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cmh6476
03-05-2007, 01:28 PM
should be coming out shortly

Stinger
03-05-2007, 01:28 PM
Just caught the end of the update but Broncos sign Travis Henry 12 mil 5 year deal according to ESPN Radio. More to come.


EDIT~~

Upon further review the deal appears to be 5 years 12 mill guaranteed contract. Total amount yet to be disclosed.

Chief Nute
03-05-2007, 01:29 PM
And he will rush for over 1500 yards this year and next year.......and then they will trade him for a defensive stud.

The cycle turns.......

noa
03-05-2007, 01:30 PM
Wow, maybe Henry's agent didn't see the Ahman Green deal. Green got more than double the money and had a worse season than Henry last year. Or maybe he just really wanted to play for the Broncos.

Edit: I see that the $12 million figure is the guaranteed money, so he's probably getting a deal closer to Green's than I initially thought.

dirk digler
03-05-2007, 01:30 PM
Nice signing by the Donkeys

Rooster
03-05-2007, 01:32 PM
Well poop... He should do well in Denver. :banghead: Good signing.

Mecca
03-05-2007, 01:32 PM
Nice sign......that's really a great deal in this market.

Woodrow Call
03-05-2007, 01:32 PM
Nice signing by the Donkeys

Yep. He could be one of the most productive backs in the NFL in that system and the contract looks reasonable.

Mile High Mania
03-05-2007, 01:32 PM
5 years ... $12M. If that's right, then I don't see how anyone (although they will, both fans and hater of Denver) can find much fault with it.

noa
03-05-2007, 01:33 PM
5 years ... $12M. If that's right, then I don't see how anyone (although they will, both fans and hater of Denver) can find much fault with it.

I just saw a scroll on the NFL Network that says $12 million is guaranteed, so the contract is probably a lot higher than that.

Mile High Mania
03-05-2007, 01:33 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2788592 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2788592)

Updated: March 5, 2007, 2:27 PM ET
Henry's fills void in Broncos' backfield
By Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com

Filling their need for a proven tailback, the Denver Broncos on Monday reached a contract agreement with Travis Henry, who was released on Saturday by the Tenenessee Titans to avoid paying him an $8.3 million roster bonus.

Henry will sign a five-year contract that includes $12 million in guarantees, ESPN.com has learned.

Within hours of his release, Henry flew to Denver and visited with Broncos officials over the weekend, while agent Hadley Engelhard negotiated a deal. Henry also drew considerable interest from the Oakland Raiders, who hoped to bring him in for a visit this week.

Henry, 28, carried 270 times for 1,211 yards and seven touchdowns in 2006, and notched six 100-yard outings. The former University of Tennessee standout spent the first four years of his career with the Buffalo Bills before being traded to the Titans in 2005.

In 78 games, including 62 starts, Henry has carried 1,321 times for 5,395 yards and 34 touchdowns. He also has 134 receptions for 886 yards and two scores. In addition to his 1,000-yard season in 2006, Henry ran for over 1,000 yards in two of his four seasons with the Bills.

Mile High Mania
03-05-2007, 01:35 PM
Interesting indeed.

Stinger
03-05-2007, 01:37 PM
Are the Bronco's out of money yet??? :rolleyes:

Mile High Mania
03-05-2007, 01:39 PM
Not sure about the cap situation. I know that Bailey recently restructured his deal which gave them another $3M or so. Plummer's departure created more space...

Mr. Laz
03-05-2007, 01:39 PM
if 12 million is guaranteed then the contract is more like 5 years/32 million.

noa
03-05-2007, 01:40 PM
Not sure about the cap situation. I know that Bailey recently restructured his deal which gave them another $3M or so. Plummer's departure created more space...


Is Rod Smith coming back for another season?

Mile High Mania
03-05-2007, 01:43 PM
Is Rod Smith coming back for another season?

I hope so, he still has a role on the team and he's a hell of a guy to have in the locker room.

Tribal Warfare
03-05-2007, 01:49 PM
Broncos sign Travis Henry

That's not pleasing news, because Henry is damn good RB and a great fit for their offense.

Mile High Mania
03-05-2007, 01:57 PM
So far, I'm digging the feedback around here.

Ultra Peanut
03-05-2007, 01:58 PM
Eh, we're going to suck for at least the next couple of years anyways.

Garcia Bronco
03-05-2007, 02:03 PM
Is Rod Smith coming back for another season?

Rod Smith will be back and better than ever. At his position he is our GOAT. He's the best blocking receiver we have and a team captain.

Sure-Oz
03-05-2007, 02:03 PM
Great signing for them, hopefully we can shut him down, i think that is a huge improvement over the Rb's they have had. Henry was a stud in Buff nad still has game.

bringbackmarty
03-05-2007, 02:12 PM
tell sims to roll up on his leg or we cut him, it's that simple.

Garcia Bronco
03-05-2007, 02:13 PM
tell sims to roll up on his leg or we cut him, it's that simple.

"sweep the leg"

Mr. Laz
03-05-2007, 02:15 PM
"sweep the leg"
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/3055/kkid007lg1wl4.jpg

TRR
03-05-2007, 02:16 PM
Broncos sign Travis Henry

That's not pleasing news, because Henry is damn good RB and a great fit for their offense.

He is a middle-of-the-pack RB, nothing more. I'd take 20 running backs in the league over Travis Henry.

Mile High Mania
03-05-2007, 02:17 PM
He is a middle-of-the-pack RB, nothing more. I'd take 20 running backs in the league over Travis Henry.

