Pat Bowlen did.

BigRedChief
02-11-2007, 10:09 PM
I guess Hunt could just cheat the cap like Pat Bowlen did.
FuK that. I'd rather not ever win a Super Bowl if I have to cheat to win it.

BigRedChief
02-12-2007, 07:47 AM
Never too early to look ahead to 2007 season
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By John Clayton
ESPN.com

The rich may not be able to get richer in 2007, but they sure have a great chance of staying rich.
The NFL is entering a different period of free agency. Plan B in the late 1980s was a preview. It gave teams the taste of being able to bid for players even though teams controlled the fate of more than 30 they wanted to keep. The early and mid-1990s offered the chance to experiment. Some experiments succeeded. Others failed. By 2000, it was pretty evident championship teams could be purchased through free agency.
The new era of free agency will turn more toward maintenance than acquisition. The cap increases to $109 million this year and there won't be enough top players in free agency to merit that much money.
The good news is that teams can keep most of their top free agents. The bad news is the price will go up.
This new world will create new strategies. Now, teams have the luxury of placing a franchise tag on their top free agents. The price of the top players to hit the market will skyrocket, making for a fast market at the start of March. It will be hard for any team to get more than two or three high-priced free agents.
Teams on the rise are the Titans, 49ers, Cardinals and possibly the Packers. The NFC West is rapidly improving. The NFC North is the league's worst division.
The league is also heading into a period of coaching instability. As many as 11 franchises have coaches on the hot seat.
Here's a look ahead at the 2007 season.
Arizona Cardinals (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=ari)
Cap room: $32.1 million
New head coach Ken Whisenhunt had the finances to hire a good staff. Having Russ Grimm coaching the offensive line and Clancy Pendergast on defense is a good way to start. The team is getting closer. Matt Leinart (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7759) has Larry Fitzgerald (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6762), Anquan Boldin (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6390) and Bryant Johnson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6353) to work the passing offense. The offensive line came together late in the 2006 season when Nick Leckey (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6926) took over at center and Reggie Wells (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6513) moved to right tackle. That should open more holes for halfback Edgerrin James (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4652). Grimm is a master at building a good offensive line. The Cardinals expect to lose left tackle Leonard Davis (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5449) to San Francisco or Dallas, so they will be in the market for the left tackle. They will probably make a run at Bears defensive tackle Ian Scott (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6452) to help their interior defensive line. They could also look for a strongside linebacker. Other than Davis, they shouldn't lose many of their 14 unrestricted free agents. Whisenhunt also benefits from having the NFC's easiest schedule.
Atlanta Falcons (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=atl)
Cap room: $3.8 million
New head coach Bobby Petrino's biggest mission is getting the most out of QB Michael Vick (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5448). He plans to add audibles to the playbook. He wants to give Vick more options. This is an important year for Vick because the Falcons have to figure out if he is going to get them back to the playoffs. It will be interesting to see what Petrino does with the offensive line. Center Todd McClure (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4887), guard Kynan Forney (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5667) and tackle Todd Weiner (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4306) are better suited for a light, athletic Alex Gibbs-type offensive line. Gibbs is gone and the Falcons concede size. Petrino has only eight free agents and one of those is defensive end Patrick Kerney (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4679), whose contract was voided. Age is becoming a concern on defense. Lawyer Milloy (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3572) will be 33. Keith Brooking (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4277) just turned 30. Kerney, John Abraham (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5042), Rod Coleman (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4803) and Grady Jackson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4156) are also getting older. Petrino also has tough decisions to make at wide receiver. Ashley Lelie (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5905) probably won't be back. He's a free agent. Michael Jenkins (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6788) and Roddy White (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7203) haven't lit it up either. Edgerton Hartwell (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5574), the middle linebacker, could be a cap casualty after two injury-plagued seasons. Another concern is that is Warrick Dunn (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3893) is going to be 32, a dangerous age for a running back.
Baltimore Ravens (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=bal)
Cap room: $3.3 million
The move to go to QB Steve McNair (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3114) put the Ravens in the divisional playoffs last season and makes them a solid playoff candidate for this year. Changes on this team probably will be minimal. The Ravens have 10 free agents. The biggest name is linebacker Adalius Thomas (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5215). If they don't franchise him, he could leave for the 49ers and reunite with Mike Nolan, the former Ravens defensive coordinator. The Ravens could cut halfback Jamal Lewis (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5034) instead of giving him a $5 million roster bonus in March. If that happens, they would use a first- or second-round choice on a good, young running back. Ray Lewis (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3542) should be able to talk left tackle Jonathan Ogden (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3540) out of retiring. If Ogden doesn't return, the Ravens will drop another game or two. The line performed well but was shaky. Losing Ogden would be a major blow, but he should be back. Mike Flynn (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4053) is expected to restructure his contract and be a backup center. The Ravens have been drafting good, young receivers to go with Derrick Mason (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3988), who wasn't happy about the offense at the end of the season. Another key free agent is right tackle Tony Pashos (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6509), who played well toward the end of the season and could get a big payday.
