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Easy 6
02-12-2007, 12:53 PM
Being that i am a serious history buff, i thought it would be interesting to hear about the travels of you Planeteers.

With such a diverse cross-section of people here, there should be a very wide variety of great places.

Civil War battlefields???

The Great Pyramids of Egypt???

Maybe the wonders of Greece or Rome???

South American ruins of the Aztecs & Maya etc.???

My best 2 would have to be the Custer National Battlefield & the Old State Capitol here in Springfield.

On the drive up to live in Montana we went way out of the way to stop at the Custer site, i as a 9 year old boy only had a passing, 9 year olds knowledge of the event yet i was totally blown away by the vibe of that place. Even as a young boy i could feel the "heaviness" in the air on that barren, desolate plain. You almost felt as if it just happened. I have never been to a place that affected me more deeply. I have read a lot of books on it since. The on-site museum is killer as well.

At the Capitol building, it was very interesting to stand in the very spot that Lincoln stood, to look down & think that someone as important as Abe stood right where you are. There are actually a ton of places like that here in Springfield, Lincolns New Salem outside of town in Petersburg, Ill is a great place & still looks just like it did in the old days. They have festivals where actors dress up in period costume & give demonstrations on everything from how to make homemade butter to how to fish using old time technology. If you ever come to this area i recommend it. A very cool place for a romantic date.

So anyway, thats the best i've got, where have you been???

|Zach|
02-12-2007, 12:54 PM
Astrodome

Site of the last Chiefs playoff victory.

FAX
02-12-2007, 12:55 PM
I don't like historical sites, Mr. scott free. I prefer new ones. Less dust.

However, I think a lot of guys here have been to Mr. Redrum_69's Old Cooter Museum.

FAX

ndbbm
02-12-2007, 01:00 PM
I've been to a buttload of places. Noteably though, I live 30 minutes from Gettysburg, PA.

BigRedChief
02-12-2007, 01:00 PM
I've traveled the world. I've been to archeology digs at the Dead Sea, saw the pyramids, Rome, Athens, Stoneage, Jerusalem Old city(lived there for 3 months), Venice, Paris etc etc

The "coolest"? Jerusalem hands down. The most beautiful city in the world.

Rooster
02-12-2007, 01:00 PM
Astrodome

Site of the last Chiefs playoff victory.

OUCH!! :(

Lzen
02-12-2007, 01:02 PM
Mt. Rushmore was really cool when I took the family in the Summer of 2000.

recxjake
02-12-2007, 01:03 PM
I really liked goin to the Mayan ruins

Easy 6
02-12-2007, 01:03 PM
I've traveled the world. I've been to archeology digs at the Dead Sea, saw the pyramids, Rome, Athens, Stoneage, Jerusalem Old city(lived there for 3 months), Venice, Paris etc etc

The "coolest"? Jerusalem hands down. The most beautiful city in the world.

Your travels are well documented & i must say i'm quite jealous. I absolutely have to see Israel before i die.

patteeu
02-12-2007, 01:04 PM
Last summer, my family visited the Northfield bank that Jesse James and his gang tried to rob. The tour guide did a very nice job of describing the raid, the gunfight, the subsequent capture of the Younger brothers and the escape of the James brothers, and the subsequent history of each of the survivors. I criticized him for putting a Yankee spin on everything (instead of recognizing that James was a southern Robin Hood :p) and he offered to let me give the next tour, but I politely declined. We both laughed. It was a simple little museum, but it was interesting, particularly because we've taken our kids to see the James family home in Kearney, MO and the site of the first daylight bank robbery (which was performed by the James gang) in Liberty, MO. We also went to a cave in SE Missouri where the James gang holed up and escaped from a posse once too. We need to head up to St. Joe sometime and see what kind of James history they have up there.

Easy 6
02-12-2007, 01:05 PM
Everyone please feel free to be descriptive, what you thought about it, how it made you feel etc.

ck_IN
02-12-2007, 01:06 PM
You sir have opened a can since I'm a big history dork.

I've been to Liberty Plaza in Philly, which includes Freedom Hall and the Liberty Bell. I've hiked through some jungle to see Mayan ruins in Belize. I've seen the view from Lookout Mountain and paid my respects to the grave of Bill Cody. I've climbed Ayres Rock in Australia (it holds great significance to the Aborigines). I’ve walked the trail of the first convicts to settle Sydney and I’ve toured the USS Intrepid in NYC. I’ve seen the Anasazi cliff ruins in New Mexico and walked the streets of St. Augustine FL (founded in 1530 and the oldest permanent city in N. America).

If things ever settle down I’m going to check out Greece and Italy.

seclark
02-12-2007, 01:07 PM
i've got a cannonball i found in pilot knob, mo. in the early '70s. there was a fort and a civil war battle fought there. now it's a historic site.

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jynni
02-12-2007, 01:07 PM
I've been to a buttload of places. Noteably though, I live 30 minutes from Gettysburg, PA.
Gettysburg is probably the coolest place I have ever visited. We did the battlefield tour as part of my senior trip. Completely awe inspiring and humbling at the same time.

Easy 6
02-12-2007, 01:09 PM
Last summer, my family visited the Northfield bank that Jesse James and his gang tried to rob. The tour guide did a very nice job of describing the raid, the gunfight, and the subsequent capture of the Younger brothers. I criticized him for putting a Yankee spin on everything and he offered to let me give the next tour, but I politely declined. We both laughed. It was a simple little museum, but it was interesting, particularly because we've taken our kids to see the James family home in Kearney, MO and the site of the first daylight bank robbery (which was performed by the James gang) in Liberty, MO.

Thats cool, my old job used to take me to Hannibal, Mo once a week. In certain parts of town its like stepping back in time, if it werent for cars on the street you'd swear Injun Joe was right around the corner.

BigRedChief
02-12-2007, 01:12 PM
Your travels are well documented & i must say i'm quite jealous. I absolutely have to see Israel before i die.This one almost got me killed.
http://eteamz.active.com/lscardinals/images/jersusalem3.jpg

More of Jerusalem in the old City
http://eteamz.active.com/lscardinals/images/jersusalem2.jpg

http://eteamz.active.com/lscardinals/images/jersusalem4.jpg

http://eteamz.active.com/lscardinals/images/jersusalem1.jpg

Redrum_69
02-12-2007, 01:12 PM
Africa..

Costa Rica

Brazil

the amazon

Russia

Australia

Japan

greenland

Burchesgarten

austria


Holland


Spain


Italy

France

Canaduh

and about 13 hours north of Anchorage



I've been to all these places...in the videogames I played.

The most exotic place I visited would have to be Azeroth....

Nzoner
02-12-2007, 01:13 PM
Don't know how cool but here's a few

Jesse James home he was shot in and the home that the Pinkerton agents blew up(at least what was left of it)
Pony Express Stables
Plymouth Rock
Salem Massachusetts(toured a very cool village that was set-up as it was in the witch hunt days)
NFL Hall Of Fame(I would qualify this as historical and very very cool)

Nzoner
02-12-2007, 01:15 PM
We need to head up to St. Joe sometime and see what kind of James history they have up there.

Some very cool stuff here,give me a shout if you come.

ndbbm
02-12-2007, 01:17 PM
i've got a cannonball i found in pilot knob, mo. in the early '70s. there was a fort and a civil war battle fought there. now it's a historic site.

sec

Sec has old balls. Awesome find though!

siberian khatru
02-12-2007, 01:17 PM
I love CW battlefields, been to many.

I've been to Gettysburg twice, but not since they built the new visitor center. I'd like to see that.

Chickamauga around Chattanooga, TN, is a neat battlefield. Antietam was nice, too. And The Crater at Petersburg was cool.

I think Williamsburg is a neat place to visit. The Castillo de San Marcos, an oooooold Spanish fort in St. Augustine, FL, is interesting.

The church I got married in and used to attend in Savannah, GA, was the headquarters for Gen. Sherman during the Civil War.

Easy 6
02-12-2007, 01:18 PM
Some very cool stuff so far, thanks guys.

BRC, i really love that 1st pic, if you take out the guy in shorts & put a different shirt on the old man it could totally be a scene from ancient history.

wutamess
02-12-2007, 01:19 PM
Buffalo Bills grave: Colorado, Old West town & Eissenhower's museum Salina, KS.

Oddly enough I haven't bee to Truman's old house or the library for that matter.

siberian khatru
02-12-2007, 01:21 PM
Geo. Washington's home at Mount Vernon is also neat-o.

A couple of summers ago, I finally got to the National Archives to see the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. It was quite a moving experience to see those actual documents.

Redrum_69
02-12-2007, 01:24 PM
Anchorage...was a bad mistake and I wish I wouldnt have gone.

Plane problems, landed on a different fly-in lake that wasnt on the map...which was bad. Theres five of us. We ran out of matches on the 11th day. Bob slipped on the rocks and fell off a ravine, getting a concussion and breaking his leg. We had to carry him out by making a stretcher out of limbs and an old pile of lumber we came across. The four of us took turns dragging him. THree days after his fall, we awoke to the muffled sounds of chewing. Bob had made friends with a local bear. We ran down the hillslide and left Bob there, not sure what happened to him. Skip, Coulier, Lonemyer and myself must have walked over 40 miles, or at least it seemed that way. Minutes and seconds can turn into an eternity when lost in the wilderness. Nine months later we made it out of that God-forsaken place.

I then hit the reset button on my xbox and tore that Cabelas big game hunter to pieces...

BigRedChief
02-12-2007, 01:27 PM
Some very cool stuff so far, thanks guys.

