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CoMoChief
02-25-2007, 05:42 PM
#1 Wisconsin lost to #2 OSU

#5 UNC lost to Maryland

#3 Florida lost to LSU

If #6KU wins out with a little help they should be a lock for a #1 seed in the NCAA tournament, and more than likely they would be playing in Chicago. I Could see UNC losing again in the ACC Tourney, as well as Wisconsin.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk!!!

royr17
02-25-2007, 05:44 PM
:KU:

Buck
02-25-2007, 05:45 PM
I don't have the pleasure of being a fan of a top 10 team, but to me, it seems silly to care about NCAA Tourney seeding if you are going to be a 3 seed at worst.

Dr. Facebook Fever
02-25-2007, 05:46 PM
:KU:
mines bigger... :p

Dr. Facebook Fever
02-25-2007, 05:48 PM
I don't have the pleasure of being a fan of a top 10 team, but to me, it seems silly to care about NCAA Tourney seeding if you are going to be a 3 seed at worst.
No.

Saulbadguy
02-25-2007, 05:48 PM
I just got home watching Michael Beasley score 30 pts and grab 17 rebounds in 25 minutes. Sorry, that doesn't help KU at all.

KCFalcon59
02-25-2007, 05:48 PM
The idiots on ESPN said there is no way KU will be a #1 seed. They also said K-State will not make the tourney, and T-Tech is a lock even though K-State has a 2 game lead on them in conference and overall record. I'll wait till the selections are made. These ESPN idiots just piss me off.

Buck
02-25-2007, 05:49 PM
No.

No what?

Mr. Laz
02-25-2007, 05:50 PM
mines bigger... :p
:fire:


http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/2856/jayhawkslogonf9.gif

CoMoChief
02-25-2007, 05:50 PM
I don't have the pleasure of being a fan of a top 10 team, but to me, it seems silly to care about NCAA Tourney seeding if you are going to be a 3 seed at worst.

It matters because they generally put the top 2 seeds in the region closest to their home for the first 2 rounds. If KU plays in Chicago it could really help them out. I think they played in Chicago in route to the 2003 National Championship and also played in STL. KU fans generally are well represented in the tourney, so this can only help.

Al Czervik
02-25-2007, 05:50 PM
I just got home watching Michael Beasley score 30 pts and grab 17 rebounds in 25 minutes. Sorry, that doesn't help KU at all.

Yep....that blackout really killed KU too......

Once Beasley comes on board, KU is toast.....

Skip Towne
02-25-2007, 05:52 PM
:KU:
Hey, III, where ya been?

chiefsfan987
02-25-2007, 05:54 PM
The idiots on ESPN said there is no way KU will be a #1 seed. They also said K-State will not make the tourney, and T-Tech is a lock even though K-State has a 2 game lead on them in conference and overall record. I'll wait till the selections are made. These ESPN idiots just piss me off.

I can see K-State missing out and Texas Tech making it. KSU only has one good win and their schedule was a cupcake schedule this year. The Big XII may only get 4 in and if they do, KSU is the odd man out because TT has better wins and beat the wildcats head to head at home.

Dr. Facebook Fever
02-25-2007, 05:54 PM
No what?
No it's not silly wanting a one seed instead of a two or three. It would be silly being happy with a lower seed if you can get a one.

Dr. Facebook Fever
02-25-2007, 05:55 PM
I just got home watching Michael Beasley score 30 pts and grab 17 rebounds in 25 minutes. Sorry, that doesn't help KU at all.
hater.

CoMoChief
02-25-2007, 05:59 PM
I just got home watching Michael Beasley score 30 pts and grab 17 rebounds in 25 minutes. Sorry, that doesn't help KU at all.

Ahhhhh!!!! YOU HIJACKER!!!! jk.

kstater
02-25-2007, 06:00 PM
I can see K-State missing out and Texas Tech making it. KSU only has one good win and their schedule was a cupcake schedule this year. The Big XII may only get 4 in and if they do, KSU is the odd man out because TT has better wins and beat the wildcats head to head at home.

