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Logical
03-03-2007, 05:37 PM
Removes the locker room cancer, gives us a replacement and fills our 4th round void. What do you think would you make this trade?

Deberg_1990
03-03-2007, 05:38 PM
Ummmmm.......NO

Deberg_1990
03-03-2007, 05:39 PM
the locker room cancer

Proof please....

L.A. Chieffan
03-03-2007, 05:39 PM
Maybe Willie McGee and I would consider it.

acesn8s
03-03-2007, 05:40 PM
Just a fourth rounder? Even with McGahee that ain't enough. Throw in an OT and we'll talk.

kstater
03-03-2007, 05:40 PM
Maybe LJ for McGahee and a 1st.

Kraut
03-03-2007, 05:40 PM
No. I just can't see it working.

Mecca
03-03-2007, 05:44 PM
Buffalo wouldn't do that deal.......they want to trade McGahee to avoid dealing with Rosenhaus and a big contract....

The last thing they'll want back is another RB wanting a big contract, not to mention one with more miles on him.

Count Alex's Losses
03-03-2007, 05:47 PM
Are you nucking futs?

McGahee is more of a locker room cancer in Buffalo than LJ has EVER BEEN here.

JBucc
03-03-2007, 05:54 PM
I'd rather trade LJ for a 2nd and sign Henry if we're going to do something drastic.

Logical
03-03-2007, 05:54 PM
Are you nucking futs?

McGahee is more of a locker room cancer in Buffalo than LJ has EVER BEEN here.

Do you have a Buffalo news article about that with a link?

Logical
03-03-2007, 05:55 PM
I'd rather trade LJ for a 2nd and sign Henry if we're going to do something drastic.I would go for that as well.

Brock
03-03-2007, 05:55 PM
Buffalo wouldn't do that deal.......they want to trade McGahee to avoid dealing with Rosenhaus and a big contract....

The last thing they'll want back is another RB wanting a big contract, not to mention one with more miles on him.

LOL, McGahee has about 30 fewer carries than Larry Johnson has. Just plain STUPID.

Steve Sewell
03-03-2007, 05:56 PM
I'd rather trade LJ for a 2nd and sign Henry if we're going to do something drastic.

You'll be seeing Henry in the orange and blue next year my friend.

JBucc
03-03-2007, 05:56 PM
You'll be seeing Henry in the orange and blue next year my friend.No I won't, cause I'm color blind, so HA! or something.

Steve Sewell
03-03-2007, 05:57 PM
Do you have a Buffalo news article about that with a link?

It's the faulty "he's a Cane and has Rosehous for an agent so he must be a cancer" syndrome.

Count Alex's Losses
03-03-2007, 05:57 PM
Do you have a Buffalo news article about that with a link?

Nope.

Mecca
03-03-2007, 05:57 PM
LOL, McGahee has about 30 fewer carries than Larry Johnson has. Just plain STUPID.

When he breaks the carry record let me know.

Count Alex's Losses
03-03-2007, 05:58 PM
LOL, McGahee has about 30 fewer carries than Larry Johnson has. Just plain STUPID.

Not to mention that his knee was ****ING DESTROYED in college.

Brock
03-03-2007, 05:58 PM
When he breaks the carry record let me know.

Yeah, cuz that's a magic number that means anything at all.

Count Alex's Losses
03-03-2007, 05:59 PM
McGahee couldn't even stay healthy for all 16 games last year.

Mecca
03-03-2007, 06:00 PM
I love how the history of backs that do that now doesn't matter because a Chiefs back did it.

If LJ doesn't completely implode in the next 2 years he's an exception not the rule.

The Bad Guy
03-03-2007, 06:02 PM
Absolute ****ing lunacy.Willis McGahee has rebuilt knees and isn't really that good.

Count Alex's Losses
03-03-2007, 06:03 PM
Absolute ****ing lunacy.Willis McGahee has rebuilt knees and isn't really that good.

Yep. He's also a dipshit that coined himself the best RB in the league. When did you ever hear LJ making outlandish proclamations like that?

keg in kc
03-03-2007, 06:03 PM
"4th round void"?

ROFL

Mecca
03-03-2007, 06:03 PM
Absolute ****ing lunacy.Willis McGahee has rebuilt knees and isn't really that good.