Name them... I'd honestly like to know.

SNR
03-05-2007, 02:24 PM
The Bills really ****ed themselves over by drafting McGahee. Travis Henry was a VERY reliable back for them and it was stupid to with Willis when they had so many other problems on that team.... like offensive line.

Mecca
03-05-2007, 02:31 PM
He is a middle-of-the-pack RB, nothing more. I'd take 20 running backs in the league over Travis Henry.

He's made for Denvers system........he'll like like he's top 10 there.

Halfcan
03-05-2007, 02:31 PM
We better beef up our line on Defense.

TRR
03-05-2007, 02:33 PM
Name them... I'd honestly like to know.
I'll give you 25 RB's. Only three or four of these are questionable. Henry doesn't impress me, and can't stay on the field.

LJ
LT
Alexander
T. Jones
J. Jones
Westbrook
R. Bush
Green
S. Jackson
James
R. Johnson
D. McCallister
W. McGahee
W. Parker
C. Portis
F. Taylor
M. Jones-Drew
F. Gore
J. Lewis
C. Williams
W. Dunn
C.Benson
D. Foster
L. Jordan
R. Droughns

There is only 4 that our questionable. There are 15-18 that aren't even arguable.

MOhillbilly
03-05-2007, 02:33 PM
He is a middle-of-the-pack RB, nothing more. I'd take 20 running backs in the league over Travis Henry.

he is a tuff as nails stud.

Garcia Bronco
03-05-2007, 02:33 PM
He is a middle-of-the-pack RB, nothing more. I'd take 20 running backs in the league over Travis Henry.

I love it when people say this type of thing. Since TH is now a Bronco and the best RB in the league, I would like you to list your 20.

TRR
03-05-2007, 02:33 PM
He's made for Denvers system........he'll like like he's top 10 there.

Every RB is built for their system. Tell me something I don't know.

Mecca
03-05-2007, 02:34 PM
I could shave atleast 5 more off that list....other than those bottom 4.

CoMoChief
03-05-2007, 02:34 PM
Ugh, I dont like this signing. He's a prototypical RB for that system.

Garcia Bronco
03-05-2007, 02:39 PM
I'll give you 25 RB's. Only three or four of these are questionable. Hendry doesn't impress me, and can't stay on the field.

LJ
LT
Alexander
T. Jones
J. Jones
Westbrook
R. Bush
Green
S. Jackson
James
R. Johnson
D. McCallister
W. McGahee
W. Parker
C. Portis
F. Taylor
M. Jones-Drew
F. Gore
J. Lewis
C. Williams
W. Dunn
C.Benson
D. Foster
L. Jordan
R. Droughns

There is only 4 that our questionable. There are 15-18 that aren't even arguable.

Henry is better than or as good as

Foster, Jordan, Benson, Parker, R Johnson, Green, Droughns, McGahee and a full time back unlike Dunn, Jones-Drew, Benson, Jordon, Foster, Portis, Westbrooke, R Bush and F Taylor. While the upside on j-d, Bush, and Benson is much more

dirk digler
03-05-2007, 02:39 PM
I love it when people say this type of thing. Since TH is now a Bronco and the best RB in the league, I would like you to list your 20.

LMAO

No doubt he is a solid signing but he is not the best RB in the league

TRR
03-05-2007, 02:40 PM
I love it when people say this type of thing. Since TH is now a Bronco and the best RB in the league, I would like you to list your 20.

Did you just say Henry is now the best RB in the league? If I read that correctly, than you must be a homer.

dirk digler
03-05-2007, 02:40 PM
Did you just say Henry is now the best RB in the league? If I read that correctly, than you must be a homer.

I hope he was being sarcastic.

Garcia Bronco
03-05-2007, 02:41 PM
LMAO

No doubt he is a solid signing but he is not the best RB in the league


:)

TRR
03-05-2007, 02:46 PM
Henry is better than or as good as

Foster, Jordan, Benson, Parker, R Johnson, Green, Droughns, McGahee and a full time back unlike Dunn, Jones-Drew, Benson, Jordon, Foster, Portis, Westbrooke, R Bush and F Taylor. While the upside on j-d, Bush, and Benson is much more

Your high if you think Henry is as good as, or better than Brian Westbrook, Rudy Johnson, Fred Taylor, or Willie Parker. It's not even worth discussing.

Henry is a middle-of-the-pack RB. He will look good in the Broncos system just like every RB does. But he's not even close to the top 15-20 RB's in the league.

Mecca
03-05-2007, 02:47 PM
Fred Taylor is basically done....same as Jamal Lewis, those guys aren't any better than Henry is if they are even better. 5 years ago yea right now no they aren't.

Halfcan
03-05-2007, 02:48 PM
Wow now Denver has the best QB, Running back, CB, and coach in the NFL.

Look Out-pretty scary.

Mile High Mania
03-05-2007, 02:48 PM
Ok, I'll BOLD the options you listed that I would like instead of Henry right now for Denver. I could waiver either way on a few of these, but for the most part... I think you hyper-extended yourself a bit on this list.