So you're saying that a team that finishes in the top 4 of the BIG 12 conference(assuming State wins one of the next two and TTU wins out) doesn't get into the tourney? That's absurd. I don't care who the team is, but if you finish with 9 wins in conference play in a major conference, there shouldn't be any questions regarding strenghth of schedule.

chiefsfan987
02-25-2007, 06:03 PM
So you're saying that a team that finishes in the top 4 of the BIG 12 conference(assuming State wins one of the next two and TTU wins out) doesn't get into the tourney? That's absurd. I don't care who the team is, but if you finish with 9 wins in conference play in a major conference, there shouldn't be any questions regarding strenghth of schedule.


Colorado did it a few years ago and got left out. Teams get skipped over in coference all the time for at large bids. Personally, I am indifferent to whether the Wildcats make it or not. I'm just saying that I can see how it would happen to KSU in favor of TTU.

KCFalcon59
02-25-2007, 06:04 PM
I can see K-State missing out and Texas Tech making it. KSU only has one good win and their schedule was a cupcake schedule this year. The Big XII may only get 4 in and if they do, KSU is the odd man out because TT has better wins and beat the wildcats head to head at home.

This never happens unless a lesser team wins the conference tourney. I think these guys on ESPN are just ignorant. It makes no sense.

Saulbadguy
02-25-2007, 06:05 PM
Colorado did it a few years ago and got left out. Teams get skipped over in coference all the time for at large bids. Personally, I am indifferent to whether the Wildcats make it or not. I'm just saying that I can see how it would happen to KSU in favor of TTU.
I think it can happen too, although Colorado only won 18 games that season, and didn't win a game in the Big XII Tournament.

If KSU finishes 4th, they'd be at 20, 21 or 22 wins, and a possible 21,22, or 23rd win in OKC. Maybe more.

I don't see a Big XII team with 20+ wins and a 10-6 conference record not making the tournament, especially when your coach is Bob Huggins.

FWIW I think Tech gets in too.

Mr. Laz
02-25-2007, 06:06 PM
i don't a team with 10 wins in the big 12 and 22 wins would missed the tourney.

K-state wins 1 or 2 more games (including the big 12 tournament) and they are in.

Woodrow Call
02-25-2007, 06:07 PM
Right now no one is playing better than KU. IMO they should be a 1 seed.

BWillie
02-25-2007, 06:08 PM
If K-State gets 10 wins in conference, you'd have to mark them down for the tourney. Problem with K-State is they haven't beat anybody. If they won their second round game in the Big 12 tourney, that would put them in for sure. I think now you can make a case for KU being #1 seed now that UNC lost. KU's RPI still is dog shit, and the Big XI is down this year. The committee is going to take into account the fact we lost to DePaul & Oral Roberts, as well as not playing A&M and Texas twice. Here is the top 15 RPI. It doesn't look good for KU.

school W-L RPI SOS rk SOS Conf Conf W-L
1 UCLA 24-3 0.6824 5 0.6046 Pac10 14-2
2 Ohio St. 26-3 0.6607 27 0.5741 Big10 14-1
3 North Carolina 24-5 0.6576 6 0.6004 Acc 10-4
4 Southern Ill. 24-5 0.6451 37 0.5694 Mvc 15-3
5 Wisconsin 26-4 0.6451 45 0.5651 Big10 12-3
6 Pittsburgh 24-5 0.6436 12 0.5884 Bige 11-3
7 Florida 25-4 0.6392 51 0.5595 Sec 12-2
8 Memphis 25-3 0.6383 69 0.5489 Cusa 14-0
9 Duke 22-7 0.6383 3 0.6110 Acc 8-6
10 Kentucky 19-9 0.6340 2 0.6261 Sec 8-6

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11 Tennessee 20-9 0.6323 4 0.6081 Sec 8-6
12 UNLV 22-6 0.6306 35 0.5696 Mwest 10-4
13 Texas A&M 24-4 0.6295 57 0.5568 Big12 12-2
14 Arizona 17-9 0.6282 1 0.6370 Pac10 8-7
15 Kansas 25-4 0.6255 65 0.5523 Big12 12-2

Skip Towne
02-25-2007, 06:08 PM
So you're saying that a team that finishes in the top 4 of the BIG 12 conference(assuming State wins one of the next two and TTU wins out) doesn't get into the tourney? That's absurd. I don't care who the team is, but if you finish with 9 wins in conference play in a major conference, there shouldn't be any questions regarding strenghth of schedule.
It's because they know you stink.