Playing behind one of the worst lines in the NFL tends to do that......multiply our line times about 10 on the negative and that's what he's been working with.

Fairplay
03-03-2007, 06:09 PM
Thats a stupid idea.

Buffalo would be salivating at that deal, and look at you as the sucker.

Steve Sewell
03-03-2007, 07:13 PM
Absolute ****ing lunacy.Willis McGahee has rebuilt knees and isn't really that good.

Now it's both knees?

Short Leash Hootie
03-03-2007, 07:20 PM
Let's trade a guy who never gets injured for a guy with less talent and a knack for injuries!

BRILLIANT!

acesn8s
03-03-2007, 07:21 PM
BRILLANT!

Count Alex's Losses
03-03-2007, 07:23 PM
Let's trade a guy who never gets injured for a guy with less talent and a knack for injuries!

BRILLIANT!

I think Willis must have redshirted a year at USC or something...

Bill Parcells
03-03-2007, 07:27 PM
Are you nucking futs?

McGahee is more of a locker room cancer in Buffalo than LJ has EVER BEEN here.
I can't believe I am agreeing with GoChiefs.

Valiant
03-03-2007, 07:30 PM
Dammit IF we are doing mythical trades..

Then LJ for Brandon Jacobs and thier 1st

Count Alex's Losses
03-03-2007, 07:36 PM
I can't believe I am agreeing with GoChiefs.

Thanks billy boy...why haven't the Jets signed anyone! MANGINA SUCKS!!!!!!! :D

Logical
03-03-2007, 07:41 PM
"4th round void"?

ROFLKeg am I mistaken, did we not give up our 4th rounder to NO?

Bill Parcells
03-03-2007, 07:44 PM
Thanks billy boy...why haven't the Jets signed anyone! MANGINA SUCKS!!!!!!! :D
We resigned Cotcherry..we take care of our own first..the Jets are even thinking of signing Andre Wadsworth..do you know who he is?


the Patriots are killing me though..mumbles said during the pro bowl that blowing a 21 point lead to the Colts really bothered him..and they signed Adelius Thomas in 2 seconds.

Count Alex's Losses
03-03-2007, 07:45 PM
the Jets are even thinking of signing Andre Wadsworth..do you know who he is?
.

Yeah, another bust.

Miles
03-03-2007, 07:49 PM
the Jets are even thinking of signing Andre Wadsworth..do you know who he is?


Knee injuries and microfracture surgery pretty much ruined his career and he hasn't played in 5 or 6 years.

Bill Parcells
03-03-2007, 07:50 PM
Yeah, another bust.
We're going to trade Vilma for a number 1 pick..we will get either Adrian Peterson or Adam Carricker..ever here of them?

Bill Parcells
03-03-2007, 07:52 PM
Knee injuries and microfracture surgery pretty much ruined his career and he hasn't played in 5 or 6 years.
They've already brought him in to work him out..they have nothing to lose.

link (http://jetnation.com/)

Count Alex's Losses
03-03-2007, 07:57 PM
We're going to trade Vilma for a number 1 pick..we will get either Adrian Peterson or Adam Carricker..ever here of them?

Yes, I work for a bloody magazine that covers the draft.

Who's offering a #1 for Vilma?

Bill Parcells
03-03-2007, 08:00 PM
Yes, I work for a bloody magazine that covers the draft.

Who's offering a #1 for Vilma?
The Jets have been actively shopping him..the Redskins were hot for him..but they just signed London Fletcher..

Maybe the Lions,they play that crap cover 2 defense..he would be perfect for them.

Florida_Bronco
03-03-2007, 08:05 PM
Yes, I work for a bloody magazine that covers the draft.

Who's offering a #1 for Vilma?

You get paid a couple bucks to write homerish, internet fodder articles. You have no inside sources and make Bill Williamson look like a top rate reporter.

Count Alex's Losses
03-03-2007, 08:10 PM
The Jets have been actively shopping him..the Redskins were hot for him..but they just signed London Fletcher..

Maybe the Lions,they play that crap cover 2 defense..he would be perfect for them.

It's not crap, it gave Kansas City the best defense it's had in almost a decade!!!

