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Rain Man
02-11-2007, 05:32 PM
Okay, there are currently 13 running backs in the Hall of Fame who were active in 1970 or later. If all positions were represented equally, with the same number of inductees, there should be 9 of these running backs in there.

The rules:

1. I'll post bios of the current enshrinees. Feel free to browse them.

2. If you would like to nominate any other players, feel free to do so, but you must make an argument for them.

3. After a reasonable time for discussion has passed, I'll add a poll to this post and we'll pick NINE Hall of Fame running backs.

The next several posts will detail the 13 currently in, in alphabetical order by last name.

Rain Man
02-11-2007, 05:36 PM
Candidate #1: Marcus Allen

Running Back >>> 6-2, 210
(Southern California)
1982-1992 Los Angeles Raiders, 1993-1997 Kansas City Chiefs

Marcus LeMarr Allen. . .Selected by Raiders in first round, 1982 draft. . .1981 Heisman Trophy winner. . . NFL Rookie of the Year, 1982. . .Super Bowl XVIII MVP. . .NFL MVP in 1985. . .First player in NFL history to rush for 10,000-plus yards and catch passes for 5,000 more. . .Career totals: 12,243 yards rushing, 5,411 yards receiving, 145 TDs. . .All-Pro 1982, 1985. . .All-AFC four times . . .Named to six Pro Bowls. . .Born March 26, 1960, in San Diego, California.
Marcus Allen, the tenth player selected in the 1982 National Football League Draft, played 16 seasons with the Los Angeles Raiders and Kansas City Chiefs. During that time he gained 12,243 yards rushing, 5,411 yards receiving, and scored 145 touchdowns.

Considered one of the game’s best goal line and short-yardage runners, Marcus began his pro career as the NFL Rookie of the Year and ended as the game’s all-time rushing touchdown leader.

At the time of his retirement following the 1997 season, he held the single-season record for most rushing and receiving yards combined (2,314), second in consecutive 100-yard games, and was third in career-combined yardage. During his 11 seasons with the Raiders, the former University of Southern California standout, was named to the Pro Bowl five times. He added a sixth appearance in 1994, as a member of the Kansas City Chiefs.

He was the Raiders leading ground gainer seven consecutive years and the Chiefs four consecutive times. He even led the Raiders in receptions with 51 in 1987. Allen’s big-game performance in Super Bowl XVIII when the Raiders defeated the Washington Redskins 38-9 earned the then-second-year player game MVP honors. In that game he rushed for 191 yards and scored two touchdowns, one a Super Bowl record 74-yard gallop.

Allen’s finest season came in 1985, as he led the league with 1,759 rushing yards on 380 carries for a 4.6 yards per carry average and 11 touchdowns. He also caught 67 passes for 555 yards and scored an additional three touchdowns. For his performance he was rewarded with league MVP honors.

In 1995, Marcus made NFL history when he became when he became the first player in league history to rush for over 10,000 yards and catch passes for 5,000 more. As further evidence of his versatility, Allen completed 12 of 27 passes for 282 yards and six touchdowns during his career.

In 15 career playoff games, he carried the ball 267 times for 1,347 yards and 11 touchdowns, averaging an impressive 5.0 yards per carry average. He also added 52 catches for 522 yards and two receiving touchdowns.



| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1982 rai | 9 | 160 697 4.4 11 | 38 401 10.6 3 |
| 1983 rai | 15 | 266 1014 3.8 9 | 68 590 8.7 2 |
| 1984 rai | 16 | 275 1168 4.2 13 | 64 758 11.8 5 |
| 1985 rai | 16 | 380 1759 4.6 11 | 67 555 8.3 3 |
| 1986 rai | 13 | 208 759 3.6 5 | 46 453 9.8 2 |
| 1987 rai | 12 | 200 754 3.8 5 | 51 410 8.0 0 |
| 1988 rai | 15 | 223 831 3.7 7 | 34 303 8.9 1 |
| 1989 rai | 8 | 69 293 4.2 2 | 20 191 9.6 0 |
| 1990 rai | 16 | 179 682 3.8 12 | 15 189 12.6 1 |
| 1991 rai | 8 | 63 287 4.6 2 | 15 131 8.7 0 |
| 1992 rai | 16 | 67 301 4.5 2 | 28 277 9.9 1 |
| 1993 kan | 16 | 206 764 3.7 12 | 34 238 7.0 3 |
| 1994 kan | 13 | 189 709 3.8 7 | 42 349 8.3 0 |
| 1995 kan | 16 | 207 890 4.3 5 | 27 210 7.8 0 |
| 1996 kan | 16 | 206 830 4.0 9 | 27 270 10.0 0 |
| 1997 kan | 16 | 124 505 4.1 11 | 11 86 7.8 0 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 221 | 3022 12243 4.1 123 | 587 5411 9.2 21 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+


Seasons among the league's top 10
Rushes: 1982-6, 1984-10, 1985-2
Rushing yards: 1982-4, 1984-10, 1985-1, 1987-10
Rushing TDs: 1982-1, 1983-10t, 1984-3t, 1985-3t, 1990-4, 1993-1, 1994-8t, 1996-9, 1997-3t
Yards from scrimmage: 1982-1, 1983-9, 1984-4, 1985-1, 1987-6
Rush/Receive TDs: 1982-1, 1984-1t, 1985-3, 1990-4t, 1993-2t, 1997-10t


Among the league's all-time top 50
Rushes: 6
Rushing yards: 10
Rushing TDs: 2
Receptions: 50
Yards from scrimmage: 6
Rush/Receive TDs: 3


Postseason data
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Year Opp Result | RSH YD TD | REC YD TD
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
1982 cle W,27-10 | 17 72 2 | 6 75 0
1982 nyj L,14-17 | 15 36 1 | 6 37 0
1983 pit W,38-10 | 13 121 2 | 5 38 0
1983 sea W,30-14 | 25 154 0 | 7 62 1
*1983 was W,38-9 | 20 191 2 | 2 18 0
1984 sea L,7-13 | 17 61 0 | 5 90 1
1985 nwe L,20-27 | 22 121 1 | 3 8 0
1990 cin W,20-10 | 21 140 0 | 1 24 0
1990 buf L,3-51 | 10 26 0 | 2 19 0
1991 kan L,6-10 | 7 39 0 | 1 4 0
1993 pit W,27-24 | 21 67 1 | 4 29 0
1993 hou W,28-20 | 14 74 1 | 1 12 0
1993 buf L,13-30 | 18 50 1 | 2 36 0
1994 mia L,17-27 | 14 64 0 | 5 49 0
1995 ind L,7-10 | 21 94 0 | 2 21 0
1997 den L,10-14 | 12 37 0 | 1 8 0
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
TOTAL | 267 1347 11 | 53 530 2


* - Super Bowl

Rain Man
02-11-2007, 05:38 PM
Candidate #2: Earl Campbell

Running Back >>> 5-11, 232
(Texas)
1978-1984 Houston Oilers, 1984-1985 New Orleans Saints

Earl Christian Campbell. . .First player taken in 1978 NFL Draft. . . Texas All-America, Heisman Trophy winner. . .NFL rushing champion, Player of Year, All-Pro, Pro Bowl choice, 1978, 1979, 1980. . .Career high 1,934 yards rushing including four 200-yard rushing games, 1980. . . Career stats: 9,407 yards, 74 TDs rushing, 121 receptions, 806 yards. . . Played in five Pro Bowls. . .Born March 29, 1955, in Tyler, Texas.

Earl Campbell, a 5-11, 232-pound ball-carrying dynamo from the University of Texas, joined the Houston Oilers as the first player taken in the 1978 National Football League Draft. The first player to earn All-Southwest Conference honors four years, Campbell was a consensus All-America and the Heisman Trophy winner in 1977.

Born March 29, 1955, in Tyler, Texas, Campbell took the NFL by storm right from the very start. In 1978, he was named the NFL's Most Valuable Player, All-Pro, and Rookie of the Year. He won the league rushing championship with 1,450 yards and was named to the AFC Pro Bowl squad. It was more of the same the next two years with NFL rushing titles, MVP honors, and consensus All-Pro acclaim each season.

His finest year came in 1980, however, when he rushed for 1,934 yards, which at the time was second only to 0. J. Simpson’s 2003 yards gained in 1973. That year, he gained over 200 yards in four games. In 1981, he won his fourth straight AFC rushing title. A sensational runner, Campbell was picked for the Pro Bowl five of his first six NFL seasons.

In his eight-season career, Campbell rushed 2,187 times for 9,407 yards, and 74 touchdowns. He also gained 806 yards on 121 receptions to bring his career combined net yards total to 10,213. His most famous performance came in a Monday night game against Miami in his rookie season. That night, he rushed for 199 yards and four touchdowns to lead the Oilers to a spectacular 35-30 victory. In spite of the constant pounding he took from opposing defenders, Earl missed only six games out of 115 because of injuries. Midway into his seventh season, the powerful running back was traded by the Oilers to the New Orleans Saints for a first-round draft pick. He played a season and a half with the Saints before retiring after the 1985 campaign.