KCFalcon59
02-25-2007, 06:10 PM
I think it can happen too, although Colorado only won 18 games that season, and didn't win a game in the Big XII Tournament.

If KSU finishes 4th, they'd be at 20, 21 or 22 wins, and a possible 21,22, or 23rd win in OKC. Maybe more.

I don't see a Big XII team with 20+ wins and a 10-6 conference record not making the tournament, especially when your coach is Bob Huggins.

FWIW I think Tech gets in too.

KSU had some bad early losses. I think they have played their way in to the tournament. They could have folded when they lost Walker, but they have made great strides this year.

Guru
02-25-2007, 06:13 PM
KSU had some bad early losses. I think they have played their way in to the tournament. They could have folded when they lost Walker, but they have made great strides this year.
Being the hawker you are, that must have hurt for you to say.

I think it is a joke that OSU is still considered an IN while KSU is still considered an OUT. KSU earned the right this year.

Mr. Laz
02-25-2007, 06:15 PM
Right now no one is playing better than KU. IMO they should be a 1 seed.
not gonna happen :shake:

Wisconsin and Ohio state are #1 seeds

you know how much wood they have North Carolina... :mad: :mad:


that means KU would have to leap frog UCLA and Florida


maybe Florida ... since we beat them earlier, but UCLA would have to go on a 3 game losing streak or something.

Skip Towne
02-25-2007, 06:16 PM
I think it can happen too, although Colorado only won 18 games that season, and didn't win a game in the Big XII Tournament.

If KSU finishes 4th, they'd be at 20, 21 or 22 wins, and a possible 21,22, or 23rd win in OKC. Maybe more.

I don't see a Big XII team with 20+ wins and a 10-6 conference record not making the tournament, especially when your coach is Bob Huggins.

FWIW I think Tech gets in too.
Yeah, they might keep you out because of Huggins. They should anyway.

KCFalcon59
02-25-2007, 06:21 PM
Being the hawker you are, that must have hurt for you to say.

I think it is a joke that OSU is still considered an IN while KSU is still considered an OUT. KSU earned the right this year.

OSU is out as far as I am concerned. If they were to make it, it would be a travesty. K-State has earned a spot. UNC lost tonight and I bet they still are ahead of KU. Same with Florida and Wisconsin.

CoMoChief
02-25-2007, 06:21 PM
especially when your coach is Bob Huggins.


ROFL

Sorry Saul I just had to laugh at that.

BWillie
02-25-2007, 06:22 PM
not gonna happen :shake:

Wisconsin and Ohio state are #1 seeds

you know how much wood they have North Carolina... :mad: :mad:


that means KU would have to leap frog UCLA and Florida


maybe Florida ... since we beat them earlier, but UCLA would have to go on a 3 game losing streak or something.

You are right Laz. It's going to be extremely difficult for us to get a #1 seed, even still. Right now we are #15 in RPI, while Texas A&M is #13. Big XII is even rated lower than the MVC in Conference RPI. Check these stats out. Here are the #1 seeds RPI's the last five years.

2006
Duke 1
Memphis 4
UCONN 3
Villanova 2

2005
Illinois 2
Washington 3
UNC 6
Duke 4

2004
Kentucky 2
St Joe 3
Duke 1
Stanford 7

2003
Kentucky 1
Arizona 2
Texas 4
Oklahoma 3

2002
Duke 4
Cincinnati 3
Maryland 2
Kansas 1

Notice that 3 of the past 5 years the top 1,2,3 and 4 teams in RPI were #1 seeds. If we are not in the top 10 in RPI, we have no shot, period. I can see Southern Illinois actually getting a #2 seed, and Texas A&M getting a #3 seed if they stumble against Texas.