BUT...if you guys can get a first round pick for Vilma, that'd be nice. I think he's pretty overrated. I guess Mangina agrees with me. :D

go bowe
03-03-2007, 08:15 PM
who's this bill williamson you speak of?

does he play nt?

Bill Parcells
03-03-2007, 08:21 PM
It's not crap, it gave Kansas City the best defense it's had in almost a decade!!!

BUT...if you guys can get a first round pick for Vilma, that'd be nice. I think he's pretty overrated. I guess Mangina agrees with me. :D
Vilma can't play inside in a 3-4..he's a 4-3 middle linebacker..

Who knows..Herm and that nitwit Bradway traded a number 1 pick for Doug Jolley..maybe Vilma goes to the Chiefs for their number 1 pick. :D

Crashride
03-03-2007, 08:22 PM
Once again we only have he said she said of the media telling tales of LJ being a "cancer." Support it with facts before making more thread about this. LJ needs to stay. Im starting to think you guys are loosing it

|Zach|
03-03-2007, 08:22 PM
That player and pick are not acceptable

Skip Towne
03-03-2007, 08:24 PM
LOL, McGahee has about 30 fewer carries than Larry Johnson has. Just plain STUPID.
Not to mention that artificial knee.

Halfcan
03-03-2007, 08:32 PM
Sorry don't want Macgayhee- and to give up LJ? Are you drinking tonight??

My sources say LJ will sign a long term deal within the next month.

Cntrygal
03-03-2007, 08:37 PM
As I said in another thread somewhere.... WM plays when he wants to play......

Count Alex's Losses
03-03-2007, 08:39 PM
As I said in another thread somewhere.... WM plays when he wants to play......

There you go Logical.

Skip Towne
03-03-2007, 08:39 PM
Sorry don't want Macgayhee- and to give up LJ? Are you drinking tonight??

My sources say LJ will sign a long term deal within the next month.
You have sources too? Dammit, I'm getting me some sources.

htismaqe
03-03-2007, 08:40 PM
Vilma can't play inside in a 3-4..he's a 4-3 middle linebacker..

Who knows..Herm and that nitwit Bradway traded a number 1 pick for Doug Jolley..maybe Vilma goes to the Chiefs for their number 1 pick. :D

I'd take it. :D

Halfcan
03-03-2007, 08:40 PM
Yeah the newspaper-lol

htismaqe
03-03-2007, 08:40 PM
You have sources too? Dammit, I'm getting me some sources.

I thought you had sources?

Oh, they're talking about FOOTBALL...

Skip Towne
03-03-2007, 08:41 PM
As I said in another thread somewhere.... WM plays when he wants to play......
He doesn't play very well anytime. 868 carries for an average 3.9 ypc. Close to Mike Cloud numbers.

Skip Towne
03-03-2007, 08:42 PM
I thought you had sources?

Oh, they're talking about FOOTBALL...
I don't know how many will catch that but I did.

htismaqe
03-03-2007, 08:43 PM
I don't know how many will catch that but I did.

:thumb:

Cntrygal
03-03-2007, 08:47 PM
He doesn't play very well anytime. 868 carries for an average 3.9 ypc. Close to Mike Cloud numbers.

His best season IMO, was his his second season with us (he sat out the first due to rehab on his knee) and he didn't really play until around week 8. Then he was "auditioning" for the start for the following season. Which he won, and we dumped Henry. He went downhill from there. He's had flashes of how he could play if he felt like it... primarily when the current #2 would come in and fail to be a failure. Then the ****er would coast again.

Count Alex's Losses
03-03-2007, 08:49 PM
His best season IMO, was his his second season with us (he sat out the first due to rehab on his knee) and he didn't really play until around week 8. Then he was "auditioning" for the start for the following season. Which he won, and we dumped Henry. He went downhill from there. He's had flashes of how he could play if he felt like it... primarily when the current #2 would come in and fail to be a failure. Then the ****er would coast again.