+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1978 hou | 15 | 302 1450 4.8 13 | 12 48 4.0 0 |
| 1979 hou | 16 | 368 1697 4.6 19 | 16 94 5.9 0 |
| 1980 hou | 15 | 373 1934 5.2 13 | 11 47 4.3 0 |
| 1981 hou | 16 | 361 1376 3.8 10 | 36 156 4.3 0 |
| 1982 hou | 9 | 157 538 3.4 2 | 18 130 7.2 0 |
| 1983 hou | 14 | 322 1301 4.0 12 | 19 216 11.4 0 |
| 1984 nor | 8 | 50 190 3.8 0 | 0 0 0.0 0 |
| 1984 hou | 6 | 96 278 2.9 4 | 3 27 9.0 0 |
| 1985 nor | 16 | 158 643 4.1 1 | 6 88 14.7 0 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 115 | 2187 9407 4.3 74 | 121 806 6.7 0 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+


Seasons among the league's top 10
Rushes: 1978-3, 1979-2, 1980-1, 1981-2, 1982-7, 1983-5
Rushing yards: 1978-1, 1979-1, 1980-1, 1981-5t, 1983-7
Rushing TDs: 1978-2, 1979-1, 1980-1t, 1981-7t, 1983-5t
Yards from scrimmage: 1978-4, 1979-4, 1980-1, 1983-10
Rush/Receive TDs: 1978-2t, 1979-1, 1980-2t, 1983-8t


Among the league's all-time top 50
Rushes: 22
Rushing yards: 23
Rushing TDs: 21t


Postseason data
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Year Opp Result | RSH YD TD | REC YD TD
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
1978 mia W,17-9 | 26 84 1 | 1 13 0
1978 nwe W,31-14 | 27 118 1 | 1 10 0
1978 pit L,5-34 | 22 62 0 | 1 4 0
1979 den W,13-7 | 16 50 1 | 1 7 0
1979 pit L,13-27 | 17 15 0 | 1 11 0
1980 oak L,7-27 | 27 91 1 | 0 0 0
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
TOTAL | 135 420 4 | 5 45 0

Rain Man
02-11-2007, 05:40 PM
Candidate #3: Larry Csonka

Class of 1987
Fullback >>> 6-3, 237
(Syracuse)
1968-1974, 1979 Miami Dolphins, 1976-1978 New York Giants

Lawrence Richard Csonka. . .Syracuse All-America, 1967. . . No. 1 draft pick, 1968. . .Powerhouse runner, excellent blocker, receiver. . . Only 21 fumbles in 1,891 carries. . . Surpassed 1000 yards rushing three seasons. . . Four-time All-AFC, picked for five Pro Bowls. . .All-Pro 1971, 1972, 1973. . .MVP in Super Bowl VIII. . .Made great comeback with 1979 Dolphins. . .Career stats: 8,081 yards rushing, 106 receptions, 68 touchdowns. . .Born December 25, 1946, in Stow, Ohio.

Larry Csonka, a classic 6-3, 235-pound line-smashing fullback, provided the major rushing thrust in the Miami Dolphins' vaunted ball-control offense when the team was dominating the National Football League in the early 1970s.

A consensus All-America at Syracuse and the Dolphins’ No.1 draft pick in 1968, Larry contributed almost picture-perfect performances to Miami's three Super Bowl seasons in 1971, 1972, and 1973. Csonka surpassed 1,000 yards in rushing all three seasons with his best production – 1,117 yards – coming during Miami's perfect season in 1972. Larry earned AII-AFC honors four times and was named All-Pro in 1971, 1972, and 1973. He was also selected to play in five straight Pro Bowls, although injuries forced him to miss two of those games.

Perhaps his finest single-game effort came in Super Bowl VIII, when he was selected as the game’s Most Valuable Player. Miami's powerful attack was at its best with Csonka carrying 33 times for a then-Super Bowl record 145 yards and two touchdowns. Larry wound up his 11-year career with 8,081 yards rushing and added 820 yards on 106 pass receptions.

Extremely sure-handed, he fumbled only 21 times in 11 seasons. His 408 points came on 68 touchdowns. Csonka, who was born in Stow, Ohio, on December 25, 1946, startled the pro football world by playing out his option with Miami in 1974 and then joining the Memphis' Southmen of the World Football League. When the WFL folded, he joined the New York Giants as a free agent in 1976. He enjoyed moderate success for three seasons with the Giants before returning to the Dolphins for a final 1979 season. Csonka's final fling proved to be a success. His 873 yards rushing was his best since 1973 and his 13 total touchdowns and 12 touchdowns rushing both were career highs.


+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1968 mia | 11 | 138 540 3.9 6 | 11 118 10.7 1 |
| 1969 mia | 11 | 131 566 4.3 2 | 21 183 8.7 1 |
| 1970 mia | 14 | 193 874 4.5 6 | 11 94 8.5 0 |
| 1971 mia | 14 | 195 1051 5.4 7 | 13 113 8.7 1 |
| 1972 mia | 14 | 213 1117 5.2 6 | 5 48 9.6 0 |
| 1973 mia | 14 | 219 1003 4.6 5 | 7 22 3.1 0 |
| 1974 mia | 12 | 197 749 3.8 9 | 7 35 5.0 0 |
| 1976 nyg | 12 | 160 569 3.6 4 | 6 39 6.5 0 |
| 1977 nyg | 14 | 134 464 3.5 1 | 2 20 10.0 0 |
| 1978 nyg | 14 | 91 311 3.4 6 | 7 73 10.4 0 |
| 1979 mia | 16 | 220 837 3.8 12 | 16 75 4.7 1 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 146 | 1891 8081 4.3 64 | 106 820 7.7 4 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+


Seasons among the league's top 10
Rushes: 1971-8, 1973-10
Rushing yards: 1970-5, 1971-3, 1972-4, 1973-5
Rushing TDs: 1968-4t*, 1970-9t, 1971-10t, 1974-3t, 1979-4t
Yards from scrimmage: 1971-5
Rush/Receive TDs: 1968-8t*, 1974-10, 1979-6
* - AFL


Among the league's all-time top 50
Rushes: 33
Rushing yards: 34
Rushing TDs: 31


Postseason data
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Year Opp Result | RSH YD TD | REC YD TD
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
1970 oak L,14-21 | 10 23 0 | 0 0 0
1971 kan W,27-24 | 24 86 1 | 0 0 0
1971 bal W,21-0 | 15 63 1 | 0 0 0
*1971 dal L,3-24 | 9 40 0 | 2 18 0
1972 cle W,20-14 | 12 32 0 | 0 0 0
1972 pit W,21-17 | 24 68 1 | 1 9 0
*1972 was W,14-7 | 15 112 0 | 1 -1 0
1973 cin W,34-16 | 20 71 1 | 0 0 0
1973 oak W,27-10 | 29 117 3 | 0 0 0
*1973 min W,24-7 | 33 145 2 | 0 0 0
1974 oak L,26-28 | 24 114 0 | 0 0 0
1979 pit L,14-34 | 10 20 1 | 0 0 0
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
TOTAL | 225 891 10 | 4 26 0


* - Super Bowl

Rain Man
02-11-2007, 05:42 PM
Candidate #4: Eric Dickerson

Running Back >>> 6-3, 220
(Southern Methodist)
1983-1987 Los Angeles Rams, 1987-1991 Indianapolis Colts, 1992 Los Angeles Raiders, 1993 Atlanta Falcons

Eric Demetric Dickerson. . .Rams’ first-round draft pick, second player overall, 1983 draft. . .Rushed for NFL-record 2,105 yards, 1984. . . Gained 1,800 or more rushing yards three of first four seasons. . . Retired as the second all-time leading rusher with 13,259 yards on 2,996 carries. . .Named to six Pro Bowls. . .All-Pro five times. . .Led the league in rushing three times with Rams, once with Colts. . .Born September 2, 1960, in Sealy, Texas.

Eric Dickerson, a two-time All-America choice at Southern Methodist, was selected in the first round of the 1983 NFL Draft by the Los Angeles Rams. An immediate success, he established rookie records for most rushing attempts (390), most rushing yards gained (1,808) and most touchdowns rushing (18). His efforts earned him All-Pro, Pro Bowl, Player of the Year and Rookie of the Year honors.

In his second season, Dickerson continued his onslaught of the NFL record book. Twelve times during that season he gained more than 100 yards rushing, breaking the record of 100-yard games in a season held by O. J. Simpson. His 2,105 total yards rushing in 1984 shattered Simpson’s 1973 record of 2,003 yards rushing in a single season.

A workhorse runner with the Rams, Dickerson gained more than 1,000 yards each of his first four seasons with the team. In three of those seasons he gained more than 1,800 yards. Although he rushed for 1,234 yards in 1985, he missed the Pro Bowl for the first time in his short NFL career. He did, however, go on to rush for a playoff record 248 yards against the Dallas Cowboys in post-season play.

After playing just three games for the Rams during the strike-shortened 1987 season, Dickerson – in a blockbuster deal – was traded to the Indianapolis Colts. Although he played in just nine games with the Colts that year, he still managed to gain 1,011 yards to finish the season with 1,288. In 1988, Dickerson, with 1,659 yards rushing, became the first Colt to lead the league in rushing since Alan Ameche in 1955.

The following season he became the first player in NFL history to gain more than 1,000 yards in seven consecutive seasons. He also became the seventh back to gain more than 10,000 yards and the fastest ever to do so, reaching the milestone in just 91 games. During his 11-year career, Dickerson gained 13,259 yards rushing, which was second all-time at the time of his retirement. A six-time Pro Bowl selection, Dickerson was All-Pro in 1983, 1984, 1986, 1987 and 1988.


+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1983 ram | 16 | 390 1808 4.6 18 | 51 404 7.9 2 |
| 1984 ram | 16 | 379 2105 5.6 14 | 21 139 6.6 0 |
| 1985 ram | 14 | 292 1234 4.2 12 | 20 126 6.3 0 |
| 1986 ram | 16 | 404 1821 4.5 11 | 26 205 7.9 0 |
| 1987 ind | 9 | 223 1011 4.5 5 | 13 133 10.2 0 |
| 1987 ram | 3 | 60 277 4.6 1 | 5 38 7.6 0 |
| 1988 ind | 16 | 388 1659 4.3 14 | 36 377 10.5 1 |
| 1989 ind | 15 | 314 1311 4.2 7 | 30 211 7.0 1 |
| 1990 ind | 11 | 166 677 4.1 4 | 18 92 5.1 0 |
| 1991 ind | 10 | 167 536 3.2 2 | 41 269 6.6 1 |
| 1992 rai | 16 | 187 729 3.9 2 | 14 85 6.1 1 |
| 1993 atl | 4 | 26 91 3.5 0 | 6 58 9.7 0 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 146 | 2996 13259 4.4 90 | 281 2137 7.6 6 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+


Seasons among the league's top 10
Rushes: 1983-1, 1984-3, 1985-8, 1986-1, 1987-2, 1988-1, 1989-4
Rushing yards: 1983-1, 1984-1, 1985-8, 1986-1, 1987-2, 1988-1, 1989-3
Rushing TDs: 1983-2, 1984-1t, 1985-2, 1986-5, 1987-10t, 1988-3, 1989-10t
Yards from scrimmage: 1983-1, 1984-1, 1986-1, 1987-3, 1988-1t, 1989-7
Rush/Receive TDs: 1983-2, 1984-3t, 1985-7t, 1986-9t, 1988-2t


Among the league's all-time top 50
Rushes: 7
Rushing yards: 6
Rushing TDs: 12t
Yards from scrimmage: 11
Rush/Receive TDs: 21


Postseason data
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Year Opp Result | RSH YD TD | REC YD TD
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
1983 dal W,24-17 | 23 99 0 | 2 11 0
1983 was L,7-51 | 10 16 0 | 6 9 0
1984 nyg L,13-16 | 23 107 1 | 0 0 0
1985 dal W,20-0 | 34 248 2 | 1 -4 0
1985 chi L,0-24 | 17 46 0 | 3 10 0
1986 was L,7-19 | 26 158 0 | 0 0 0
1987 cle L,21-38 | 15 50 0 | 7 65 1
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
TOTAL | 148 724 3 | 19 91 1

Rain Man
02-11-2007, 05:44 PM
Candidate #5: Tony Dorsett

Running Back >>> 5-11, 192
(Pittsburgh)
1977-1987 Dallas Cowboys, 1988 Denver Broncos

Anthony Drew Dorsett, Sr. . .1976 Heisman Trophy winner. . .Draft-day trade made him Cowboys’ No. 1 pick, 1977. . .Played in two Super Bowls, five NFC championship games, four Pro Bowls. . . All-NFL, 1981. . . NFC rushing champion, 1982. . . Career totals: 12,739 yards rushing; 398 receptions for 3,554 yards, 16,347 combined net yards, 91 touchdowns. . . Ran record 99 yards for TD vs. Minnesota, 1983. . . Born April 7, 1954, in Rochester, Pennsylvania.