LJ
LT
Alexander
T. Jones (fairly equal)
J. Jones (fairly equal)
Westbrook
R. Bush (hasn't proven that he is a 20 carry back yet)
Green (old)
S. Jackson
James (old)
R. Johnson
D. McCallister (older, fairly equal)
W. McGahee (potentially better, more of a headcase)
W. Parker
C. Portis
F. Taylor (old)
M. Jones-Drew
F. Gore
J. Lewis (no thanks)
C. Williams (unproven, lots of potential)
W. Dunn (older)
C.Benson (unproven)
D. Foster (injury prone)
L. Jordan (fairly equal)
R. Droughns (fairly equal, already been there)

Garcia Bronco
03-05-2007, 02:49 PM
Your high if you think Henry is as good as, or better than Brian Westbrook, Rudy Johnson, Fred Taylor, or Willie Parker. It's not even worth discussing.

Henry is a middle-of-the-pack RB. He will look good in the Broncos system just like every RB does. But he's not even close to the top 15-20 RB's in the league.

He's as good as Wille effing Parker. And unlike Westbrooke he's can carry a team...carrying the ball. Westbrooke makes his cheese catching passes...not running between the tackles. Fred Taylor can't tote the rock as a full time guy because he's brittle, and Rudi Johnson is non-factor 10 sundays a year.

Chiefs Pantalones
03-05-2007, 02:50 PM
I called it. I knew once the Texans signed Green the Donkeys would jump on Henry.

Mile High Mania
03-05-2007, 02:51 PM
I'm sure that Garcia was jerkin' your chains.

I will say that had Henry not had a nice turn around season in 2006, I'd agree with you. The fact is that Henry has produced multiple times with two bad teams. I think he can easily become a top 7 or 8 RB in the Denver system this next season.

I like that he is young and unless I missed it, pretty injury free for the bulk of his career.

Again - I think you really reached on the 25 list ... DeShaun Foster? Seriously.

King_Chief_Fan
03-05-2007, 02:52 PM
He's as good as Wille effing Parker. And unlike Westbrooke he's can carry a team...carrying the ball. Westbrooke makes his cheese catching passes...not running between the tackles. Fred Taylor can't tote the rock as a full time guy because he's brittle, and Rudi Johnson is non-factor 10 sundays a year.

I don't think I can agree, but, it doesn't matter.
Henry will look like Portis did in Denver.
Good signing for you guys.

Garcia Bronco
03-05-2007, 02:53 PM
I'm sure that Garcia was jerkin' your chains.

I will say that had Henry not had a nice turn around season in 2006, I'd agree with you. The fact is that Henry has produced multiple times with two bad teams. I think he can easily become a top 7 or 8 RB in the Denver system this next season.

I like that he is young and unless I missed it, pretty injury free for the bulk of his career.

Again - I think you really reached on the 25 list ... DeShaun Foster? Seriously.
Here's the downside....one puff puff from a year's break....or any substance the league might deem inapropiate

Chiefs Pantalones
03-05-2007, 02:53 PM
If the Broncos get their Oline back to form, anyone can run behind it. Last year was the exception...

Garcia Bronco
03-05-2007, 02:54 PM
another downside is Henry likes to boo at little league games.

dirk digler
03-05-2007, 02:55 PM
He's as good as Wille effing Parker. And unlike Westbrooke he's can carry a team...carrying the ball. Westbrooke makes his cheese catching passes...not running between the tackles. Fred Taylor can't tote the rock as a full time guy because he's brittle, and Rudi Johnson is non-factor 10 sundays a year.

I don't know Garcia Westbrook is a stud and actually had more yards, albeit, not by much over Henry and they are basically the same size.

Westbrook - 5-8 203
Henry - 5-9 215

MOhillbilly
03-05-2007, 02:56 PM
I don't know Garcia Westbrook is a stud and actually had more yards, albeit, not by much over Henry and they are basically the same size.

Westbrook - 5-8 203
Henry - 5-9 215

Henry runs bigger than his frame. he is crazy strong.

Mile High Mania
03-05-2007, 02:56 PM
Your high if you think Henry is as good as, or better than Brian Westbrook, Rudy Johnson, Fred Taylor, or Willie Parker. It's not even worth discussing.

Henry is a middle-of-the-pack RB. He will look good in the Broncos system just like every RB does. But he's not even close to the top 15-20 RB's in the league.

Again, I'm not saying that Denver just signed the second coming of Terrell Davis, but Henry has had success and has finished among the top 10 a few times in several categories.

Put him on a team with a proven history of churning out production, then I think you have the makings of an actual threat at RB. And, I'm saying this as a contrast to the last few years where there was a committment to the RBBC approach. I am sure that Mike Bell will see his share of carries, but while guys like Tatum failed to take the #1 role... I think Henry will take it and run with it. (rock me)

Seasons among the league's top 10
Rushes:2002 (http://www.profootballreference.com/years/leaders2002.htm)-4t, 2003 (http://www.profootballreference.com/years/leaders2003.htm)-6Rushing yards:2002 (http://www.profootballreference.com/years/leaders2002.htm)-5, 2006 (http://www.profootballreference.com/years/leaders2006.htm)-10Rushing TDs:2002 (http://www.profootballreference.com/years/leaders2002.htm)-6t, 2003 (http://www.profootballreference.com/years/leaders2003.htm)-9tYards from scrimmage:2002 (http://www.profootballreference.com/years/leaders2002.htm)-8Rush/Receive TDs:2002 (http://www.profootballreference.com/years/leaders2002.htm)-7t, 2003 (http://www.profootballreference.com/years/leaders2003.htm)-9t

Garcia Bronco
03-05-2007, 02:58 PM
I don't know Garcia Westbrook is a stud and actually had more yards, albeit, not by much over Henry and they are basically the same size.