Wow. When has LJ EVER half-assed it like that?

crazycoffey
03-03-2007, 09:06 PM
dumb, dumb dumb idea, put away the crack pipe.

crazycoffey
03-03-2007, 09:07 PM
IF we traded him, I'd say 1st and 4th, talk priest and bennett into doing good and maybe draft a rookie

milkman
03-03-2007, 09:17 PM
IF we traded him, I'd say 1st and 4th, talk priest and bennett into doing good and maybe draft a rookie

No one is going to give up a first and a fourth for LJ.

We'd be lucky to get a first.

|Zach|
03-03-2007, 09:19 PM
No one is going to give up a first and a fourth for LJ.

We'd be lucky to get a first.
I think you are wrong...hell a first was given up for a WR last year who has yet to have a 1k season.

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/302177

Mecca
03-03-2007, 09:19 PM
No one is going to give up a first and a fourth for LJ.

We'd be lucky to get a first.

I've been saying this forever.....no one wants to believe it. Lots of overration of our players and not understanding their value goes on here.

Mecca
03-03-2007, 09:20 PM
I think you are wrong...hell that was given up for a WR last year who has yet to have a 1k season.

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/302177

There are alot more teams in need of WR's than RB's........RB is th easiest position in the league to fill.

|Zach|
03-03-2007, 09:22 PM
There are alot more teams in need of WR's than RB's........RB is th easiest position in the league to fill.
We are not talking about "filling" you running back position. We are talking about putting Larry Johnson there.

That has a lot of value.

milkman
03-03-2007, 09:23 PM
I think you are wrong...hell a first was given up for a WR last year who has yet to have a 1k season.

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/302177

The draft is an even bigger crapshoot for WR than for RB.

Someone else (Parker?) pointed out the Marshal Faulk trade in another thread.

The Rams only gave up a second and fifth rounder for him.

LJ is pretty good, but he's no MF.

crazycoffey
03-03-2007, 09:23 PM
No one is going to give up a first and a fourth for LJ.

We'd be lucky to get a first.
I'm not even suggesting to trade him, I'm saying that IF CP were he better not do it for a worse RB and a fourth. It would be smarter to get the best for him, he's not asking for a trade, he may be harsh in lthe ocker room, but I'm not reading that he's TO material or anything.

Mecca
03-03-2007, 09:25 PM
We are not talking about "filling" you running back position. We are talking about putting Larry Johnson there.

That has a lot of value.

Teams look at it this way.....he has mileage and you'll have to pay him....when it's been proven time and time again you'll do fine putting a young guy back there who's "fresh".

RB is a position you can actually save money at and still get production, I personally don't believe you should ever give a RB a 2nd contract with how many teams have them and what's in the draft every year.

|Zach|
03-03-2007, 09:26 PM
The draft is an even bigger crapshoot for WR than for RB.

Someone else (Parker?) pointed out the Marshal Faulk trade in another thread.

The Rams only gave up a second and fifth rounder for him.

LJ is pretty good, but he's no MF.
At what point in MF's career?

Mecca
03-03-2007, 09:28 PM
At what point in MF's career?

Well he got traded before 99 in which he was pretty much one of the best backs ever so there's that.....

crazycoffey
03-03-2007, 09:29 PM
At what point in MF's career?



:clap:
exactly!
It was at the end of Marshall's career, I know LJ had alot of carries, but he is not at the end, no where close.

milkman
03-03-2007, 09:29 PM
At what point in MF's career?

After his fifth season.

|Zach|
03-03-2007, 09:30 PM
Teams look at it this way.....he has mileage and you'll have to pay him....when it's been proven time and time again you'll do fine putting a young guy back there who's "fresh".

RB is a position you can actually save money at and still get production, I personally don't believe you should ever give a RB a 2nd contract with how many teams have them and what's in the draft every year.
I think team's see that you can have one of THE best player's in the NFL playing for your team instead of against them.
You can't see value in that? It isn't about who has the most money left at the end of the season. If actually listened to you I would think LJ's legs would have fallen off after 4 games last year. All he does is run well. Thank god you are talking about how he is going to breakdown...every prediction I have ever read from you on this board turns out wrong. I have been thinking of paying you money to speak out about things I want to happen...

crazycoffey
03-03-2007, 09:31 PM
Hell, I don't know if I would take Marshall at his prime over LJ now, but I'm more of the bruising runner type fan, than the Marshall and Priest / hybrid running back - reciever type out of the back field.

