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Count Zarth
03-05-2007, 05:17 PM
Said he met with Carl and they don't necessarily want to trade him. Offered him a new contract at a reduced rate.

unothadeal
03-05-2007, 05:17 PM
Gay!!

chiefforlife
03-05-2007, 05:18 PM
The new contract at a reduced rate, will make him even more tradeable...

Kerberos
03-05-2007, 05:42 PM
If Trent truely does not have an ego to feed he could sign and come in to next season to compete for the starting position. If he doesn't get it he will be a VERY nicely paid backup and I would like for him to start working with the PUP Croyle and help us devolop him into a starter that we all hope he can be. Trent has the chance to really show the class we all know he has by being a team player at the end of his career just as much as he was when he got here.

I think Carl is putting the ball in Trents court and its going to be up to Trent what he does from here.

CoMoChief
03-05-2007, 05:44 PM
Looks like we're gonna have a QB controversy folks.

Woodrow Call
03-05-2007, 05:50 PM
Great, Brodie will still be buried on the depth chart. If they wanted to keep Green they should have let Huard walk.

Dr. Facebook Fever
03-05-2007, 05:52 PM
I have all the respect in the world for Trent no matter what he decides. I'm rooting for him to stay in KC... beat out all the competetion in the pre-season and win his starting job back... and then prove on the field that he isn't finished yet.

Go Trent.

Tribal Warfare
03-05-2007, 05:55 PM
I have all the repect in the world for Trent no matter what he decides. I'm rooting for him to stay in KC... beat out all the competetion in the pre-season and win his starting job back... and then prove on the field that he isn't finished yet.

Go Trent.


Amen

AndChiefs
03-05-2007, 05:57 PM
And if he doesn't win the starting job...mentor the new kid.

New QB coach in 2008 anyone?

milkman
03-05-2007, 05:59 PM
And if he doesn't win the starting job...mentor the new kid.

New QB coach in 2008 anyone?

Trent is never going to be a coach.

Extra Point
03-05-2007, 06:06 PM
Good move, FO. Let Green look at the pictures with Croyle, and prep him, while Huard is getting his Gatorade.

Count Zarth
03-05-2007, 06:08 PM
Trent is never going to be a coach.

No shit. I get really tired of telling everyone this.

wutamess
03-05-2007, 06:10 PM
If Trent truely does not have an ego to feed he could sign and come in to next season to compete for the starting position. If he doesn't get it he will be a VERY nicely paid backup and I would like for him to start working with the PUP Croyle and help us devolop him into a starter that we all hope he can be. Trent has the chance to really show the class we all know he has by being a team player at the end of his career just as much as he was when he got here.

I think Carl is putting the ball in Trents court and its going to be up to Trent what he does from here.


Sounds good.
Trent doesn't givashit about you thinking he's a "classy guy".

That always gets under my skin for some reason.

Believer
03-05-2007, 06:14 PM
Green passed the phone to his agent. It was tipped and intercepted.

Dr. Facebook Fever
03-05-2007, 06:19 PM
Green passed the phone to his agent. It was tipped and intercepted.
Did Jesus say it was ok to make fun of people?

Believer
03-05-2007, 06:27 PM
Did Jesus say it was ok to make fun of people?


there you go, making it into a religious post :banghead:

el borracho
03-05-2007, 06:34 PM
Great, Brodie will still be buried on the depth chart. If they wanted to keep Green they should have let Huard walk.
Nope. Now more than ever the Chiefs have all the leverage. Trent can sign for (much) less or we cut him. Huard = insurance and negotiations leverage.

Steve Sewell
03-05-2007, 06:40 PM
Gay!!

GoChiefs or this news?

Mosbonian
03-05-2007, 06:43 PM
Sounds good.
Trent doesn't givashit about you thinking he's a "classy guy".

That always gets under my skin for some reason.

Any particular reason that get's under your skin?

mmaddog
*******

Direckshun
03-05-2007, 06:44 PM
I've heard from a few of the wiser folks here that Trent will never coach, but I don't think I've ever been told why.

NewChief
03-05-2007, 06:46 PM
I've heard from a few of the wiser folks here that Trent will never coach, but I don't think I've ever been told why.

