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Lzen
03-03-2007, 09:48 PM
The Topeka Capital-Journal CJOnline
Saturday, March 3, 2007

Author
Tully Corcoran
I don’t want to say that mid-major teams ruin the NCAA Tournament, but mid-major teams ruin the NCAA Tournament.

This season, there is a strong possibility that either Kansas State or Texas Tech will not be invited to the dance. This is not because K-State and Tech are not among the 65 best teams but because somewhere some mediocre team is going to come from nowhere to win the tournament in its bad conference and get an automatic bid. This happens a few times every year. It is where compelling NCAA drama begins.

So now Western Mediocre State is, say, a 13 seed playing, say, North Carolina. Everybody in the world knows that Western Mediocre State has no business being on the same floor with North Carolina, including WMS and North Carolina.

So WMS starts launching 3-pointers from the start and hits like 12 of them until, after cruising for 35 minutes, North Carolina goes, “Holy crap, we could actually lose this game.” Only by then it’s too late. Western Mediocre State advances and loses by 25 in the second round.

This happens every year, right? Granted, 90 percent of the time it involves Kansas, Cincinnati or North Carolina, but still.

I realize everybody loves upsets. They produce quaint feature stories about happy-go-lucky coaches who just can’t believe they’re in the Sweet 16 and sappy CBS pieces about written-off D-I athletes who don’t eat cheese cut into the shape of their mascot and go to school for an education or something.

What these don’t give us — at least in this scenario — is an honest tournament field or legitimate matchups.

Wouldn’t it be a better tournament if teams like Texas Tech and Kansas State — teams with actual size and talent — pulled off those early upsets? You’d still get your upsets, only now you’d at least have some reasonable expectation that the underdogs could duplicate the feat without hoping for another miracle shooting night.

Plus, it would substantially cut down on favored teams not taking their early round opponents seriously, which has to account for 50-60 percent of the major upsets over the past five years.

Maybe it’s just me, but I favor whatever system provides the best chance of seeing the best teams and the best players face each other. I want to see Greg Oden vs. Kevin Durant. I want Mike Conley Jr. vs. Sherron Collins. I want Joakim Noah vs. Tyler Hansbrough.

And if I can’t have that, I want Jarrius Jackson vs. Conley and Cartier Martin vs. (why not?) Brandon Rush.

What I have no interest in is a bunch of pre-med students jacking up 3s for 40 minutes, trying to knock off a top seed with a junk offense.

Tully Corcoran, who for the record doesn’t think Michael Beasley looks like a criminal, can be reached at (785) 766-5652 or tully.corcoran@cjonline.com.

Valiant
03-03-2007, 10:26 PM
What a piece of shit article... Who cares if those teams are not in the elite conferences looks like Kansas should learn not to take anything for granted...

DJay23
03-03-2007, 11:31 PM
What I have no interest in is a bunch of pre-med students jacking up 3s for 40 minutes, trying to knock off a top seed with a junk offense.

As a fan of basketball (and KU) I agree with this statement. However it's not always the case. Princeton upset defending national champ UCLA in 96 with a legitimate offense that couldn't be stopped.

kcchiefs12983
03-03-2007, 11:40 PM
here's a thought, dont take your first round opponent lightly whoever they are!!!!!!

StcChief
03-04-2007, 12:00 AM
Waiting for KU to get Bucknelled again.

ChiefsCountry
03-04-2007, 12:12 AM
Waiting for KU to get Bucknelled again.

Belmont Bruins

mikey23545
03-04-2007, 01:06 AM
That may be the stupidest article in the history of college basketball.

Maybe the top 135 teams should all make the tourney...That will eliminate the nasty problem of underachieving teams not doing well enought to not make the top 64.....

Ultra Peanut
03-04-2007, 01:57 AM
Belmont BruinsBingo.

Lzen
03-05-2007, 12:12 PM
I think the article makes a good point. Sure, there are some small conferences that are legit. But often times some of those piss ant schools don't really deserve to be there over teams in the power conferences. Sure, there are upsets - I think the article covered that. And no, I'm not talking about the MVC. The MVC is a good conference. But what happens when some small school with a mediocre record (or even a losing one) gets on a roll and wins their conference tourney? I know the NCAA is trying to be fair by including all the conferences. Just don't think those automatic bids really deserve to be there a lot of times. Oh well. What are you gonna do? It sells tickets and produces TV revenue. Everyone wants to see the underdog do well.

Saulbadguy
03-05-2007, 12:16 PM
The first thing that needs done next year is to extend the 3 point line.

HemiEd
03-05-2007, 12:23 PM
I think they have carried the "Automatic Bid" too far. Who has ever heard of some of these conferences? They have exploited the system by banding together and creating new conferences.

Reerun_KC
03-05-2007, 12:29 PM
Waiting for KU to get Bucknelled again.
I am waiting for MU to make the tourney agian...

Would be nice if they could actually represent the conference at some point...

Lzen
03-05-2007, 12:31 PM
The "B" thing is getting really old. You guys will be singing a new tune after this year's tournament.




Hopefully. :)

CoMoChief
03-05-2007, 12:37 PM
I will always think that the best 64 teams should get in.

I understand the argument of letting the smaller D1 schools have a chance to win their own conference and have an automatic bid. I get that, I understand that.

But the issue is that these automatic bids dont make up the best 64 teams in the country. Do you think teams like Oklahoma, TTech, KSU, Illinois, GTech aren't as good as teams as Belmont, Davidson, or Eastern Tennessee and Winthrop? Give me a break. I can assure you that any of those Bigger schools would win those smaller conferences outright year after year.