Mecca
03-03-2007, 09:31 PM
:clap:
exactly!
It was at the end of Marshall's career, I know LJ had alot of carries, but he is not at the end, no where close.

99-2002 Faulk was the best RB in the league......man all backs wish they could have "the end of their career" be like that I bet....

He was far better than LJ is was or ever will be in that time span AFTER he was traded.

|Zach|
03-03-2007, 09:32 PM
After his fifth season.
Doesn't surprise me...I think in even that short amount of time the landscape of NFL wheeling and dealing has changed drastically.

Mecca
03-03-2007, 09:33 PM
I think team's see that you can have one of THE best player's in the NFL playing for your team instead of against them.
You can't see value in that? It isn't about who has the most money left at the end of the season. If actually listened to you I would think LJ's legs would have fallen off after 4 games last year. All he does is run well. Thank god you are talking about how he is going to breakdown...every prediction I have ever read from you on this board turns out wrong. I have been thinking of paying you money to speak out about things I want to happen...

That prediction is just soley based on the history of guys with that many carries of the ball......if he doesn't decline significantly he'd be an exception to the rule.

|Zach|
03-03-2007, 09:34 PM
That prediction is just soley based on the history of guys with that many carries of the ball......if he doesn't decline significantly he'd be an exception to the rule.
What you see on the field be damned right?

5 bucks to you if you post that Missouri State won't get into the NCAA's this year.

I would love for them to sneak into the dance.

crazycoffey
03-03-2007, 09:36 PM
99-2002 Faulk was the best RB in the league......man all backs wish they could have "the end of their career" be like that I bet....

He was far better than LJ is was or ever will be in that time span AFTER he was traded.


I don't know if I agree with this 100%, IMO. I really enjoyed the turf show expecially when it came to KC. But I really like the more controled offense better.

Mecca
03-03-2007, 09:37 PM
I don't know if I agree with this 100%, IMO. I really enjoyed the turf show expecially when it came to KC. But I really like the more controled offense better.

Well Faulk is HOFer.....and LJ will never sniff the all around back Faulk was. In his heyday Faulk was truly the best player out there. He could lineup as a WR and display WR skills.

LJ to me can never sniff him because he'll never have the recieving skills or the overall game, they're close as pure RB's but Faulk brings so much more.

milkman
03-03-2007, 09:38 PM
Hell, I don't know if I would take Marshall at his prime over LJ now, but I'm more of the bruising runner type fan, than the Marshall and Priest / hybrid running back - reciever type out of the back field.

The Marshall/Priest/Tomlinson type backs, with their versatility, add a dimension to the offense that make it more dynamic and unpredictable.

Mecca
03-03-2007, 09:40 PM
Marshall Faulk had the best recieving skills of any back I've ever seen.....guys like him are very rare players.

When your RB can put up 1000 rushing and recieving while having less than 400 total touches, that says something for his talent.

|Zach|
03-03-2007, 09:41 PM
Marshall Faulk had the best recieving skills of any back I've ever seen.....guys like him are very rare players.

When your RB can put up 1000 rushing and recieving while having less than 400 total touches, that says something for his talent.
You would have never even given him a second contract.

Mecca
03-03-2007, 09:42 PM
You would have never even given him a second contract.

Like I've said before there are some exceptions...Tomlinson, Faulk.. all around backs that can truly do it all that you know are HOF guys still in their primes, ok.

LJ isn't that......he's 1 dimensional and is taking a hell of pounding, LT and Faulk were shifty and avoided, even though Faulks knee problems have caught up to him just from playing on turf his whole career.

crazycoffey
03-03-2007, 09:44 PM
Well Faulk is HOFer.....and LJ will never sniff the all around back Faulk was. In his heyday Faulk was truly the best player out there. He could lineup as a WR and display WR skills.

LJ to me can never sniff him because he'll never have the recieving skills or the overall game, they're close as pure RB's but Faulk brings so much more.



don't mis-understand me, I understand Marshall was the first LT, and could hit you in different ways and he was a great back and so is LT. I'm only saying, in response to your opinion, that I'm not sold 100% that I would want marshall or even LT over a Jim Brown, LT type.