BRC, i really love that 1st pic, if you take out the guy in shorts & put a different shirt on the old man it could totally be a scene from ancient history.
Yeah he's pointing a finger at me because I'm taking his picture and stealing his soul. After this pic was snapped he got really loud and a crowd gathered I thought ooohh chit but I gave him some money and he seemed happy and that made the crowd happy.

Bacon Cheeseburger
02-12-2007, 01:27 PM
If you want to go way back, we visited these cliff dwellings outside Colorado Springs a couple years ago.

http://hometown.aol.com/wahl1024/images/colcd1.jpg

Another interesting place was Deadwood, South Dakota. That's a good place to get a taste of the wild west. They'd have re-enactments of shoot-outs in the streets every evening (see attached photo), and we also saw a re-enactment of the trial of Jack McCall, the man who shot "Wild Bill" Hickock.

BigRedChief
02-12-2007, 01:29 PM
i've got a cannonball i found in pilot knob, mo. in the early '70s. there was a fort and a civil war battle fought there. now it's a historic site.

sec
I have lots of mosiac pieces that I found in my travels from different countries and spots.

ndbbm
02-12-2007, 01:31 PM
I've been encouraged to share more descriptively.

In Pennsylvania:

Gettysburg PA Battlefields
Fredricksburg VA Battlefields
Liberty Bell
Independence Hall
Valley Forge
Cornwall Iron Furnace
Fallingwater (by far the most awesome house ever)
John Harris Mansion
The Capitol Building (Harrisburg)
Johnstown Flood National Memorial
Milton S Hershey Mansion

Wow....this would take forever....Im going to hault here for now.

Easy 6
02-12-2007, 01:33 PM
If you want to go way back, we visited these cliff dwellings outside Colorado Springs a couple years ago.

http://hometown.aol.com/wahl1024/images/colcd1.jpg

Another interesting place was Deadwood, South Dakota. That's a good place to get a taste of the wild west. They'd have re-enactments of shoot-outs in the streets every evening (see attached photo), and we also saw a re-enactment of the trial of Jack McCall, the man who shot "Wild Bill" Hickock.

Very nice, pics are always welcome.

Redrum_69
02-12-2007, 01:34 PM
If you want to go way back, we visited these cliff dwellings outside Colorado Springs a couple years ago.

http://hometown.aol.com/wahl1024/images/colcd1.jpg

Another interesting place was Deadwood, South Dakota. That's a good place to get a taste of the wild west. They'd have re-enactments of shoot-outs in the streets every evening (see attached photo), and we also saw a re-enactment of the trial of Jack McCall, the man who shot "Wild Bill" Hickock.



I was there last June. South Dakota is full of great sites. The midnight star casino is badass in deadwood. Full of movie props from Kevin Costners movies. Thats the same casino that he owns.

GO visit the cemetary and see all the legendary figures of deadwood.

also, this badass museum..

http://adamsmuseumandhouse.org/answers/jackmccall.html


Along the interstate coming from the east, you'll pass alot of old towns worth stopping by. Also...lots of national parks to visit there as well.

THeres also the chance to visit with one of the horses that was in Dances with Wolves at one of the off road attractions.


By the way...if you are ever in the desert...and you stop by a gas station and some old timer says to take a shortcut through the desert...dont listen to him. I hear the desert is full of radioactive people that will attack you...

patteeu
02-12-2007, 01:36 PM
Africa..

Costa Rica

Brazil

the amazon

Russia

Australia

Japan

greenland

Burchesgarten

austria


Holland


Spain


Italy

France

Canaduh

and about 13 hours north of Anchorage



I've been to all these places...in the videogames I played.

The most exotic place I visited would have to be Azeroth....

Are you a big Carmen San Diego fan or something?

Redrum_69
02-12-2007, 01:40 PM
Are you a big Carmen San Diego fan or something?


Nah...its called Call of Duty 2, and 3

medal of Honor

Wolfenstein

and then some Cabelas hunting games and dangerous hunt games etc

Frazod
02-12-2007, 01:43 PM
Some of the highlights, that I can think of off the top of my head:

Various places in Rome (Colliseum, Forum, Vatican, etc.)
Boston
Lexington & Concord
New York (USS Intrepid, Battery Park, cemetary near Wall Street where Hamilton is buried)
Williamsburg
Washington, D.C.
Charleston/Fort Sumter
Deadwood/Devil's Tower/various places in the Black Hills
Yellowstone
Little Bighorn Battlefield
Jesse James House

I know I've been to more places than that, but I'm drawing a blank right now.

I deeply regret not seeing more historical sites in Europe during my Navy days, but back then I pretty much spent what little extra cash I had on beer. I should have visited far more places than I actually have. :banghead:

And I've planned trips to Gettysburg on three separate occasions, but something always screws them up at the last minute. I'm starting to think I'm not meant to go there.

OnTheWarpath58
02-12-2007, 01:46 PM
Compared to some of these, mine's kinda lame....unless you're like me and have studied the subject endlessly....

Dealey Plaza, Dallas Texas.

Site of the assassination of JFK.

The Texas Book Depository has been turned into a museum about November 22, 1963.

Easy 6
02-12-2007, 01:51 PM
Compared to some of these, mine's kinda lame....unless you're like me and have studied the subject endlessly....

Dealey Plaza, Dallas Texas.

Site of the assassination of JFK.

The Texas Book Depository has been turned into a museum about November 22, 1963.

I forgot to add this one, its a subject of intense interest for me too. I didnt exactly go there, but the train i took to LA did a very slow crossing on that overpass & i got a real good look at all of the points of interest. Possibly the ugliest incident in American history.

BigRedChief
02-12-2007, 01:52 PM
Compared to some of these, mine's kinda lame....unless you're like me and have studied the subject endlessly....

Dealey Plaza, Dallas Texas.

Site of the assassination of JFK.

The Texas Book Depository has been turned into a museum about November 22, 1963.
So was it one bullet that did all the damage? One shooter?

Stewie
02-12-2007, 01:54 PM
Fallingwater (by far the most awesome house ever)


Did they get the cantilevered part of the house fixed? I thought I read they were working on it.

The Rick
02-12-2007, 01:54 PM
I too liked the site of the JFK assassination. Very surreal when there's all of these people around, some talking about the conspiracy theories and pointing out various landmarks, etc. By far the creepiest thing though is the "X marks the spot" landmark on the street.

Also cool to visit was the site of the Oklahoma City bombing. Lots of interesting stuff there including a nearby building that was damaged (slightly) from the blast and not repaired.

Easy 6
02-12-2007, 01:55 PM
So was it one bullet that did all the damage? One shooter?

Impossible.

Bacon Cheeseburger
02-12-2007, 01:56 PM
I was there last June. South Dakota is full of great sites. The midnight star casino is badass in deadwood. Full of movie props from Kevin Costners movies. Thats the same casino that he owns.

GO visit the cemetary and see all the legendary figures of deadwood.

also, this badass museum..

http://adamsmuseumandhouse.org/answers/jackmccall.html


Along the interstate coming from the east, you'll pass alot of old towns worth stopping by. Also...lots of national parks to visit there as well.

THeres also the chance to visit with one of the horses that was in Dances with Wolves at one of the off road attractions.


By the way...if you are ever in the desert...and you stop by a gas station and some old timer says to take a shortcut through the desert...dont listen to him. I hear the desert is full of radioactive people that will attack you...
Yeah, there's almost too much to list for that area. The only bad thing about Deadwood is that it's so far from everything else up there. One other thing we saw that was cool up there was an bank in Deadwood (see photo) that my wife has a business connection with. It's fully restored to the old west era right down to the bars on the teller windows, and in the basement there were these blocked off entrances to a bunch of underground tunnels that apparently chinese slaves lived in back in the gold rush days. Strange.

This pic didn't scan very well but here it is anyway.

crazycoffey
02-12-2007, 02:00 PM
I've been to many sites with historical significance, but probably the most interesting to me, in lines with this thread topic; Sarajevo, and stood on the corner where Archduke Ferdinand was killed.

SBK
02-12-2007, 02:04 PM
For historical sites I'd have to say my trip to Israel would be the tops for me.

Jerusalem is really cool, walking through the old gates is a neat experience that you just can't get here in the US. The city has been overbuilt though, the crusades brought temples and cathedrals to every site of record.

My favorite parts of the trip were the collesium at Tiberias, where Paul pleaded for his life. Huge arena that overlooked the Mediaterrian.

I also liked the Sea of Galilee, took a boat ride across that. I'd have to tell you it's more of a lake though, not all that big. It's gorgeous out there though.

I also floated in the Dead Sea, which is fun but burns those "sensitive" areas of skin that you have.

When I was in Israel I also went to the Holocost museum there. I've never been so moved by a museum before. On the top floor there was a room with floor to ceiling books, with the names of those killed. I saw men weeping over those books, and thumbing through them pointing out family members to their children. The stories that are in there that have never been heard are amazing.

Let me add that I have never felt as safe walking around a city as I did in Jerusalem. Something about police everywhere with machine guns does that for you!

crazycoffey
02-12-2007, 02:08 PM
For historical sites I'd have to say my trip to Israel would be the tops for me.



The church my wife and I attended in Dallas was planning a trip there just as we started to prepare for our move to MO. I was bummed, it is a trip I would like to make someday.

BigRedChief
02-12-2007, 02:10 PM
My comments in bold.
I also liked the Sea of Galilee, took a boat ride across that. I'd have to tell you it's more of a lake though, not all that big. It's gorgeous out there though.
I parasailed on that lake. You can see Jordan, Israel, Lebanon and Syria at the same time while you parasail.

I also floated in the Dead Sea, which is fun but burns those "sensitive" areas of skin that you have.
n00b.