Tony Dorsett, a 5-11, 192-pound running back from the University of Pittsburgh, already was a celebrity by the time he joined the Dallas Cowboys as their first-round draft pick in 1977. A four-time All-America at Pittsburgh, Dorsett also won the 1976 Heisman Trophy.

Just as he had done at Pitt, he took the National Football League by storm in his rookie 1977 season. Dorsett rushed for 1,007 yards and 12 touchdowns and was a virtually unanimous choice for NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year honors. Dorsett, who was born April 7, 1954, in Rochester, Pennsylvania, rushed for more than 1,000 yards eight of his first nine seasons – the only miss was the strike-shortened 1982 campaign which, ironically, saw him win his only NFC rushing championship.

His top production came in 1981, when he rushed for 1,646 yards and added 325 yards on 32 receptions. Dorsett spent the first 11 seasons of his 12-year, 173-game NFL career with the Cowboys before being traded to the Denver Broncos for a fifth-round draft pick in 1988. He led the Broncos in rushing with 703 yards in 1988 but injuries prevented him from playing after that first campaign in Denver.

For his career, Dorsett rushed for 12,739 yards. He totaled 16,326 yards from scrimmage. He scored 546 points on 91 touchdowns, 77 by rushing, 13 by receiving and one on a fumble return. Dorsett, a three-time All-NFC pick, who was All-Pro in 1981 and a veteran of four Pro Bowls, played in five NFC championship games and Super Bowls XII and XIII. He had impressive post-season statistical totals -- 1,383 rushing yards and 1,786 yards from scrimmage in 17 games. In 1982 during a Monday night game against the Minnesota Vikings, Dorsett set a record that may some day be tied but will never be broken – a 99-yard touchdown run.


+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1977 dal | 14 | 208 1007 4.8 12 | 29 273 9.4 1 |
| 1978 dal | 16 | 290 1325 4.6 7 | 37 378 10.2 2 |
| 1979 dal | 14 | 250 1107 4.4 6 | 45 375 8.3 1 |
| 1980 dal | 15 | 278 1185 4.3 11 | 34 263 7.7 0 |
| 1981 dal | 16 | 342 1646 4.8 4 | 32 325 10.2 2 |
| 1982 dal | 9 | 177 745 4.2 5 | 24 179 7.5 0 |
| 1983 dal | 16 | 289 1321 4.6 8 | 40 287 7.2 1 |
| 1984 dal | 16 | 302 1189 3.9 6 | 51 459 9.0 1 |
| 1985 dal | 16 | 305 1307 4.3 7 | 46 449 9.8 3 |
| 1986 dal | 13 | 184 748 4.1 5 | 25 267 10.7 1 |
| 1987 dal | 12 | 130 456 3.5 1 | 19 177 9.3 1 |
| 1988 den | 16 | 181 703 3.9 5 | 16 122 7.6 0 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 173 | 2936 12739 4.3 77 | 398 3554 8.9 13 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+


Seasons among the league's top 10
Rushes: 1978-4, 1979-9, 1980-6, 1981-3, 1982-1t, 1983-9, 1984-6, 1985-5
Rushing yards: 1977-9, 1978-3, 1980-6t, 1981-2, 1982-2, 1983-6, 1984-7, 1985-6
Rushing TDs: 1977-2, 1980-3t, 1982-10t
Yards from scrimmage: 1977-8, 1978-2, 1979-9, 1980-9, 1981-2, 1982-7, 1983-7, 1984-7, 1985-6
Rush/Receive TDs: 1977-2t, 1980-6


Among the league's all-time top 50
Rushes: 9
Rushing yards: 7
Rushing TDs: 19
Yards from scrimmage: 9
Rush/Receive TDs: 26t


Postseason data
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Year Opp Result | RSH YD TD | REC YD TD
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
1977 chi W,37-7 | 17 85 2 | 2 37 0
1977 min W,23-6 | 19 71 1 | 0 0 0
*1977 den W,27-10 | 15 66 1 | 2 11 0
1978 atl W,27-20 | 14 65 0 | 1 9 0
1978 ram W,28-0 | 17 101 1 | 2 15 0
*1978 pit L,31-35 | 16 96 0 | 5 44 0
1979 ram L,19-21 | 19 87 0 | 0 0 0
1980 ram W,34-13 | 22 160 1 | 3 28 1
1980 atl W,30-27 | 10 51 0 | 5 40 0
1980 phi L,7-20 | 13 41 1 | 3 27 0
1981 tam W,38-0 | 16 86 1 | 4 48 0
1981 sfo L,27-28 | 22 91 1 | 0 0 0
1982 tam W,30-17 | 26 110 0 | 2 14 0
1982 gnb W,37-26 | 27 99 0 | 3 9 0
1982 was L,17-31 | 15 57 0 | 2 29 0
1983 ram L,17-24 | 17 59 0 | 4 12 0
1985 ram L,0-20 | 17 58 0 | 8 80 0
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
TOTAL | 302 1383 9 | 46 403 1


* - Super Bowl

Rain Man
02-11-2007, 05:47 PM
Candidate #6: Franco Harris

Running Back >>> 6-2, 230
(Penn State)
1972-1983 Pittsburgh Steelers, 1984 Seattle Seahawks

Franco Harris. . .No. 1 draft pick, 1972. . .Provided big-back power to Steelers offense. . .All-Pro, 1977, All-AFC three times. . .In eight Pro Bowls. . .158 yards rushing, MVP in Super Bowl IX . . .Rushed 1,000 yards eight seasons, 100 yards, 47 games. . .Career record: 12,120 yards, 91 TDs rushing; 2,287 yards, 9 TDs receiving; 14,622 combined net yards. . . 1,556 yards rushing in 19 post-season games. . . Born March 7, 1950, in Fort Dix, New Jersey.

Franco Harris began his pro football career as the Pittsburgh Steelers' No.1 pick and the 13th player selected in the 1972 NFL Draft. For 12 seasons, the 6-2, 230-pounder from Penn State was a big-yardage running back, a key man in the powerful Pittsburgh offensive machine, which also included an outstanding passing attack.

Harris established himself as a future superstar when he became only the fourth rookie in NFL annals to rush for 1,000 yards. He gained additional attention by being on the receiving end of the famous "Immaculate Reception" pass from Terry Bradshaw that gave the Steelers their first-ever playoff win, a 13-7 victory over the Oakland Raiders. In his 13 seasons, the last of which was spent with the Seattle Seahawks in 1984, Harris rushed 2,949 times for 12,120 yards and 91 touchdowns.

He rushed for 1,000 yards or more eight seasons and for more than 100 yards in 47 games. He also caught 307 passes for 2,287 yards and nine touchdowns. His career rushing total and his combined net yardage figure of 14,622 both ranked as the third highest marks in pro football history at the time of his retirement.

Harris, who was born in Fort Dix, New Jersey, on March 7, 1950, was an All-AFC choice in 1972, 1975, 1976, and 1977 and first- or second-team All-Pro six times. He was selected to nine Pro Bowls. Franco played in five AFC championships – missing a sixth because of injury – and four Super Bowls.

In Super Bowl IX, when the Steelers won their first-ever league title with a 16-6 victory over Minnesota, Harris rushed for 158 yards, compared to just 17 yards rushing for the entire Viking team. He was named the game's Most Valuable Player. Harris held numerous Super Bowl and post-season game records by the end of his career. The most notable include 24 points and 354 yards rushing in four Super Bowls and 17 touchdowns and 1,556 yards rushing in 19 post-season playoff games.


| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1972 pit | 14 | 188 1055 5.6 10 | 21 180 8.6 1 |
| 1973 pit | 12 | 188 698 3.7 3 | 10 69 6.9 0 |
| 1974 pit | 12 | 208 1006 4.8 5 | 23 200 8.7 1 |
| 1975 pit | 14 | 262 1246 4.8 10 | 28 214 7.6 1 |
| 1976 pit | 14 | 289 1128 3.9 14 | 23 151 6.6 0 |
| 1977 pit | 14 | 300 1162 3.9 11 | 11 62 5.6 0 |
| 1978 pit | 16 | 310 1082 3.5 8 | 22 144 6.5 0 |
| 1979 pit | 15 | 267 1186 4.4 11 | 36 291 8.1 1 |
| 1980 pit | 13 | 208 789 3.8 4 | 30 196 6.5 2 |
| 1981 pit | 16 | 242 987 4.1 8 | 37 250 6.8 1 |
| 1982 pit | 9 | 140 604 4.3 2 | 31 249 8.0 0 |
| 1983 pit | 16 | 279 1007 3.6 5 | 34 278 8.2 2 |
| 1984 sea | 8 | 68 170 2.5 0 | 1 3 3.0 0 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 173 | 2949 12120 4.1 91 | 307 2287 7.4 9 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+


Seasons among the league's top 10
Rushes: 1974-9, 1975-5, 1976-4t, 1977-4, 1978-2, 1979-6, 1983-10
Rushing yards: 1972-6, 1974-5, 1975-2, 1976-7, 1977-4, 1978-7, 1979-8, 1982-9
Rushing TDs: 1972-3, 1975-6t, 1976-1, 1977-3, 1978-9t, 1979-6t
Yards from scrimmage: 1974-8, 1975-4, 1977-9, 1979-10
Rush/Receive TDs: 1972-7, 1975-7t, 1976-1t, 1977-4, 1979-7t