I don't like our old fluffy offense, I like the idea of looking at the opposition say we're going to pop them in the nose and then being able to follow through with it.

|Zach|
03-03-2007, 09:44 PM
Like I've said before there are some exceptions...Tomlinson, Faulk.. all around backs that can truly do it all that you know are HOF guys still in their primes, ok.

LJ isn't that......he's 1 dimensional and is taking a hell of pounding, LT and Faulk were shifty and avoided, even though Faulks knee problems have caught up to him just from playing on turf his whole career.
The guy was in the NFL for what 9 years? Nothing caught up to him...

Count Alex's Losses
03-03-2007, 09:47 PM
LJ isn't one dimensional, jesus. You're talking like he's bloody Jerome Bettis or something.

milkman
03-03-2007, 09:51 PM
LJ isn't one dimensional, jesus. You're talking like he's bloody Jerome Bettis or something.

True, but he doesn't approach Priest/Faulk/Tomlinson for versatility.

The fact that he has to be taken out on obvious passing downs hurts the offense.

keg in kc
03-03-2007, 10:04 PM
The funniest thing is, he's maybe the only player I've seen who's one-dimensional because of pouting. When he wants to contribute in the passing game he does.

crazycoffey
03-03-2007, 10:06 PM
True, but he doesn't approach Priest/Faulk/Tomlinson for versatility.

The fact that he has to be taken out on obvious passing downs hurts the offense.


play to your player's strengths, LJ got better on passing downs, minus a few bad routes. could say the same thing about every WR.

Skip Towne
03-03-2007, 10:11 PM
The funniest thing is, he's maybe the only player I've seen who's one-dimensional because of pouting. When he wants to contribute in the passing game he does.
I don't think he is used correctly in the passing game. Some of his best gains have been when he leaks out of the backfield in the middle of the field. He saved one game with that play. And they should run the shovel pass to him. Things that get him in the open field where he really excels.

|Zach|
03-03-2007, 10:13 PM
I don't think he is used correctly in the passing game. Some of his best gains have been when he leaks out of the backfield in the middle of the field. He saved one game with that play. And they should run the shovel pass to him. Things that get him in the open field where he really excels.
It seemed like when Green got back their chemistry on those plays out of the backfield they did try to execute were horrible.

Just awful...not LJ being shitty at it...

crazycoffey
03-03-2007, 10:14 PM
I don't think he is used correctly in the passing game. Some of his best gains have been when he leaks out of the backfield in the middle of the field. He saved one game with that play. And they should run the shovel pass to him. Things that get him in the open field where he really excels.


exactly, they tried to run the old offensive playbook meant for Priest with LJ, and it didn't work. I say Duh, giving skip the props on this post....


WTF just happened????

JK :p

Brock
03-03-2007, 11:28 PM
Teams look at it this way.....

You wouldn't have any idea how teams look at anything.....what you mean to say is "I look at it this way".....

keg in kc
03-03-2007, 11:29 PM
You wouldn't have any idea how teams look at anything.....Madden 2007, baby.

boogblaster
03-03-2007, 11:33 PM
LJ needs to stay..a mobile QB needs to run the O ....

Logical
03-04-2007, 12:05 AM
LJ needs to stay..a mobile QB needs to run the O ....

What would tell you that? The fact LJ cannot or does not want to block?

dirk digler
03-04-2007, 12:16 AM
Well he got traded before 99 in which he was pretty much one of the best backs ever so there's that.....

Are you saying Faulk was one of the best backs before he was traded or after?

He wasn't great until he got to St. Louis where they used him the way he was supposed to be used.

1994 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 314 1282 4.1 52 11 12 58
1995 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 289 1078 3.7 40 11 6 68
1996 Indianapolis Colts 13 13 198 587 3.0 43 7 1 41
1997 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 264 1054 4.0 45 7 7 65
1998 Indianapolis Colts 16 15 324 1319 4.1 68 6 5 62


1999 St. Louis Rams 16 16 253 1381 5.5 58 7 9 65
2000 St. Louis Rams 14 14 253 1359 5.4 36 18 6 78
2001 St. Louis Rams 14 14 260 1382 5.3 71 12 8 70

After the 2001 season he went downhill fast.

milkman
03-04-2007, 12:23 AM
The Colts were a crap team.