Let me add that I have never felt as safe walking around a city as I did in Jerusalem. Something about police everywhere with machine guns does that for you!
Thats what I told people when I was living in Jerusalem. I felt really safe....well until a suicide bomber blew up a bus I was going to get on but me andmy buddy were running late.

pikesome
02-12-2007, 02:10 PM
I've been to the sites in DC (White House, Congress, Smithsonian), the battlefield at Vicksburg, the Dalton hideout (used to live in Meade KS) and Bent's Old Fort in Co. I've stood on the deck of the Might Mo', looked down from an aircraft carrier deck into the Arizona. And while its not historical, exactly, I've been part of the way up Mt Fuji.

OnTheWarpath58
02-12-2007, 02:13 PM
So was it one bullet that did all the damage? One shooter?

I'm no conspiracy theorist, but there is no way that Oswald was able to:

Fire a bolt-action rifle as many times as the Warren Commision says he did in a short amount of time with ANY accuracy. Snipers at Quantico couldn't duplicate this, and Oswald was never "qualified" during his time in the military.

Race down 6 flights of stairs to the cafeteria in the amount of time the Warren Commisson says he did folowing the shooting and NOT be winded. Dude was cool as a cucumber.



Anyway, I could go on forever, but there's no sense in it. People will believe what they want to believe, educated or not. It is an interesting place to visit, that's for sure....

Easy 6
02-12-2007, 02:19 PM
I'm no conspiracy theorist, but there is no way that Oswald was able to:

Fire a bolt-action rifle as many times as the Warren Commision says he did in a short amount of time with ANY accuracy. Snipers at Quantico couldn't duplicate this, and Oswald was never "qualified" during his time in the military.

Race down 6 flights of stairs to the cafeteria in the amount of time the Warren Commisson says he did folowing the shooting and NOT be winded. Dude was cool as a cucumber.



Anyway, I could go on forever, but there's no sense in it. People will believe what they want to believe, educated or not. It is an interesting place to visit, that's for sure....

Your right on track, i did a college paper on it (got a perfect 100%) & the amount of things that dont add up is LAUGHABLE.

As you say, it could go on & on & on.

booyaf2
02-12-2007, 02:24 PM
I visited the Worlds Largest Ball of Twine in Cawker City Kansas. Isn't soon to be forgotten.

Easy 6
02-12-2007, 02:26 PM
I visited the Worlds Largest Ball of Twine in Cawker City Kansas. Isn't soon to be forgotten.

:LOL: , right outta the Griswold family playbook.

chagrin
02-12-2007, 02:26 PM
All sorts of Plantations and Civil War Forts and sites, all the monuments in DC, Smithsonian, of course I just returned from Moscow where I was in the Kremlin, St. Basil's and all that. I have seen a bunch of sites here in America, mostly Civil War stuff.

chagrin
02-12-2007, 02:27 PM
I visited the Worlds Largest Ball of Twine in Cawker City Kansas. Isn't soon to be forgotten.


Was that right after you turned left at the sign that said "rib tips"??

Easy 6
02-12-2007, 02:29 PM
All sorts of Plantations and Civil War Forts and sites, all the monuments in DC, Smithsonian, of course I just returned from Moscow where I was in the Kremlin, St. Basil's and all that. I have seen a bunch of sites here in America, mostly Civil War stuff.

Yeah, i forgot about that Boris!!! If you have some pics to show from Russia that would be killer.

Welcome Back!!!

Easy 6
02-12-2007, 02:33 PM
I'm no conspiracy theorist, but there is no way that Oswald was able to:

Fire a bolt-action rifle as many times as the Warren Commision says he did in a short amount of time with ANY accuracy. Snipers at Quantico couldn't duplicate this, and Oswald was never "qualified" during his time in the military.



Not to mention that the Manlicher-Carcano was a completely inaccurate piece of garbage.

KC Kings
02-12-2007, 02:33 PM
I have been to a lot of places, but I think the Vatican was probably my favorite. I don't know if that counts as being historical since it is present day as well.


The most disapointing historical site was in the same city, the Colleseum. It was very small, and not in very good shape. The main floor was about the size of a basketball court. It was a lot cooler in my imagination that it was in real life.

chagrin
02-12-2007, 02:35 PM
Yeah, i forgot about that Boris!!! If you have some pics to show from Russia that would be killer.

Welcome Back!!!

Thank you comrade, heh

Yeah I have pictures but I will warn you in advance, they aren't very exciting (I wasn't allowed to take much more than regular street shots and the ouside of buildings). It was another world for sure, I would be glad to post a trip report here in a few days though; I think you may like it.

MOhillbilly
02-12-2007, 02:37 PM
lots of the old school stuff in the UK. the science place in chicago. the national mall. the space place in south tejas.yellowstone. wilsons creek. hannibal mo. the train museum in st loser. lots of stuff in KC and the surrounding area.

i could be the most well traveled hillbilly ever.

trndobrd
02-12-2007, 02:38 PM
Battle Fields:

-Normandy (Utah & Omaha Beach, Pegasus Bridge, Point du Hoc, and the D-Day Museum in Caen)
-Gettysburg PA
-Pearl Harbor (including tours of the AZ Memorial, USS Missouri, and Spearfish)
-Ypres, Belgium
-Korean DMZ and Freedom Village
-Antietam MD
-Fredricksburg VA
-Harpers Ferry WV
-Yorktown VA
-Fort McHenry, MD (birthplace of the National Anthem)
-Little Bighorn (just driving through and thought I would stop, just happened to be the 125th anniversay with renactments, etc.


Other interesting Places:

-Notre Dame and other stuff in Paris
-Boat tour of Amsterdam and the Rijksmuseum (featuring "the Night Watch" )
-Kuwait City
-Antwerp
-The Korean living history museum
-Baghdad, Iraq
-Devil's Tower
-Kansas Cosmosphere in Hutchinson (grew up 3 blocks away)
-Deadwood SD
-Mesa Verde, CO
-Tombstone, AZ
-Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
-Wall Drug

Easy 6
02-12-2007, 02:40 PM
Thank you comrade, heh

(I wasn't allowed to take much more than regular street shots and the ouside of buildings).

Thats not surprising, had you not obeyed they would have sat you in a dimly lit room with Ivan Jirkov.

Looking forward to the report.

Easy 6
02-12-2007, 02:44 PM
-Little Bighorn (just driving through and thought I would stop, just happened to be the 125th anniversay with renactments, etc

That would be fantastic, part of my stay did have a tour with a Sioux woman in period dress explaining various things, but the re-enactment must have been extra cool.

Monty
02-12-2007, 02:49 PM
I went to Carhenge in western Nebraska once. If that doesn't excite you, I've seen the world's largest ball of twine in Cawker City, Kansas. :thumb:

splatbass
02-12-2007, 02:49 PM
Pearl Harbor (I work on base a stones throw from the memorial)
Gettysburg
Valley Forge
Manassas (I used to walk there a lot when I lived in Northern Virginia)
Jamestown
Independence Hall (and the Liberty Bell)
Lincoln Memorial
Washington Memorial
White House
All the Smithsonian Museums

I'm sure there are more, but that is all I can think of off the top of my head.

BucEyedPea
02-12-2007, 02:52 PM
As a former Civil War buff:

Gettysburg National Military Park
Manassas National Battlefield Park including live re-nactment by living history groups
Wilson's Creek National Battlefield Park
Chickamauga and Chattanooga National Military Park
Grants Home

***

Badlands National Park
Mount Rushmore National Park & Memorial
Redwood National Forest
Golden Gate Bridge Park
Presido of San Franciso

****

Minuteman National Historic Park- live re-nactment
Boston National Historical Parks: Freedom Trail... Paul Revere House, Bunker Hill,(live reanactments) USS Constitution, Faneuil Hall
Plymouth Plantation and Mayflower
Saratoga National Historic Park

***

Mt. Vernon
Parts of Underground RR
Savannah Historic District
Southern Plantations and Homes in the South: LA, GA, SC, VA
Historic Charleston
Harpers Ferry
John Brown Memorial Park
Historic Jamestowne-National Park Service
Colonial Williamsburg

***

New Orleans Jazz Historical Park- parts of; Vieux Carre, Canal Street, Lafayette Square
Jean Lafitte Historical Park- parts of
Preservation Hall

****

Lincoln Memorial
Jefferson Memorial
Capital - Congress and Senate Buildings
White House
Washington Monument

***

Brooklyn Bridge
Empire State Building
Statue of Liberty
WTC
United Nations

***

Castillo de San Marcos in St Augustine, and historic St. Augustine
Fort DeSoto National Memorial and Park- Florida
Everglades National Park
Acadia National Park Maine
Cumberland Island National Seashore
Great Smoky Mountains National Park

***

Parthenon - Athens Greece
Rhodes, Greece- where Colossus of Rhodes existed one of the Seven Wonders of the World. The medieval city is a World Heritage Site
Great Pyramids of Giza-Egypt
The Great Sphinx of Giza

***

Cathedral of Notre Dame- Paris
Arch de Triomphe- Paris
Louvre Museum
Les Jardins des Tuileries- Paris
Eiffel Tower- Paris
Place Pigalle- Paris
Montemartre- Paris
Palace of Versaille- Versaille France

***

Grimaldi Castle Monte Carlo
Anne Frank House- Amsterdam

***

Big Ben- London
Westministers Abbey
British Parliament
St. Paul's Cathedral
Coventry Cathedral- bombed out ruins by German Luftwaffe WWII
Canterbury Cathedral-Thomas à Becket
Warwick Castle and another castle in England but don't remember names
Buckingham Palace, Kensington Palace
Tower of London
Stonehenge
Sherwood Forest
Battle of Hastings
Karl Marx grave...so I could spit on it
Bronte sisters home
Yorkshire Moors
Old city York - Medieval walled city
Dicken's home
Anne Hathaway House
Stratford-on-Avon
Globe Theatre


About a third as a child, pre-teen, young teen and don't remember them all.
Most of Europe did in college.
Some done while on business trips or passing through
Some were vacations, weekend trips as an adult,or visiting friends, family
Greece/Egypt was a honeymoon
New England-because I lived there

Monty
02-12-2007, 02:55 PM
I forgot to add this one, its a subject of intense interest for me too. I didnt exactly go there, but the train i took to LA did a very slow crossing on that overpass & i got a real good look at all of the points of interest. Possibly the ugliest incident in American history.