Westbrook - 5-8 203
Henry - 5-9 215

Weatbrooke is a weapon in the Eagle offense...but he's not going carry the ball in the Eagles offense like Henry will in Denver.

Mile High Mania
03-05-2007, 02:59 PM
If the Broncos get their Oline back to form, anyone can run behind it. Last year was the exception...

Denver still had a 1,000 yard runner and two guys that accounted for nearly 1,700 rushing on their own. Granted - 1,000 yards isn't what it used to be, but the ground game wasn't failed. It just wasn't consistently badass and hasn't been for about 2 years in my opinion. Yeah, I know they nearly had two thousand yard backs in 2005, but you know what I mean.

dirk digler
03-05-2007, 02:59 PM
Weatbrooke is a weapon in the Eagle offense...but he's not going carry the ball in the Eagles offense like Henry will in Denver.

I agree and I think this is a very good signing by the Donkeys.

I remember when Priest was hurt alot of people thought Travis Henry would be a nice fit here because he could do alot of the same things Priest did.

Garcia Bronco
03-05-2007, 03:02 PM
I agree and I think this is a very good signing by the Donkeys.

I remember when Priest was hurt alot of people thought Travis Henry would be a nice fit here because he could do alot of the same things Priest did.

Holmes was just awesome in space and he always caught those short outs and turned them up filed for huge gains.

Mile High Mania
03-05-2007, 03:05 PM
The dude better keep his effing nose clean...

Broncos land Travis HenryBy Bill Williamson
Denver Post Staff Writer
Denver PostArticle Last Updated:03/05/2007 01:23:47 PM MST

The Broncos apparently found their starting tailback for the 2007 season when Travis Henry agreed today to a 5-year deal that includes $12 million in guaranteed money, a source familiar with the negotiations confirmed. Henry, gained 1,211 yards on 270 carries for the Tennessee Titans last season. He was released by the Titans on Saturday, allowing the team to avoid paying him an $8.3 million roster bonus.

Henry, 28, ran for 100 or more yards six times last season. He spent the past two years with the Titans after playing four years with the Buffalo Bills, who drafted him from the University of Tennessee. Henry gained more than 1,000 yards during the 2002 and 2003 seasons with the Bills.

He has two strikes against him in the NFL substance abuse policy. A third strike would mean a season-long suspension for Henry.

MOhillbilly
03-05-2007, 03:07 PM
The dude better keep his effing nose clean...

Broncos land Travis HenryBy Bill Williamson
Denver Post Staff Writer
Denver PostArticle Last Updated:03/05/2007 01:23:47 PM MST

The Broncos apparently found their starting tailback for the 2007 season when Travis Henry agreed today to a 5-year deal that includes $12 million in guaranteed money, a source familiar with the negotiations confirmed. Henry, gained 1,211 yards on 270 carries for the Tennessee Titans last season. He was released by the Titans on Saturday, allowing the team to avoid paying him an $8.3 million roster bonus.

Henry, 28, ran for 100 or more yards six times last season. He spent the past two years with the Titans after playing four years with the Buffalo Bills, who drafted him from the University of Tennessee. Henry gained more than 1,000 yards during the 2002 and 2003 seasons with the Bills.

He has two strikes against him in the NFL substance abuse policy. A third strike would mean a season-long suspension for Henry.

remember the 15 year old?

Garcia Bronco
03-05-2007, 03:07 PM
huh?

Mile High Mania
03-05-2007, 03:08 PM
remember the 15 year old?

Hmmm... are you referring to the guy in your signature?

Iowanian
03-05-2007, 03:09 PM
Henry should do well behind the Donkey Cut blockers.

It would be unfortunate if he continued being unhealthy though.

I hope he fires up the bubbler with half the donk team the night before the first drug test of the season.

MOhillbilly
03-05-2007, 03:10 PM
Hmmm... are you referring to the guy in your signature?
his first year in buffalo he was busted for soliciting sex from a 15 year old.

Garcia Bronco
03-05-2007, 03:12 PM
his first year in buffalo he was busted for soliciting sex from a 15 year old.

That happens from time to time when said girl looks like she's 22 or something. He should e old enough not to make that mistake. I tell you though, I am getting sick and tired of reading that stuff about NFL players in general.

Mile High Mania
03-05-2007, 03:12 PM
his first year in buffalo he was busted for soliciting sex from a 15 year old.

Yeah, but ... ok.

Mecca
03-05-2007, 03:13 PM
Henry actually picked that girl up at a gas station of all places.......

Iowanian
03-05-2007, 03:14 PM
I think the Chiefs should send R Kelly, a Gary Glitter Thai hooker and a hash pipe to his room to celebrate.

Garcia Bronco
03-05-2007, 03:18 PM
this is good one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld-KMwGybLg

cdcox
03-05-2007, 03:25 PM
Unfortunately a solid signing by the Donks. Here's to hoping Henry only has a couple years left as a top performer.

meStevo
03-05-2007, 03:27 PM
this is good one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld-KMwGybLg

Reminds me of what he looks like in Madden... he's been one of the best backs for years. Friend had him and Bennett on his Cardinals franchise, it wasn't even fair.

PunkinDrublic
03-05-2007, 03:27 PM
He should do well in their illegal chop blocking scheme.

Mile High Mania
03-05-2007, 03:28 PM
There are still a number of items to address, but I like what the franchise has done so far in FA and via trade.

Mile High Mania
03-05-2007, 03:29 PM
He should do well in their illegal chop blocking scheme.

Enh, I don't think it is quite all that illegal.