Buffalo Bills (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=buf)
Cap room: $33 million
It's hard to tell whether the Bills are ready to jump the 8-8 hurdle. Dick Jauron brought an air of stability to the franchise last season. J.P. Losman (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6781) showed signs of being a promising young quarterback. But if the Bills make the wrong decisions in free agency, they will be in danger of sliding back. They figure to lose cornerback Nate Clements (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5468). They could lose linebacker London Fletcher (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4539) and defensive end Chris Kelsay (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6384). With $33 million of cap room, it's hard to believe they would lose anyone, but these are the decisions facing Jauron and general manager Marv Levy. Finding a replacement for Clements will be impossible in this market unless they get Asante Samuel (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6456) from New England. They will probably cut quarterback Kelly Holcomb (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3873). The Bills should be able to make some major upgrades along the offensive line. Mike Gandy (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5515) is a free agent, and the Bills have to decide if they want to keep Chris Villarrial (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3582) at guard. Through the draft and free agency, they have enough ammunition to improve the shaky blocking from last season. The line is the thinnest unit on the team.
Carolina Panthers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=chi)
Cap room: $1.8 million
John Fox doesn't have worries about his job, but 2007 is a make or break year for this franchise. Last year was supposed to be the Panthers' year to return to the Super Bowl. Instead they went 8-8 and Fox made three major changes on his coaching staff, including the firing of offensive coordinator Dan Henning and secondary coach Rod Perry. Several players -- defensive end Mike Rucker (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4687), wide receiver Keyshawn Johnson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3499), cornerback Ken Lucas (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5487) and safety Mike Minter (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3911) -- could be gone for cap reasons, although it's more likely the team will keep most of these guys for another playoff run. Dan Morgan (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5458) could also be gone if his concussion problems don't go away, but he at least has a chance to make it to the minicamps and training camp. Expect the Panthers to get a pass-catching tight end as they turn away from the Henning offense. Even though they won't have the cap room to be a big player in free agency, the Panthers usually rework enough contracts to get the things they want. They have 10 free agents.
Chicago Bears (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=chi)
Cap room: $16.8 million
This should be the third year of a four-season run for the Bears atop of the NFC North. They have only eight free agents and the cap room to franchise linebacker Lance Briggs (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6404) and prevent him from leaving. They want to re-sign guard Ruben Brown (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3161). Defensive tackle Ian Scott (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6452) might be the toughest to re-sign. Expect no cap cuts either. The Bears play in the easiest division, so their chances of going back to the Super Bowl are good. They have issues with the coaching staff, however. Lovie Smith is entering the final year of his contract and the team is nowhere close to getting a contract extension. The Bears got a break when the Cowboys hired Wade Phillips, allowing them the chance to keep Ron Rivera as defensive coordinator. Rivera would have been Norv Turner's defensive coordinator had Turner been offered the Cowboys' job. Expect little change with this team.
Cincinnati Bengals (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=cin)
Cap room: $18.7 million
The Bengals should be able to battle the Steelers and Ravens for the AFC North title as long as they clean up the off-the-field distractions. They have been embarrassed by nine arrests over the past year. Owner Mike Brown vows the team will stay away from players with bad pasts. There should be some significant changes on this team. The Bengals might cut cornerback Deltha O'Neal (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5044). They have to decide if they want to keep defensive tackles John Thornton (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4702) and Sam Adams (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=2825). The Bengals could be hit hard in free agency. They figure to lose guard Eric Steinbach (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6369). Defensive end Justin Smith (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5451) could leave. They may not re-sign cornerback Tory James (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3603), and have to make decisions on wide receiver Kelley Washington (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6401) and tight end Tony Stewart (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5595). Quarterback Carson Palmer (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6337) wants Reggie Kelly (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4691) to return, but the Bengals will be looking to upgrade the tight end position. Palmer should be 100 percent healed from his knee reconstruction. He had a Pro Bowl season playing at about 85 percent. Watch out for him next season.
Cleveland Browns (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=cle)
Cap room: $26.2 million
Romeo Crennel and general manager Phil Savage will be operating with a ghost hovering over them. Bill Cowher is available. Although Cowher says he wants to sit out two seasons, he could be lured away from his new North Carolina home for the chance to get full power in Cleveland. The whole organization has its future at stake this season. The first two years under Crennel have been disastrous. Owner Randy Lerner isn't happy. Neither are the fans. The defensive front seven is aging. Cornerback Gary Baxter (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5509) is coming off two major knee operations and probably will be cut. Right tackle Ryan Tucker (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4205) has been battling an undisclosed mental disorder. Center LeCharles Bentley (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5930) suffered a bad knee injury and developed an infection. Wide receiver Braylon Edwards (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7179) is a loose cannon and has off-the-field concerns. Tight end Kellen Winslow (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6765) is talented but not a great downfield threat because of his knee problem. Quarterback Charlie Frye (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7243) continues to get pounded behind a poor offensive line. The Browns could get lucky and have Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn fall to them. They have only eight free agents, including three offensive linemen -- Cosey Coleman (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5080), Hank Fraley (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5363) and Lennie Friedman (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4711). Unless there is a big jump with this team, Lerner may be pushing a lot of people out of the door.
