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Scaga
02-28-2007, 12:45 PM
Who you got?
Maybe it's the Jayhawks homer in me....but I'm picking Texas.

kepp
02-28-2007, 12:50 PM
Who you got?
Maybe it's the Jayhawks homer in me....but I'm picking Texas.
Any injuries? If they both have their full complement of players I'd go with A&M. Although Durant could explode at any time.

Rooster
02-28-2007, 12:57 PM
It should be a great one. Being a Hawks fan I guess it is in my best interest for TX to win.

CoMoChief
02-28-2007, 12:58 PM
Is it in Austin or College Station? If it's at Austin I see TX winning, however if it's in College Station A&M will win.

I hope Texas wins regardless. KU would be solely in 1st place in the conference and would win it outright with a win against Texas. It would help KU's RPI if Texas won tonite also if KU won on Saturday.

Go Horns.

Scaga
02-28-2007, 01:05 PM
In Austin I believe...

noa
02-28-2007, 01:11 PM
I'm looking forward to this game. Should be a good one. I think A&M has the edge even though they are playing in Austin. A&M has the more experienced team and that's going to help in a high profile matchup like this one. Even though Texas has the best player in Durant, A&M isn't far behind with Acie Law.

Braincase
02-28-2007, 02:17 PM
Even Mangino is a Texas fan tonight.

CoMoChief
02-28-2007, 04:27 PM
I am a HUGE Kevin Durant fan tonite.

chiefsfan987
02-28-2007, 05:58 PM
Who you got?
Maybe it's the Jayhawks homer in me....but I'm picking Texas.


Gotta root for the Horns even though I think A&M is the better team. It'd be nice to start celebrating at least a co-championship this evening.

Archie F. Swin
02-28-2007, 06:08 PM
when do they tip?

kstater
02-28-2007, 06:13 PM
Texas, might bump State's RPI

chiefsfan987
02-28-2007, 06:15 PM
when do they tip?

9pm eastern - 6pm pacific. I'm pretty sure its on espn or espn2 as well.

CoMoChief
02-28-2007, 07:04 PM
Tipoff now ....anyone confirm? Im at work.

Direckshun
02-28-2007, 07:10 PM
This is dynamite offense right now. 11-10 A&M off a tip-in.

Still 16:10 left in the first.

chiefsfan987
02-28-2007, 07:11 PM
Tipoff now ....anyone confirm? Im at work.


yup, its in progress 11-11

chiefsfan987
02-28-2007, 07:20 PM
Woo hoo! that 3 was needed.

chiefsfan987
02-28-2007, 07:20 PM
Man, Texas isn't rebounding worth a ****.

Direckshun
02-28-2007, 07:22 PM
11:03 left in the first half, the game hasn't slowed down one bit, and the atmosphere is electric.

Both teams are missing shots and committing turnovers, though.

A&M's ball after the time-out, leading 19-16.

CoMoChief
02-28-2007, 07:23 PM
No college basketball thread would be complete without a post about how much Sasha Kaun sucks.

chiefsfan987
02-28-2007, 07:29 PM
I wonder if OSU would have suspended Bogan if they weren't playing Baylor on Saturday. Does it even count as a one game suspension if its against the Bears?

Lzen
02-28-2007, 07:34 PM
I'm pulling for the Longhorns. However, A&M is very good team. It's gonna be tough for Texas to pull this one out, despite the fact that they're at home.

Direckshun
02-28-2007, 07:40 PM
A&M slaughtering Texas on the boards and in the paint. But Texas is shooting the lights out.

This is my first full game watching Durant and that kid is phenomenal.

A&M's got a couple foul shots on the way with 5:09 left to go. Texas winning 29-28.

CoMoChief
02-28-2007, 07:49 PM
Carmelo or Durant

Whos the better Frosh?

chiefsfan987
02-28-2007, 07:53 PM
Texas with a 7 point halftime lead. Sweet!

Direckshun
02-28-2007, 07:53 PM
Well how about that, turns out that rebounding makes you play better!

As the half closes down, Texas finds a way to hold their own on the boards. A&M doesn't get as many second chances, and Texas continues scoring.

Halftime: 43-36, Texas.

Lzen
02-28-2007, 07:58 PM
Carmelo or Durant

Whos the better Frosh?