He actually never put up huge numbers as a runner, but his versatility made him an outstanding RB.

You forgot to show his receiving stats with the Colts.


Year Team G GS Rec Yds Avg Lg TD 20+ 40+ 1st
1994 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 52 522 10.0 85 1 3 2 22
1995 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 56 475 8.5 34 3 4 0 18
1996 Indianapolis Colts 13 13 56 428 7.6 30 0 3 0 18
1997 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 47 471 10.0 58 1 3 2 15
1998 Indianapolis Colts 16 15 86 908 10.6 78 4 12 1 44

dirk digler
03-04-2007, 12:27 AM
The Colts were a crap team.

He actually never put up huge numbers as a runner, but his versatility made him an outstanding RB.

You forgot to show his receiving stats with the Colts.


Year Team G GS Rec Yds Avg Lg TD 20+ 40+ 1st
1994 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 52 522 10.0 85 1 3 2 22
1995 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 56 475 8.5 34 3 4 0 18
1996 Indianapolis Colts 13 13 56 428 7.6 30 0 3 0 18
1997 Indianapolis Colts 16 16 47 471 10.0 58 1 3 2 15
1998 Indianapolis Colts 16 15 86 908 10.6 78 4 12 1 44

He was good but he wasn't the one of the best backs ever until he got to St. Louis

dirk digler
03-04-2007, 12:37 AM
If you were to rank the top 10 RB's ever in the NFL Faulk IMHO doesn't make it.

1. Walter Payton
2. Jim Brown
3. Barry Sanders
4. Emmitt Smith
5. Gayle Sayers
6. Eric Dickerson
7. OJ Simpson
8. Earl Campbell
9. Tony Dorsett
10. Marcus Allen

Some other notables are Marion Motley, Franco Harris, Faulk, LT, Thurman Thomas, Curtis Martin.

milkman
03-04-2007, 12:38 AM
He was good but he wasn't the one of the best backs ever until he got to St. Louis

Perhaps.

But when he was traded it was big news, and most pundits thought the Colts were crazy for trading away a RB with his talent.

milkman
03-04-2007, 12:41 AM
If you were to rank the top 10 RB's ever in the NFL Faulk IMHO doesn't make it.

1. Walter Payton
2. Jim Brown
3. Barry Sanders
4. Emmitt Smith
5. Gayle Sayers
6. Eric Dickerson
7. OJ Simpson
8. Earl Campbell
9. Tony Dorsett
10. Marcus Allen

Some other notables are Marion Motley, Franco Harris, Faulk, LT, Thurman Thomas, Curtis Martin.

You can't put Gale Sayers in there.

He is probably the single most exciting player I've ever watched, but he simply didn't play long enough or post the numbers to warrant top 10 all time.

The fact is, he really shouldn't be in the HoF.

dirk digler
03-04-2007, 12:43 AM
You can't put Gale Sayers in there.

He is probably the single most exciting player I've ever watched, but he simply didn't play long enough or post the numbers to warrant top 10 all time.

The fact is, he really shouldn't be in the HoF.


Damn your're old. :p

Count Alex's Losses
03-04-2007, 12:45 AM
The Colts could afford to trade Faulk. They had the #4 pick and were definitely spending it on Edgerrin James.- who everyone knew would be available because the 1-3 teams were drafting quarterbacks.

If the Chiefs had the #4 pick in the draft, and could get Adrian Peterson? Shit, trade LJ.

milkman
03-04-2007, 12:47 AM
Damn your're old. :p

You're just asking me to hit you over the head with my walker, aren't you?

dirk digler
03-04-2007, 12:51 AM
You're just asking me to hit you over the head with my walker, aren't you?

LMAO

I doubt you could lift it over your head old man

:D

Rausch
03-04-2007, 05:14 AM
LJ isn't one dimensional, jesus. You're talking like he's bloody Jerome Bettis or something.

Bettis was only one dimensional once he got long in the tooth and about 200 lbs overweight...

the Talking Can
03-04-2007, 07:39 AM
we should trade our 1st and LJ for Plummer...

