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Sully
02-19-2007, 04:38 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2771399

Wow.

I guess it's too much to wish for that the Chiefs would give this guy a sniff?

Buck
02-19-2007, 04:39 PM
Who is your DC?

DMAC
02-19-2007, 04:43 PM
What the hell is going on? Did I wake up in bizarro world?

dirk digler
02-19-2007, 04:43 PM
The Chiefs would be dumb not to try to get this guy and kick Gun's ass to the curb.

HolmeZz
02-19-2007, 04:43 PM
Does Rivera like the Cover-2? I know Lovie made Chicago use it.

Woodrow Call
02-19-2007, 04:49 PM
I'd like to see Herm make run at him but I doubt it happens. Gun is here as long as Herm is IMO and with the D finally moving in the right direction I don't see it happening.

Frazod
02-19-2007, 04:49 PM
I'd take him in a heartbeat.

Buck
02-19-2007, 04:50 PM
Who is your guy's current DC?

Woodrow Call
02-19-2007, 04:51 PM
Who is your guy's current DC?

Gunther Cunningham

dirk digler
02-19-2007, 04:51 PM
Who is your guy's current DC?

Gunther Cunningham

Tribal Warfare
02-19-2007, 04:52 PM
Does Rivera like the Cover-2? I know Lovie made Chicago use it.


damn skippy

Deberg_1990
02-19-2007, 04:54 PM
Gunther Cunningham



and hes not even a "true" Cover 2 guy.....im still trying to figure out why Edwards kept him when he got hired?? Still mystified??

Woodrow Call
02-19-2007, 04:56 PM
and hes not even a "true" Cover 2 guy.....im still trying to figure out why Edwards kept him when he got hired?? Still mystified??

I'm not sure either. I know Herm tried to get him while he was in NY as well but I'm not sure why.

Mile High Mania
02-19-2007, 04:57 PM
Maybe he will end up in San Diego.

dirk digler
02-19-2007, 04:57 PM
Fire Gunther bring in Rivera

Buck
02-19-2007, 05:00 PM
Fire Gunther bring in Rivera

Dont let el borracho see that post.

Tribal Warfare
02-19-2007, 05:01 PM
Fire Gunther bring in Rivera


or make Gun an "assistant head coach" then bring in Rivera

Sully
02-19-2007, 05:03 PM
or make Gun an "assistant head coach" then bring in Rivera

That would lead to a "shit or get off the pot" scenario.

BigRock
02-19-2007, 05:03 PM
Come on, Rivera is so important that the Bears are letting him walk. Lovie runs that defense. If Herm can replace Gun with Lovie, now we're talking.

Woodrow Call
02-19-2007, 05:04 PM
or make Gun an "assistant head coach" then bring in Rivera

That would work for me.

Tribal Warfare
02-19-2007, 05:04 PM
That would lead to a "shit or get off the pot" scenario.


Then Gun will fade away

Iowanian
02-19-2007, 05:31 PM
So..........

Rivera is familiar with Herm's style of defense.

I"ll compose the post on a webpage to let Gunther know....

Reaper16
02-19-2007, 05:32 PM
So..........

Rivera is familiar with Herm's style of defense.

I"ll compose the post on a webpage to let Gunther know....
ROFL

kcmaxwell
02-19-2007, 06:23 PM
Rivera is familiar with Herm's style of defense.

I"ll compose the post on a webpage to let Gunther know....


man...That is Harsh!!! hehehe

kcmax

Iowanian
02-19-2007, 06:27 PM
I'm not joking.

Gunther isn't a cover 2 coach....This ISN'T his style of Defense.

If you want to save face, make him a ST clock management and assistant head coach.

Rivera is a better fit in this case. If the Chiefs were serious about winning, they'll at least ponder the option.

"Inside Sources at Arrowhead have indicated that Defensive coordinator, Gunther Cunningham will be released monday if he won't accept his new position as Linebackers and ST assistant"

Click. Send all.

dirk digler
02-19-2007, 06:27 PM
So..........

Rivera is familiar with Herm's style of defense.

I"ll compose the post on a webpage to let Gunther know....

LMAO

Nice

Pushead2
02-19-2007, 06:31 PM
I'm not joking.

Gunther isn't a cover 2 coach....This ISN'T his style of Defense.

If you want to save face, make him a ST clock management and assistant head coach.

Rivera is a better fit in this case. If the Chiefs were serious about winning, they'll at least ponder the option.

"Inside Sources at Arrowhead have indicated that Defensive coordinator, Gunther Cunningham will be released monday if he won't accept his new position as Linebackers and ST assistant"

Click. Send all.