Garcia Bronco
03-05-2007, 03:34 PM
There are still a number of items to address, but I like what the franchise has done so far in FA and via trade.

I hope we get Graham...more so than Kerney. But I think we are only going to get one, and Kerney will most likely be the guy.

Mile High Mania
03-05-2007, 03:45 PM
Unless SEA offers Graham more $, I don't know why he'd go to Denver since he says he wants to be THE main weapon and in Denver, he'd be in a role similar to NE with Scheffler.

ROYC75
03-05-2007, 03:48 PM
This sucks ........

Garcia Bronco
03-05-2007, 03:51 PM
Unless SEA offers Graham more $, I don't know why he'd go to Denver since he says he wants to be THE main weapon and in Denver, he'd be in a role similar to NE with Scheffler.

He said he wants to be a number 1? Where? Do you remember?

HerculesRockefell
03-05-2007, 03:55 PM
He said he wants to be a number 1? Where? Do you remember?

He wants to be used more as a receiving threat than he was in New England.

HerculesRockefell
03-05-2007, 03:57 PM
Unless SEA offers Graham more $, I don't know why he'd go to Denver since he says he wants to be THE main weapon and in Denver, he'd be in a role similar to NE with Scheffler.

Peter King said Denver's offer averaged $5.5M per year, so I'm curious to see what the Seahawks offered

Mile High Mania
03-05-2007, 03:58 PM
He said he wants to be a number 1? Where? Do you remember?

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nfl/article/0,2777,DRMN_23918_5393152,00.html

He's known primarily as a two-time Super Bowl champion and a devastating blocker at his position. But tight end Daniel Graham, the former Thomas Jefferson High School and University of Colorado star, wants to show everyone in the NFL he has some additional skills he can showcase, specifically in the passing game. It's one reason he's closed the door on returning to the New England Patriots. And it was also was the focus of a Saturday meeting with the Denver Broncos, who want to sign him as an unrestricted free agent.

"My biggest concern going into the market is how teams are going to use me," Graham admitted. "I feel like all of my talents weren't being used up in New England. I wanted to catch more balls than I did up there. So I'm exploring which teams are going to give me an opportunity to do that." Graham, 28, had his biggest season as a receiver in his second pro year in 2003 with 38 catches for 409 yards. He followed up that performance with a 30-catch season in '04 but has just 37 receptions in 23 games over the last two years combined. One reason his numbers have been kept down has been injuries.

Graham has yet to play a full 16-game schedule in his five seasons since New England made him a No. 1 pick six years ago. He's missed nine games the last two seasons. But the Patriots' scheme was just as culpable. Graham feels he's been pigeon-holed as a blocker. "It's not hard to see that," he said. "You watch any film and you can see I don't go out on routes, I'm in blocking." Graham and his agent have discussed some financial parameters with the Broncos and the club remains a viable candidate for the player's services. Still, the tight end wants to see what free agency could bring elsewhere.

He headed to Oakland on Saturday night, then he'll fly to Seattle on Sunday as part of his tour of the open market. "Money is not the biggest factor," he said in discussing other priorities for a new home. "But I want market value." Because Graham's receiving numbers aren't in the same realm as other big-ticket tight ends such as Kansas City's Tony Gonzalez, San Diego's Antonio Gates or the New York Giants' Jeremy Shockey, market value is perhaps more difficult to ascertain in his case.

There's little doubt he'll help a team with his in-line skills, but that's hard to quantify. "We don't know what it is because how they used me and my role up there," he said of his potential price tag considering his job description with the Patriots. "But coming out of college, everyone knew I could catch the ball. How I was utilized put me in the shadow." Denver already has a solid pass-catching tight end in Tony Scheffler, but the team frequently employs two tight-end formations. Sign Graham and they'll have a pair of players at the position whose skills harken back to a previous time, when Dwayne Carswell and Shannon Sharpe were a tandem. Graham certainly remembers that era. He's not only a Denver native, but his father, Tom, played for the franchise, so he knows Broncos history.

Yet sentimentality doesn't figure to factor into the decision. In fact, Graham has to consider the potential pitfalls against the benefits of possibly playing in his hometown. Sure, friends and family can watch him in person. But there's all the ticket requests and outside distractions here he wouldn't necessarily have in other cities. "It's something I've thought about," Graham said. "And I know if I do come home it's something I'll have to deal with. But I'll be prepared for it if it happens." Copyright 2007, Rocky Mountain News. All Rights Reserved.

Steve Sewell
03-05-2007, 04:00 PM
Ok, I'll BOLD the options you listed that I would like instead of Henry right now for Denver. I could waiver either way on a few of these, but for the most part... I think you hyper-extended yourself a bit on this list.

LJ
LT
Alexander
T. Jones
J. Jones
Westbrook
R. Bush
Green
S. Jackson
James
R. Johnson
D. McCallister
W. McGahee
W. Parker
C. Portis
F. Taylor
M. Jones-Drew
F. Gore
J. Lewis
C. Williams
W. Dunn
C.Benson
D. Foster
L. Jordan
R. Droughns

The ones I think are better than Henry are in bold above.

Mile High Mania
03-05-2007, 04:01 PM
Peter King said Denver's offer averaged $5.5M per year, so I'm curious to see what the Seahawks offered

Yeah, that just sounds like a lot of money when you consider how much potential that I think the rookie QB/TE combo has in that offense. They really like playing pass and catch, and while I think Graham is a very nice player... I don't know that he's worth that kind of $.

I dunno.