Dallas Cowboys (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=dal)
Cap room: $18.2 million
Jerry Jones invested so much money in the 3-4 defense, he wanted to hire a defensive coach who knew the 3-4. Wade Phillips was his choice because he is one of the best 3-4 coaches in football. Phillips takes over a talented playoff team. We'll see how his good nature works with Terrell Owens (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3664), who drove Bill Parcells into retirement. There don't need to be a lot of changes on the team. The Cowboys have only seven free agents, but they should re-sign center Andre Gurode (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5923) after he went to the Pro Bowl. Phillips' biggest challenge is figuring out the offensive line. Marco Rivera (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3811) and Flozell Adams (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4298) are aging. Right tackle Marc Colombo (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5915) is a free agent. So is backup center Al Johnson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6374). The Cowboys might make a move for Leonard Davis of the Cardinals to add some bulk to the offensive line. Jason Garrett takes over as offensive coordinator and will try to get the most of out QB Tony Romo (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6624), who will have his first full season as the starting quarterback. Phillips will make a point of getting the defense to perform better on first and second downs. The Cowboys gave up the league's most yardage on first down. They rarely got pressure on quarterbacks on first and second downs. Phillips was hired to improve that.
Denver Broncos (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=den)
Cap room: $2.6 million
Mike Shanahan is shaking things up. He made some surprising changes on the coaching staff. The main move was replacing defensive coordinator Larry Coyer with Jim Bates. Bates runs an aggressive man-to-man defense. Expect some shakeups on the roster, too. Shanahan will try to trade quarterback Jake Plummer (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3895) to Houston now that Jay Cutler (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7760) is the starting quarterback. Major changes should happen on the defensive line. The Broncos are going away from the Cleveland defensive line. They fired the former Browns defensive line coach Andre Patterson, who coached the Broncos' former Browns the past two seasons. They are going to let defensive tackle Michael Myers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4330) test the free-agent market. Defensive tackle Gerard Warren (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5450) is the only sure anchor with Cleveland experience expected to return. The Broncos could trade right tackle George Foster (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6356), who has been a disappointment. They will try to upgrade at right tackle. Rod Smith (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3328) will probably move into the No. 3 wide receiver role. They will probably make a big move for a pass-rusher. They will also be looking for running back help. Tatum Bell (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6800) fumbled too much for Shanahan's taste. The Broncos will be playing the third-place schedule, which should help them bounce back into the playoff race and challenge the Chargers and Chiefs.
Detroit Lions (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=det)
Cap room: $15.6 million
Year 8 in the Matt Millen regime features more change. Even though they would like to draft a pass-rusher, the Lions could lean toward drafting Wisconsin offensive tackle Joe Thomas. They will be in the market for a receiver now that they have settled on Roy Williams (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6766) and Mike Furrey (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6612) as their top two pass-catchers. They expect to bid big for a free-agent middle linebacker. The Lions could dump a few free-agent acquisitions from the past few years -- tight end Marcus Pollard (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3432), cornerback Fernando Bryant (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4675), and guards Ross Verba (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3920) and Damien Woody (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4665). The surprising news is that they don't appear to be interested in drafting quarterback JaMarcus Russell or Brady Quinn. They are content to go with Jon Kitna (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4157) as the starter in the Mike Martz offense. They have concerns at halfback. Kevin Jones (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6789) is coming off a Lisfranc injury that could jeopardize this season. The Lions have 11 free agents, but they may try to franchise defensive lineman Cory Redding (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6402) to keep him around.
Green Bay Packers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=gnb)
Cap room: $24.1 million
Brett Favre (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=1025) is back for 2007, and it's not out of the question he will play even longer. He had fun last year. At 8-8, the Packers have a chance to get back into the playoff picture. They have enough cap room to make a move and they don't have many re-signing issues. They have eight unrestricted free agents, and they will try to re-sign Ahman Green (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4261) and backup tight end David Martin (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5646). The rest of the free agents are backups. The Packers need better play at tight end and safety, and will be looking for upgrades. The defensive line will also be a main focus of general manager Ted Thompson. The offensive line made a positive turn despite having as many as three rookie starters. Greg Jennings (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7801) and Donald Driver (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4863) form a good receiver tandem.
Houston Texans (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=hou)
Cap room: $16.65 million