This site is of major interest to me as well. If you ever have the time, it's well worth it to see Dealey Plaza and the 6th Floor Museum. There's an Assassination Center in the area too that's pretty good. I was always one of those whose just took it for granted that LHO did it. That is, until I went there....it changed almost everything I had previously understood about the assassination and I spent quite a bit of time researching the event and what led up to it, the aftermath, etc. etc. If you want a tour, just let me know. :)

"Bob" Dobbs
02-12-2007, 02:56 PM
When in the Army, I was lucky enough to be stationed at West Point for 3 years. It rocked!

Jenson71
02-12-2007, 03:01 PM
Gettysburg, Deadwood, Mt. Rushmore, Grant's home in Galena I went up to this summer.

Washington D.C....Mall, church where George Washington and Robert E. Lee attended, Mt. Vernon

Paris...Notre Dame, Eiffel Tower, Arc de Triomph, Palace of Versailles

Verdun...World War I battlefield/town. Verdun has a beautiful church in it. Can rival the beauty of Notre Dame. Includes a shrine to Joan of Arc.

(various other battlefields and cemeteries throughout North and Northwestern France. One of significance was the battlefield Hitler's comrades were killed in. After Germany took over France, Hitler made a stop there to pay tribute to his fellow soldiers. Albert is a great little town with much historical depth. See: "The Leaning Virgin". Many chatteaus I stayed at in the French country played an important part in World War I as hospitals or military headquarters.)

Ipers, Belgium...this was cool. For one, Belgium is a great little country with nice people. Two was the personal bike ride tour throughout the Belgium countryside we were able to experience. Saw more battlefields of World War I.

Omaha Beach and Point du Hoc, various towns of Normandy. One of the most peaceful places I've ever been to.

That's what I can remember. At 19 years old, I can say I've been privileged to see so much at a young age. This spring break, my family is going to San Antonio, and we will be seeing the Alamo and the four mission churches built there in the early 1700s, among other things. This will be an excellent trip. And the week after that, I am getting a trip to West Branch, Iowa together for the History Club and we'll explore Herbert Hoover's life and presidency.

I will be attending the University of Connecticut in a year and a half, so there I can take some trips to some old east coast/New England sites. After that I will study some time overseas, probably in Italy.

Top places of interest I want to see before I'm 30 years old:
- Vatican City
- Rome
- Sicily
- Venice
- Naples
- Milan
- Istanbul, various other places in Turkey
- Jersulem
- Germany, especially Munich, Nurembourg
- Vienna
- Spain

BigRedChief
02-12-2007, 03:03 PM
As a former Civil War buff:

Gettysburg National Military Park
Manassas National Battlefield Park including live re-nactment by living history groups
Wilson's Creek National Battlefield Park
Chickamauga and Chattanooga National Military Park
Grants Home

***

Badlands National Park
Mount Rushmore National Park & Memorial
Redwood National Forest
Golden Gate Bridge Park
Presido of San Franciso

****

Minuteman National Historic Park- live re-nactment
Boston National Historical Parks: Freedom Trail... Paul Revere House, Bunker Hill,(live reanactments) USS Constitution, Faneuil Hall
Plymouth Plantation and Mayflower
Saratoga National Historic Park

***

Mt. Vernon
Parts of Underground RR
Savannah Historic District
Southern Plantations and Homes in the South: LA, GA, SC, VA
Historic Charleston
Harpers Ferry
John Brown Memorial Park
Historic Jamestowne-National Park Service
Colonial Williamsburg

***

New Orleans Jazz Historical Park- parts of; Vieux Carre, Canal Street, Lafayette Square
Jean Lafitte Historical Park- parts of
Preservation Hall

****

Lincoln Memorial
Jefferson Memorial
Capital - Congress and Senate Buildings
White House
Washington Monument

***

Brooklyn Bridge
Empire State Building
Statue of Liberty
WTC
United Nations

***

Castillo de San Marcos in St Augustine, and historic St. Augustine
Fort DeSoto National Memorial and Park- Florida
Everglades National Park
Acadia National Park Maine
Cumberland Island National Seashore
Great Smoky Mountains National Park

***

Parthenon - Athens Greece
Rhodes, Greece- where Colossus of Rhodes existed one of the Seven Wonders of the World. The medieval city is a World Heritage Site
Great Pyramids of Giza-Egypt
The Great Sphinx of Giza

***

Cathedral of Notre Dame- Paris
Arch de Triomphe- Paris
Louvre Museum
Les Jardins des Tuileries- Paris
Eiffel Tower- Paris
Place Pigalle- Paris
Montemartre- Paris
Palace of Versaille- Versaille France

***

Grimaldi Castle Monte Carlo
Anne Frank House- Amsterdam

***

Big Ben- London
Westministers Abbey
British Parliament
St. Paul's Cathedral
Coventry Cathedral- bombed out ruins by German Luftwaffe WWII
Canterbury Cathedral-Thomas à Becket
Warwick Castle and another castle in England but don't remember names
Buckingham Palace, Kensington Palace
Tower of London
Stonehenge
Sherwood Forest
Battle of Hastings
Karl Marx grave...so I could spit on it
Bronte sisters home
Yorkshire Moors
Old city York - Medieval walled city
Dicken's home
Anne Hathaway House
Stratford-on-Avon
Globe Theatre


About a third as a child, pre-teen, young teen and don't remember them all.
Most of Europe did in college.
Some done while on business trips or passing through
Some were vacations, weekend trips as an adult,or visiting friends, family
Greece/Egypt was a honeymoon
New England-because I lived there
Cool another "seasoned" traveler

Easy 6
02-12-2007, 03:03 PM
As a former Civil War buff:

Gettysburg National Military Park
Manassas National Battlefield Park including live re-nactment by living history groups
Wilson's Creek National Battlefield Park
Chickamauga and Chattanooga National Military Park
Grants Home

***

Badlands National Park
Mount Rushmore National Park & Memorial
Redwood National Forest
Golden Gate Bridge Park
Presido of San Franciso

****

Minuteman National Historic Park- live re-nactment
Boston National Historical Parks: Freedom Trail... Paul Revere House, Bunker Hill,(live reanactments) USS Constitution, Faneuil Hall
Plymouth Plantation and Mayflower
Saratoga National Historic Park

***

Mt. Vernon
Parts of Underground RR
Savannah Historic District
Southern Plantations and Homes in the South: LA, GA, SC, VA
Historic Charleston
Harpers Ferry
John Brown Memorial Park
Historic Jamestowne-National Park Service
Colonial Williamsburg

***

New Orleans Jazz Historical Park- parts of; Vieux Carre, Canal Street, Lafayette Square
Jean Lafitte Historical Park- parts of
Preservation Hall

****

Lincoln Memorial
Jefferson Memorial
Capital - Congress and Senate Buildings
White House
Washington Monument

***

Brooklyn Bridge
Empire State Building
Statue of Liberty
WTC
United Nations

***

Castillo de San Marcos in St Augustine, and historic St. Augustine
Fort DeSoto National Memorial and Park- Florida
Everglades National Park
Acadia National Park Maine
Cumberland Island National Seashore
Great Smoky Mountains National Park

***

Parthenon - Athens Greece
Rhodes, Greece- where Colossus of Rhodes existed one of the Seven Wonders of the World. The medieval city is a World Heritage Site
Great Pyramids of Giza-Egypt
The Great Sphinx of Giza

***

Cathedral of Notre Dame- Paris
Arch de Triomphe- Paris
Louvre Museum
Les Jardins des Tuileries- Paris
Eiffel Tower- Paris
Place Pigalle- Paris
Montemartre- Paris
Palace of Versaille- Versaille France

***

Grimaldi Castle Monte Carlo
Anne Frank House- Amsterdam

***

Big Ben- London
Westministers Abbey
British Parliament
St. Paul's Cathedral
Coventry Cathedral- bombed out ruins by German Luftwaffe WWII
Canterbury Cathedral-Thomas à Becket
Warwick Castle and another castle in England but don't remember names
Buckingham Palace, Kensington Palace
Tower of London
Stonehenge
Sherwood Forest
Battle of Hastings
Karl Marx grave...so I could spit on it
Bronte sisters home
Yorkshire Moors
Old city York - Medieval walled city
Dicken's home
Anne Hathaway House
Stratford-on-Avon
Globe Theatre


About a third as a child, pre-teen, young teen and don't remember them all.
Most of Europe did in college.
Some done while on business trips or passing through
Some were vacations, weekend trips as an adult,or visiting friends, family
Greece/Egypt was a honeymoon
New England-because I lived there

Sheesh, get around much??? Thats a helluva world traveler list.

I guess its not really historical, but it was cool to go to the Griffith Observatory in LA where James Dean had his scene with Dennis Hoppers "gang" & stand in the footsteps of a legend.

Tons of state parks all over America too, from the south across the west. I cant claim to be a world traveler though.

Frazod
02-12-2007, 03:08 PM
I visited the Worlds Largest Ball of Twine in Cawker City Kansas. Isn't soon to be forgotten.