Mile High Mania
03-05-2007, 04:02 PM
The ones I think are better than Henry are in bold above.

I guess nothing was in bold on purpose...

HerculesRockefell
03-05-2007, 04:03 PM
Yeah, that just sounds like a lot of money when you consider how much potential that I think the rookie QB/TE combo has in that offense. They really like playing pass and catch, and while I think Graham is a very nice player... I don't know that he's worth that kind of $.

I dunno.

He'd do a ton for the run game and in the redzone, add in he's in his mid-20's and will be with whoever he signs with for awhile, and it's not terrible money. It looks high compared to past deals, but with the new CBA, it's not going to anything out of the ordinary in a couple years.

Garcia Bronco
03-05-2007, 04:11 PM
He wants to be used more as a receiving threat than he was in New England.

I just don't see that happening with us.

Steve Sewell
03-05-2007, 04:12 PM
I guess nothing was in bold on purpose...

Just trying to rile up a Chief's fan into calling me a homer lol

vailpass
03-05-2007, 04:13 PM
I'll give you 25 RB's. Only three or four of these are questionable. Henry doesn't impress me, and can't stay on the field.

LJ
LT
Alexander
T. Jones
J. Jones
Westbrook
R. Bush
Green
S. Jackson
James
R. Johnson
D. McCallister
W. McGahee
W. Parker
C. Portis
F. Taylor
M. Jones-Drew
F. Gore
J. Lewis
C. Williams
W. Dunn
C.Benson
D. Foster
L. Jordan
R. Droughns

There is only 4 that our questionable. There are 15-18 that aren't even arguable.

ROFL Your objectivity is admirable; it prevents you from making completely assinine statements colored only by your hatred of the opponent.

Steve Sewell
03-05-2007, 04:14 PM
He wants to be used more as a receiving threat than he was in New England.

And he would be. I can only imagine the possibilities and unpredictability of the offense with he and Scheffler in there.

Steve Sewell
03-05-2007, 04:15 PM
I love how this place turns into BroncosPlanet when the OMane is having issues.

Mile High Mania
03-05-2007, 04:15 PM
I just see Cutler and Scheffler having a nice rapport and not sure that Graham would be that more incredibly happy with his role.

vailpass
03-05-2007, 04:17 PM
remember the 15 year old?

"She was fifteen years old, going on thirty-five, Doc, and she told me she was eighteen, she was very willing, I practically had to take to sewing my pants shut. Between you and me, uh, she might have been fifteen, but when you get that little red beaver right up there in front of you, I don't think it's crazy at all and I don't think you do either. No man alive could resist that, and that's why I got into jail to begin with. And now they're telling me I'm crazy over here because I don't sit there like a goddamn vegetable. Don't make a bit of sense to me. If that's what's being crazy is, then I'm senseless, out of it, gone-down-the-road, wacko. But no more, no less, that's it."

Steve Sewell
03-05-2007, 04:19 PM
I just see Cutler and Scheffler having a nice rapport and not sure that Graham would be that more incredibly happy with his role.

You'd have to consider that, regardless of his playing situation, he'd have his family close to him, and he'd stand to make a buttload of $$ on local endorsements due to the fact that he's a hometown hero and a CU grad. And for the record, I think Shanahan would use him in line with what he's wanting. He doesn't want to be the focus of the offense, but he does want the team to utilize is offensive skills a bit more.

Iowanian
03-05-2007, 04:20 PM
I think someone needs to spray for fleas.

Mile High Mania
03-05-2007, 04:20 PM
Hey - I'm all for it, but I'm not sure what I would like more... the TE or the DE currently considering a deal. I'm thinking if I had to pick, gimme the DE.

Garcia Bronco
03-05-2007, 04:21 PM
You'd have to consider that, regardless of his playing situation, he'd have his family close to him, and he'd stand to make a buttload of $$ on local endorsements due to the fact that he's a hometown hero and a CU grad. And for the record, I think Shanahan would use him in line with what he's wanting. He doesn't want to be the focus of the offense, but he does want the team to utilize is offensive skills a bit more.

I hoipe you right.

Mile High Mania
03-05-2007, 04:21 PM
I think someone needs to spray for fleas.

You mean there isn't this much action going on in the thread dedicated to KC signings? Interesting.

Steve Sewell
03-05-2007, 04:24 PM
You mean there isn't this much action going on in the thread dedicated to KC signings? Interesting.

Carl is hibernating still...give him time!

Mile High Mania
03-05-2007, 04:47 PM
Sounds like they signed the former Rams' FB - Paul Smith, giving us 17 FBs now. (heh)

The Dolphins are also about to release McMichael (TE).

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2788825

Mile High Mania
03-05-2007, 04:52 PM
So, do any of you Donkey Haters know much about the former Ram - Paul Smith (FB). Sounds like he lost his gig in STL due to injury.

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/187651

TRR
03-05-2007, 07:09 PM
ROFL Your objectivity is admirable; it prevents you from making completely assinine statements colored only by your hatred of the opponent.

It doesn't matter what team Henry plays for. He can't stay healthy, and has yet to prove anything.

Woodrow Call
03-05-2007, 07:12 PM
So, do any of you Donkey Haters know much about the former Ram - Paul Smith (FB). Sounds like he lost his gig in STL due to injury.

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/187651

All I know his he kicked ass in a Dynasty I had at UTEP back in my original Playstation days.

I hope that helps. :)

Steve Sewell
03-05-2007, 07:58 PM
It doesn't matter what team Henry plays for. He can't stay healthy, and has yet to prove anything.