The David Carr (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5887) era may be coming to an end. Gary Kubiak appears to be seriously looking at trading for Jake Plummer. Where that leaves Carr is anyone's guess. The Texans are tired of losing. It's also possible they could draft Oklahoma RB Adrian Peterson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6134) if he's available in the first round, although their priority is a left tackle. This might sound unbelievable for a team that drafted Mario Williams (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7750) over Reggie Bush (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7751), but the Texans would like to add another pass-rusher. This will be a tough year for the Texans. Their schedule is impossible. They face 11 teams that had .500 records or better in 2006. The AFC South is suddenly becoming one of the toughest divisions in football. The Texans are improving, but they might need another year or two before they can think about contending. They have 15 free agents. Expect them to try to re-sign cornerback Dexter McCleon (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3945), who did well coming off the street to start. They also have to decide about the future of RB Domanick Williams (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6437), who missed last season because of knee problems.
Indianapolis Colts (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=ind)
Cap room: $200,000
The Colts won't have room to be a player in free agency, but they should do enough to keep this team together. They can restructure Peyton Manning (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4256)'s contract and save about $8 million in cap room. They can cut wide receiver Brandon Stokley (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4755) and defensive tackle Corey Simon (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5035). Defensive end Dwight Freeney (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5897) will either be franchised or get a new contract. The big decision involves linebacker Cato June (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6534). The Colts lost linebackers Marcus Washington (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5088), Mike Peterson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4685) and David Thornton (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5992) over the past few years and the defense suffered with their departures. June may not be as good as those three players, but he is a playmaker the Colts would like to keep. Expect the Colts to look for larger defensive line backups who will allow them to put some bigger packages together against power running teams. The Colts have a chance to repeat. It's not out of the question for them to be able to re-sign halfback Dominic Rhodes (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5793). They will lose safety Mike Doss (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6394), but that is intentional. Manning vows to get better as a quarterback and that is scary for the rest of the league.
Jacksonville Jaguars (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=jac)
Cap room: $21.6 million
Jack Del Rio could be on the hot seat if he doesn't win in 2007. The team has been a playoff contender under his reign, but it slipped in 2006. He abandoned injured Byron Leftwich (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6343) to go with David Garrard (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5994), only to find out Garrard was simply a very good backup. Now, he has to make up with Leftwich and make sure Leftwich has enough trust in his coach. The good news for the Jaguars is there won't be many changes on this team. The Jaguars have done a good job of re-signing most of their good, young players. They have only seven free agents, the main one being safety Deon Grant (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5086). Jacksonville won't have to cut anyone for cap reasons. Del Rio has been very active in changing coaches. He fired five assistants after the season. The concern is the Titans may be getting better and becoming the second-best team in the AFC South.
Kansas City Chiefs (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=kan)
Cap room: $5.1 million
Head coach Herman Edwards may have a hard time getting the Chiefs out of the seven-to-nine-win rutt. The Chiefs are an older team that is starting to undergo a major transition along the offensive line. Willie Roaf (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=2586) is gone. Will Shields (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=2445) is getting older. The right tackle spot is in flux. Trent Green (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=2547) is expected to be the starting quarterback but he will be 37 next season. The Chiefs have to decide if they should keep Damon Huard (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4180) as the backup. They also have plans for Brodie Croyle (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7834). Something has to give. There shouldn't be too many releases. Kick returner Dante Hall (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5182) is on the bubble but will probably stay. Kansas City hasn't been thrilled with linebacker Kendrell Bell (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5486), but he should be back. The biggest name among the nine free agents is middle linebacker Kawika Mitchell (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6383), who may be targeted by the Lions and other teams. The cornerbacks -- Ty Law (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3188) and Patrick Surtain (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4303) -- are old, but they can still play. The Chiefs need major upgrades at defensive tackle. It's also time to get some wide receiver help. Edwards should be familiar with the situation. This team looks like the Jets team he coached to three playoff appearances. The problem is that this could be the year age catches up with the Chiefs and they drop out of playoff contention.
Miami Dolphins (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=mia)
Cap room: $13.1 million
Nick Saban's biggest problem was that he was indecisive. He'd waffle on decisions for the longest time, even though he'd put pressure on his staff to help him with those decisions. Consequently, he let the Dolphins' defense get old and he wasted a year figuring out the quarterback situation. Saban is gone and the Dolphins organization is rejoicing. New coach Cam Cameron comes in with a nice persona and an all-star staff. First he has to figure out the quarterback position. Daunte Culpepper (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4659) should be the starter as long as his knee finally heals properly with rest and rehab. Joey Harrington (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5889) may be a cap casualty, and Cleo Lemon (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7026) is a restricted free agent who may or may not be back. The Dolphins will try to get more speed at the wide receiver position. They were slow afoot and lacked big plays. They have 15 free agents, including defensive tackle Vonnie Holliday (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4282), tackle Damion McIntosh (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5112), running back Sammy Morris (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5185) and safety Travares Tillman (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5087). They could cut wide receiver Marty Booker (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4728), defensive tackle Dan Wilkinson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=2760) and offensive lineman Seth McKinney (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5976). This team figures to have 20 or more changes on the roster. Culpepper could be the key, though. If he can become a good quarterback again, the Dolphins could be a contender. They will stay in a 3-4 defense after keeping Dom Capers as the defensive coordinator.