Among the league's all-time top 50
Rushes: 8
Rushing yards: 11
Rushing TDs: 10t
Yards from scrimmage: 16
Rush/Receive TDs: 19t


Postseason data
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Year Opp Result | RSH YD TD | REC YD TD
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
1972 oak W,13-7 | 18 64 0 | 5 96 1
1972 mia L,17-21 | 16 76 0 | 2 3 0
1973 oak L,14-33 | 10 29 0 | 0 0 0
1974 buf W,32-14 | 24 74 3 | 1 5 0
1974 oak W,24-13 | 29 111 2 | 0 0 0
*1974 min W,16-6 | 34 158 1 | 0 0 0
1975 bal W,28-10 | 27 153 1 | 0 0 0
1975 oak W,16-10 | 27 79 1 | 5 58 0
*1975 dal W,21-17 | 27 82 0 | 1 26 0
1976 bal W,40-14 | 18 132 0 | 3 24 0
1977 den L,21-34 | 28 92 1 | 4 20 0
1978 den W,33-10 | 24 105 2 | 0 0 0
1978 hou W,34-5 | 20 51 1 | 0 0 0
*1978 dal W,35-31 | 20 68 1 | 1 22 0
1979 mia W,34-14 | 21 83 1 | 5 32 0
1979 hou W,27-13 | 21 85 0 | 6 50 0
*1979 ram W,31-19 | 20 46 2 | 3 66 0
1982 sdg L,28-31 | 10 35 0 | 11 71 0
1983 rai L,10-38 | 6 33 0 | 4 31 0
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
TOTAL | 400 1556 16 | 51 504 1


* - Super Bowl

Rain Man
02-11-2007, 05:48 PM
Candidate #7: Leroy Kelly

Running Back >>> 6-0, 202
(Morgan State)
1964-1973 Cleveland Browns

Leroy Kelly. . .Eighth-round draft choice, 1964. . .1,000-yard rusher first three years after becoming regular in 1966. . . Won NFL rushing titles, 1967, 1968. . .Two-time punt return champion: 1965 NFL, 1971 AFC. . . All-NFL five years, named to six Pro Bowls. . .Career stats: 7,274 yards rushing; 2,281 reception yards; 2,774 return yards; 12,330 combined yards; 90 touchdowns. . .Born May 20, 1942, in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

Leroy Kelly, in a 10-year tenure with the Cleveland Browns from 1964 through 1973, established himself as one of the most feared ball carriers in the history of the National Football League.

Overall, he rushed for 7,274 yards and ranked among the top 20 all-time rushers until midway through 1993 season. He added 2,281 yards on 190 pass receptions and excelled as a punt and kickoff return specialist, particularly in his early years in the NFL. His combined net yards total of 12,330 on rushes, receptions and returns ranks him among the best ever.

Kelly was an eighth-round pick of the Browns in the 1964 draft after a fine four-year career at Morgan State. For his first two years, he was an understudy to Jim Brown, the most prolific ground-gainer in history up to that time. When Brown retired just before the 1966 campaign, Kelly filled the void in a manner seldom seen in pro football circles.

For the next three years, he rushed for 1,000 yards, winning All-NFL honors each year and being selected as a starter in three straight Pro Bowls. Kelly also played in three other Pro Bowls following the 1969, 1970 and 1971 seasons, and earned first-team All-NFL in 1969 and 1971.

During his career, he won four individual statistical championships, including NFL rushing titles in 1967 and 1968. In 1965, he won the NFL punt return title, an honor he repeated in the AFC in 1971. Noted as an exceptionally fine runner on muddy fields, the 6-0, 202-pound Kelly favored the famed Browns trap play up the middle for his major yardage ventures but he was equally devastating on sweeps or as a receiver. His quick-starting ability, along with a sense of balance and knack of evading direct hits by tacklers, kept him relatively injury-free, missing only four games in 10 years and never more than one game per season.


+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1964 cle | 14 | 6 12 2.0 0 | 0 0 0.0 0 |
| 1965 cle | 13 | 37 139 3.8 0 | 9 122 13.6 0 |
| 1966 cle | 14 | 209 1141 5.5 15 | 32 366 11.4 1 |
| 1967 cle | 14 | 235 1205 5.1 11 | 20 282 14.1 2 |
| 1968 cle | 14 | 248 1239 5.0 16 | 22 297 13.5 4 |
| 1969 cle | 13 | 196 817 4.2 9 | 20 267 13.3 1 |
| 1970 cle | 13 | 206 656 3.2 6 | 24 311 13.0 2 |
| 1971 cle | 14 | 234 865 3.7 10 | 25 252 10.1 2 |
| 1972 cle | 14 | 224 811 3.6 4 | 23 204 8.9 1 |
| 1973 cle | 13 | 132 389 2.9 3 | 15 180 12.0 0 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 136 | 1727 7274 4.2 74 | 190 2281 12.0 13 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+


Seasons among the league's top 10
Rushes: 1966-4, 1967-1, 1968-1, 1969-5, 1970-7t, 1971-4, 1972-8
Rushing yards: 1966-2, 1967-1, 1968-1, 1969-7, 1971-8
Rushing TDs: 1966-1, 1967-1, 1968-1, 1969-2, 1970-9t, 1971-2
Yards from scrimmage: 1966-2, 1967-1, 1968-1, 1969-7, 1971-9
Rush/Receive TDs: 1966-1t, 1967-2, 1968-1, 1969-5t, 1971-2


Among the league's all-time top 50
Rushes: 45
Rushing yards: 44
Rushing TDs: 21t
Rush/Receive TDs: 32t


Postseason data
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Year Opp Result | RSH YD TD | REC YD TD
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
1967 dal L,14-52 | 15 96 0 | 4 39 0
1968 dal W,31-20 | 20 87 1 | 2 46 1
1968 bal L,0-34 | 13 28 0 | 3 27 0
1969 dal W,38-14 | 19 66 1 | 2 10 0
1969 min L,7-27 | 15 80 0 | 2 17 0
1971 bal L,3-20 | 14 49 0 | 4 24 0
1972 mia L,14-20 | 4 11 0 | 1 27 0
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
TOTAL | 100 417 2 | 18 190 1

Rain Man
02-11-2007, 05:51 PM
Candidate #8: Walter Payton

Running Back >>> 5-10, 200
(Jackson State)
1975-1987 Chicago Bears

Walter Jerry Payton . . .First-round pick, 1975 draft. . . Quickly established himself as super star. . .Retired as all-time leader in rushing, combined net yards. . . Career stats: 16,726 yards, 110 TDs rushing; 492 receptions for 4,538 yards; 21,803 combined net yards, 125 touchdowns. . .All-Pro seven times. . .Played in nine Pro Bowls. . . Held single-game rushing record of 275 yards. . . Had 77 games over 100 yards rushing. . .Born July 25, 1954, in Columbia, Mississippi. . . Died November 1, 1999, at age of 45.


Walter Payton, the Chicago Bears' first-round choice and the fourth player selected in the 1975 National Football League Draft, developed into a superstar of unusual dimensions during his 13-season NFL tenure from 1975 to 1987, all of which he spent with the Chicago Bears.

The 5-10, 200-pound running back who rushed for 3,563 yards in four seasons at Jackson State went on to dominate the rushing section of the NFL record book during and long after his career ended.

The records he held at the time of his retirement included 16,726 total yards, 10 seasons with 1,000 or more yards rushing, 275 yards rushing in one game against Minnesota (1977), 77 games with more than 100 yards rushing, and 110 rushing touchdowns. Payton had 4,368 combined net attempts and accounted for 21,803 combined net yards. He also scored an impressive 750 points on 125 touchdowns.

Payton won the NFC rushing title five straight years from 1976 to 1980. He also led the NFC with 96 points in 1977 and won the NFL kickoff return championship in his rookie 1975 campaign. He was named both All-Pro and All-NFC seven times and played in nine Pro Bowl games. Payton was selected as the NFL's Most Valuable Player in 1977 and 1985, the NFL Offensive Player of the Year in 1977 and 1985 and the NFC Most Valuable Player in 1977.

An amazing runner, Walter rushed for more than 1,000 yards 10 of his 13 seasons. His best season came in 1977, when he ran for 1,852 yards, third best in history at that time. Payton's 492 career pass receptions for 4,538 yards and 15 touchdowns contributed to his exceptional combined net yard totals.

Extremely durable, Payton missed one game in his rookie campaign and then played in 186 consecutive games.


| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1975 chi | 13 | 196 679 3.5 7 | 33 213 6.5 0 |
| 1976 chi | 14 | 311 1390 4.5 13 | 15 149 9.9 0 |
| 1977 chi | 14 | 339 1852 5.5 14 | 27 269 10.0 2 |
| 1978 chi | 16 | 333 1395 4.2 11 | 50 480 9.6 0 |
| 1979 chi | 16 | 369 1610 4.4 14 | 31 313 10.1 2 |
| 1980 chi | 16 | 317 1460 4.6 6 | 46 367 8.0 1 |
| 1981 chi | 16 | 339 1222 3.6 6 | 41 379 9.2 2 |
| 1982 chi | 9 | 148 596 4.0 1 | 32 311 9.7 0 |
| 1983 chi | 16 | 314 1421 4.5 6 | 53 607 11.5 2 |
| 1984 chi | 16 | 381 1684 4.4 11 | 45 368 8.2 0 |
| 1985 chi | 16 | 324 1551 4.8 9 | 49 483 9.9 2 |
| 1986 chi | 16 | 321 1333 4.2 8 | 37 382 10.3 3 |
| 1987 chi | 12 | 146 533 3.7 4 | 33 217 6.6 1 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 190 | 3838 16726 4.4 110 | 492 4538 9.2 15 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+


Seasons among the league's top 10
Rushes: 1976-1, 1977-1, 1978-1, 1979-1, 1980-2, 1981-4, 1982-10, 1983-6, 1984-2, 1985-4, 1986-4
Rushing yards: 1976-2, 1977-1, 1978-2, 1979-2, 1980-2, 1981-8, 1982-10, 1983-4, 1984-2, 1985-3, 1986-5
Rushing TDs: 1976-2t, 1977-1, 1978-3t, 1979-2t, 1984-7, 1985-8t, 1986-10t
Yards from scrimmage: 1976-4, 1977-1, 1978-1, 1979-2, 1980-3, 1981-9, 1982-9, 1983-3, 1984-3, 1985-3, 1986-5
Rush/Receive TDs: 1976-3, 1977-1, 1978-5t, 1979-2, 1984-10t, 1985-9t, 1986-9t