CoMoChief
02-25-2007, 06:24 PM
If K-State gets 10 wins in conference, you'd have to mark them down for the tourney. Problem with K-State is they haven't beat anybody. If they won their second round game in the Big 12 tourney, that would put them in for sure. I think now you can make a case for KU being #1 seed now that UNC lost. KU's RPI still is dog shit, and the Big XI is down this year. The committee is going to take into account the fact we lost to DePaul & Oral Roberts, as well as not playing A&M and Texas twice. Here is the top 15 RPI. It doesn't look good for KU.

school W-L RPI SOS rk SOS Conf Conf W-L
1 UCLA 24-3 0.6824 5 0.6046 Pac10 14-2
2 Ohio St. 26-3 0.6607 27 0.5741 Big10 14-1
3 North Carolina 24-5 0.6576 6 0.6004 Acc 10-4
4 Southern Ill. 24-5 0.6451 37 0.5694 Mvc 15-3
5 Wisconsin 26-4 0.6451 45 0.5651 Big10 12-3
6 Pittsburgh 24-5 0.6436 12 0.5884 Bige 11-3
7 Florida 25-4 0.6392 51 0.5595 Sec 12-2
8 Memphis 25-3 0.6383 69 0.5489 Cusa 14-0
9 Duke 22-7 0.6383 3 0.6110 Acc 8-6
10 Kentucky 19-9 0.6340 2 0.6261 Sec 8-6

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11 Tennessee 20-9 0.6323 4 0.6081 Sec 8-6
12 UNLV 22-6 0.6306 35 0.5696 Mwest 10-4
13 Texas A&M 24-4 0.6295 57 0.5568 Big12 12-2
14 Arizona 17-9 0.6282 1 0.6370 Pac10 8-7
15 Kansas 25-4 0.6255 65 0.5523 Big12 12-2

Like I said KU will need some help. Some of the other top 5 teams are going to have to lose another game. That will happen too IMO. I also dont think the RPI will matter that much if KU happens to win out and win the conference tourney.

Reerun_KC
02-25-2007, 06:27 PM
ROFL

Sorry Saul I just had to laugh at that.

Dude there is nothing funny about having Huggins as the coach of your basketball program...

It is actually embarassing and shameful that any program would stoop low enough to actually hire a guy of that character.

CoMoChief
02-25-2007, 06:30 PM
not gonna happen :shake:

Wisconsin and Ohio state are #1 seeds

you know how much wood they have North Carolina... :mad: :mad:


that means KU would have to leap frog UCLA and Florida


maybe Florida ... since we beat them earlier, but UCLA would have to go on a 3 game losing streak or something.

You never know. UNC just lost today on the road against an unranked team and they still have to play at GTech and then Duke. UNC could lose one of those games and then they have the ACC Tournament which I don't think they will win.

Skip Towne
02-25-2007, 06:34 PM
Dude there is nothing funny about having Huggins as the coach of your basketball program...

It is actually embarassing and shameful that any program would stoop low enough to actually hire a guy of that character.
The guy is a blight on the entire NCAA. Saul acts like they won the lottery to hire him. Actually he sat for 7 months and nobody would touch him.

BWillie
02-25-2007, 06:36 PM
Like I said KU will need some help. Some of the other top 5 teams are going to have to lose another game. That will happen too IMO. I also dont think the RPI will matter that much if KU happens to win out and win the conference tourney.

I disagree. RPI always matters like it or not. Of course our RPI is bound to go up by beating OU, Texas, and two wins in the tourney. Keep in mind, the championship game doesn't count. I don't think beating the snot out of OU and whatever crappy team in the second round of the Big XII tourney is going to raise the RPI that much.

Here are years 2001-1999 top seeds.

