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bringbackmarty
02-22-2007, 11:26 PM
Here are the facts as we know them.

32 y\o Skinny white guy, plays an instrument that is known to cause spinal misalignment and shoulder back neck problems. Had some lower back problems in the past, but nothing rest didn't cure.

Then I was the victim of a hit and run auto accident 1 year and four months ago. No broken bones, just soft tissue injury to my neck and back, took three months to rehab with the chiropractor. Then the shoulder flares up, well after rehab is done, maybe it's related, maybe not. Then the neck again, both hurting constantly since July.

Mri last fall turns up some spondyliosis in the neck. But nothing else. The doctor didn't order anything for the shoulder. Says I have arthritis. I think that's bullshit, inflammation yes, full blown arthritis, no. It's too acute, like two vicodin acute, although I don't take them anymore. Don't want to have to go to rehab.

My chiro is good, but not getting it done this time. I think it could be that I have a pinched nerve, or a combination of arthritis and an inflamed, or torn rotator cuff.

I need recommendations or advice for a bunch of stuff. I gotta get my life under control, and out from underneath the pain.

1. Primary doctor, mine is too busy, and she has had two years to get a handle on this, and other problems and her track record sucks. I want someone who is more accessible, and close to UMKC, The Plaza, or Brookside. preferably affiliated with St. Lukes, or Research, cause my insurance likes them.

2. Back\Neck\Shoulder\spine injury doctor.
a specialist who knows how to treat injuries and inflammation on large joints. Again close to the aforementioned areas, but if someone is really good, I'll travel.

3. Pain management specialist. Other parts of my body are also in pain, these are more episodic, but really a drag, and they exhaust me.

I think part of it is my mattress is too old, and I'm not able to restore or heal properly because I get no sleep.I need to get a new queen size mattress. Would need one that can be used on a platform bed (no box spring). Thinking about a Tempur-pedic, heard some good, and some bad. Can only consider a real tempur-pedic, because the wife wants both the trial period, and the warranty. Budget will restrict us to under $2,000.

Otherwise it's conventional mattresses, or a sleep number which I haven't even looked into yet.

Thanks a lot for your help people, I really appreciate it...

Ebolapox
02-22-2007, 11:33 PM
antifreeze?

Jenson71
02-22-2007, 11:34 PM
Well, I have no advice. Personally, I like hard beds. Firm areas. The floor. Wooden planks. A big rock. I hope your condition really improves though and you get a good doctor.

Simplex3
02-22-2007, 11:48 PM
As much as their commercials suck, the docs out at "The Headache and Pain Center" are very good.

Phobia
02-22-2007, 11:54 PM
Sorry to hear it, brutha. I'm not much help but wanted to say hello and wish you well. I thought about you at the symphony last week.

penguinz
02-23-2007, 05:46 AM
As much as their commercials suck, the docs out at "The Headache and Pain Center" are very good.They are quacks. Will do any surgery whether it is needed or not. Won't even tell you when things are not covered by insurance.

MOhillbilly
02-23-2007, 06:19 AM
lay on the floor w/ your feet elevated for a year.

my dad had a partial crushed L4/L5 and he did this along w/ exercise and it cured him w/ no surgery.

kepp
02-23-2007, 07:10 AM
Here are the facts as we know them.

32 y\o Skinny white guy, plays an instrument that is known to cause spinal misalignment and shoulder back neck problems.
Get rid of the TUBA!!

chief husker
02-23-2007, 07:28 AM
1) Get a better bed. Ditch the platform and pony up for the full deal wirh box springs. We spend over 25% of our lives in them.
2) Yoga or Pilates. Don't give up early. You will feel better. Oh, and there are plenty of honeys there too.
3) Get a good anti imflammatory med. Naprosyn, etc.
Good luck

Skip Towne
02-23-2007, 07:56 AM
KU medical center. You will need a referral from your doctor. She should be willing to do it since she can't handle it.