I had a crazy friend who would plans trips around seeing stupid shit like this. For real. She actually drove from Chicago to LaCrosse, Wisconsin to take a picture of six fuel storage tanks that are painted to resemble beer cans. That was the object of her trip - she took the pictures and immediately returned to Chicago. Made lots of similar trips to similar destinations, and kept a photo album of pictures of these stupid things.

Anyway, she was supposed to go to Galena (little tourist town in western Illinois near a casino) with the wife and I one weekend. We were only going to stay one night, so timing was tight. At the last minute, she decreed that she couldn't go unless we went to Riverside, Iowa as well. Why? Because Riverside is the future birthplace of Captain Kirk, and she had to buy a vial of dirt.

I swear to God I'm not making this up.

I had basically invited her to go along with us to be nice (I felt sorry for her, since she didn't have many friends, because she was a crazy pain in the ass) and then she insists on taking a detour to a place 2 hours from Galena on a weekend trip to buy a vial of f#cking dirt to commemorate the the future birth of a FICTIONAL CHARACTER. :spock: We haven't spoke since I told her to she out of her f#cking mind and to go get her damned dirt on her own time.

Friggin nut. :shake:

Easy 6
02-12-2007, 03:08 PM
This site is of major interest to me as well. If you ever have the time, it's well worth it to see Dealey Plaza and the 6th Floor Museum. There's an Assassination Center in the area too that's pretty good. I was always one of those whose just took it for granted that LHO did it. That is, until I went there....it changed almost everything I had previously understood about the assassination and I spent quite a bit of time researching the event and what led up to it, the aftermath, etc. etc. If you want a tour, just let me know. :)

I'll take you up on it if i can one of these days.

Its amazing what you can find out once you start looking at things for yourself instead of accepting the company line.

Easy 6
02-12-2007, 03:10 PM
I had a crazy friend who would plans trips around seeing stupid shit like this. For real. She actually drove from Chicago to LaCrosse, Wisconsin to take a picture of six fuel storage tanks that are painted to resemble beer cans. That was the object of her trip - she took the pictures and immediately returned to Chicago. Made lots of similar trips to similar destinations, and kept a photo album of pictures of these stupid things.

Anyway, she was supposed to go to Galena (little tourist town in western Illinois near a casino) with the wife and I one weekend. We were only going to stay one night, so timing was tight. At the last minute, she decreed that she couldn't go unless we went to Riverside, Iowa as well. Why? Because Riverside is the future birthplace of Captain Kirk, and she had to buy a vial of dirt.

I swear to God I'm not making this up.

I had basically invited her to go along with us to be nice (I felt sorry for her, since she didn't have many friends, because she was a crazy pain in the ass) and then she insists on taking a detour to a place 2 hours from Galena on a weekend trip to buy a vial of f#cking dirt to commemorate the the future birth of a FICTIONAL CHARACTER. :spock: We haven't spoke since I told her to she out of her f#cking mind and to go get her damned dirt on her own time.

Friggin nut. :shake:

LMAO ... :LOL: ...... ROFL

gblowfish
02-12-2007, 03:11 PM
I've only been to USA and Canada, but have seen mucho cool stuff:

Civil War:
KC Area:
Wornall House
Battle of Independence, MO
Battle of Little Blue River
Battle of Westport
Battle at Byram's Ford
Other Civil War:
Wilson's Creek - Springfield, MO
Battle of Lexington, MO
Battle of Pea Ridge, Ark
Jefferson Barracks, St. Louis

Battle of Bull Run, Manassas, VA
Antietam, MD
Lookout Mountain, Tennessee
Stone Mountain, GA
Fredricksburg, VA
Wilderness, VA

Other Cool Stuff:
Washington DC, saw everything, I was there for a month as a tourist.
Major Cities, seen just about everything cool:
Chicago, St. Louis, Minneapolis, Dallas, Denver, LA, San Fran, Indy, Cleveland, Buffalo, Detroit, Philly, Atlanta, Memphis, Nashville, Milwaukee, Baltimore, Santa Fe, Las Vegas

Other Cool Historical Stuff Off Beaten Path:
Virginia:
Monticello
Washington & Lee Univ (Robt E Lee burial place)
Hoover Dam
Fort Tyconderoga
Ft. McHenry
Ft. Smith
Ft. Osage
Ft. Washington
Ft. Knox, KY
Lincoln's Burial Site Springfield, IL
SAC command Bellvue, NEB

Nature Stuff:
Royal Gorge, CO
Niagra Falls, NY
LaBrea Tarpits, LA
Mammoth Cave, KY
White Sands, NM
Start of Mississippi River, Minnesota

Military Academies:
West Point, NY
Naval Academy, Annapolis, MD
Air Force Academy, Colo Springs, CO

Presidential Libraries:
FDR, Hyde Park, NY
Truman, Indep. MO
Ike, Abeline, KS
Bubba, Little Rock, AR

Saw the Canadian capital in Ottawa, it was a beautiful place. Went from Windsor, Ont all the way to Quebec City on the Trans-Canada. Go sometime if you have a chance.

BucEyedPea
02-12-2007, 03:11 PM
Sheesh, get around much??? Thats a helluva world traveler list.

I guess its not really historical, but it was cool to go to the Griffith Observatory in LA where James Dean had his scene with Dennis Hoppers "gang" & stand in the footsteps of a legend.

Tons of state parks all over America too, from the south across the west. I cant claim to be a world traveler though.
Those are just the historical ones. I try to be efficient. It looks like more trips than average but when combined with other things really is not. My exhad tons of frequent flyers due to working around the country...so it was cheap. Some were on the move down to Florida or on the way to the MidWest from Boston to meet his family. Some were while on business.

I forgot one: Deadwood, South Dakota ( when I went to Mt. Rushmore)
and Salem Mass...of course it was near where I lived.

I also forgot the start of the Miss River at Lake Itasca...but I didn't consider it historical.

BucEyedPea
02-12-2007, 03:16 PM
Also,I briefly lived behind the Harriet Tubman House in Cambridge.
I lived on Bunker Hill Street in Boston once too. Had a Battle of Bunker Hill Day party once too. It's a holiday for that part of Boston only with a parade.

38yrsfan
02-12-2007, 04:10 PM
I Lived in England for three years; Stonehenge (before they roped it off and you could actually walk between the stones), Buckingham Palace, Windsor Castle, Tower of London, the British Museum and many more, Warwick castle, etc. etc. I was in the scouts as a kid over there and we hiked along Hadrians wall, Grim's ditch, slept in the grounds of Berkhamstead castle, Roman ruins everywhere; Bath in particular.

In the US, civil war battlefields from Gettysburg to Vicksburg (not alphabetically though) :), small frontier battlefields throughout the West (I can't pass by a historic site sign without stopping - most of my vacation drives are spontaneous adventures with hours of slack time for the unexpected - lots of interesting things to see in the good 'ol USA).

I'm trying to swing a weeks vacation at the Smithsonian soon, last time there only had a day to spend so I picked the Air and Space museum.

Would a visit to the Mustang Ranch in Vegas be considered a historical visit? :)

Donger
02-12-2007, 04:19 PM
None.

History sucks.

Easy 6
02-12-2007, 04:26 PM
None.

History sucks.

Thanks for droppin' by...

Donger
02-12-2007, 04:33 PM
Thanks for droppin' by...

I was kidding, of course. I have a love/hate relationship with history.

Growing up in Europe, it was kind of hard to avoid historical places.

Easy 6
02-12-2007, 04:39 PM
I was kidding, of course. I have a love/hate relationship with history.

Growing up in Europe, it was kind of hard to avoid historical places.

Thats cool, i would imagine growing up around so much rich history could render it hum-drum after awhile, but theres always the history of other places to the east & here in the western hemisphere.

bushmaster
02-12-2007, 04:46 PM
vatican city. bastogne. buckingham palace. alamo. dc. coliseum. athens. gettysburg. madrid. dodge city. lots of others.

38yrsfan
02-12-2007, 04:48 PM
None.

History sucks.

"HISTORY, n. An account mostly false, of events mostly unimportant, which are brought about by rulers mostly knaves, and soldiers mostly fools." - Ambrose Bierce

"We learn from history that we learn nothing from history" - George Bernard Shaw

"Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it." - George Santayana

"History is more or less bunk" - Henry Ford

"People always seemed to know half of history, and to get it confused with the other half." - Jane Haddam

"History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce" - Karl Marx

"History, a distillation of rumour." - Thomas Carlyle

"One of the lessons of history is that nothing is often a good thing to do and always a clever thing to say" - Will Durant

"History will be kind to me for I intend to write it." - Winston Churchill

Easy 6
02-12-2007, 04:59 PM
Nice quotes 38yrsfan & its usually true that history is written by only one of the sides that lived it.

But that doesnt diminish my thrill with standing on the same ground where great/interesting men & important events came together.

boogblaster
02-12-2007, 05:03 PM
Few local sites Ft Row about 10 miles from home,old stage&army stop..Big Brutus the big earth-mover in seKansas,biggest at its time,ran off electricy..DodgeCity,Yellowstone,lots of old indian sites arrowhead hunting,woulkd like to see the Crazyhorse Carving went its done,plus Pearl Harbor...

SCTrojan
02-12-2007, 05:18 PM
Been to many of the Civil War battlefields that others have mentioned.

Been throughout Europe - my favorites were Normandy Beach and some other battlefields like Belleau Wood and Ardennes.

Most recently, I saw the Ziggaraut of Ur, which, legend has it, is the site where Abraham made his covenant with God. It's hard to describe what that was like to stand in a place that has such religious implications.