2001
Duke 1
Stanford 2
Michigan State 3
Illinois 6

2000
Arizona 3
Michigan State 13 10-6 ten wins against top 50
Duke 2
Stanford 6

1999
Duke 1
Michigan State 2
Auburn 6
UCONN 3

As you can see, no team since since 1999 has gotten a #1 seed with a worse RPI than #7 EXCEPT for Michigan State. That year they played 16 teams in the Top 50. That is simply one amazing schedule. They were 10-6 against Top 50 teams. KU 4-2 against the top 50 teams...

CoMoChief
02-25-2007, 06:40 PM
Dude there is nothing funny about having Huggins as the coach of your basketball program...

It is actually embarassing and shameful that any program would stoop low enough to actually hire a guy of that character.


It's just funny because (even though I know or at least hope Saul was joking) he referred to the NCAA putting KSU in the dance because Huggins is their coach.

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
02-25-2007, 06:44 PM
Yep....that blackout really killed KU too......

Once Beasley comes on board, KU is toast.....



Yeah KU will have no players the caliber of KSU then.


:rolleyes:

Saulbadguy
02-25-2007, 06:45 PM
It's just funny because (even though I know or at least hope Saul was joking) he referred to the NCAA putting KSU in the dance because Huggins is their coach.
Well, his tourney record is only slightly better than Bill Selfs.

the Talking Can
02-25-2007, 06:45 PM
wrong thread...but Nicole Kidman is hotter THAN HELL

god damn

Ari Chi3fs
02-25-2007, 06:46 PM
personally, Id rather KU be a #2 seed. Less mental anxiety for the players and us hopeful dumbass fans.

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
02-25-2007, 06:50 PM
not gonna happen :shake:

Wisconsin and Ohio state are #1 seeds

you know how much wood they have North Carolina... :mad: :mad:


that means KU would have to leap frog UCLA and Florida


maybe Florida ... since we beat them earlier, but UCLA would have to go on a 3 game losing streak or something.


Wisconsin will not get a #1 seed with losing 2 games in one week. I think KU is in great shape for a #1 now. Win out and GET to the championship game of the tourney and they are almost assured of it.

CoMoChief
02-25-2007, 06:51 PM
Well, his tourney record is only slightly better than Bill Selfs.


Hell then that alone makes an argument for KSU.

Skip Towne
02-25-2007, 06:54 PM
Well, his tourney record is only slightly better than Bill Selfs.
And Cincy was so impressed they ran him out of town. He is a white Nolan Richardson and they were both successful coaches (W's and L's). And they were both fired for the same reasons. Richardson had a slightly better tourney record than Huggins though. He won a NC.

Mr. Laz
02-25-2007, 07:09 PM
Wisconsin will not get a #1 seed with losing 2 games in one week. I think KU is in great shape for a #1 now. Win out and GET to the championship game of the tourney and they are almost assured of it.
only chance i see for it is if Texas gets hot and shoots up the rankings.

you know they are anxious to move Texas up because of Durant.

Texas beats A&M next week ... it will help their ranking more than it hurts the aggies. Then when KU plays Texas in the final week it will help their RPI more.

then it would help for KU,Texas and A&M to play each other again in the tourney. But somebody will still have to lose ..... depends whether the wins to each other help the ranking more than the loses.

beating A&M in the tourney would help.

ROYC75
02-25-2007, 07:19 PM
beating A&M in the tourney would help.


The # 1 seeds will have already be determined by that time, it always is. That's the reason Roy Williams wanted Big 12 championship game for a Saturday and not a Sunday.

Skip Towne
02-25-2007, 07:54 PM
Sometimes the #2 seed has an easier road than the #1 seed. After the first round the #1 gets the 8-9 winner and the #2 gets the 7-10. So the #2 gets the 15 then as low as the 10 (while #1 is facing 8-9) then it gets even better for the #2. I think KU will do OK no matter who they play.

ROYC75
02-25-2007, 08:04 PM
I see them as a FF team, with the way they are playing, who knows from there.

To any of you haters out there, a case of beer we don't fall 1st round this year, I'll even go 2nd round for that matter.