Unless Durant wins a title, the argument will always be made that Melo is better because he got a ring. Still, I think Durant is better. That kid is incredible.

Lzen
02-28-2007, 08:01 PM
Wow, it was tied at 31 when I went away for a little while. I come back and Texas is ahead 7 at the half. C'mon Longhorns, put them away in the 2nd half.

HemiEd
02-28-2007, 08:16 PM
Is this Durant the best College BB player ever?

Direckshun
02-28-2007, 08:21 PM
Well A&M is inching their way back into the game, but at this point Texas is shooting over 50% from the field.

And this is without a major inside presense. A&M still controls the paint, still beats Texas on the boards, but it's not as one-sided now.

Texas still has the ability to put them away, but A&M's not going down easy.

Two free throws coming for A&M with 15:36 to go. Texas up, 50-43.

chiefsfan987
02-28-2007, 08:23 PM
Texas is puttering out.

chiefsfan987
02-28-2007, 08:24 PM
I think Durant is forcing it inside too much. There's nothing there and he keeps forcing it.

Lzen
02-28-2007, 08:28 PM
Is this Durant the best College BB player ever?

Best freshman ever, for sure.

chiefsfan987
02-28-2007, 08:29 PM
A&M is on fire.

Direckshun
02-28-2007, 08:29 PM
Just like that, and Texas has turned into a pumpkin.

Can't hit shots. Can't hit free throws. Still getting owned on the boards. And A&M's Carter and Law are on fire.

57-55, A&M. 11:21 left.

chiefsfan987
02-28-2007, 08:34 PM
Texas is going to have to start hitting mid-range jump shots or from the perimeter because there is nothing inside. A&M's defense in the paint is tough.

Lzen
02-28-2007, 08:56 PM
73-72 Texas with 1:20 to go.

Silock
02-28-2007, 08:57 PM
Man... Texas needs to pull this one out.

Silock
02-28-2007, 08:58 PM
How do you not rotate around to guard that? Stupid.

chiefsfan987
02-28-2007, 08:59 PM
This one's going down to the buzzer....

KCFalcon59
02-28-2007, 08:59 PM
Wow!!

Bearcat
02-28-2007, 08:59 PM
He really is that good.

Ultra Peanut
02-28-2007, 09:00 PM
Dueling triples.

Their rendition of Kernkraft 400 pales in comparison to Gonzaga's Kennel Club, though.

Hang on, Horns...

Silock
02-28-2007, 09:06 PM
How to waste a shitload of time, starring Texas A&M.

HemiEd
02-28-2007, 09:07 PM
Best freshman ever, for sure.

I agree, wow.

Ultra Peanut
02-28-2007, 09:10 PM
Holy shit.

Lzen
02-28-2007, 09:10 PM
When have you ever seen such a clutch player as Law? :banghead:

Silock
02-28-2007, 09:10 PM
I'm so glad Acie Law is a senior.

Good god.

chiefsfan987
02-28-2007, 09:10 PM
I just knew that was coming. Why in the world didn't they foul on the in bounds?

KCFalcon59
02-28-2007, 09:10 PM
That is unbelievable.

Bearcat
02-28-2007, 09:10 PM
Push him down, son.

chiefsfan987
02-28-2007, 09:12 PM
That wasn't a smart play. If that sails out of bounds A&M has the ball under their own basket with 1.4 to play.

HemiEd
02-28-2007, 09:12 PM
Holy shit, it is past my bedtime.

ArrowheadHawk
02-28-2007, 09:12 PM
how f'n lucky can one guy be??

Al Czervik
02-28-2007, 09:12 PM
That wasn't a smart play. If that sails out of bounds A&M has the ball under their own basket with 1.4 to play.


Man, this is A&M's year.....Law is nails....

chiefsfan987
02-28-2007, 09:13 PM
Well Texas had their chance and blew it. Lets hope they get a second one.

Ultra Peanut
02-28-2007, 09:15 PM
RUN THE WEAVE MEADOWLARK RUN THE WEAVE

Al Czervik
02-28-2007, 09:15 PM
Well Texas had their chance and blew it. Lets hope they get a second one.

Jones fouling out is a good start!

Lzen
02-28-2007, 09:17 PM
Is AM running out of gas in the OT?