Easy 6
02-12-2007, 05:24 PM
Most recently, I saw the Ziggaraut of Ur, which, legend has it, is the site where Abraham made his covenant with God. It's hard to describe what that was like to stand in a place that has such religious implications.

In a word...AWESOME, that looks fantastic even in a small picture. Its pulling me in. Isnt Ur in whats now Iraq???

SCTrojan
02-12-2007, 05:27 PM
In a word...AWESOME, that looks fantastic even in a small picture. Isnt Ur in whats now Iraq???

Yep. It's just outside Talil Air Base.

BTW - downloaded that particular pic from the internet. I have some others that are in my work computer.

38yrsfan
02-12-2007, 05:28 PM
Nice quotes 38yrsfan & its usually true that history is written by only one of the sides that lived it.

But that doesnt diminish my thrill with standing on the same ground where great/interesting men & important events came together.

I'm a big "fan" of history; my library has grown so large my father-in-law has repeatedly expressed concern that the floor (2nd story room) is in danger from the weight of all of the bookcases/books. 35+ years of buying and collecting books, 90% historical works and references.

One of my favorite quotes but couldn't locate the original source is so very true;

"The victors write the history books"

An interesting read that illustrates this is The Russian Version of the Seconfd World War edited by Graham Lyons

Darkwolfe
02-12-2007, 05:31 PM
Let's see...

Being from Texas, a lot of sites there... Bummed a few links from about.com for anyone interested.

Alamo- San Antonio, Tx

San Jacinto Monument- Houston, Tx
http://gotexas.about.com/od/landmarksandhistoricsite/a/SanJac.htm

Texas State Railroad- Palestine, Tx

Washington on the Brazos
http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/spdest/findadest/parks/washington_on_the_brazos/

Battleship Texas (very cool)
http://gotexas.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=gotexas&zu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usstexasbb35.com%2F

Chicago Museum of Science and Industry (Frazod took us there when Jazzlovr and I were on our honeymoon in January. I mention it because the U-505 German Sub is there. My grandfather was in the Merchant Marine during WWII and would have been under 505's guns had it not been captured just before intercepting his convoy. Go see it, extremely cool.)

Old San Juan, Puerto Rico- Old battlements and the ruins of the original fort. Go, enjoy, buy t-shirts and cheap rum. :)

There's more but I'm derned if I can remember them all.

BucEyedPea
02-12-2007, 06:14 PM
This too: Lost island of Atlantis?

http://www.culture.gr/2/21/211/21121a/00/mk21a08g.jpg
Archaelogical excavation at Akrotiri on the Greek island of Santorini ( http://www.culture.gr/2/21/211/21121a/e211ua08.html)

This is an old volcanic crator island with black sand beaches. I forgot about the historical part which was at the end of the island that I visited. It was claimed to be the lost island of Atlantis. I never took it seriously at the time. This was in the early 90's. Then this year, I saw an amazing History Channel special on I believe it's correct, as it was Minoan civilization that was very advanced at the time. The volcano erupted and created a tsunami that wiped out Crete—also Minoan at the time. It's even claimed, iirc, that this wave is what drowned the Egyptians as they chased the Jews when they escaped through a shallow and marshy area of the Red Sea. Supposed to be at that same time.

This is some of what I saw...it was cool to walk through if you like that kinda thing, which I do. I entertained being an archaelogist at one time growing up.

Here's a link to more. (http://www.culture.gr/2/21/211/21121a/e211ua08.html) Hotels and quaint B&B's line up on the terraced cliffs.

I also have these two exact shots, although this is not mine. I just found it on the web. I have a montage of these photos in different sizes on my wall.

http://www.decadevolcano.net/photos/santorini_1101/santorini_17232.jpg

I also have shots of this church from several angles. I would climb walls and even rooftops to get good shots and use different filters or go back when the light was right.
http://www.decadevolcano.net/photos/santorini/pictures_84/santorini_8481.jpg

Easy 6
02-12-2007, 06:21 PM
This too: Lost island of Atlantis?

http://www.culture.gr/2/21/211/21121a/00/mk21a08g.jpg
http://www.culture.gr/2/21/211/21121a/e211ua08.html]Archaelogical (

This is an old volcanic crator island with black sand beaches. I forgot about the historical part which was at the end of the island that I visited. It was claimed to be the lost island of Atlantis. I never took it seriously at the time. This was in the early 90's. Then this year, I saw an amazing History Channel special on I believe it's correct, as it was Minoan civilization that was very advanced at the time. The volcano erupted and created a tsunami that wiped out Crete—also Minoan at the time. It's even claimed, iirc, that this wave is what drowned the Egyptians as they chased the Jews when they escaped through a shallow and marshy area of the Red Sea. Supposed to be at that same time.

This is some of what I saw...it was cool to walk through if you like that kinda thing, which I do. I entertained being an archaelogist at one time growing up.

Here's a link to more. (http://www.culture.gr/2/21/211/21121a/e211ua08.html) Hotels and quaint B&B's line up on the terraced cliffs.

I also have these two exact shots, although this is not mine. I just found it on the web. I have a montage of these photos in different sizes on my wall.

[url]http://www.decadevolcano.net/photos/santorini_1101/santorini_17232.jpg

I also have shots of this church from several angles. I would climb walls and even rooftops to get good shots and use different filters or go back when the light was right.
http://www.decadevolcano.net/photos/santorini/pictures_84/santorini_8481.jpg

Those are some great pics, those Mediterranian seaside villages are simply beautiful. I could TOTALLY see myself on one of the verandas, drink in hand, squinting thoughtfully into the sun as i pondered my next move in apprehending Le Chiffre.

Bowser
02-12-2007, 06:24 PM
I drove past the cul-de-sac where I received my first bj the other day.

Hey, it's historical to me!

Jenson71
02-12-2007, 06:26 PM
Thats cool, i would imagine growing up around so much rich history could render it hum-drum after awhile, but theres always the history of other places to the east & here in the western hemisphere.

Donger was a history major. I don't think he does anything related to history now though. I could be wrong, but that's what the impression has seemed to be.

Easy 6
02-12-2007, 06:31 PM
Donger was a history major. I don't think he does anything related to history now though. I could be wrong, but that's what the impression has seemed to be.

The picture is becoming clearer, i majored in history for a short time but found an awful lot of it boring...or more to the point, presented in a very boring way.

Donger
02-12-2007, 06:32 PM
Donger was a history major. I don't think he does anything related to history now though. I could be wrong, but that's what the impression has seemed to be.

Yes, I was. And no, what I do now has very little do with my degree.

Easy 6
02-12-2007, 06:35 PM
I drove past the cul-de-sac where I received my first bj the other day.

Hey, it's historical to me!

If only a way could be found to bronze a cul-de-sac... :)

dtebbe
02-12-2007, 06:35 PM
I lived in Greece for about 3 years, and saw most every major site there, I was amazed at how there was no preservation efforts at most of the sites. You could trudge all over them, and pretty much take anything you liked (this was 89-91).

Hands down The USS Arizona memorial at Pearl Harbor is the one that most strikes a chord with me. The day I visited there were a bunch of pearl harbor vets there, and I really just wanted to shake every one of thier hands and thank them. They really are our greatest generation, and honestly I don't think our nation will ever be that great again, as sad as it is to say...

http://www.nps.gov/pwr/customcf/apps/CMS_HandF/GreenBoxPics/USAR_Header%20Image%20(MPL)%20USS%20Arizona%20Memorial%201.jpg

DT

cdcox
02-12-2007, 06:36 PM
Rome: Catacombs, colleseum, forum

Venice: just about the whole city

Revena: some old Byzantine churches that I forget the name of

Many historical cathedrals in London, Rome, Milan, Venice, Florence

Edinburgh Castle, Tower of London, and Ljubljana Castle

Gettysburg

Williamsburg, VA

Historic Philadelphia

and probaly 100 or so smaller sites.

l

Hydrae
02-12-2007, 06:37 PM
Lot's of cool places listed, some of which I have been fortunate enough to have visited in my lifetime. I am far from done in my exploring historical sites and museums.

When I was around 7 we went to see the USS North Carolina (Link (http://www.battleshipnc.com/index.html)). Back then they did a show at night. It was like a drive-in theatre, complete with the box hanging in the drivers window for the sound. But what a show! They blew off blanks while the soundtrack followed the orders being called out on deck and everything. Talk about impressive, especially to a 7 yer old!

I have also had the honor of visiting the concentration camp at Dachau (Link (http://www.kz-gedenkstaette-dachau.de/englisch/content/)). There was a museum there with pictures taken when the allies showed up that still make me shudder 30 years later. And that is just from pictures, I can not begin to imagine being there either as a liberator finding that or living it as a prisoner. They have torn down the barracks but left all the foundations. There were 32 barracks and each probably held up to 100 people each. In the back part were the showers where they gassed them. Anyway, very moving place if you ever fnd yourself in Germany.

The last thing I would like to throw out is actually a museum. Although it is not well known I thoroughly enjoyed it and would recommend it to any of you in the area. I am talking about the Museum of Westward Expansion (Link (http://www.gatewayarch.com/Arch/info/act.museum.aspx)) located beneath the Gateway Arch in St Louis.

JohninGpt
02-12-2007, 06:40 PM
I live in Suffolk, VA and if I go outside and throw a rock it lands in Portsmouth, so I have lots of history on my doorstep.
Before I joined the Navy I did Civil War Re-enacting, and have been to battlefields all over the country, mostly around MO, KS, AR, and OK, but occasionally farther east.
I also spent a couple years on a small island off of Sardinia. While I was there I toured Italy by train whenever possible. Saw all of the sights I could. My favorite is probably Pompei, plaster people are cool.
A few years ago I was in Turkey and got the opportunity to see Troy, and while in Iraq I probably saw buildings every day that pre-dated dirt.