Takers ?

BWillie
02-25-2007, 08:18 PM
The # 1 seeds will have already be determined by that time, it always is. That's the reason Roy Williams wanted Big 12 championship game for a Saturday and not a Sunday.

Yeah, unless A&M loses to Missouri there is no way KU and A&M can play in a meaningful game. I also think it's complete BS that the Big 12 doesn't play the championship game earlier. The Big 12 even knows it doesn't matter, yet they don't care. If they would play it at 11 AM instead of 2 PM it WOULD matter. Some coach needs to make a statement, and just play third string reserves in that game. There is absolutely no use in playing your starters in a game that serves no value. And this is coming from a guy who is going to be at that game.

Last year, if that championship game would of mattered we would of been a #3 seed instead of a #4 seed and wouldn't have had to face giant killer Bradley in the first round. It's not the NCAA Selection Committee's fault, it's the Big 12's fault for not scheduling earlier in the day.

Skip Towne
02-25-2007, 08:37 PM
Yeah, unless A&M loses to Missouri there is no way KU and A&M can play in a meaningful game. I also think it's complete BS that the Big 12 doesn't play the championship game earlier. The Big 12 even knows it doesn't matter, yet they don't care. If they would play it at 11 AM instead of 2 PM it WOULD matter. Some coach needs to make a statement, and just play third string reserves in that game. There is absolutely no use in playing your starters in a game that serves no value. And this is coming from a guy who is going to be at that game.

Last year, if that championship game would of mattered we would of been a #3 seed instead of a #4 seed and wouldn't have had to face giant killer Bradley in the first round. It's not the NCAA Selection Committee's fault, it's the Big 12's fault for not scheduling earlier in the day.
That's right and it has been that way for a hell of a long time. It's not like it just happened yesterday. They have had time to correct it.

SithCeNtZ
02-25-2007, 08:43 PM
I just got home watching Michael Beasley score 30 pts and grab 17 rebounds in 25 minutes. Sorry, that doesn't help KU at all.

It will in future seasons. The fact is that KU creaming the north by 20 points a game does nothing to help their schedule strength nor does it help the perception that the big 12 is terrible. KU needs someone to be good in the north to bring some positive pub to the league. Might as well be KSU so that we can have a rivarly worth talking about, not the joke that it is now.

Saulbadguy
02-25-2007, 08:45 PM
It will in future seasons. The fact is that KU creaming the north by 20 points a game does nothing to help their schedule strength nor does it help the perception that the big 12 is terrible. KU needs someone to be good in the north to bring some positive pub to the league. Might as well be KSU so that we can have a rivarly worth talking about, not the joke that it is now.
The north is gonna get strong. Not just K-State but MU, ISU, and NU seem to have promising futures. The top will be K-State and KU though, if you look at incoming talent.

Skip Towne
02-25-2007, 09:15 PM
I see them as a FF team, with the way they are playing, who knows from there.

To any of you haters out there, a case of beer we don't fall 1st round this year, I'll even go 2nd round for that matter.

Takers ?
Roy, you are a brave man.

Guru
02-25-2007, 09:29 PM
Damnit Roy. Here comes the first round loss again.

Sully
02-25-2007, 09:31 PM
Just read that Teahen from Rockhurst is walking on at KU.

ROYC75
02-25-2007, 09:32 PM
Damnit Roy. Here comes the first round loss again.


Not this year, these kids should be really focused by then, they are peaking at the right time.BTA, they were last year too but were very young.

chiefbowe82
02-25-2007, 09:40 PM
Back to the subject of this topic "helping out ku"
I really don't see how ku wouldn't get a #1 seed they have beat all the good teams with the exception of the Texas A&M game. They beat Flordia on a neutral court. They only have 4 loses and just 2 loses in the BIG 12 a conference full of talent. The selection committee usually bases seeding on how teams have played at the end of the season and just to look at ku's wins.
Wed, Feb 7 Kansas St. W 97-70
Sat, Feb 10 at Missouri W 92-74
Wed, Feb 14 at Colorado W 75-46
Sat, Feb 17 Nebraska W 92-39
Mon, Feb 19 at Kansas St. W 71-62
Sat, Feb 24 Iowa St. W 89-52
The last 6 games have been comanding wins and with two games to go they face tough opponets Oklahoma and Texas for a chance to boost the resume even more.
While if you look at Wisconsin who has lost two straight should pretty well be out of the bidding of a #1 seed.
Florida has droppeed a couple games as of late.
North Caroloina fell to unranked Maryland today.