Ultra Peanut
02-28-2007, 09:17 PM
"I want you to hit Law as hard as you can!"

http://imgred.com/http://www.hoophall.com/halloffamers/img/chaney.jpg

Al Czervik
02-28-2007, 09:21 PM
Give UT credit.....they are hitting their FT's

Silock
02-28-2007, 09:22 PM
Things starting to swing Texas' way...

And then ****ing Kavalaiuhglajshdou hits a three. WTF?

Lzen
02-28-2007, 09:22 PM
Damn, every time Texas looks to be pulling away, AM pulls something out of their ass. KavasomethingRussian just hit a 3 to bring them within 4.

the Talking Can
02-28-2007, 09:23 PM
Acie Law is a pure ****ing killer.

But Texas is going to be a nasty team in the tournament with Durant and Augustine.

Ultra Peanut
02-28-2007, 09:23 PM
I wanna rock!

ROCK!

Skip Towne
02-28-2007, 09:24 PM
Who won?

Ultra Peanut
02-28-2007, 09:25 PM
Un****ingbelievable.

Lzen
02-28-2007, 09:25 PM
Wow, that took a long to time to get the foul called. WTF?

Silock
02-28-2007, 09:25 PM
WTF was with that trap play? He had a wide open pass at the top of the key, but didn't take it.

Ultra Peanut
02-28-2007, 09:26 PM
Who won?Cal Poly-San Luis Obispo

Lzen
02-28-2007, 09:26 PM
UT with the 3 point lead again. Here comes Law.

Ultra Peanut
02-28-2007, 09:26 PM
THAT MOTHER****ER

SPchief
02-28-2007, 09:26 PM
:eek:

Silock
02-28-2007, 09:26 PM
WHAT THE MOTHER****?!

ACIE LAW.

the Talking Can
02-28-2007, 09:26 PM
LAW IS INSANE

Ultra Peanut
02-28-2007, 09:27 PM
Uggggh another ****ing OT

Lzen
02-28-2007, 09:27 PM
Why no timeout, Texas?

Bearcat
02-28-2007, 09:28 PM
How does he not make that... :banghead:

Silock
02-28-2007, 09:28 PM
Anyone else think Law has sold his soul to the Devil?

HemiEd
02-28-2007, 09:28 PM
****

chiefsfan987
02-28-2007, 09:29 PM
How to completely implode in the final seconds of the game by Texas.... They've had this game wrapped up twice and didn't finish it. I'm not liking their odds of getting a third shot at it.

Lzen
02-28-2007, 09:29 PM
Anyone else think Law has sold his soul to the Devil?

ROFL

chiefsfan987
02-28-2007, 09:30 PM
Why no timeout, Texas?


Thats what I want to know.

Al Czervik
02-28-2007, 09:30 PM
Its a shame someone has to lose this game....

the Talking Can
02-28-2007, 09:30 PM
I now worship at the Church of Acie Law.

Lzen
02-28-2007, 09:31 PM
How to completely implode in the final seconds of the game by Texas.... They've had this game wrapped up twice and didn't finish it. I'm not liking their odds of getting a third shot at it.
They are like KU last year. Freshmen and sophomores.

Silock
02-28-2007, 09:31 PM
ROFL

Seriously... how else can you explain it?

Ultra Peanut
02-28-2007, 09:31 PM
If it had been the last ten seconds, he would have drilled it.

Ultra Peanut
02-28-2007, 09:32 PM
WHAT

Silock
02-28-2007, 09:32 PM
Kavalauskus.

This is like ****ing DESTINY or something.

the Talking Can
02-28-2007, 09:33 PM
KAVAFALAPOLIS FOR 3!

SPchief
02-28-2007, 09:33 PM
wow

Silock
02-28-2007, 09:33 PM
WHAT
WHAT

WHAT

WHAT

WHAT

WHAT

WHAT

WHAT

:banghead:

HemiEd
02-28-2007, 09:33 PM
KavasomethingRussian again! :cuss:

the Talking Can
02-28-2007, 09:34 PM
KAVAFALOPIAN LOVES SABONIS!

Lzen
02-28-2007, 09:35 PM
Does that Russian big dude normally make 3s? Or is AM just really freakin' lucky?

Ultra Peanut
02-28-2007, 09:36 PM
Rick Barnes is all, "**** THIS GAME THE COMPUTER CHEATS."