In his 5 seasons as a full time starter, 3 of those have been 1200+ yard seasons on really crappy teams. When healthy (he's missed 16 games since becoming a starter) he's been a highly productive back.

Mile High Mania
03-05-2007, 08:08 PM
It doesn't matter what team Henry plays for. He can't stay healthy, and has yet to prove anything.

Sorry, but you lost me when you included DeShaun Foster in the "25 guys I'd take over Travis Henry". Looking at your last comment, I don't see how that could be possible.

DaWolf
03-05-2007, 09:00 PM
Henry is a decent back, nothing special, on his third team now, so starting to look like a "journeyman". He's got skills that should fit the Donx system. Status quo, nothing different than we've seen in the past from the Donx...

stevieray
03-05-2007, 09:02 PM
The Invesco "system"...

ROFL

Mile High Mania
03-05-2007, 09:31 PM
The Invesco "system"...

ROFL

C'mon, you're a believer...

Count Alex's Losses
03-05-2007, 09:33 PM
Good signing.

HC_Chief
03-05-2007, 09:48 PM
<h1>F*CK!</h1>

This was an excellent signing by the donkeys. :grr:

Prodigal19
03-05-2007, 09:55 PM
Travis Henry's total contract is worth 22.5 million over five years.
$12 million is guaranteed.
tahts about $4.5 million per year average. Not to bad of a deal in todays market.
http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/10033511

Rausch
03-05-2007, 09:58 PM
So now they just need a legit WR, TE, and some seasoning on the QB.

I wouldn't bet the farm on the Donks this year but 2 or 3 years down the road they should be competing for a ring.

****ers...

LTforMVP
03-05-2007, 10:08 PM
So now they just need a legit WR, TE, and some seasoning on the QB.

I wouldn't bet the farm on the Donks this year but 2 or 3 years down the road they should be competing for a ring.

****ers...

They need a pass rush before they will be competing for anything

Count Alex's Losses
03-05-2007, 10:14 PM
So now they just need a legit WR, TE, and some seasoning on the QB.
.

They already have the WR and TE.

They need a defensive line.

Steve Sewell
03-05-2007, 10:14 PM
So now they just need a legit WR, TE, and some seasoning on the QB.

I wouldn't bet the farm on the Donks this year but 2 or 3 years down the road they should be competing for a ring.

****ers...

WR: Javon Walker, Brandon Marshall (stud at the end of last season)
TE: Tony Scheffler (see Marshall), Dan Graham (hoping!)
QB: Cutler is already salty as hell

Steve Sewell
03-05-2007, 10:17 PM
They already have the WR and TE.

They need a defensive line.

Yep d line is the biggest hole at this point, now that RB has been addressed. Now that Kerney is gone, it looks like we'll get some of Bate's old faves (kind of like those 2 DT's that Herm brought in for you guys last year) and add some young guys in the draft. I also would be psyched if we got a safety early on as well.

Cochise
03-05-2007, 10:19 PM
Henry is a fine back, and this is a good signing for the Donkos but not without a certain percentage of risk... he has had injuries in the past and like someone else mentioned, he's only one spliff from being on the shelf for a year. Plus he turns 29 this year, so he's close to the age where a running back traditionally starts to decline.

It's ridiculous what some people are saying here about him being a scrub, but I'll wait before I start tying up my noose.

stevieray
03-05-2007, 10:19 PM
So now they just need a legit WR, TE, and some seasoning on the QB.

I wouldn't bet the farm on the Donks this year but 2 or 3 years down the road they should be competing for a ring.

****ers...

sad, but true.

Rausch
03-05-2007, 10:21 PM
They already have the WR and TE.

They need a defensive line.

I'm not sold on anyone outside of Walker. Smith is aged.

Tony Scheffler very well could have come on at the end of the year though. I'd given them up for dead at that point and didn't pay too much attention until the Niners game (giggity!)

milkman
03-05-2007, 10:23 PM
So now they just need a legit WR, TE, and some seasoning on the QB.

I wouldn't bet the farm on the Donks this year but 2 or 3 years down the road they should be competing for a ring.

****ers...

Henry is a good signing for them, but 2 or 3 years down the road, they'll need another RB, cause Henry will be 31-32 and on the decline.

Steve Sewell
03-05-2007, 10:24 PM
Henry is a fine back, and this is a good signing for the Donkos but not without a certain percentage of risk... he has had injuries in the past and like someone else mentioned, he's only one spliff from being on the shelf for a year. Plus he turns 29 this year, so he's close to the age where a running back traditionally starts to decline.

It's ridiculous what some people are saying here about him being a scrub, but I'll wait before I start tying up my noose.

When healthy he is really productive...hopefully he is smart enough to stay away from the reefer for a few years until he's done with football. I think he's got 3-4 good years left in him if can remain healthy. He's definitely not a scrub...especially if he was productive in Buffalo and Tennessee. I mean, Quentin Griffin was productive for the Broncos ffs.

Cochise
03-05-2007, 10:30 PM
When healthy he is really productive...hopefully he is smart enough to stay away from the reefer for a few years until he's done with football. I think he's got 3-4 good years left in him if can remain healthy. He's definitely not a scrub...especially if he was productive in Buffalo and Tennessee. I mean, Quentin Griffin was productive for the Broncos ffs.

There aren't many running backs who are still productive starters in the NFL at 34. I don't know when the last guy who was 33 or 34 to rush for 1,000 yards would even have been.