Skip Towne
03-04-2007, 07:56 AM
LMAO

I doubt you could lift it over your head old man

:D
Get ready for it, Milkman, it just gets worse. Do you remember when they didn't have face masks? I do.

milkman
03-04-2007, 08:40 AM
Get ready for it, Milkman, it just gets worse. Do you remember when they didn't have face masks? I do.

No, I wasn't around yet for the no face mask era, and I became a football fan at a really young age.

I do remember watching players in the single bar era.

Skip Towne
03-04-2007, 08:56 AM
No, I wasn't around yet for the no face mask era, and I became a football fan at a really young age.

I do remember watching players in the single bar era.
I remember thinking the face mask ruined the looks of the helmet. I've since changed my mind. Also, penalty flags were red, not yellow. I don't remember what year they changed that.

Count Alex's Losses
03-04-2007, 04:22 PM
I remember thinking the face mask ruined the looks of the helmet.

LMAO

This is so funny...

dtebbe
03-04-2007, 08:31 PM
Funny how people think a running back from "DA U" would be any better than LJ.

DT

Short Leash Hootie
03-04-2007, 08:35 PM
After his fifth season.
he never averaged more than 4 YPC in Indianapolis if I recall...

Short Leash Hootie
03-04-2007, 08:37 PM
Marshall Faulk had the best recieving skills of any back I've ever seen.....guys like him are very rare players.

When your RB can put up 1000 rushing and recieving while having less than 400 total touches, that says something for his talent.
I think Reggie Bush has better receiving skills than Marshall Faulk...however, Bush isn't nearly the running back Faulk was during his stretch in St. Louis. I think he has a chance to be better than Faulk though, that's for sure.

KC56DJ
03-04-2007, 08:38 PM
I think we should trade jared allen an our 23rd pick move up an get a guy like amobi okoye the DT from lousville, then wait an see which on of the 18 WR's falls out of the first round an get a guy like sidney rice or meachem in the second round

crazycoffey
03-04-2007, 08:45 PM
I think we should trade jared allen an our 23rd pick move up an get a guy like amobi okoye the DT from lousville, then wait an see which on of the 18 WR's falls out of the first round an get a guy like sidney rice or meachem in the second round


not a bad thought, IMO



thanks for posting, Carl:cuss:

Molitoth
03-05-2007, 08:53 AM
I still don't understand why people would want to trade a proven star for an unproven draft pick. Trade LJ for a draft pick and what if we get a bust??? good deal retard.

DJ_is_the_realdeal
03-05-2007, 11:42 AM
Why are people so down on LJ? We can never get the value we want for this guy. LJ is a gamer. He wants to win and win a championship. What's wrong with that?

Brock
03-05-2007, 11:46 AM
Why are people so down on LJ? We can never get the value we want for this guy. LJ is a gamer. He wants to win and win a championship. What's wrong with that?

I suppose if they can get him to put away his blackberry in team meetings and keep him awake long enough to figure out how to pass block, maybe someday he'll get a chance to win a championship.

DJ_is_the_realdeal
03-05-2007, 11:52 AM
The question is does he bring it on gameday?!

CosmicPal
03-05-2007, 11:55 AM
Honestly, I'm all for trading LJ, but not for McGahee. He's injury-prone and his knee injury in school scared off a lot of teams.

I'd like to see KC trade LJ and get some draft picks out of the deal. This team simply needs to get younger, faster, and fill a lot of holes.

I'd be all for trading Allen, Hall, Bartee, Green, and any one of those over-priced slackers playing for a paycheck and not a championship. Anything to get younger and field some talent. And please, not RAW talent, mind you, but REAL talent.

crazycoffey
03-05-2007, 12:07 PM
RANDOM THOUGHTS
In accepting his Derrick Thomas Chiefs MVP Award, Larry Johnson thanked his coaches and teammates, saying ďI know Iím not perfect, I know I can be pain sometimes.Ē It was L.J. at his best, looking in the mirror and acknowledging his warts to those he cares about. Too bad more fans, and those in the media, didnít see it, because it would dispel their notion of him being a bad apple. Heís a difficult apple at times, thereís no doubt about that. But the core is good.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2007/03/05/gretz_postcards_from_the_101/