SPchief
02-28-2007, 09:36 PM
wtf

Silock
02-28-2007, 09:36 PM
Rick Barnes is all, "**** THIS GAME THE COMPUTER CHEATS."
ROFL

chiefsfan987
02-28-2007, 09:37 PM
Oh yeah, lets throw the ball to nobody. Nice work Texas, keep it up.

Lzen
02-28-2007, 09:37 PM
Rick Barnes is all, "**** THIS GAME THE COMPUTER CHEATS."

:LOL: I know exactly what you mean.

Lzen
02-28-2007, 09:37 PM
Texas just doesn't want to win this. Uggh.

Bearcat
02-28-2007, 09:37 PM
Reason #74 the Big 12 Tournament shouldn't ever be played in Texas again: The sound of 4 people chanting airball.. airball... airball.

Al Czervik
02-28-2007, 09:39 PM
Cue in Law, driving to the hole for 2....

chiefsfan987
02-28-2007, 09:39 PM
Screw it. I say foul them here and give yourself the final shot instead of letting them put up a three.

Silock
02-28-2007, 09:39 PM
Let's see if they can close it out THIS time.

Ultra Peanut
02-28-2007, 09:39 PM
TAKE THAT CHEATER AI

the Talking Can
02-28-2007, 09:39 PM
3rd times a stinker

Lzen
02-28-2007, 09:39 PM
Law got his shot blocked that time!! w00t!

Al Czervik
02-28-2007, 09:39 PM
Nice block....Now, make the throws the thats game

Bearcat
02-28-2007, 09:40 PM
Ugh...

Lzen
02-28-2007, 09:40 PM
TAKE THAT CHEATER AI

Cheating AI just caused Durant to miss his first FT. :banghead:

Silock
02-28-2007, 09:40 PM
You've got to be kidding me.

Ultra Peanut
02-28-2007, 09:40 PM
Gee, I wonder what's going to happen here!

chiefsfan987
02-28-2007, 09:41 PM
FOUL THEM before they get to half court!!!!!!!!

Lzen
02-28-2007, 09:41 PM
Cheating AI just caused Durant to miss his first FT. :banghead:

Which, btw, gives Law another chance to tie with a 3.
:deevee:

ArrowheadHawk
02-28-2007, 09:41 PM
law for 3????

Lzen
02-28-2007, 09:42 PM
law for 3????

Way to go out on a limb there.

Silock
02-28-2007, 09:42 PM
Forgetting that you're able to run the baseline after a made shot = boneheaded

Al Czervik
02-28-2007, 09:43 PM
I aint saying shioot now.....

chiefsfan987
02-28-2007, 09:43 PM
Almost threw it away again. They are having a terrible time getting it in play.

Lzen
02-28-2007, 09:44 PM
Sheesh, half the Aggies have fouled out. Law is still in, unfortunately.

Silock
02-28-2007, 09:44 PM
Best freshman ever.

Silock
02-28-2007, 09:44 PM
Should have been a T.

Ultra Peanut
02-28-2007, 09:44 PM
I just had an awful flashback...

Guru
02-28-2007, 09:45 PM
damn

Al Czervik
02-28-2007, 09:45 PM
Franklin and Frachilla are douches......

Lzen
02-28-2007, 09:45 PM
Screw you, Gillespie. You don't deserve an intentional foul. You got away with that very same thing a few weeks ago.

Silock
02-28-2007, 09:45 PM
wow... Texas wins

Ultra Peanut
02-28-2007, 09:46 PM
IT IS

FINISHED

Bearcat
02-28-2007, 09:46 PM
Thank you, Texas.

Al Czervik
02-28-2007, 09:46 PM
Wow....what a game....Congrats UT....and Thanks

Ultra Peanut
02-28-2007, 09:47 PM
You know, I wanted Texas to win to help our seeding, but I kind of wanted to see another TAMU miracle just to make the game even more retarded.

Skip Towne
02-28-2007, 09:47 PM
They are like KU last year. Freshmen and sophomores.
KU is still Fr. and soph's. Only Kaun and RussRob are juniors among the starters. Arthur, Collins, Chalmers, Rush, and Wright are fr and so.

Silock
02-28-2007, 09:47 PM
Screw you, Gillespie. You don't deserve an intentional foul. You got away with that very same thing a few weeks ago.

Gotta agree there.