Among the league's all-time top 50
Rushes: 2
Rushing yards: 2
Rushing TDs: 3
Yards from scrimmage: 3
Rush/Receive TDs: 7


Postseason data
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Year Opp Result | RSH YD TD | REC YD TD
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
1977 dal L,7-37 | 19 60 0 | 3 33 0
1979 phi L,17-27 | 16 67 2 | 3 52 0
1984 was W,23-19 | 24 104 0 | 1 12 0
1984 sfo L,0-23 | 22 92 0 | 3 11 0
1985 nyg W,21-0 | 27 93 0 | 1 4 0
1985 ram W,24-0 | 18 32 0 | 7 48 0
*1985 nwe W,46-10 | 22 61 0 | 0 0 0
1986 was L,13-27 | 14 38 0 | 1 -2 0
1987 was L,17-21 | 18 85 0 | 3 20 0
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
TOTAL | 180 632 2 | 22 178 0


* - Super Bowl

Rain Man
02-11-2007, 05:53 PM
Candidate #9: John Riggins

Running Back >>> 6-2, 230
(Kansas)
1971-1975 New York Jets, 1976-1979, 1981-1985 Washington Redskins

Robert John Riggins. . .Kansas All-America. . .No. 1 draft pick, 1971. . .Career record: 11,352 yards, 104 TDs rushing; 2,090 yards receiving; 13,442 combined net yards, 116 TDs. . .Most Valuable Player with 166 rushing yards, 43-yard winning touchdown, Super Bowl XVII. . .Had five 1,000-yard rushing seasons. . .Played in 1976 Pro Bowl. . .All-NFL, 1983 . . .Voluntarily sat out 1980 season. . .Born August 4, 1949, in Seneca, Kansas.

Running back John Riggins played 175 games in 14 seasons with the New York Jets and Washington Redskins. A Big Eight rushing champion who broke Gale Sayers’ rushing record at the University of Kansas, Riggins was the first pick of the New York Jets and the sixth player selected in the 1971 NFL Draft.

He played in New York for five years but signed with the Redskins in 1976 as a free agent. His nine-year tenure with the Redskins was interrupted in 1980, when he voluntarily sat out the season.

The 6-2, 230-pound Riggins was not a spectacular running back but he was a classic workhorse ball carrier who specialized in the tough yardage in the big games. He carried 2,916 times for 11,352 yards and 104 touchdowns during his career. He also caught 250 passes for 2,090 yards and 12 touchdowns. His 13,435 combined net yards are among the best ever, as is his 116 touchdowns by rushing and receiving.

Riggins played in the 1982 and 1983 NFC championship games and Super Bowls XVII and XVIII and made the most of his comparatively few postseason appearances. He was the Most Valuable Player in Super Bowl XVII with a then-record 38 carries for 166 yards. He capped off his big day with a 43-yard touchdown run that clinched Washington's 27-17 victory over Miami.

Riggins rushed over 1,000 yards five times in his career and over 100 yards in 35 games, including a then-record six in post-season. He rushed 251 times for 996 yards and 12 touchdowns in nine post-season contests. Riggins followed his Super Bowl XVII success with a sensational season in 1983 when he rushed for a career-high 1,347 yards and a then-record 24 touchdowns. Following that season he was named All-Pro for the first time in his illustrious career.



| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1971 nyj | 14 | 180 769 4.3 1 | 36 231 6.4 2 |
| 1972 nyj | 12 | 207 944 4.6 7 | 21 230 11.0 1 |
| 1973 nyj | 11 | 134 482 3.6 4 | 23 158 6.9 0 |
| 1974 nyj | 10 | 169 680 4.0 5 | 19 180 9.5 2 |
| 1975 nyj | 14 | 238 1005 4.2 8 | 30 363 12.1 1 |
| 1976 was | 14 | 162 572 3.5 3 | 21 172 8.2 1 |
| 1977 was | 5 | 68 203 3.0 0 | 7 95 13.6 2 |
| 1978 was | 15 | 248 1014 4.1 5 | 31 299 9.6 0 |
| 1979 was | 16 | 260 1153 4.4 9 | 28 163 5.8 3 |
| 1981 was | 15 | 195 714 3.7 13 | 6 59 9.8 0 |
| 1982 was | 8 | 177 553 3.1 3 | 10 50 5.0 0 |
| 1983 was | 15 | 375 1347 3.6 24 | 5 29 5.8 0 |
| 1984 was | 14 | 327 1239 3.8 14 | 7 43 6.1 0 |
| 1985 was | 12 | 176 677 3.8 8 | 6 18 3.0 0 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 175 | 2916 11352 3.9 104 | 250 2090 8.4 12 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+


Seasons among the league's top 10
Rushes: 1975-7, 1978-9, 1979-8, 1982-1t, 1983-2, 1984-5
Rushing yards: 1975-7, 1979-9, 1983-5, 1984-6
Rushing TDs: 1975-10t, 1979-9t, 1981-2t, 1983-1, 1984-1t
Yards from scrimmage: 1975-6
Rush/Receive TDs: 1979-7t, 1981-5t, 1983-1, 1984-3t


Among the league's all-time top 50
Rushes: 10
Rushing yards: 13
Rushing TDs: 5
Yards from scrimmage: 23
Rush/Receive TDs: 9t


Postseason data
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Year Opp Result | RSH YD TD | REC YD TD
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
1976 min L,20-35 | 7 30 0 | 4 29 0
1982 det W,31-7 | 25 119 0 | 0 0 0
1982 min W,21-7 | 37 185 1 | 0 0 0
1982 dal W,31-17 | 36 140 2 | 0 0 0
*1982 mia W,27-17 | 38 166 1 | 1 15 0
1983 ram W,51-7 | 25 119 3 | 0 0 0
1983 sfo W,24-21 | 36 123 2 | 0 0 0
*1983 rai L,9-38 | 26 64 1 | 1 1 0
1984 chi L,19-23 | 21 50 2 | 0 0 0
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
TOTAL | 251 996 12 | 6 45 0


* - Super Bowl

Rain Man
02-11-2007, 05:54 PM
Candidate #10: Barry Sanders

Running Back >>> 5-8, 203
(Oklahoma State)
1989-1998 Detroit Lions

Barry David Sanders. . .Detroit's first-round draft pick, 1989. . .Electrifying running style. . .First player to rush for 1,000 yards his first 10 seasons. . .Led NFL in rushing four times. . .NFL's MVP, 1997. . .Gained 2,053 yards including record 14 straight 100-yard games, 1997. . .Career rushing record: 15,269 yards, 99 TDs. . .First- or second-team All-NFL each of his 10 seasons. . .Selected to 10 Pro Bowls. . .Born July 16, 1968, in Wichita, Kansas.

One of the game’s most electrifying runners, Barry Sanders rushed for more than 1,000 yards in each of his 10 seasons with the Detroit Lions (1989-1998). He was the first running back ever to do so. The 1988 Heisman Trophy winner was also just the third person to gain more than 2,000 yards in a season, a feat he accomplished in 1997.
Sanders, after forgoing his senior season at Oklahoma State, made his pro debut just three days after signing with the Lions, who had made him their first-round pick and the third overall pick in the 1989 draft. He absolutely dazzled a Pontiac Silverdome crowd when he dashed for an 18-yard gain on his first carry as an NFL running back. But that was just the beginning. His 1,470 yards rushing that season, a-then Lions record, fell just 10 yards short of the league’s best for the year.

In 1990, Sanders, with 1,304 yards rushing, topped all ground gainers, something he would do again in 1994 (1,883 yards) and in 1996 (1,553 yards). His 44 receptions for 283 yards in 1994 gave him a combined 2,166 yards from scrimmage. The most impressive feat of his remarkable career, however, came in 1997, when he rushed for a league-best 2,053 yards and gained another 305 yards on 33 catches for an amazing 2,358 combined yards gained. That year, Sanders, who was named league Most Valuable Player, gained more than 100 yards rushing in an NFL record 14 consecutive regular season games.

Though not big by most standards, Sanders capitalized on his size by running low to the ground making him less of a target for would-be tacklers. His elusiveness and ability to reverse direction seemingly at will, often left defensive players grasping at air. “He makes you miss so bad, you kind of look up in the stands and wonder if anybody’s looking at you,” Atlanta Falcons cornerback D.J. Johnson once remarked. “You’ve got 60,000 people in there and you wonder if anyone saw you miss that tackle.”

A first- or second-team All-Pro ten consecutive seasons, Sanders became the first NFL running back to record five 1,500-yard rushing seasons, in addition to being the only back to do so in four consecutive seasons (1994-1997).

Selected to play in the Pro Bowl each of his 10 NFL seasons, Sanders held nearly every Lions’ rushing record and numerous all-time NFL records, at the time of his retirement.



| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1989 det | 15 | 280 1470 5.2 14 | 24 282 11.8 0 |
| 1990 det | 16 | 255 1304 5.1 13 | 36 480 13.3 3 |
| 1991 det | 15 | 342 1548 4.5 16 | 41 307 7.5 1 |
| 1992 det | 16 | 312 1352 4.3 9 | 29 225 7.8 1 |
| 1993 det | 11 | 243 1115 4.6 3 | 36 205 5.7 0 |
| 1994 det | 16 | 331 1883 5.7 7 | 44 283 6.4 1 |
| 1995 det | 16 | 314 1500 4.8 11 | 48 398 8.3 1 |
| 1996 det | 16 | 307 1553 5.1 11 | 24 147 6.1 0 |
| 1997 det | 16 | 335 2053 6.1 11 | 33 305 9.2 3 |
| 1998 det | 16 | 343 1491 4.3 4 | 37 289 7.8 0 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 153 | 3062 15269 5.0 99 | 352 2921 8.3 10 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+


Seasons among the league's top 10
Rushes: 1989-7, 1990-6, 1991-2, 1992-3t, 1993-9, 1994-4, 1995-7, 1996-8t, 1997-4, 1998-5
Rushing yards: 1989-2, 1990-1, 1991-2, 1992-4, 1993-5, 1994-1, 1995-2, 1996-1, 1997-1, 1998-4
Rushing TDs: 1989-2t, 1990-3, 1991-1, 1992-5t, 1994-8t, 1995-4t, 1996-6t, 1997-3t
Yards from scrimmage: 1989-3, 1990-2, 1991-2, 1992-6, 1993-10, 1994-1, 1995-2, 1996-3, 1997-1, 1998-5
Rush/Receive TDs: 1989-5t, 1990-1, 1991-1, 1996-9t, 1997-3


Among the league's all-time top 50
Rushes: 5
Rushing yards: 3
Rushing TDs: 8
Yards from scrimmage: 5
Rush/Receive TDs: 13


Postseason data
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Year Opp Result | RSH YD TD | REC YD TD
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
1991 dal W,38-6 | 12 69 1 | 5 30 0
1991 was L,10-41 | 11 44 0 | 4 15 0
1993 gnb L,24-28 | 27 169 0 | 2 0 0
1994 gnb L,12-16 | 13 -1 0 | 3 4 0
1995 phi L,37-58 | 10 40 0 | 2 19 0
1997 tam L,10-20 | 18 65 0 | 5 43 0
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
TOTAL | 91 386 1 | 21 111 0

Rain Man
02-11-2007, 05:56 PM
Candidate #11: Gale Sayers

Halfback >>> 6-0, 198
(Kansas)
1965-1971 Chicago Bears

Gale Eugene Sayers. . .Kansas All-America. . .Exceptional break-away runner. . .Scored rookie record 22 TDs, 132 points, 1965. . .Led NFL rushers, 1966, 1969. . .Named all-time NFL halfback, 1969. . . All-NFL five straight years. . .Player of Game in three Pro Bowls. . .Career totals: 9,435 combined net yards, 4,956 yards rushing, 336 points. . . NFL lifetime kickoff return leader. . .Born May 30, 1943, in Wichita, Kansas.