Minnesota Vikings (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=min)
Cap room: $12.2 million
The Vikings vow not to be big players in free agency. Brad Childress says those days are over. They want to build through the draft. Some free-agent signings haven't worked out. There could be a few releases before the start of free agency. Cornerback Fred Smoot (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5492), safety Dwight Smith (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5531), tackle Mike Rosenthal (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4799), quarterback Brad Johnson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=2160) and tight end Jermaine Wiggins (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5297) could all be cut. The Vikings could lose linebacker Napoleon Harris (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5909), whose contract voids. Wide receiver Travis Taylor (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5039) is a free agent and the Vikings already cut Marcus Robinson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4070). That means the Vikings need one or two wide receivers, tight end help and more depth at cornerback and right tackle. Their quarterback position is also in flux. Tarvaris Jackson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7813) is raw. Brooks Bollinger (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6536) isn't the answer. Johnson is probably going to be gone. The third-place schedule gives them non-common games against the Falcons and 49ers, which will be tough. Childress also has to replace defensive coordinator Mike Tomlin, whom players liked and respected.
New England Patriots (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nwe)
Cap room: $26.9 million
The Patriots are gambling with their roster. They didn't want to pay big money for Deion Branch (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5951), so they lost him for lesser receivers. Yet, they went to the AFC title game without him. Now, they are contemplating not re-signing Asante Samuel (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6456), who will compete against Nate Clements for the big cornerback money in free agency. The Patriots also could lose tight end Daniel Graham (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5907) and linebacker Tully Banta-Cain (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6575) in free agency. Clearly, the window hasn't closed on the Patriots' Super Bowl runs, but their roster is getting thinner and thinner each year. It's going to be hard for them to stay at the 12-win level next season because they have the toughest schedule in the AFC (.535 against). Last year, they had a .496-against schedule, which helped their record. Still, the Patriots should win 10 or 11 games without too much trouble. Tom Brady (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5228) is still the quarterback. Coach Bill Belichick has reached the Hall of Fame level, but at some point he needs a new contract. There is some thought this could be the final year of his deal. As everyone knows, Belichick keeps everything a mystery.
New Orleans Saints (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nor)
Cap room: $21.9 million
The Saints are among the league leaders with 16 free agents. The biggest decision involves defensive end Charles Grant (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5911). Now that the Saints are a Super Bowl contender, Grant is too good to let slip away. The Saints have to franchise him or re-sign him. The rest of the list isn't too bad. They could lose guard Montrae Holland (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6438), but head coach Sean Payton did a great job of retooling the offensive line last season, getting younger and better. They need to re-sign defensive tackle Hollis Thomas (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3769), who was valuable stopping the run. Age or injuries could put wide receiver Joe Horn (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3646) or tight end Ernie Conwell (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3501) on the bubble of being cut, but the Saints don't want to do too much to destroy the karma on this team. Their surplus of cap room means they don't have to release anyone. Fred Thomas (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3613) struggled at cornerback, so they may need to look at upgrading that position. Defense will be the focal point for the Saints during the offseason. They patched the linebacking corps with transitional veterans. They could use more help at defensive tackle. Still, the Saints are loaded on offense and should have mostly everyone back. They probably need to acquire a pass-catching tight end, but they did well without one. The Saints' schedule features nine games against teams that had .500 records or better in 2006.
New York Giants (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nyg)
Cap room: $9.4 million
As long as Eli Manning (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6760) doesn't get worse, the Giants should at least be a contender for a wild-card spot or the NFC East title. The offense simply can't afford for him to regress, especially considering Tiki Barber (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3937) has retired. The defense could take a hit, though. The Giants could cut linebacker Carlos Emmons (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3805), but they have two defenders -- Michael Strahan (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=2579) and LaVar Arrington (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5031) -- coming off major foot or leg injuries and it is possible both players might not be the same. If that's the case, the defense could suffer a drop in production. Tom Coughlin is clearly fighting for his head-coaching life. He signed a one-year extension for 2008, but he has to win now. Two playoff appearances are not enough to satisfy ownership. Coughlin needs to get deep into the playoffs and he needs to make Manning a better quarterback. He brought in Chris Palmer as the quarterback coach and moved Kevin Gilbride over to offensive coordinator. The Giants have only nine free agents, but center Shaun O'Hara (http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5309) sticks out as the best of the crop. It would be hard to lose him because New York needs to get better along the offensive line, not worse. The Giants also need more speed at the wide receiver position. New York didn't really improve much in 2006. An easier schedule, though, could provide one or two wins next season.
New York Jets (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nyj)