??? in reference to the last part, that really a rumor??

ChiefsCountry
02-19-2007, 06:31 PM
According to some things coming out from Chicago, Love and Babich? were the minds behind the defense and Rivera took alot of credit.

Iowanian
02-19-2007, 06:36 PM
Can someone assist the noob, before I decide to tell him its fact and to spread the news?

Push....I'll tell you the rest of the story and provide the link to the information in that post, however now that you've read the teaser, you're going to have to pay a premium membership to get the rest.

Pushead2
02-19-2007, 06:38 PM
The way things are going in this NFL offseason I wouldn't put anything out of reach.

Frazod
02-19-2007, 06:41 PM
Come on, Rivera is so important that the Bears are letting him walk. Lovie runs that defense. If Herm can replace Gun with Lovie, now we're talking.

A more accurate assessment would be that Bears ownership is notoriously cheap and already has to open the dusty coffers to pay Lovie. They simply don't want to have to pony up for anybody else.

bringbackmarty
02-19-2007, 06:42 PM
tamba
thats why, and dj, he is a good positional coach, especially w pass rushing ends and lb.

ChiefsCountry
02-19-2007, 06:47 PM
??? in reference to the last part, that really a rumor??

Gunther found out he got canned as head coach via the internet.

milkman
02-19-2007, 06:57 PM
The Chiefs would be dumb not to try to get this guy and kick Gun's ass to the curb.

So, since we are talking about the Chiefs, the question becomes, where does Rivera end up?

joemama
02-19-2007, 07:22 PM
Chiefs gave up 188 on the ground and 252 through the air against the Colts.

Bears gave up 191 on the ground and 239 through the air against the Colts.

Bears Defense: 3 Pro Bowlers

Chiefs: 0

Not sure if Rivera is an improvement or not? :hmmm:

el borracho
02-19-2007, 07:35 PM
Gunther goes nowhere, suckas! Be sure to bump this thread at the end of the year when our D goes top ten.

Reaper16
02-19-2007, 07:36 PM
Chiefs gave up 188 on the ground and 252 through the air against the Colts.

Bears gave up 191 on the ground and 239 through the air against the Colts.

Bears Defense: 3 Pro Bowlers

Chiefs: 0

Not sure if Rivera is an improvement or not? :hmmm:
Bears weren't the same after injuries to Brown and Harris went down.

milkman
02-19-2007, 07:55 PM
Gunther goes nowhere, suckas! Be sure to bump this thread at the end of the year when our D goes top ten.


No problem.

Be sure to pay close attention to us when we tell you that Gunt has absolutely nothing to do with it if it does happen.

Deberg_1990
02-19-2007, 08:38 PM
Bears weren't the same after injuries to Brown and Harris went down.


Then what difference will a coaching change for the Chiefs make then?

Mr. Laz
02-19-2007, 09:08 PM
i wish ...... won't happen though

kstater
02-19-2007, 09:13 PM
The Bears decided to go with the
Chargers offseason plan.



Fire the coaches that get you to the playoffs.

SBK
02-19-2007, 09:23 PM
If Rivera will teach our guys how to cause a fumble we should pay him a ton.

DaneMcCloud
02-19-2007, 09:25 PM
Rivera was hired by the Chargers a their linebackers coach.

milkman
02-19-2007, 09:30 PM
Rivera was hired by the Chargers a their linebackers coach.

Link?

Miles
02-19-2007, 09:30 PM
Kind of surprised he ended up being a LB coach after all the talk about him and the Cowboys.

Miles
02-19-2007, 09:31 PM
Link?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2771716

doomy3
02-19-2007, 09:31 PM
just said on ESPN that Rivera was hired by Chargers as LB coach. WOW.

el borracho
02-19-2007, 09:34 PM
Rivera was hired by the Chargers a their linebackers coach.
The Chargers have a LB coach but not a D coordinator?

Tribal Warfare
02-19-2007, 09:45 PM
just said on ESPN that Rivera was hired by Chargers as LB coach. WOW.



Man I think I can hear Rod Serling In the background now

" When does the firing of accomplished coaches become more than an aberration? Is it from a harsh reaction to mind altering anal ointment, or could it be the seventh sign of the apocalypse?"

Tonight we will find out in the Twilight Zone

DaneMcCloud
02-19-2007, 09:52 PM
The Chargers have a LB coach but not a D coordinator?

Ted Cotrell is the new DC.

Coach
02-19-2007, 09:53 PM
LMAO @ the Chargers.

Buzzsaw
02-19-2007, 09:58 PM
Ted Cotrell is the new DC.