ArrowheadHawk
02-28-2007, 09:47 PM
wow hopefully texas is a little tired for the game on Saturday....Will there be championship trophies waiting in Lawrence in case they win the conference like there was last year in Austin

Silock
02-28-2007, 09:47 PM
wow hopefully texas is a little tired for the game on Saturday....Will there be championship trophies waiting in Lawrence in case they win the conference like there was last year in Austin

I hope not. That's bad karma right there.

Guru
02-28-2007, 09:47 PM
back in sole possession of first again.

Lzen
02-28-2007, 09:47 PM
It should not have taken 2 OTs to decide this contest. Congrats, Texas. Now get ready to get pummeled on Saturday. :D

chiefsfan987
02-28-2007, 09:48 PM
They got lucky. I'll take it though...

KU Big XII co-champs!

ArrowheadHawk
02-28-2007, 09:48 PM
They got lucky. I'll take it though...

KU Big XII co-champs!
hopefully we will erase the co part on saturday

chiefsfan987
02-28-2007, 09:49 PM
It should not have taken 2 OTs to decide this contest. Congrats, Texas. Now get ready to get pummeled on Saturday. :D

Jayhawks better win that game or they'll finish as the third best team in the conference and #3 seed in the Big XII tournament.

Ari Chi3fs
02-28-2007, 09:50 PM
Acie Law IV is amazing. That dude has icicles in his veins.

I watched that game from start to finish and it was one of the best games I have ever seen. Unreal.

KevB
02-28-2007, 09:51 PM
Haven't read the whole thread, but watched the game. What a classic. Acie Law is flat out ridiculous. So savvy. The quick free throw was genious. KU is going to have their hands full with Texas. They're playing much better now that they're not completely dependent on Durant. There's three teams in the Big 12 that could do some damage in the tourney.

Lzen
02-28-2007, 09:51 PM
KU is still Fr. and soph's. Only Kaun and RussRob are juniors among the starters. Arthur, Collins, Chalmers, Rush, and Wright are fr and so.

I understand that. But our freshmen this year are not starters. They don't have the same pressure on them like Chalmers, Wright, and Rush had last year. That is a lot of pressure for first year players to be starting. It is a different situation. I do realize they are still a young team, but I like this year's situation much better.

Lzen
02-28-2007, 09:54 PM
KU is going to have their hands full with Texas. They're playing much better now that they're not completely dependent on Durant
I am hoping that their freshmen play at Allen Fieldhouse like our freshmen did at Austin last year. ;)

ROYC75
02-28-2007, 09:57 PM
Haven't read the whole thread, but watched the game. What a classic. Acie Law is flat out ridiculous. So savvy. The quick free throw was genious. KU is going to have their hands full with Texas. They're playing much better now that they're not completely dependent on Durant. There's three teams in the Big 12 that could do some damage in the tourney.


Bingo ! WOW, what a game, Acie Law is amazing.

KU has there hands full with TX on Sat. after this win.

Now, How did TX lose to KSU in Austin ?

Again what a game to watch . :clap: :clap: :clap:

Skip Towne
02-28-2007, 09:58 PM
I understand that. But our freshmen this year are not starters. They don't have the same pressure on them like Chalmers, Wright, and Rush had last year. That is a lot of pressure for first year players to be starting. It is a different situation. I do realize they are still a young team, but I like this year's situation much better.
All of these guys are starters. There is just not enough room for all of them. In a couple of years, they should be awesome. They are pretty damn good without Sr. leadership.

Simply Red
02-28-2007, 10:04 PM
All of these guys are starters. There is just not enough room for all of them. In a couple of years, they should be awesome. They are pretty damn good without Sr. leadership.

A.M. is the true threat to most any team in the nation.