Cap room: $20.8 million
Eric Mangini surprised everyone by making the Jets a contender in his first season. The mission gets tougher this year. The Jets' opponents last year had a collective winning percentage of .469. And against teams with a .500 record or better, the Jets went just 3-4. This year, their schedule is tougher (opponents' winning percentage is a collective .516), which should pull the Jets back closer to .500. The Jets have only five free agents, the only starter being right tackle Anthony Clement (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4296). They could make a few changes on the roster with wide receiver Justin McCareins (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5572), cornerback David Barrett (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5131) and halfbacks Kevan Barlow (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5527) and Derrick Blaylock (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5598) being possible casualties. Curtis Martin (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3164) will retire. Still, Mangini is molding a Bill Belichick-type of team. The players are smart and they know the game. Chad Pennington (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5047) made an incredible comeback from two shoulder surgeries. With great coaching and a no-huddle option, Pennington will be pushing the Jets to challenge the Patriots for the AFC East title if they can get past the tougher schedule.
Oakland Raiders (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=oak)
Cap room: $6.2 million
The Raiders are a mess. Al Davis hired 31-year-old Lane Kiffin as the coach, and it's not certain whether some of his receivers will want to play for him. Randy Moss (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4262) wants to be traded and has already let Kiffin know he's not happy about being in Oakland. So all Kiffin has to do is turn around the offense, possibly without Moss and Jerry Porter (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5076) (who had his problems last year and is no sure thing this season), which won't be easy. The smart money would be on the Raiders taking LSU QB JaMarcus Russell with the No. 1 overall pick. That might not mean a winning season in 2007, but it gives them some hope for the future. But, of course, there is no guarantee the Raiders will do that. Oakland has a lot of overpaid players on offense. LaMont Jordan (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5496) hasn't played like a $5.5 million running back. Moss and Porter have been nonfactors. The offensive line is shaky. The Raiders scored only 12 offensive touchdowns last season. They have the makings of a good defense with eight relatively young players working well with defensive coordinator Rob Ryan. The Raiders could cut guard Barry Sims (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4913) and Aaron Brooks (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4781) could be in trouble at quarterback.
Philadelphia Eagles (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=phi)
Cap room: $3.6 million
The Eagles took the NFC East's best shot -- the division brought in Tom Coughlin, Bill Parcells and Joe Gibbs to stop them -- but Philly got the last laugh and is back on top. The Eagles, who went to four straight NFC title games, dropped down to six wins in 2005 but rebounded in style, winning the division in 2006. Andy Reid has rebuilt the offensive and defensive lines and Donovan McNabb (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4650) will be back at quarterback. Jeff Garcia (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4924) figures to leave in free agency for more money and a different opportunity (Chicago and Tampa Bay are just two of the teams being mentioned), but A.J. Feeley (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5603) can take over as the backup. The Eagles have only 10 free agents. Safety Michael Lewis (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5944) is expected to leave. They would like to re-sign Donte' Stallworth (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5899), but that could be competitive. The Eagles will be looking for help at wide receiver, cornerback, linebacker and could use a safety as well. Still, the Eagles are back in control of the NFC East.
Pittsburgh Steelers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=pit)
Cap room: $3.1 million
New head coach Mike Tomlin needs to maintain what Bill Cowher built for years. The job won't be all that easy. He kept Dick LeBeau around to help with the 3-4 defense, but Tomlin may try to turn the Steelers into a hybrid 3-4 and 4-3, with the 3-4 being the base. Bruce Arians takes over as offensive coordinator. He wants to spread the field with four receivers, something Ben Roethlisberger (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6770) likes, although Roethlisberger first has to buy into the change from Ken Whisenhunt to Arians. He also has to adjust to Ken Anderson as the quarterbacks coach. The Steelers need to find a big back to complement Willie Parker (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7073). T.J. Duckett (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5904) could be that back at the right price. The Steelers have a tough assignment in replacing center Jeff Hartings (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3524), who retired. Tomlin also has to decide whether he likes vocal Joey Porter (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4723) at outside linebacker. Cowher left Tomlin a playoff-caliber team. The Steelers have nine free agents who are all backups. It's up to Tomlin to get Pittsburgh back into the playoffs.
St. Louis Rams (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=stl)
Cap room: $22.9 million
The Rams came out of 2006 with a respectable 8-8 record under first-year coach Scott Linehan. The Rams still have a dangerous offense. Marc Bulger (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5197) is one of the top quarterbacks in the NFC. Torry Holt (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4654) and Isaac Bruce (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=2914) are aging a little but they are a dangerous one-two punch at receiver. Steven Jackson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6783) is one of the league's most dangerous running backs. Those are the positives keeping the team afloat. The problems are many. The offensive line remains a concern. It struggled again last season. The defense improved through free agency and the draft but it needs more athletes. What makes things worse is that the 49ers and Cardinals could be ready to pass the Rams in the NFC West, and St. Louis hasn't caught up to the Seahawks. The Rams could suffer a big loss if Kevin Curtis (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6410) leaves. He's a dangerous receiver who is entering his prime. The Rams' 13 other free agents are mostly backups and key role players. The Rams have plenty of room to upgrade their roster. They may cut guard Adam Timmerman (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3392) and linebacker Dexter Coakley (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3959), but there aren't any cap issues.