JimNasium
02-23-2007, 08:54 AM
KU medical center. You will need a referral from your doctor. She should be willing to do it since she can't handle it.
Let me get this straight, the dude who won't go see a doctor when his arm goes numb is recommending that a guy with a back problem go see the doctor? Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction. I still love you though Mike.

NewChief
02-23-2007, 09:04 AM
Are you overweight at all? Do you exercise? My father suffered from chronic back problems from about 30-50 years of age. At 50 he started working out, and all of his problems went away within about a year. He wasn't even that overweight, either. Just didn't do any core strength training until then.

Redrum_69
02-23-2007, 09:13 AM
Are you overweight at all? Do you exercise? My father suffered from chronic back problems from about 30-50 years of age. At 50 he started working out, and all of his problems went away within about a year. He wasn't even that overweight, either. Just didn't do any core strength training until then.



Your mom is like lifting weights...before you lift her you have to stretch otherwise you'll injure yourself, you can press all her weight on a bench or curl her multiple times, after weeks of strenuous activity with her you'll notice results, and the more times you lift her the bigger your musle gets.

Caseykid
02-23-2007, 09:42 AM
I injured my neck goofing around in the pool with one of my sons (tried to toss 175 lb. kid up in the air just when he decided to push down on my head). Anyway, I started having a terrible amount of pain and numbness across my back, shoulder, and all the way down to my forearm. MRI showed mostly nothing. Physical therapy, heat and electric shock would somewhat help for about 24 hours but then the pain would come right back. After about 6 months with no relief, my doctor suggested getting a series of epiderals (3) to relieve any possible inflamation of the spinal cord. I only got one because of the outrageous cost and didn't notice any difference for a couple of months but in the third month all the pain slowly faded away. The idea is that if you have a pinched nerve causing inflammation in the spinal cord that the cord area swells causing constriction therefore not allowing the area to heal. With an epideral given at the right spot, the spinal cord swelling is relieved short-term and allows the nerve to begin to heal. You might discuss this with a specialist. I hope you get some relief.

bringbackmarty
02-23-2007, 09:44 AM
lay on the floor w/ your feet elevated for a year.

my dad had a partial crushed L4/L5 and he did this along w/ exercise and it cured him w/ no surgery.

I am hurting too bad to do any physical therapy, But I do have an exercise ball, and can tolerate some streching. Thanks!

bringbackmarty
02-23-2007, 09:45 AM
Get rid of the TUBA!!
upright Bass actually, and I can't, I'm a pro, It's all I know and love.

bringbackmarty
02-23-2007, 09:46 AM
Are you overweight at all? Do you exercise? My father suffered from chronic back problems from about 30-50 years of age. At 50 he started working out, and all of his problems went away within about a year. He wasn't even that overweight, either. Just didn't do any core strength training until then.
No Chronically overweight, and yes I need to put on 30-50 lbs of muscle, but I'm in too much pain to work out. Thanks!

bringbackmarty
02-23-2007, 09:48 AM
1) Get a better bed. Ditch the platform and pony up for the full deal wirh box springs. We spend over 25% of our lives in them.
2) Yoga or Pilates. Don't give up early. You will feel better. Oh, and there are plenty of honeys there too.
3) Get a good anti imflammatory med. Naprosyn, etc.
Good luck

Bed was made by my father, he is dead, Its not the bed, it's the mattress. Box spring won't fit on it.

Hurt too much for yoga, some of the pain has to clear up first. Thanks.

bringbackmarty
02-23-2007, 09:50 AM
I injured my neck goofing around in the pool with one of my sons (tried to toss 175 lb. kid up in the air just when he decided to push down on my head). Anyway, I started having a terrible amount of pain and numbness across my back, shoulder, and all the way down to my forearm. MRI showed mostly nothing. Physical therapy, heat and electric shock would somewhat help for about 24 hours but then the pain would come right back. After about 6 months with no relief, my doctor suggested getting a series of epiderals (3) to relieve any possible inflamation of the spinal cord. I only got one because of the outrageous cost and didn't notice any difference for a couple of months but in the third month all the pain slowly faded away. The idea is that if you have a pinched nerve causing inflammation in the spinal cord that the cord area swells causing constriction therefore not allowing the area to heal. With an epideral given at the right spot, the spinal cord swelling is relieved short-term and allows the nerve to begin to heal. You might discuss this with a specialist. I hope you get some relief.

similar injury ro mine I have a feeling, symptoms are the same,
Thanks!