Jenson71
02-12-2007, 06:41 PM
The picture is becoming clearer, i majored in history for a short time but found an awful lot of it boring...or more to the point, presented in a very boring way.

I'm a history major. So far, nothing has been too boring. I know there a few history majors on chiefsplanet who, like Donger, don't do anything related to their major.

Easy 6
02-12-2007, 06:45 PM
Hydrae, just watching Schindlers List turns me into a cauldron of blubbering rage, i really dont think i could handle seeing a museum full of awful mementos.

The people who need to see them are skinheads & Arab/Persian Holocaust deniers.

I'm sure it was a very moving experience for you.

Fairplay
02-12-2007, 06:45 PM
Washington DC a couple times. Tons of sites there. To me its a must see if anyone has one patriotic bone in their body.

Gettysburg. Appomattox courthouse.

Battle of New Orleans site. Lincoln tomb, home and museum.

6 Presidents homes. Monticello being the best.

Dealey Plaza. A bunch of capitols. Grand Canyon.

Thats the main places that stick out.

Easy 6
02-12-2007, 06:48 PM
I'm a history major. So far, nothing has been too boring. I know there a few history majors on chiefsplanet who, like Donger, don't do anything related to their major.

It was the same numbskulled professor over 2 semesters that killed my interest in going further.

Donger
02-12-2007, 06:49 PM
Isn't it interesting how people define an "historical site?"

Not picking on you Fairplay, but is the Grand Canyon really an historical site? I know it has a history, but all "sites" do.

FAX
02-12-2007, 06:50 PM
This one time, I watched Mr. Skip Towne drive his Astrovan down the highway.

FAX

C-Mac
02-12-2007, 06:54 PM
Does walking on the moon count?

Easy 6
02-12-2007, 06:56 PM
Does walking on the moon count?

I'm gonna say yes.

Donger
02-12-2007, 07:00 PM
Does walking on the moon count?

Yes, but only it's only worth 1/6 of walking in Tulsa.

CoMoChief
02-12-2007, 07:13 PM
Mt. Rushmore was really cool when I took the family in the Summer of 2000.


I remember i went there when i was 8 yrs old and I met the last living guy who helped build the monument. I bet he probably died shortly aftewards because them man was around 100yrs old.

SD makes a great vacation destination, especially if you like the outdoors.

BucEyedPea
02-12-2007, 07:26 PM
Rome: Catacombs, colleseum, forum
Venice: just about the whole city
Many historical cathedrals in London, Rome, Milan, Venice, Florence

This is one place I wanna go to next—badly. ( Besides the Lost City of the Incas, China, Bali, India, Alaska and more Amerian West) Except I want to go the the Italian lakes near the Alps too. I would like to rent a villa in Florence and Umbria for a month...take art and cooking classes. Some of those villas look really really nice...in a rustic way.



Originally Posted by Lzen
Mt. Rushmore was really cool when I took the family in the Summer of 2000.

That's when I was there....over the 4th of July!!!

FAX
02-12-2007, 07:30 PM
I went to Bulgaria once. There were lots of old things there.

Buildings, too.

FAX

cdcox
02-12-2007, 07:39 PM
Saw some Myan ruins in Mexico too.

Donger
02-12-2007, 07:40 PM
I would like to rent a villa in Florence and Umbria for a month

My folks just did that, in Umbria.

crazycoffey
02-12-2007, 07:47 PM
Isn't it interesting how people define an "historical site?"




your a self proclaimed European, I said my most significant historical visit was to Sarajevo, and standing on the street where Archduke Ferdinand was killed.

Out of curiousity, does that stack up to European standards?

BucEyedPea
02-12-2007, 07:48 PM
My folks just did that, in Umbria.
Cool. I heard Umbria is wilder ( scenery wise) than Tuscany.
Did they like it?

Donger
02-12-2007, 07:50 PM
your a self proclaimed European, I said my most significant historical visit was to Sarajevo, and standing on the street where Archduke Ferdinand was killed.

Out of curiousity, does that stack up to European standards?

I never said I was European. I was born and raised there, yes, but I'm an American.

I'd certainly say that's an "historical site," since it was an event that had a significant impact on human history.

Donger
02-12-2007, 07:51 PM
Cool. I heard Umbria is wilder ( scenery wise) than Tuscany.
Did they like it?

They've been to Italy many times in recent years, but yes, they loved it. My father loves the Italian people. And where they stayed was amazing.

crazycoffey
02-12-2007, 07:52 PM
I never said I was European. I was born and raised there, yes, but I'm an American.

I'd certainly say that's an "historical site," since it was an event that had a significant impact on human history.


sorry I can't type sarcasim.

BTW is that Mister Rodgers in your avitar?

Jenson71
02-12-2007, 07:52 PM
your a self proclaimed European, I said my most significant historical visit was to Sarajevo, and standing on the street where Archduke Ferdinand was killed.

Out of curiousity, does that stack up to European standards?

I think that's awesome. Gavrillo Princip.

crazycoffey
02-12-2007, 07:53 PM
They've been to Italy many times in recent years, but yes, they loved it. My father loves the Italian people. And where they stayed was amazing.

Italy is a very nice place too.

Jenson71
02-12-2007, 07:53 PM
sorry I can't type sarcasim.

BTW is that Mister Rodgers in your avitar?

You're supposed to see that and think boom. Big boom.

Donger
02-12-2007, 07:54 PM
sorry I can't type sarcasim.

BTW is that Mister Rodgers in your avitar?

What were you being sarcastic about?

And, no. That isn't Mr. Rogers.

crazycoffey
02-12-2007, 07:55 PM
I think that's awesome. Gavrillo Princip.


Gravrilo Princip the assassin

crazycoffey
02-12-2007, 07:56 PM
What were you being sarcastic about? ah it doesn't matter

And, no. That isn't Mr. Rogers. I really didn't think so, even still, the picture looks familiar, who is he?

Donger
02-12-2007, 08:01 PM
That's my grandfather.

splatbass
02-12-2007, 08:03 PM
Isn't it interesting how people define an "historical site?"

Not picking on you Fairplay, but is the Grand Canyon really an historical site? I know it has a history, but all "sites" do.

Ever read about Major John Wesley Powell and his exploration of the Grand Canyon when you were studying history?

crazycoffey
02-12-2007, 08:04 PM
That's my grandfather.



Is he connected to your location???

Donger
02-12-2007, 08:05 PM
Is he connected to your location???

I wouldn't think so. He died in 1967.

Donger
02-12-2007, 08:06 PM
Ever read about Major John Wesley Powell and his exploration of the Grand Canyon when you were studying history?

Yeah, sure. He had one arm, IIRC. Like I said, ANY and EVERY location has "history."

Jenson71
02-12-2007, 08:07 PM
That's my grandfather.

Well this is interesting.

Extra Point
02-12-2007, 08:07 PM
Oppenheimer's cool'!

BucEyedPea
02-12-2007, 08:08 PM
They've been to Italy many times in recent years, but yes, they loved it. My father loves the Italian people. And where they stayed was amazing.
I take it you married an Italian to please him then? :p

crazycoffey
02-12-2007, 08:11 PM
I wouldn't think so. He died in 1967.


I'm refering to your profile location, the lat/long degrees. comes to the site where the gov tested nukes and the Trinity test in 1945, so he would have been alive during that time.

I've asked before why you picked that location, it seems rather precise to be random.

Donger
02-12-2007, 08:12 PM
I take it you married an Italian to please him then? :p

No. But it is amusing to observe him when the families get together.

Donger
02-12-2007, 08:13 PM
I'm refering to your profile location, the lat/long degrees. comes to the site where the gov tested nukes and the Trinity test in 1945, so he would have been alive during that time.

I've asked before why you picked that location, it seems rather precise to be random.

1945 came before 1967.

crazycoffey
02-12-2007, 08:18 PM
1945 came before 1967.


NO, I meant he would/could be related to the testing not killed during the testing. In fact, I didn't know that anyone died from the trinity project.

Donger
02-12-2007, 08:20 PM
NO, I meant he would/could be related to the testing not killed during the testing. In fact, I didn't know that anyone died from the trinity project.

What's the "trinity project?"

Fairplay
02-12-2007, 08:22 PM
The goverment knows nothing about what you are saying.

Spott
02-12-2007, 08:25 PM
Mayan ruins in Cozumel.

Antietam & Manassas

St Augustine lots of times(oldest city in the U.S.)

Hoover Dam and Grand Canyon

Delivered pizzas to the dancers in some strip club in Phoenix a bunch of times in college.

crazycoffey
02-12-2007, 08:26 PM
You're supposed to see that and think boom. Big boom.



I know, his title says think boom and his location is where the gov tested Nukes - the Trinity project.

then he says the picture is his grandfather, only his grandfather died in 1967, so somehow he couldn't have been involved with the trinity project in 1945.

I think the picture is of robert Oppenheimer, like extra point, pointed out.


Posted by Extra Point - Today at 09:07 PMOppenheimer's cool'!

Donger
02-12-2007, 08:28 PM
I know, his title says think boom and his location is where the gov tested Nukes - the Trinity project.

then he says the picture is his grandfather, only his grandfather died in 1967, so somehow he couldn't have been involved with the trinity project in 1945.

I think the picture is of robert Oppenheimer, like extra point, pointed out.


Posted by Extra Point - Today at 09:07 PMOppenheimer's cool'!

For the love of God...

Your location is "Eternal Damnation." What bearing does that have on your actual location?

crazycoffey
02-12-2007, 08:28 PM
What's the "trinity project?"


here comes the answers to questions with questions.