San Diego Chargers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=sdg)
Cap room: $21.4 million
General manager A.J. Smith has done a great job of keeping the roster together. He re-signed seven players last year. The team has 15 players who were selected to the Pro Bowl or as alternates. It has only seven free agents, the most important being guard Kris Dielman (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6702), whom the Chargers can't afford to lose. The concern has to be coaching. Marty Schottenheimer is in the last year of his contract and could be gone after the season. The Chargers lost both coordinators -- Cam Cameron and Wade Phillips. They lost linebackers coach Greg Manusky. The drain on the coaching staff and the uncertainty about Schottenheimer could affect the Chargers next season. But don't be fooled. This team is loaded and could be a Super Bowl contender again. It has a great young quarterback in Philip Rivers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6763), and it has LaDainian Tomlinson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5452). The Chargers also have the easiest of the first-place schedules among the AFC teams.
San Francisco 49ers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=sfo)
Cap room: $37.5 million
This team could reach the playoffs next year. Mike Nolan got a break when the Cowboys hired Wade Phillips instead of Norv Turner. It would have been a severe setback to the 49ers, as Turner has been instrumental in the development of Alex Smith (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7177). Frank Gore (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7241) is considered by some to be the NFC's best young running back. The plan is to work on the defense. With this much cap room and plenty of draft picks, the 49ers could come up with six or seven new starters on defense. They plan to make two or three major free-agent signings. They will try for Baltimore LB Adalius Thomas (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5215), but if the Ravens franchise him, the Niners may go for Nate Clements (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5468) or Asante Samuel (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6456). The 49ers could use another receiver, but the emphasis will be on improving the defense.
Seattle Seahawks (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=sea)
Cap room: $17.2 million
The window is starting to close on the Seahawks, but they should remain a step ahead of the competition in the NFC West for another year or two. The Seahawks suffered many injuries last season. Matt Hasselbeck (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4416) missed four games with a knee injury, then needed surgery to repair a torn left labrum. He should be ready for training camp. Shaun Alexander (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5048) missed seven games with a broken foot. The offensive line was forced to juggle the lineup throughout the season. The good news is that youngsters Rob Sims (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7877) and Chris Spencer (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7202) emerged. Spencer will replace the retiring Robbie Tobeck (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=2696) at center. Sims will start at left guard. The Seahawks need bigger and healthier defensive linemen, and a coverage safety. But they still have Mike Holmgren, so they have a chance for their fourth division title in a row. They won't lose kicker Josh Brown (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6558) because they can franchise him if they don't sign him to a new contract.
Tampa Bay Buccaneers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=tam)
Cap room: $15 million
The pressure is building on Jon Gruden. Ownership values his coaching, but the pressure is back on the Bucs to return to their winning ways. Age finally caught up to the defense last season. The Bucs plan to keep defensive end Simeon Rice (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3549), but they could release defensive linemen Ellis Wyms (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5631) and Greg Spires (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4490) if they don't restructure their contracts. They need to re-sign defensive end Dewayne White (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6400), who is a free agent. The most important decision will come at quarterback. The Bucs re-signed Chris Simms (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6433), but they may go after Jeff Garcia (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4924) as insurance. The Bucs could cut right tackle Kenyatta Walker (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5461), but they also have to decide if they want Mike Alstott (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3500) back.
Tennessee Titans (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=ten)
Cap room: $37 million
The Titans have the look of a playoff team next season, as Vince Young (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7752) went 8-5 down the stretch. They have several free agents, including wide receiver Drew Bennett (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5798), halfback Chris Brown (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6429), defensive tackle Rien Long (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6462) and defensive end Robaire Smith (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5226). Jeff Fisher has turned this team around. Young went to the Pro Bowl and should get better next season, as he will open the year as the starting quarterback. Plus, Fisher will try to improve the talent level at receiver. Fisher's biggest task, though, is improving the defense. This is a young unit still struggling for an identity. Young helped make the Titans competitive. It's up to the defense to take the team to the next level.
Washington Redskins (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=was)
Cap room: $4.3 million
Don't expect the Redskins to go crazy in free agency. They have 11 free agents, but only LB Warrick Holdman (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4756) is a starter. There could be significant roster changes, though. Gibbs could wipe out quarterback Mark Brunell (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=2485), wide receiver David Patten (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4172), safety Troy Vincent (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=2225), kicker John Hall (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4126), wide receiver Brandon Lloyd (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6460) and safety Adam Archuleta (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5467). T.J. Duckett (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5904) will leave in free agency. The Redskins figure to make major improvements along the defensive front seven, which became less athletic last season. The key to the team's playoff chances is how Jason Campbell (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7201) develops at quarterback.