Phobia
02-23-2007, 09:57 AM
Have you considered amputation?

Mr. Kotter
02-23-2007, 09:58 AM
I've been through something similar....

To make a long story short, you should have a good neurologist check you over. It could be something that surgery can fix.

I was skeptical, but decided to do it. Immediate relief, pretty easy recovery, and haven't regretted it for a moment.

I've lost about 10% of my range-of-motion, in my neck....but that's it. Otherwise, I'm as good as new.

hawkchief
02-23-2007, 10:06 AM
See Mark Berbhardt, MD - Orthopedic surgeon at Dixson-Divley Clinic - St. Luke's. Conservative doc that is an excellent neck/spine surgeon, if needed. Has excellent shoulder partner if needed, also. I sell these guys the implants the put in, so I've seen up close and personal, who is good, and who you might want to shy away from. He is excellent.

bringbackmarty
02-23-2007, 10:44 AM
Have you considered amputation?
Well my wife wants to cut my dick off, should I let her?

bogie
02-23-2007, 10:51 AM
I wish I could help. Sounds like you're doing the right thing in seeking out other opinions. If the mattress could possibly be a part of the problem, I'd be headed for the mattress store today.

bringbackmarty
02-23-2007, 10:56 AM
I wish I could help. Sounds like you're doing the right thing in seeking out other opinions. If the mattress could possibly be a part of the problem, I'd be headed for the mattress store today.

thanks bogie.

bringbackmarty
02-23-2007, 10:57 AM
See Mark Berbhardt, MD - Orthopedic surgeon at Dixson-Divley Clinic - St. Luke's. Conservative doc that is an excellent neck/spine surgeon, if needed. Has excellent shoulder partner if needed, also. I sell these guys the implants the put in, so I've seen up close and personal, who is good, and who you might want to shy away from. He is excellent.
ty hawk. just what I was looking for.

chief2000
02-23-2007, 12:16 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spondylosis

Some advice for you. Don't be a sucker!

Chiros and pain places aren't going to work.

You have nerves that aren't healed or being impinged by vertebrae.

I had one of those stupid Chiros tell a family member that he had back problems. He actually needed a hip replacement. Thats how stupid those son of bitches are. Don't trust them. Those voodoo/snake oil doctor leaches will drain you of your money.

You need to save your money and maybe eventually have neck surgery. Think Jerry Lewis has the chronic pain too and had an implant.

Find a quality website with people that have your problem. keep up with the research news

Skip Towne
02-23-2007, 12:25 PM
Let me get this straight, the dude who won't go see a doctor when his arm goes numb is recommending that a guy with a back problem go see the doctor? Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction. I still love you though Mike.
I'm just telling him what to do not recommending anything.

greg63
02-23-2007, 12:48 PM
Sorry to hear it; have you thought about a chiropractor?

Phobia
02-23-2007, 01:46 PM
Sorry to hear it; have you thought about a chiropractor?

Have you considered reading comprehension lessons?

My chiro is good, but not getting it done this time.

bringbackmarty
02-23-2007, 01:55 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spondylosis

Some advice for you. Don't be a sucker!

Chiros and pain places aren't going to work.

You have nerves that aren't healed or being impinged by vertebrae.

I had one of those stupid Chiros tell a family member that he had back problems. He actually needed a hip replacement. Thats how stupid those son of bitches are. Don't trust them. Those voodoo/snake oil doctor leaches will drain you of your money.

You need to save your money and maybe eventually have neck surgery. Think Jerry Lewis has the chronic pain too and had an implant.

Find a quality website with people that have your problem. keep up with the research news
thank you, very informative.

Inspector
02-23-2007, 01:57 PM
Probably should go ahead and let your wife cut your dick off and see if that provides any relief.

Hope that helps.

Good luck man