Henry probably gives Denver 2-3 years of a top back if he can stay healthy and out of trouble. That's worth the money in the NFL. I'm not disagreeing with their logic here.

Steve Sewell
03-05-2007, 10:32 PM
I'm not sold on anyone outside of Walker. Smith is aged.

Tony Scheffler very well could have come on at the end of the year though. I'd given them up for dead at that point and didn't pay too much attention until the Niners game (giggity!)

Smith will be our 3rd WR next year. Marshall was very impressive toward the end of the season, when Cutler began playing, and the same goes for Scheffler. They went from invisible men to key players on the team the second that Cutler took over. Marshal is something crazy like 6'4 235 lbs, fast, and made some amazing grabs last year for a rookie. And Scheffler has some big, big games last year with Cutler.

I know we're only going off of 6 or so games, so I'm not going to anoint them as NFL stars or anything, but there is a lot to get excited about with those 2 guys for Denver fans. Cutler at QB, Henry at RB, Scheffler and potentially Dan Graham at TE, Javon Walker and Brandon Marshall at WR. Not to mention our dirty, vaseline wearing, chop blocking, leg whipping lineman. Scary!

Steve Sewell
03-05-2007, 10:33 PM
There aren't many running backs who are still productive starters in the NFL at 34. I don't know when the last guy who was 33 or 34 to rush for 1,000 yards would even have been.

Henry probably gives Denver 2-3 years of a top back if he can stay healthy and out of trouble. That's worth the money in the NFL. I'm not disagreeing with their logic here.

I thought he was 28? Either way, I agree...32 is basically the cut-off age for RB's in my opinion. If we get 2 good seasons out of him I'm stoked.

alanm
03-05-2007, 10:37 PM
QB: Cutler is already salty as hell
Steve Sewell

Must.....refrain from obvious joke. :banghead: :)

Cochise
03-05-2007, 10:38 PM
I thought he was 28? Either way, I agree...32 is basically the cut-off age for RB's in my opinion. If we get 2 good seasons out of him I'm stoked.

I think he turns 29 during the season, so however you want to count it.

I'm not that worried since we already give up beaucoup rushing yards every time we play Denver it seems, and I'm hoping we are going into full-on rebuilding mode. I don't see him as a torpedo to a potential deep playoff run for the Chiefs...

Steve Sewell
03-05-2007, 10:41 PM
Steve Sewell

Must.....refrain from obvious joke. :banghead: :)

heyyy...I went to Creighton so even though I'm a Donk fan, you've gotta be nice.

Boy did they kick ass in St. Louis this past weekend...hopefully they can carry it over into the big tourney.

Steve Sewell
03-05-2007, 10:43 PM
I think he turns 29 during the season, so however you want to count it.

I'm not that worried since we already give up beaucoup rushing yards every time we play Denver it seems, and I'm hoping we are going into full-on rebuilding mode. I don't see him as a torpedo to a potential deep playoff run for the Chiefs...

You guys need to get rid of Carl before you can do a legit rebuild. That dude almost seems like he's your owner or something. Doe anyone in the Hunt family have the nuts to fire him?

Mile High Mania
03-05-2007, 10:44 PM
I won't worry about Henry 3-4 years from now... hell, as soon as he hits 1,000 yards ... his fate has been sealed and Denver will trade him next season.

Cochise
03-05-2007, 10:47 PM
You guys need to get rid of Carl before you can do a legit rebuild. That dude almost seems like he's your owner or something. Doe anyone in the Hunt family have the nuts to fire him?

:banghead:

Now with the salt in the wounds... I knew this "courteous donk fan" schtick was going to end sooner or later.

Steve Sewell
03-05-2007, 10:48 PM
I won't worry about Henry 3-4 years from now... hell, as soon as he hits 1,000 yards ... his fate has been sealed and Denver will trade him next season.

You're probably right...Shanny probably already has a phone call "re: Henry" to Dan Snyder scheduled in his day planner for Feb 2008.

Isn't there a movie called "Regarding Henry"?

alanm
03-05-2007, 10:48 PM
You guys need to get rid of Carl before you can do a legit rebuild. That dude almost seems like he's your owner or something. Doe anyone in the Hunt family have the nuts to fire him?
Unless Clark hunt fires him or forces him to retire we have the King thru 2009. :(

Steve Sewell
03-05-2007, 10:49 PM
:banghead:

Now with the salt in the wounds... I knew this "courteous donk fan" schtick was going to end sooner or later.

No I'm serious...you said you want to rebuild, wouldn't you want someone else in there doing the rebuilding?

noa
03-05-2007, 10:51 PM
No I'm serious...you said you want to rebuild, wouldn't you want someone else in there doing the rebuilding?


Yeah, for sure. I think we're all just trying to wait out CP's reign, and hope that he makes some decent decisions in his final years.

Steve Sewell
03-05-2007, 10:54 PM
Yeah, for sure. I think we're all just trying to wait out CP's reign, and hope that he makes some decent decisions in his final years.

I honestly didn't mean to be offensive about the Hunts/Petersen relationship. It just seems like it's his job forever...never heard any rumblings as to his status...it almost seems like he is part of their family.

Cochise
03-05-2007, 11:01 PM
I honestly didn't mean to be offensive about the Hunts/Petersen relationship. It just seems like it's his job forever...never heard any rumblings as to his status...it almost seems like he is part of their family.

None of us get it either. You will find few defenders of Carl around here. He just seems to be a cross we have to bear.