Gale Sayers burst upon the pro football scene in 1965 with the kind of an impact that the sport had not felt in many years. It is difficult to imagine a more dynamic debut than the one he enjoyed as a rookie. In his first heavy pre-season action, he raced 77 yards on a punt return, 93 yards on a kickoff return, and then startled everyone with a 25-yard scoring pass against the Los Angeles Rams.

In regular season, he scored four touchdowns, including a 96-yard game breaking kickoff return, against the Minnesota Vikings. And, in the next-to-last game, playing on a muddy field that would have stalled most runners, Gale scored a record-tying six touchdowns against the San Francisco 49ers. Included in his sensational spree were an 80-yard pass-run play, a 50-yard rush and a 65-yard punt return. For the entire season, Gale scored 22 touchdowns and 132 points, both then-rookie records.

Quiet, unassuming, and always ready to compliment a teammate for a key block, Sayers continued to sizzle in 1967 and well into the 1968 season. Then, in the ninth game, Sayers suffered a knee injury that required immediate surgery.

After a tortuous rehabilitation program, Gale came back in 1969 in a most spectacular manner, winding up with his second 1,000-yard rushing season and universal Comeback of the Year honors. But injuries continued to take their toll and, just before the 1972 season, Gale finally had to call it quits.

In his relatively short career, he compiled a record that can never be forgotten. His totals show 9,435 combined net yards, 4,956 yards rushing, and 336 points scored. At the time of his retirement he was the NFL's all-time leader in kickoff returns. He won All-NFL honors five straight years and was named Offensive Player of the Game in three of the four Pro Bowls in which he played.


| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1965 chi | 14 | 166 867 5.2 14 | 29 507 17.5 6 |
| 1966 chi | 14 | 229 1231 5.4 8 | 34 447 13.1 2 |
| 1967 chi | 13 | 186 880 4.7 7 | 16 126 7.9 1 |
| 1968 chi | 9 | 138 856 6.2 2 | 15 117 7.8 0 |
| 1969 chi | 14 | 236 1032 4.4 8 | 17 116 6.8 0 |
| 1970 chi | 2 | 23 52 2.3 0 | 1 -6 -6.0 0 |
| 1971 chi | 2 | 13 38 2.9 0 | 0 0 0.0 0 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 68 | 991 4956 5.0 39 | 112 1307 11.7 9 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+


Seasons among the league's top 10
Rushes: 1965-7, 1966-3, 1967-7, 1969-1
Rushing yards: 1965-2, 1966-1, 1967-3, 1968-5, 1969-1
Rushing TDs: 1965-2, 1966-2t, 1967-4, 1969-3t
Yards from scrimmage: 1965-3, 1966-1, 1969-4
Rush/Receive TDs: 1965-2, 1966-6t

Gale Sayers is not in the all-time top 50 in any major category.


Postseason data
None available.

Rain Man
02-11-2007, 05:58 PM
Candidate #12: O.J. Simpson

Running Back >>> 6-1, 212
(City College-San Francisco, Southern California)
1969-1977 Buffalo Bills, 1978-1979 San Francisco 49ers

Orenthal James Simpson. . .Heisman Trophy winner, 1968. . .No. 1 NFL draft pick, 1969. . .Career highlighted by 2,003 yards rushing, 1973. . . Unanimous All-Pro, topped 1,000 yards rushing, 1972-1976. . .Won four NFL rushing titles. . . Career record: 11,236 yards rushing, 203 receptions, 990 yards kickoff returns, 14,368 combined net yards. . .In 1969 AFL All-Star game, five Pro Bowls. . .1973 Pro Bowl Player of the Game. . . Born July 9, 1947, in San Francisco, California.

O. J. Simpson, a two-time All-America from the University of Southern California and the 1968 Heisman Trophy winner, was one of history's most heralded rookies when the Buffalo Bills selected him as the No. 1 player in the entire 1969 draft.

His career record for 11 seasons, the first nine in Buffalo and the 1978 and 1979 campaigns in San Francisco, confirms the rave notices were well founded. He rushed for 11,236 yards, added 2,142 yards on 203 pass receptions, returned 33 kickoffs 990 yards for a superb 30-yard average, and amassed 14,368 combined net yards. He scored 456 points on 76 touchdowns.

O. J. was not an immediate success and, in fact, did not even win Rookie of the Year acclaim in 1969. Incredibly, he was used sparingly as a running back through his first three campaigns until Lou Saban took over the reins in 1972 and immediately decided to give the 6-1, 212-pound speedster the football as often as possible.

Simpson immediately responded with massive ground-gaining performances. O.J. may be best remembered for his sensational 1973 season when he became the first back in history to rush for over 2,000 yards. With 219 yards in the next-to-last game against New England and a 200-yard output in the finale with the New York Jets, Simpson totaled 2,003 yards, tops for a 14-game season.

Many say the 1975 season was even better - 1,817 yards rushing, 426 yards on receptions and a then-record 23 touchdowns. O.J. led the league in rushing four years in 1972, 1973, 1975 and 1976.

In various selections, he was named NFL Player of the Year in 1972, 1973 and 1975. He was both All-AFC and All-Pro five straight years from 1972 through 1976. He played in six Pro Bowls, winning Player of the Game honors in the 1973 game.


| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1969 buf | 13 | 181 697 3.9 2 | 30 343 11.4 3 |
| 1970 buf | 8 | 120 488 4.1 5 | 10 139 13.9 0 |
| 1971 buf | 14 | 183 742 4.1 5 | 21 162 7.7 0 |
| 1972 buf | 14 | 292 1251 4.3 6 | 27 198 7.3 0 |
| 1973 buf | 14 | 332 2003 6.0 12 | 6 70 11.7 0 |
| 1974 buf | 14 | 270 1125 4.2 3 | 15 189 12.6 1 |
| 1975 buf | 14 | 329 1817 5.5 16 | 28 426 15.2 7 |
| 1976 buf | 14 | 290 1503 5.2 8 | 22 259 11.8 1 |
| 1977 buf | 7 | 126 557 4.4 0 | 16 138 8.6 0 |
| 1978 sfo | 10 | 161 593 3.7 1 | 21 172 8.2 2 |
| 1979 sfo | 13 | 120 460 3.8 3 | 7 46 6.6 0 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 135 | 2404 11236 4.7 61 | 203 2142 10.6 14 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+


Seasons among the league's top 10
Rushes: 1969-5*, 1972-2, 1973-1, 1974-1, 1975-1, 1976-3
Rushing yards: 1969-6*, 1972-1, 1973-1, 1974-3, 1975-1, 1976-1
Rushing TDs: 1973-1t, 1975-1t, 1976-7t
Receiving TDs: 1975-9t
Yards from scrimmage: 1969-5*, 1972-3, 1973-1, 1974-5, 1975-1, 1976-1
Rush/Receive TDs: 1973-5, 1975-1
* - AFL


Among the league's all-time top 50
Rushes: 18
Rushing yards: 15
Rushing TDs: 33t
Yards from scrimmage: 25


Postseason data
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Year Opp Result | RSH YD TD | REC YD TD
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
1974 pit L,14-32 | 15 49 0 | 3 37 1
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
TOTAL | 15 49 0 | 3 37 1

CoMoChief
02-11-2007, 06:05 PM
I think the 10,000 yd mark is a good measurement for the HOF. So is 100 total TD's. It amazes me how Larry Csonka is in the HOF, same goes with Gale Sayers.

Rain Man
02-11-2007, 06:06 PM
Candidate #13: Thurman Thomas

Running Back >>> 5-10, 198
(Oklahoma State)
1988-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Miami Dolphins

Bills’ second round in 1988 NFL Draft. . .Led NFL in total yards from scrimmage a record four consecutive seasons. . .NFL’s Most Valuable Player, 1991. . .Rushed for 1,000 yards in eight consecutive seasons. . .Career numbers include 12,074 yards rushing and 16,532 all-purpose yards. . .Selected to five consecutive Pro Bowls. . .First- or second-team All-Pro five straight years. . .All-AFC 1989-1993, All-AFC Second Team 1994. . . Born on May 16, 1966 in Houston, Texas.

Thurman Thomas slipped to the second round of the 1988 National Football League Draft due to concern about a knee injury he had suffered during his senior year at Oklahoma State. The Buffalo Bills, who had no first round pick that year, selected Thomas, an All-America running back, in the second round with the 40th overall pick.

In 1989, after an impressive rookie season that included a division title for the Bills, the multi-dimensional Thomas rushed for 1,000 yards, caught 60 passes, and scored 12 touchdowns in his second season.

His ability to catch the ball as well as run with it was a key ingredient to the Bills' "No Huddle" offensive attack. The team improved to 13-3 in 1990 as Thomas led the NFL in all-purpose yards. He rushed for 1,297 yards and scored 11 touchdowns while catching 49 passes for 532 yards and two touchdowns. With the versatile back leading the way, the Bills marched through the playoffs to the first of their unprecedented four straight Super Bowl berths.