BWillie
02-28-2007, 10:06 PM
Anybody know where I can find a picture of the Big 12 Championship Trophy? :D

Simply Red
02-28-2007, 10:09 PM
Anybody know where I can find a picture of the Big 12 Championship Trophy? :D

google. and go to the images option. My best guess.

leviw
02-28-2007, 10:13 PM
My All-Big 12 Voting, as I will submit to the Conference next week:

Player of the Year:
Acie Law, Texas A&M

Freshman of the Year:
Kevin Durant, Texas

Newcomer of the Year:
Stefhon Hannah, Missouri

1st Team
Acie Law, Texas A&M
Kevin Durant, Texas
Jarrius Jackson, Texas Tech
Mario Boggan, Oklahoma State
Julian Wright, Kansas

2nd Team
Cartier Martin, Kansas State
Stefhon Hannah, Missouri
Aleks Maric, Nebraska
JamesOn Curry, Oklahoma State
Nate Carter, Oklahoma

All Freshman Team
Kevin Durant, Texas
D.J Augustin, Texas
Xavier Silas, Colorado
Wesley Johnson, Iowa State
Sherron Collins, Kansas

BWillie
02-28-2007, 10:16 PM
My All-Big 12 Voting, as I will submit to the Conference next week:

Player of the Year:
Acie Law, Texas A&M

Freshman of the Year:
Kevin Durant, Texas

Newcomer of the Year:
Stefhon Hannah, Missouri

1st Team
Acie Law, Texas A&M
Kevin Durant, Texas
Jarrius Jackson, Texas Tech
Mario Boggan, Oklahoma State
Julian Wright, Kansas

2nd Team
Cartier Martin, Kansas State
Stefhon Hannah, Missouri
Aleks Maric, Nebraska
JamesOn Curry, Oklahoma State
Nate Carter, Oklahoma

All Freshman Team
Kevin Durant, Texas
D.J Augustin, Texas
Xavier Silas, Colorado
Wesley Johnson, Iowa State
Sherron Collins, Kansas

You really don't like Brandon Rush..he'll get on the second team. I'm hoping Mario at least gets on the third team this year. He got screwed last year.

leviw
02-28-2007, 10:23 PM
You really don't like Brandon Rush..he'll get on the second team. I'm hoping Mario at least gets on the third team this year. He got screwed last year.

I love Brandon, but KU distributes its scoring so much, it's hard to put two guys on the first two teams. Where Rush has tailed off lately, Julian has picked up some major slack, plus he had the huge game at Mizzou. That's why he gets the nod.

Skip Towne
02-28-2007, 10:26 PM
KU has 5 players averaging more than 10 points per game. No stars as is evidenced by these polls. With KU, you have to pick your poison. All of them can kill you.

Ari Chi3fs
02-28-2007, 10:42 PM
man, i love college basketball. Great shit.

BWillie
02-28-2007, 10:44 PM
KU has 5 players averaging more than 10 points per game. No stars as is evidenced by these polls. With KU, you have to pick your poison. All of them can kill you.

What are you doing up so late old man Skip? Jeez.

Skip Towne
02-28-2007, 11:15 PM
What are you doing up so late old man Skip? Jeez.
My electricity went off at 5 PM and didn't come back on till 10 PM. I had to stay up to drink some beer.

CoMoChief
03-01-2007, 06:25 AM
My All-Big 12 Voting, as I will submit to the Conference next week:

Player of the Year:
Acie Law, Texas A&M

Freshman of the Year:
Kevin Durant, Texas

Newcomer of the Year:
Stefhon Hannah, Missouri

1st Team
Acie Law, Texas A&M
Kevin Durant, Texas
Jarrius Jackson, Texas Tech
Mario Boggan, Oklahoma State
Julian Wright, Kansas

2nd Team
Cartier Martin, Kansas State
Stefhon Hannah, Missouri
Aleks Maric, Nebraska
JamesOn Curry, Oklahoma State
Nate Carter, Oklahoma

All Freshman Team
Kevin Durant, Texas
D.J Augustin, Texas
Xavier Silas, Colorado
Wesley Johnson, Iowa State
Sherron Collins, Kansas

Durant will win Big12 PoY. Hell he might even win NCAA PoY.

Lzen
03-01-2007, 08:09 AM
Durant will win Big12 PoY. Hell he might even win NCAA PoY.

As well he should, IMO.

the Talking Can
03-01-2007, 08:17 AM
Durant will win Big12 PoY. Hell he might even win NCAA PoY.

he will, but Law deserves some kind of special award for Biggest Cajones....

I'm glad UT is playing well and ranked high, KU needs a real test...can't wait for the game

leviw
03-01-2007, 08:39 AM
Durant will win Big12 PoY. Hell he might even win NCAA PoY.

I'm not saying how it will be, I'm saying how I'm voting. Either way, I'm not sure that's the case. I can see Law winning Big 12 POY, and Durant winning National POY.