He was awful for the Jets. Even Herm fired him. His "bend but don't break" philosophy drove us nuts.

dj56dt58
02-19-2007, 10:06 PM
I like the mix of Herm's cover 2 style and Gunther's aggressiveness..I think it's good to change it up throughout the game. I think mixing their styles together will work out well

milkman
02-19-2007, 10:09 PM
He was awful for the Jets. Even Herm fired him. His "bend but don't break" philosophy drove us nuts.

Cottrell was a scapegoat.

Herman ****ing Edwards is a cover 2 guy.
Cottrell is a 34 guy.

Herman ****ing Edwards keeps trying to fit round hles into square pegs.

Why the **** doesn't Herman ****ing Edwards hire cover 2 guys to run a cover 2 defense?

tk13
02-19-2007, 10:46 PM
You mean to tell me nobody even wanted to hire Rivera as a DC? I never would've guessed that.

dirk digler
02-19-2007, 10:49 PM
**** that sucks. Way to go Herm.

Deberg_1990
02-19-2007, 10:49 PM
You mean to tell me nobody even wanted to hire Rivera as a DC? I never would've guessed that.

Yea, the guy goes falls from a Head Coaching prospect to a linebackers coach...WTF??


Im surprised he took the demotion?

Coach
02-19-2007, 10:54 PM
You mean to tell me nobody even wanted to hire Rivera as a DC? I never would've guessed that.

Well, a good debate at that is that defense could have been lead by Lovie instead of Rivera.

DMAC
02-19-2007, 10:59 PM
There must be something we don't know about this guy.

Because I don't understand at all.

dirk digler
02-19-2007, 11:13 PM
Multiple published reports the Bears have parted ways with defensive coordinator Ron Rivera, whose contract was set to expire on Tuesday. Just last week, Rivera said that he planned on staying with the Bears.

The story was first reported on Monday afternoon by Jay Glazer of FOXSports.com, who has pretty much earned his salary for the year in the past 24 hours.

A league source tells us that the decision not to retain Rivera was made by head coach Lovie Smith. Given that information the decision bothers us, for two reasons.

First, it's no secret that Smith currently is trying to snag a long-term extension with the Bears. It's also no secret that Rivera's performance this season resulted in multiple interviews for head-coaching vacancies. So, by running Rivera out of town, Smith increased his own leverage as he enters his lame-duck season, since now the Bears don't have a handy in-house alternative.

Second, if Rivera wasn't going to be retained, why didn't the Bears let him walk sooner? On one hand, hanging onto Rivera gave him a full and fair chance to land a head-coaching job. If he'd been fired, his chances of getting one of the various head-coaching jobs would have been even slimmer.

And even though the Chargers' job was filled on Monday, the last expected vacancy disappeared 10 days ago when Wade Phillips became the coach of the Cowboys. So why not cut Rivera loose then?

With all that said, the talk in league circles is that this decision was in the works for a while, apparently due to the perception that the Bears' defense performed ineffectively in the second half of the season.

Rivera quickly found a landing space. He'll coach the linebackers in San Diego, a clear step backwards for a guy whose window of opportunity for a head-coaching job has, for now, slammed shut. And he'll add the 3-4 to his existing knowledge of the 4-3 used by the Eagles and the Tampa Two used by the Bears.

Guru
02-20-2007, 12:20 AM
Maybe he will end up in San Diego.
BINGO

chagrin
02-20-2007, 06:56 AM
Ididots, morons - I am totally shocked - what the hell is McCaskey thinking?

Is Lovie going to be a "lame duck" as that story stated? I don't believe that for a second, furthermore why the hell wouldn't they want to keep that guy? And I have to agree, we should actually have canned Gun and hired him as DC; even though we made progress, I just don't see how he would be a bad choice.

CupidStunt
02-20-2007, 07:29 AM
Im surprised he took the demotion?

That or unemployment.

jspchief
02-20-2007, 07:36 AM
Sounds to me like the Bears screwed him over.

I imagine this will change how coaches' contracts are structered.

Sully
02-20-2007, 08:54 AM
I bet the Chiefs didn't even make a phone call.

Sully
02-20-2007, 12:24 PM
Ididots, morons - I am totally shocked - what the hell is McCaskey thinking?

Is Lovie going to be a "lame duck" as that story stated? I don't believe that for a second, furthermore why the hell wouldn't they want to keep that guy? And I have to agree, we should actually have canned Gun and hired him as DC; even though we made progress, I just don't see how he would be a bad choice.

How could it have been a bad choice? I agree...

Bottom line is that this guy has been a head coach candidate for the past couple of years, he helmed a great D in Chicago... and he could've possibly been the next in line for Herm's job, if he were here.


Buh.