Thomas rushed for 100 yards in each of the playoff games that post-season including Super Bowl XXV when he gained 135 yards on just 15 carries and scored on a 31-yard run early in the fourth quarter. He also had 5 receptions for 55 yards.

In 1991, Thomas amassed more than 2,000 all-purpose yards, just the 11th player ever to do so. His league-leading yardage output included 1,407 yards on the ground and an additional 631 yards on a career-high 62 receptions. He scored 12 touchdowns. He reached the 2,000-yard total again the following season which marked a record fourth straight season of leading the NFL in yards from scrimmage.

Named to the NFL's All-Decade Team of the 1990s, Thomas was selected first- or second-team All-Pro and All-AFC five times, and was voted to the Pro Bowl five straight years. Thomas retired as the NFL's ninth ranked rusher with 12,074 yards and added another 4,458 yards on 472 catches. He scored 65 rushing and 23 receiving touchdowns in his 13-season career.


+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1988 buf | 15 | 207 881 4.3 2 | 18 208 11.6 0 |
| 1989 buf | 16 | 298 1244 4.2 6 | 60 669 11.2 6 |
| 1990 buf | 16 | 271 1297 4.8 11 | 49 532 10.9 2 |
| 1991 buf | 15 | 288 1407 4.9 7 | 62 631 10.2 5 |
| 1992 buf | 16 | 312 1487 4.8 9 | 58 626 10.8 3 |
| 1993 buf | 16 | 355 1315 3.7 6 | 48 387 8.1 0 |
| 1994 buf | 15 | 287 1093 3.8 7 | 50 349 7.0 2 |
| 1995 buf | 14 | 267 1005 3.8 6 | 26 220 8.5 2 |
| 1996 buf | 15 | 281 1033 3.7 8 | 26 254 9.8 0 |
| 1997 buf | 16 | 154 643 4.2 1 | 30 208 6.9 0 |
| 1998 buf | 14 | 93 381 4.1 2 | 26 220 8.5 1 |
| 1999 buf | 5 | 36 152 4.2 0 | 3 37 12.3 1 |
| 2000 mia | 9 | 28 136 4.9 0 | 16 117 7.3 1 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 182 | 2877 12074 4.2 65 | 472 4458 9.4 23 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+


Seasons among the league's top 10
Rushes: 1989-5, 1990-3, 1991-3, 1992-3t, 1993-1, 1994-8
Rushing yards: 1989-6, 1990-2, 1991-3, 1992-3, 1993-3, 1994-6
Rushing TDs: 1990-5t, 1992-5t, 1994-8t, 1996-10t
Yards from scrimmage: 1989-1, 1990-1, 1991-1, 1992-1, 1993-2, 1994-8
Rush/Receive TDs: 1989-7t, 1990-4t, 1991-4t, 1992-5


Among the league's all-time top 50
Rushes: 11
Rushing yards: 12
Rushing TDs: 29t
Yards from scrimmage: 8
Rush/Receive TDs: 29t


Postseason data
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Year Opp Result | RSH YD TD | REC YD TD
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
1988 hou W,17-10 | 7 75 1 | 0 0 0
1988 cin L,10-21 | 4 6 0 | 0 0 0
1989 cle L,30-34 | 10 27 0 | 13 150 2
1990 mia W,44-34 | 32 117 2 | 3 38 0
1990 rai W,51-3 | 25 138 1 | 5 61 0
*1990 nyg L,19-20 | 15 135 1 | 5 55 0
1991 kan W,37-14 | 22 100 0 | 4 21 0
1991 den W,10-7 | 26 72 0 | 3 15 0
*1991 was L,24-37 | 10 13 1 | 4 27 0
1992 hou W,41-38 | 11 26 0 | 2 -3 0
1992 pit W,24-3 | 19 54 0 | 3 25 0
1992 mia W,29-10 | 20 96 0 | 5 70 1
*1992 dal L,17-52 | 11 19 1 | 4 10 0
1993 rai W,29-23 | 14 44 1 | 6 48 0
1993 kan W,30-13 | 33 186 3 | 2 22 0
*1993 dal L,13-30 | 16 37 1 | 7 52 0
1995 mia W,37-22 | 25 158 1 | 3 42 0
1995 pit L,21-40 | 13 46 1 | 3 12 1
1996 jax L,27-30 | 14 50 1 | 3 24 1
1998 mia L,17-24 | 7 33 1 | 1 3 0
1999 ten L,16-22 | 5 10 0 | 0 0 0
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
TOTAL | 339 1442 16 | 76 672 5


* - Super Bowl

Rain Man
02-11-2007, 06:07 PM
I apologize for the formatting. The Hall of Fame website is user-unfriendly.

Rain Man
02-11-2007, 06:08 PM
If anyone else wants to nominate a running back, now is your chance.

Buck
02-11-2007, 06:11 PM
Sorry Rain Man, but this is ridiculous.

Deberg_1990
02-11-2007, 06:13 PM
I think the 10,000 yd mark is a good measurement for the HOF. So is 100 total TD's. It amazes me how Larry Csonka is in the HOF, same goes with Gale Sayers.

Its all relative and perspective to the era....At the time those guys played in, there werent like 13-14 guys a year with 1000 yard rushing seasons...


But yes, their stats look somewhat tame by todays era....this is why its going to be hard for alot of today modern WR's to make it in.

I wish they would create a special rule to boot OJ Simpson out...

Rain Man
02-11-2007, 06:40 PM
Sorry Rain Man, but this is ridiculous.

Don't look now, but this is your chance to propose Ponderous Pete Johnson for the Hall of Fame.

Marlboro_Chief
02-11-2007, 07:53 PM
I realize it was a different era, but Leroy Kelly got in on essentially three great seasons.

KCChiefsMan
02-11-2007, 08:02 PM
I know I'm in the minority here, but I think that Terrell Davis derserves it. I honestly don't think the Broncos would have won those 2 superbowls if it weren't for him.

Simplex3
02-11-2007, 08:48 PM
Jim Brown, Walter Payton, and Barry Sanders. Nobody cares about the rest.

milkman
02-11-2007, 09:08 PM
I know I'm in the minority here, but I think that Terrell Davis derserves it. I honestly don't think the Broncos would have won those 2 superbowls if it weren't for him.

The Packers probably wouldn't have won their most SB without Desmond Howard.

Should he go in also?

CoMoChief
02-11-2007, 09:13 PM
Bo Jackson.

2 Words, Tecmo Bowl.

Thats what I would present to the HOF selection committee, I would just pop in the video game and play with the Raiders.

Deberg_1990
02-11-2007, 09:14 PM
I know I'm in the minority here, but I think that Terrell Davis derserves it. I honestly don't think the Broncos would have won those 2 superbowls if it weren't for him.


He was a great back, no doubt.....but its all about longetivity with him..or lack of it...

CoMoChief
02-11-2007, 09:14 PM
The Packers probably wouldn't have won their most SB without Desmond Howard.

Should he go in also?


Desmond Howard didnt do much besides that SB game.

TD was a dominant RB, and was also one of a handfull of RB's to run for over 2000yds.

milkman
02-11-2007, 09:19 PM
Desmond Howard didnt do much besides that SB game.

TD was a dominant RB, and was also one of a handfull of RB's to run for over 2000yds.

The point is that there are numerous examples of teams that couldn't have won a SB without certain players.

Some of them, like Davis, were very good players who did some great things while playing.

But they still didn't do enough to warrant HoF recognition.

CoMoChief
02-12-2007, 03:11 AM
The point is that there are numerous examples of teams that couldn't have won a SB without certain players.

Some of them, like Davis, were very good players who did some great things while playing.

But they still didn't do enough to warrant HoF recognition.


I think TD did enough personally to make the HoF. The only and ONLY thing keeping him from being a first ballot HoF'er is his lack of longevity in the league. But then again, Gale Sayers who is in the HoF, did less in the same amount of time and is in the HoF. Davis helped solidify one of the best offenses ever in this league. The HoF is just too inconsistent and alot of times focuses on certain teams that player has been apart of instead of personal achievements and how they effected the league they played in (Cmon Larry ****in Csonka?!?).

Terrell Davis Stats:
+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1995 den | 14 | 237 1117 4.7 7 | 49 367 7.5 1 |
| 1996 den | 16 | 345 1538 4.5 13 | 36 310 8.6 2 |
| 1997 den | 15 | 369 1750 4.7 15 | 42 287 6.8 0 |
| 1998 den | 16 | 392 2008 5.1 21 | 25 217 8.7 2 |
| 1999 den | 4 | 67 211 3.1 2 | 3 26 8.7 0 |
| 2000 den | 5 | 78 282 3.6 2 | 2 4 2.0 0 |
| 2001 den | 11 | 167 701 4.2 0 | 12 69 5.8 0 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 81 | 1655 7607 4.6 60 | 169 1280 7.6 5 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+


Gale Sayers Stats:
+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1965 chi | 14 | 166 867 5.2 14 | 29 507 17.5 6 |
| 1966 chi | 14 | 229 1231 5.4 8 | 34 447 13.1 2 |
| 1967 chi | 13 | 186 880 4.7 7 | 16 126 7.9 1 |
| 1968 chi | 9 | 138 856 6.2 2 | 15 117 7.8 0 |
| 1969 chi | 14 | 236 1032 4.4 8 | 17 116 6.8 0 |
| 1970 chi | 2 | 23 52 2.3 0 | 1 -6 -6.0 0 |
| 1971 chi | 2 | 13 38 2.9 0 | 0 0 0.0 0 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 68 | 991 4956 5.0 39 | 112 1307 11.7 9 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

Mile High Mania
02-12-2007, 05:51 AM
Sweet. It's great to see that the thread isn't 2 pages long yet and the Terrell Davis conversation has started!

Valiant
02-12-2007, 06:57 AM
Just because Gale and some others are honestly non deserving to be there does not mean TD should be there...

There should be a longevity requirement for domination to be included...

Molitoth
02-12-2007, 07:56 AM
Barry Sanders by far.

htismaqe
02-12-2007, 07:57 AM
The "longevity requirement" argument is bogus.

If someone COMPLETELY dominates for 4 or 5 years and then gets hurt, they shouldn't be penalized.

Nor should guys get in for mind-boggling career stats when they NEVER dominated at any point in there career, they just played 20 years.

Valiant
02-12-2007, 08:27 PM
The "longevity requirement" argument is bogus.

If someone COMPLETELY dominates for 4 or 5 years and then gets hurt, they shouldn't be penalized.