When the news Top 25 rankings come out it will be nice to see where the teams line-up and if KU can get the wins over OK and Texas and just do their thing they should end up with the #1 seed.

Kansas State on the other hand should get into the tourney.
I would find it a complete tragedy if they didn't get in they have a nice win on the road vs Texas an impressive big 12 conference record and 20+ wins overall. So if they can do some damage in the tourney and make there presents felt a little bit I have no dought they are IN.
They will have to win atleast 1 of the next 2 though and get a win or two in the big 12 tourney to secure it.
Just as ku needs to do the wildcats need to set aside the bidding and simply win games.

CoMoChief
02-25-2007, 11:10 PM
The north is gonna get strong. Not just K-State but MU, ISU, and NU seem to have promising futures. The top will be K-State and KU though, if you look at incoming talent.


MU wont amount to shit. Anderson wont be able to compete in recruiting with Huggy and Self, etc.

CoMoChief
02-25-2007, 11:11 PM
Just read that Teahen from Rockhurst is walking on at KU.

He sucks.

BWillie
02-25-2007, 11:18 PM
He sucks.

Oh come on, you have to have the token white guys that sit the bench. Like Brechard and Weatherspoon. Morningstar however might see significant playing time someday. Needs to hit the weight room though. Still, I'm kind of sick of us bringing in so many guards. We are going to need a 3 really really bad if Rush is bye bye. Next year if there is no Rush we are gonna have to rely on Rodrick as a starter or shove Julian over..

hawkchief
02-25-2007, 11:23 PM
I just got home watching Michael Beasley score 30 pts and grab 17 rebounds in 25 minutes. Sorry, that doesn't help KU at all.

Gee, it must suck when your alma mater is so bad that you are forced to watch high school basketball games for enjoyment during the peak of college hoops season. As KU fans, we prefer to watch college games, and watch top college players play this time of year. FWIW, Cole Aldrich also scored 30 points in a game this week, AND KU is close to grabbing a 1 seed in the NCAA tournament.

How's Beasley's high school team looking for a state title? Maybe you KSUcks guys can hang his HS banner in Allen Fieldhouse - West (aka Bramlage), while we hang up another Big XII and NCAA banner in AF East in Lawrence.

Glad Beasley will be around for The Streaks' Silver Anniversary next year - 25 wins in a row at Bramlage. That will be fun!

jcman1224
02-25-2007, 11:27 PM
If Rush and Arthur leave this will be our lineup,

Kaun
Wright
Collins
Robinson
Chalmers

Bench:
Rod
Aldrich
Jackson

Ain't half bad. Three guard lineups are very successful in college basketball. That said, I'm really excited for THIS YEAR.

CoMoChief
02-25-2007, 11:41 PM
If Rush and Arthur leave this will be our lineup,

Kaun
Wright
Collins
Robinson
Chalmers

Bench:
Rod
Aldrich
Jackson

Ain't half bad. Three guard lineups are very successful in college basketball. That said, I'm really excited for THIS YEAR.


I dont think anyone will leave after this season unless we win it all.

DJay23
02-26-2007, 06:37 AM
Glad Beasley will be around for The Streaks' Silver Anniversary next year - 25 wins in a row at Bramlage. That will be fun!
Not to defend the purple pussies, but Bramlage has only been open for 19 years. NExt year will be the 20th in a row in Bramlage, 25 in a row overall in Manhattan (we closed out Ahearn with 5 in a row).