I know you know about it, I was just curious to why you are so interested that you use that much info in your profile. I thought you may have a cool story to share.


sorry, I'll leave it alone.

Donger
02-12-2007, 08:33 PM
here comes the answers to questions with questions.


I know you know about it, I was just curious to why you are so interested that you use that much info in your profile. I thought you may have a cool story to share.


sorry, I'll leave it alone.

Here's a neat story. Did you know when they were trying to load the physics package into the gadget, it wouldn't fit? The plutonium generated enough heat to make it expand so that it wouldn't fit. They had to wait until it heated up the rest of the device to fit in.

crazycoffey
02-12-2007, 08:36 PM
For the love of God...

Your location is "Eternal Damnation." What bearing does that have on your actual location?


HA, he finally broke

JK


it means that I'm in hell? Sometimes it feels like it, but I'm not obsessed with it and have satan as my title and a picture of the devil.....



I really and truely thought there may be a cool scientist / military story to go along with it.

CHILL, I'm only a figment of your imagination.

Donger
02-12-2007, 08:37 PM
HA, he finally broke

JK


it means that I'm in hell? Sometimes it feels like it, but I'm not obsessed with it and have satan as my title and a picture of the devil.....



I really and truely thought there may be a cool scientist / military story to go along with it.

CHILL, I'm only a figment of your imagination.

See above, figment.

crazycoffey
02-12-2007, 08:39 PM
The goverment knows nothing about what you are saying.



OH, jeez go watch another conspiracy movie.

Jenson71
02-12-2007, 08:41 PM
I think the picture is of robert Oppenheimer


It is Oppenheimer, the head of the Manhattan Project. The guy was a genius. And it's very possible to be part of the testing in the mid 1940s and still die in 1967. I don't see how that could not be possible.

If Donger is his grandson, which I've no reason to doubt, because I think Oppenheimer had at least two children, then he probably has some interesting stories. Especially with the communist angle.

Of course, he's probably just a damn liar, the bloody bastard.

Donger
02-12-2007, 08:41 PM
OH, jeez go watch another conspiracy movie.

Do you have ADD?

crazycoffey
02-12-2007, 08:44 PM
Here's a neat story. Did you know when they were trying to load the physics package into the gadget, it wouldn't fit? The plutonium generated enough heat to make it expand so that it wouldn't fit. They had to wait until it heated up the rest of the device to fit in.



Interesting.


wanna know something else interesting, when I did a search on the numeric value in your location, this was #5 in the search list.


http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=154920&page=1

Donger
02-12-2007, 08:46 PM
Interesting.


wanna know something else interesting, when I did a search on the numeric value in your location, this was #5 in the search list.


http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=154920&page=1

Why is that thread interesting?

crazycoffey
02-12-2007, 08:47 PM
It is Oppenheimer, the head of the Manhattan Project. The guy was a genius. And it's very possible to be part of the testing in the mid 1940s and still die in 1967. I don't see how that could not be possible.

If Donger is his grandson, which I've no reason to doubt, because I think Oppenheimer had at least two children, then he probably has some interesting stories. Especially with the communist angle.



Obvious post alert, BTW I was clear about the years involved and the year of donger's grandpa passing and how the possibility remained. The dongmeister seemed to insinuate that his grandpa couldn't be involved with trinity because he died in 1967. Not me. Don't jump on someone just to jump on them.

I like donger, I asked a legitimate question, he played coy, I was never intenting to make him or anyone else upset over this.


peace to all.....

Donger
02-12-2007, 08:49 PM
It is Oppenheimer, the head of the Manhattan Project. The guy was a genius. And it's very possible to be part of the testing in the mid 1940s and still die in 1967. I don't see how that could not be possible.

If Donger is his grandson, which I've no reason to doubt, because I think Oppenheimer had at least two children, then he probably has some interesting stories. Especially with the communist angle.

Yes, he was brilliant. He was also a prick and a prima donna of gargantuan proportions.

crazycoffey
02-12-2007, 08:51 PM
Why is that thread interesting?


the thread in itself isn't, that it is ranked the fifth largest resource on google for your lat/long number is what I thought humorous and interesting.

crazycoffey
02-12-2007, 08:53 PM
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Location: 33.675° N 106.475° W ... Location: 33.675° N 106.475° W. Quote: Originally Posted by Laz. but we are talking "PROFIT" here ...
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Jenson71
02-12-2007, 08:54 PM
Yes, he was brilliant. He was also a prick and a prima donna of gargantuan proportions.

If you've read the Pulitzer winning biography on him, what's your take on it?

Donger
02-12-2007, 08:55 PM
If you've read the Pulitzer winning biography on him, what's your take on it?

I've not read it. Honestly, I wasn't even aware of it.

Pitt Gorilla
02-12-2007, 08:57 PM
www.history.com

Easy 6
02-12-2007, 09:20 PM
Yes, he was brilliant. He was also a prick and a prima donna of gargantuan proportions.

A common theme with creative genius'.

cdcox
02-12-2007, 09:27 PM
A common theme with creative genius'.

I think he was more of a destructive genius.

Easy 6
02-12-2007, 09:30 PM
I think he was more of a destructive genius.

Touche`, a more appropriate moniker.

Donger
02-12-2007, 09:31 PM
Of course, I'm just kidding. Oppenheimer wasn't my grandfather. I just studied the project with some focus in my youth and I have some professional interest in the overall field now.

OnTheWarpath58
02-12-2007, 09:33 PM
Of course, I'm just kidding. Oppenheimer wasn't my grandfather. I just studied the project with some focus in my youth and I have some professional interest in the overall field now.

DAMNIT DONGER! :cuss:

Mosbonian
02-12-2007, 09:34 PM
Some of the highlights, that I can think of off the top of my head:

Charleston/Fort Sumter

I spent a great deal of time when I lived in Columbia SC traveling to Charleston to do some of my own research on the Civil War. While I see that you visited Fort Sumter, did you stop at Fort Moultrie also? I was actually there when they raised the Hunley.

It's interesting to read about the Civil War from both sides point of view. And even more interesting is the civility in which communications were addressed between the Generals of the Confederate and Union armies, while reading of the brutality of the fighting between those 2 sides.

mmaddog
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Donger
02-12-2007, 09:36 PM
I think he was more of a destructive genius.

I think that bothered Oppie more than anything. No one knew for sure what would happen. Hell, Fermi was taking bets that they would set fire to the atmosphere before the Trinity Test. In jest, perhaps, but still.

Easy 6
02-12-2007, 09:36 PM
Of course, I'm just kidding. Oppenheimer wasn't my grandfather. I just studied the project with some focus in my youth and I have some professional interest in the overall field now.

I kinda had my doubts considering you've said your mother is Brit & father a Scot.

Donger
02-12-2007, 09:41 PM
DAMNIT DONGER! :cuss:

Was it not obvious?

OnTheWarpath58
02-12-2007, 09:47 PM
Was it not obvious?


I think several people were actually considering the possibility.

Oppenheimer being your GF would have fit right in next to the untimely death of John Goodman.....

Jenny Gump
02-12-2007, 09:49 PM
I've been no where exciting except to D.C. (the usual sites). I also went to the Alamo, but *yawn* that was a bore. I need to get out more. My problem is when I vacation I like to go to the beach.

Joe Seahawk
02-12-2007, 09:49 PM
I went to Machu Pichu last month, that was by far the coolest historical place I've ever been..

Jenson71
02-12-2007, 09:52 PM
I've not read it. Honestly, I wasn't even aware of it.

Well here's the Amazon link to the book. Like I said, it won the Pulitzer Prize in Autobiography/Biography in 2006.

American Prometheus: The Triumph and Tragedy of J. Robert Oppenheimer (http://www.amazon.com/American-Prometheus-Triumph-Tragedy-Oppenheimer/dp/0375726268/sr=8-1/qid=1171338756/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-4826815-6212033?ie=UTF8&s=books)

Easy 6
02-12-2007, 09:57 PM
I went to Machu Pichu last month, that was by far the coolest historical place I've ever been..

That would be EXCELLENT.

I must admit, i'm even more impressed than i thought i would be with all of you Planeteers. Some globe spanning sumguns you all are, easily my most favorite non-football thread i've created.

The Ziggaraut of Ur is perhaps the most fascinating structure i've ever laid eyes on, that pic really draws me in.

Pierce
02-12-2007, 10:46 PM
I visited Germany this past summer and saw some very historical places...

Such as the rally grounds in Nuremberg. The platform you see is where Hitler stood, and I stood on that same platform. Chilling.

http://www.odu.edu/~mcarhart/hist102/pics/nurembergrally.jpg

I also visited the Dachau concentration camp. Talk about a surreal experience. It was quite an emotional and gloomy day to be honest.

Slick32
02-12-2007, 11:53 PM
I know I've been to more than I remember but:

1. Washington DC - Smithsonian Musuems, War Memorials, Lincon Memorial, Washington Memorial, U.S. Capitol,
2. I've been on the Lewis and Clark Trail
3. The National Prisoner of War Museum at Andersonville National Historic Site
4. St. Augustine
5. Fort Leavenworth.
6. Hickam Field, Hawaii
7. Pearl Harbor
8. Liberty Hall, Philadelphia
9. Philadelphia Mint
10. Pro Football HOF
11. The Citadel, Halifax, Nova Scotia
12. Edinburgh Castle, Scotland
13. Loch Ness, Scotland
14. Lauriston Castle, Scotland
15. Cable Cars, San Francisco
16. Kilauea Volcano, Hawaii
17. Mt. St. Helens, Washington
18. Montecello
19?? Bermuda Triangle several times.

I'll have to dig through my files and find some of the other places I've been. Update to follow.