Nor should guys get in for mind-boggling career stats when they NEVER dominated at any point in there career, they just played 20 years.


Sorry but longevity should matter, You better be in quite a few top 10 category lists to be in the HOF at the time of your playing... These guys that had two or three great years should not get in, that is what your own teams ring of fame or hall of fame is for not Canton...

Bottom line you should be in top ten lists, and I also agree that guys that play for 20 years get handicap stats in the end, but those guys also managed to play for 20 years when the majority cant even play 3..

milkman
02-12-2007, 08:36 PM
I think TD did enough personally to make the HoF. The only and ONLY thing keeping him from being a first ballot HoF'er is his lack of longevity in the league. But then again, Gale Sayers who is in the HoF, did less in the same amount of time and is in the HoF. Davis helped solidify one of the best offenses ever in this league. The HoF is just too inconsistent and alot of times focuses on certain teams that player has been apart of instead of personal achievements and how they effected the league they played in (Cmon Larry ****in Csonka?!?).

Terrell Davis Stats:
+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1995 den | 14 | 237 1117 4.7 7 | 49 367 7.5 1 |
| 1996 den | 16 | 345 1538 4.5 13 | 36 310 8.6 2 |
| 1997 den | 15 | 369 1750 4.7 15 | 42 287 6.8 0 |
| 1998 den | 16 | 392 2008 5.1 21 | 25 217 8.7 2 |
| 1999 den | 4 | 67 211 3.1 2 | 3 26 8.7 0 |
| 2000 den | 5 | 78 282 3.6 2 | 2 4 2.0 0 |
| 2001 den | 11 | 167 701 4.2 0 | 12 69 5.8 0 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 81 | 1655 7607 4.6 60 | 169 1280 7.6 5 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+


Gale Sayers Stats:
+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1965 chi | 14 | 166 867 5.2 14 | 29 507 17.5 6 |
| 1966 chi | 14 | 229 1231 5.4 8 | 34 447 13.1 2 |
| 1967 chi | 13 | 186 880 4.7 7 | 16 126 7.9 1 |
| 1968 chi | 9 | 138 856 6.2 2 | 15 117 7.8 0 |
| 1969 chi | 14 | 236 1032 4.4 8 | 17 116 6.8 0 |
| 1970 chi | 2 | 23 52 2.3 0 | 1 -6 -6.0 0 |
| 1971 chi | 2 | 13 38 2.9 0 | 0 0 0.0 0 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 68 | 991 4956 5.0 39 | 112 1307 11.7 9 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+

I agree with what you're saying, except that I would argue that neither belong.

cdcox
02-12-2007, 08:51 PM
Rain Man: This is a worthwhile exercise, but you should reconsider the punter and kicker positions. I don't think they deserve equal representation among the other 22 starters. Or are we going to elect HOF return men? HOF long snappers? HOF place kick holders? HOF gunners?

After Ray Guy and Reggie Roby how are we going to have a serious conversation about punters (no disrespect to Thunderfoot)?

Let's redistribute the places (at least most of them) that you had designated to the kickers and punters to positional players. Or the "at large players" who didn't quite make the cut at their position.

Rain Man
02-13-2007, 11:13 PM
I would like to propose James Brooks, the great running back for the Bengals and Chargers. This guy was an awesome running back, as witnessed by his four pro bowls and his 4.7 ypc rushing average. He was also a receiving threat, with nearly 400 career receptions.

As quoted by wikipedia,

"A four time pro bowler (1986, 1988-1990), Brooks excelled at running, receiving, and kick returning. By the time he left the Bengals in 1991, he was the team's all time leading rusher with 6,447 yards(he has since been surpassed by Corey Dillon's 8,061 yards), and is still among the Bengals top 10 all time leading receivers with 297 receptions for 3,012 yards. By the time of his retirement after the 1993 season, Brooks amassed 7,962 rushing yards, 383 receptions for 3,621 receiving yards, 565 punt return yards, 2,762 kickoff return yards, and scored 79 touchdowns(49 rushing and 30 receiving). As of 2006, Brooks' 14,910 total net yards ranks him #21 on the NFL's list of career total net yard leaders.

His most memorable run happened in a December 7, 1986 game against the New England Patriots. In that play, Brooks made several cutbacks, broke several tackles and dragged the final 5 yards across the goal line for a 56-yard touchdown run for the Bengals.

Brooks made a Super Bowl appearance with the Bengals in Super Bowl XXIII. He also was a key participant in 2 of the most famous games in NFL Lore during his rookie season with the Chargers: The Epic In Miami, and the Freezer Bowl."



+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1981 sdg | 14 | 109 525 4.8 3 | 46 329 7.2 3 |
| 1982 sdg | 9 | 87 430 4.9 6 | 13 66 5.1 0 |
| 1983 sdg | 15 | 127 516 4.1 3 | 25 215 8.6 0 |
| 1984 cin | 15 | 103 396 3.8 2 | 34 268 7.9 2 |
| 1985 cin | 16 | 192 929 4.8 7 | 55 576 10.5 5 |
| 1986 cin | 16 | 205 1087 5.3 5 | 54 686 12.7 4 |
| 1987 cin | 9 | 94 290 3.1 1 | 22 272 12.4 2 |
| 1988 cin | 15 | 182 931 5.1 8 | 29 287 9.9 6 |
| 1989 cin | 16 | 221 1239 5.6 7 | 37 306 8.3 2 |
| 1990 cin | 16 | 195 1004 5.1 5 | 26 269 10.3 4 |
| 1991 cin | 15 | 152 571 3.8 2 | 40 348 8.7 2 |
| 1992 cle | 4 | 13 38 2.9 0 | 2 -1 -0.5 0 |
| 1992 tam | 2 | 5 6 1.2 0 | 0 0 0.0 0 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 162 | 1685 7962 4.7 49 | 383 3621 9.5 30 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+


Seasons among the league's top 10
Rushing yards: 1986-8, 1989-7, 1990-8
Rushing TDs: 1982-8t, 1989-10t
Yards from scrimmage: 1986-3, 1989-5, 1990-10
Rush/Receive TDs: 1985-7t, 1988-4t


Among the league's all-time top 50
Rushes: 48
Rushing yards: 39
Yards from scrimmage: 44
Rush/Receive TDs: 46t


Postseason data
Please read this fine print before using this data or sending questions or corrections.

Year Opp Result | RSH YD TD | REC YD TD
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
1981 mia W,41-38 | 3 19 0 | 4 31 2
1981 cin L,7-27 | 6 23 0 | 2 5 0
1982 pit W,31-28 | 3 20 1 | 1 4 0
1982 mia L,13-34 | 3 9 0 | 2 25 0
1988 sea W,21-13 | 13 72 0 | 1 9 0
1988 buf W,21-10 | 7 6 0 | 2 21 1
*1988 sfo L,16-20 | 6 24 0 | 1 20 0
1990 hou W,41-14 | 6 17 0 | 0 0 0
1990 rai L,10-20 | 11 26 0 | 1 22 0
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
TOTAL | 58 216 1 | 14 137 3


* - Super Bowl

Rain Man
02-13-2007, 11:20 PM
I would also like to nominate William Andrews, the premier running fullback of the 1980s while playing with Atlanta. Like Gale Sayers before him, albeit with a very different style, Andrews was a dominating running back until a severe knee injury cut short his promising career.

Andrews made four pro bowls in his first five years, and was the second player in NFL history to log two 2,000-total-yard seasons. He averaged 4.6 yards per carry and averaged over 50 catches per season before the injury.

As quoted by wikipedia

"Andrews played professionally with the Atlanta Falcons. After a promising beginning to his career (He was one of the first NFL players with two 2,000 yard rushing/receiving seasons to his credit), he sustained a serious knee injury during the 1984 preseason that sidelined him for two years. He returned in 1986 for one season, largely as a tight end, before retiring. To celebrate his career, his number (31) was retired and hasn't been used by any Atlanta player since."


| Rushing | Receiving |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| 1979 atl | 15 | 239 1023 4.3 3 | 39 309 7.9 2 |
| 1980 atl | 16 | 265 1308 4.9 4 | 51 456 8.9 1 |
| 1981 atl | 16 | 289 1301 4.5 10 | 81 735 9.1 2 |
| 1982 atl | 9 | 139 573 4.1 5 | 42 503 12.0 2 |
| 1983 atl | 16 | 331 1567 4.7 7 | 59 609 10.3 4 |
| 1986 atl | 15 | 52 214 4.1 1 | 5 35 7.0 0 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 87 | 1315 5986 4.6 30 | 277 2647 9.6 11 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+


Seasons among the league's top 10
Rushes: 1980-7, 1981-7, 1983-4
Rushing yards: 1980-4, 1981-7, 1983-2
Rushing TDs: 1981-7t, 1982-10t
Receptions: 1981-4, 1982-8t
Yards from scrimmage: 1980-4, 1981-1, 1982-2, 1983-2
Rush/Receive TDs: 1981-9t, 1982-9t

William Andrews is not in the all-time top 50 in any major category.


Postseason data
Please read this fine print before using this data or sending questions or corrections.

Year Opp Result | RSH YD TD | REC YD TD
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
1980 dal L,27-30 | 14 43 0 | 2 19 1
1982 min L,24-30 | 11 48 0 | 0 0 0
---------------------+-----------------+-----------------
TOTAL | 25 91 0 | 2 19 1

jlscorpio
02-13-2007, 11:23 PM
Dickerson was my favorite. His single-season record might be around for a while...

Rain Man
02-13-2007, 11:42 PM
Rain Man: This is a worthwhile exercise, but you should reconsider the punter and kicker positions. I don't think they deserve equal representation among the other 22 starters. Or are we going to elect HOF return men? HOF long snappers? HOF place kick holders? HOF gunners?

After Ray Guy and Reggie Roby how are we going to have a serious conversation about punters (no disrespect to Thunderfoot)?

Let's redistribute the places (at least most of them) that you had designated to the kickers and punters to positional players. Or the "at large players" who didn't quite make the cut at their position.

How about this? We give them half their designated number of spots, which will save four spots. We give three of those spots to QBs and one to a RB.

Rain Man
02-14-2007, 12:00 PM
Okay, so in the true and just Hall of Fame, we have 10 running backs. (I added one due to cdcox's appeal to reduce the number of kicking and punting positions.

The 10 are:

Marcus Allen
Earl Campbell
Eric Dickerson
Tony Dorsett
Franco Harris
Walter Payton
John Riggins
Barry Sanders
O.J. Simpson
Thurman Thomas (sigh)