DJay23
02-26-2007, 06:38 AM
If Rush and Arthur leave this will be our lineup,

Kaun
Wright
Collins
Robinson
Chalmers

Bench:
Rod
Aldrich
Jackson

Ain't half bad. Three guard lineups are very successful in college basketball. That said, I'm really excited for THIS YEAR.
Arthur's not leaving, and if he does he's stupid. Rush for that matter probably wouldn't be drafted either based on his streakiness.

Saulbadguy
02-26-2007, 06:39 AM
Gee, it must suck when your alma mater is so bad that you are forced to watch high school basketball games for enjoyment during the peak of college hoops season. As KU fans, we prefer to watch college games, and watch top college players play this time of year. FWIW, Cole Aldrich also scored 30 points in a game this week, AND KU is close to grabbing a 1 seed in the NCAA tournament.

How's Beasley's high school team looking for a state title? Maybe you KSUcks guys can hang his HS banner in Allen Fieldhouse - West (aka Bramlage), while we hang up another Big XII and NCAA banner in AF East in Lawrence.

Glad Beasley will be around for The Streaks' Silver Anniversary next year - 25 wins in a row at Bramlage. That will be fun!
He doesn't belong to a high school team really. It is a prep team. I will start a thread about it, and give you a full review of what I saw yesterday.

acesn8s
02-26-2007, 10:44 AM
What time does the new polls (AP & USA Today) post?

CoMoChief
02-26-2007, 12:19 PM
KU is ranked #3 in USA Today poll. Unfortunately that poll amounts to dogshit.

Saulbadguy
02-26-2007, 12:20 PM
KU is ranked #3 in USA Today poll. Unfortunately that poll amounts to dogshit.
Just like Sasha Kaun.

leviw
02-26-2007, 12:35 PM
KU is ranked #3 in USA Today poll. Unfortunately that poll amounts to dogshit.

No. 3 in both polls.

CoMoChief
02-26-2007, 12:36 PM
Just like Sasha Kaun.

Sasha Kaun is dogshit. Thanks for reminding me Saul. :)

Lzen
02-26-2007, 02:42 PM
I dont think anyone will leave after this season unless we win it all.


If any leaves early, I think it will be Rush. I don't even know why Arthur would be in the discussion. Yeah, he's an impressive freshman, but not ready for the NBA, IMO. Collins is another possibility, I suppose. But like you, I believe that nobody will leave early if they don't win it all.

acesn8s
02-26-2007, 03:23 PM
If any leaves early, I think it will be Rush. I don't even know why Arthur would be in the discussion. Yeah, he's an impressive freshman, but not ready for the NBA, IMO. Collins is another possibility, I suppose. But like you, I believe that nobody will leave early if they don't win it all.Do you think Rush learned from his brothers' mistakes?

Mr. Laz
02-26-2007, 03:27 PM
i was shocked by the Hawks jump to #3 ... maybe they do have a chance.

i still think a 1 seed is a long shot due to the low RPI and the coastal bias.



i don't think Rush is turning pro .... he still doesn't handle the ball that well.

next year will be complete devastation though

Rush,Wright,Collins,Arthur,Kaun,Robinson,jackson will all be gone ... maybe Chalmers too.


case and stewart as well

Lzen
02-26-2007, 03:28 PM
Do you think Rush learned from his brothers' mistakes?

I hope so. Personally, I think Rush has all the tools, but he's still not completely ready for the NBA. He is inconsistent. At times, he needs to take over and become leader and be the guy. He still doesn't always seem to want that responsibility. Hell, Collins fits that mold more than Rush.

chiefqueen
02-26-2007, 04:14 PM
It matters because they generally put the top 2 seeds in the region closest to their home for the first 2 rounds. If KU plays in Chicago it could really help them out. I think they played in Chicago in route to the 2003 National Championship and also played in STL. KU fans generally are well represented in the tourney, so this can only help.

That only works if U of Ill isn't the 7 seed in KU's region, and I saw a couple of bracket projections over the weekend showing the Illini as the #7 seed in KU's region (with KU a 2 seed).