BigRedChief
02-12-2007, 07:56 AM
The Clayton article link:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=2758756

htismaqe
02-12-2007, 08:15 AM
Might have a little something to do with that stadium thing.

I guess Hunt could just cheat the cap like Pat Bowlen did.

It absolutely has to do with the stadium.

Hunt doesn't want to dip into non-football assets to pay for players. MOST owners don't. Irsay did it to sign Manning, but that's the exception, not the rule.

Guys like Jones and Snyder sign endless free agents because the luxury box revenue from their stadiums allow them to.

Something tells me we'll see at least some more aggressiveness in free agency once the rennovations are complete.

BigRedChief
02-12-2007, 08:28 AM
It absolutely has to do with the stadium.

Hunt doesn't want to dip into non-football assets to pay for players. MOST owners don't. Irsay did it to sign Manning, but that's the exception, not the rule.

Guys like Jones and Snyder sign endless free agents because the luxury box revenue from their stadiums allow them to.

Something tells me we'll see at least some more aggressiveness in free agency once the rennovations are complete.
Okay so after the paid all the salaries of their employees and all other expenses the Chiefs are making at least $30 million in profit yearly and have been for say at least 7 years.

Thats $210 million profit. You are saying that they don't have $10 million to pay for a signing bonus?

htismaqe
02-12-2007, 08:58 AM
Okay so after the paid all the salaries of their employees and all other expenses the Chiefs are making at least $30 million in profit yearly and have been for say at least 7 years.

Thats $210 million profit. You are saying that they don't have $10 million to pay for a signing bonus?

The year they signed Surtain, they paid out close to $40M in bonuses when all was said and done. They paid out around $30M the year they got McCleon, Barber, and Holliday. You're only looking at the high profile bonuses, but you have to remember that every year you got 5-6 players that are getting $1-2M in bonuses. It erases that $30M VERY fast, especially when you consider guys like Pat Bowlen are pulling in $80M-$90M to buy the same players.

BigRedChief
02-12-2007, 10:10 AM
The year they signed Surtain, they paid out close to $40M in bonuses when all was said and done. They paid out around $30M the year they got McCleon, Barber, and Holliday. You're only looking at the high profile bonuses, but you have to remember that every year you got 5-6 players that are getting $1-2M in bonuses. It erases that $30M VERY fast, especially when you consider guys like Pat Bowlen are pulling in $80M-$90M to buy the same players.But they are making that money back later. hence the $30 million profit on a yearly basis.
Sorry but we are poor and can't compete is not gonna fly with me. We may not have Daniel Snyder type of money but we ain't poor either.

Brock
02-12-2007, 10:32 AM
None of you actually know what you're talking about.

ChiTown
02-12-2007, 10:43 AM
None of you actually know what you're talking about.

That might be the only accurate statement in this whole thread.. :)

BigRedChief
02-12-2007, 10:45 AM
None of you actually know what you're talking about.
So? Since when did that become a qualification to post?

Brock
02-12-2007, 10:49 AM
So? Since when did that become a qualification to post?

That's fine, I just thought I'd inject some actual fact into the argument.

htismaqe
02-12-2007, 11:18 AM
But they are making that money back later. hence the $30 million profit on a yearly basis.
Sorry but we are poor and can't compete is not gonna fly with me. We may not have Daniel Snyder type of money but we ain't poor either.

This is the pat answer for someone who refuses to accept the fact that football is a BUSINESS.

Nobody said the Chiefs are poor. But it's a fact that they cannot compete with any number of teams that have new stadiums. It's a FACT. What you're asking the Chiefs to do is sacrifice the long-term financial growth of their business to win football games, when the fans have made it perfectly obvious that they'll support the team (in terms of revenue) whether they win or not. That's not sound BUSINESS, regardless of how you want to spin it. Guys like Daniel Snyder don't even have to THINK about it.

You're expecting the Chiefs to function differently than 90% of the NFL. That's not gonna happen.

htismaqe
02-12-2007, 11:19 AM
That's fine, I just thought I'd inject some actual fact into the argument.

I did that 5 posts into the thread. You're a little late. :D

BigRedChief
02-12-2007, 02:05 PM
I did that 5 posts into the thread. You're a little late. :D
Isn't this where red rum posts something about doing your mom?