I wouldnt be opposed to having a class Tournament like D1AA National Championship. Kind of like High School were some sports are 6A and some other sports they offer are only 4 or 5A.

The one major fact out of all of this is that the 64 best teams don't play in this tournament. Having that said the upsets we see every postseason make it exciting. Whether your team has been a victim of it the last couple seasons. :(

Reerun_KC
03-05-2007, 12:38 PM
The "B" thing is getting really old. You guys will be singing a new tune after this year's tournament.




Hopefully. :)


You nervous about it as I?

If it wasnt for the previous 4 NC's, 12 Final Fours and 50 Conference titles, the rest of the Big 8+4 wouldnt say much..

But when your programs suck that bad, well like MU fan, they have to purchase other schools shirts to feel good about themselves..

It is sad in a very special kind of way.

CoMoChief
03-05-2007, 12:38 PM
I am waiting for MU to make the tourney agian...

Would be nice if they could actually represent the conference at some point...


I wonder if they're gonna be proud of the team and hang another NIT banner in the rafters of Mizzou Arena because that symbolizes accomlishment.

Reerun_KC
03-05-2007, 12:39 PM
The first thing that needs done next year is to extend the 3 point line.


Should bring it back to the international line....

Reerun_KC
03-05-2007, 12:39 PM
I wonder if they're gonna be proud of the team and hang another NIT banner in the rafters of Mizzou Arena because that symbolizes accomlishment.


If they dont get beat first round!

CoMoChief
03-05-2007, 12:42 PM
The first thing that needs done next year is to extend the 3 point line.

Bob Knight hates the 3 point line. MU fans should too because thats all they do and thats a reason why they lose game after game.

kepp
03-05-2007, 12:43 PM
The "B" thing is getting really old. You guys will be singing a new tune after this year's tournament.




Hopefully. :)
So you're gonna move on to the C's? :p

CoMoChief
03-05-2007, 12:46 PM
BTW they just showed the Browns top plays and guess what they had in week13? Derek Anderson's 33 yd run in OT. Hate to ruin everyone's day. lol

CoMoChief
03-05-2007, 12:47 PM
So you're gonna move on to the C's? :p

You mean like what Coppin St did to MU?

Reerun_KC
03-05-2007, 12:48 PM
What year was MU ranked in the top 10 or 5, then proceeded to lose at home, first round of the NIT?

CoMoChief
03-05-2007, 01:10 PM
What year was MU ranked in the top 10 or 5, then proceeded to lose at home, first round of the NIT?

2002-03. I think that was the year they had.

Clemons (LOL)
McKinney
Paulding
Bryant
Johnson

That was a really solid group for MU and probably wont see another like it for a long time. If Quin wasnt such a piece of shit, that team could have went a long ways. They were ranked as high as #3 in the nation after not playing anyone in their non conference schedule while going on a 9 game winning streak to start off the season. Then the slowly choked their way through the whole season and ended up in the NIT, kinda what WSU did this season even though they were overrated to being with. They lost to Michigan in the first round of the NIT that season. LOL Quin is such a piece of shit coach. If he had those players playing with any heart at all that team would have been in the Final 4 had they not had to play KU during the run.

Lzen
03-05-2007, 01:11 PM
You nervous about it as I?

If it wasnt for the previous 4 NC's, 12 Final Fours and 50 Conference titles, the rest of the Big 8+4 wouldnt say much..

But when your programs suck that bad, well like MU fan, they have to purchase other schools shirts to feel good about themselves..

It is sad in a very special kind of way.

I'll admit that I am a little nervous. Self has to prove to me that he can coach in the tournament. I believe he will show that he can this year.

I always thought it was lame that fans of rivals would purchase shirts of another school that knocked off KU in the NCAA tournament. Sad and pathetic, really. I noticed a couple OU fans had Bucknell shirts on that Big Monday game a week ago. :rolleyes: I mean, just think about that. Your team is not good enough to even get there so you have to cheer for a school that you have absolutely no affiliation. Perhaps idiotic is a better term to describe this.

CoMoChief
03-05-2007, 01:15 PM
I'll admit that I am a little nervous. Self has to prove to me that he can coach in the tournament. I believe he will show that he can this year.

I always thought it was lame that fans of rivals would purchase shirts of another school that knocked off KU in the NCAA tournament. Sad and pathetic, really. I noticed a couple OU fans had Bucknell shirts on that Big Monday game a week ago. :rolleyes: I mean, just think about that. Your team is not good enough to even get there so you have to cheer for a school that you have absolutely no affiliation. Perhaps idiotic is a better term to describe this.


I guess fans of rivals of ISU should start wearing Hampton Univ. t shirts for when they got knocked off in the first round in the 2-15 matchup when they had Phizer, etc.

Lzen
03-05-2007, 01:50 PM
I guess fans of rivals of ISU should start wearing Hampton Univ. t shirts for when they got knocked off in the first round in the 2-15 matchup when they had Phizer, etc.

Or Oklahoma a few short years ago when they got knocked out by Indiana State. There are plenty of examples.

Woodrow Call
03-05-2007, 01:55 PM
What year was MU ranked in the top 10 or 5, then proceeded to lose at home, first round of the NIT?

Might be the most disappointing season I have ever experienced in any sport.

I believe they were ranked #2 in one of the polls early on. Then it all imploded. I still haven't gotten over it.