Doesn't want to invest the time sink required to be a coach. He's spent enough time away from his family as a player. He's bigtime into his kids and wife, and he wants to enjoy them. An NFL coach has less family time than a player.

Kerberos
03-05-2007, 07:16 PM
Sounds good.
Trent doesn't givashit about you thinking he's a "classy guy".

That always gets under my skin for some reason.

Kewl

Cause I could give a shit what YOU think he thinks and I could REALLY give a shit if it gets under your skin.

SOUNDS like a personal problem to me.

ClevelandBronco
03-05-2007, 07:24 PM
Looks like we're gonna have a QB controversy folks.

I hope you have as much fun with it as we did.

Bob Dole
03-05-2007, 07:25 PM
I've heard from a few of the wiser folks here that Trent will never coach, but I don't think I've ever been told why.

Because he's got a purdy mouth and is going to be a talking head.

chiefforlife
03-05-2007, 07:26 PM
Doesn't want to invest the time sink required to be a coach. He's spent enough time away from his family as a player. He's bigtime into his kids and wife, and he wants to enjoy them. An NFL coach has less family time than a player.


Id be bigtime INTO his wife too, if given the chance. hehe

DaFace
03-05-2007, 08:04 PM
Id be bigtime INTO his wife too, if given the chance. hehe

Heh...be careful what you say. You never know when someone's family might be reading. ;)

Halfcan
03-05-2007, 08:13 PM
Green needs to go to Miami for their 2nd.

milkman
03-05-2007, 08:21 PM
Green needs to go to Miami for their 2nd.

I am just dumbfounded by posts like this.

DenverDanChiefsFan
03-05-2007, 08:23 PM
I've heard from a few of the wiser folks here that Trent will never coach, but I don't think I've ever been told why.ROFLROFLWise folk here????

go bowe
03-05-2007, 08:25 PM
Green passed the phone to his agent. It was tipped and intercepted.weren't you banned lately?

whatever...

it dosen't really matter much to me...

anyhoo, i don't care what anybody says, that was a pretty good quip...

*hands clapping*

go bowe
03-05-2007, 08:32 PM
Kewl

Cause I could give a shit what YOU think he thinks and I could REALLY give a shit if it gets under your skin.

SOUNDS like a personal problem to me.back in the day, the d.i.'s would tell underperforming trainees and/or those who voiced any complaint to "tell it to the chaplain."

Rausch
03-05-2007, 08:42 PM
We didn't even really let Huard shop around. He was retained quick.

Trent can take the pay cut or we have a solid reason to trade him. Huard proved he can manage this new offense, perhaps even better than Green.

booger
03-05-2007, 09:54 PM
No guarantees for Green

By Jason Cole, Yahoo! Sports
March 5, 2007




Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Trent Green was told by team president Carl Peterson that he can come back to the team next season, but will have to compete for the starting job with second-year quarterback Brodie Croyle and will have to take a pay cut to return.

Hes thinking about the situation, agent Jim Steiner said Monday night. Green, 36, is due to make $7.5 million in base salary. A salary reduction is likely regardless of whether Green plays in Kansas City next season or not.

If Green allows the Chiefs to trade him or asks them to release him, a new team would likely also ask him to take a pay cut. The question is whether Green would have a chance to make up the lost salary in incentives.

Moreover, the bigger issue for Green regards his two-year future. The Chiefs are eager to have Croyle, a third-round pick last year, get more practice time and work in the exhibition season. The Chiefs believe Croyle is their quarterback of the future and feel they have a solid backup in veteran Damon Huard, who signed a three-year contract extension before the start of free agency.

Green, who missed eight games last season after suffering a concussion in the season opener, was told that Croyle would get a lot of practice time with the first team in the offseason and during training camp. With that writing on the wall, Green may feel compelled to go elsewhere, figuring that if the change to Croyle isnt made this year, it could come the following year.

Green could have a chance to go to another team this year and establish himself as a starter for the next two years. The Miami Dolphins are reportedly interested in Green. New Dolphins head coach Cam Cameron coached Green for two years with the Washington Redskins when both were getting started in the NFL.

The Dolphins, who released Joey Harrington on Monday, currently have Daunte Culpepper and Cleo Lemon at quarterback. Getting Green would obviously put Culpepper, who missed much of last season recovering from knee surgery, on the outs with the Dolphins.

Coming into the 2006 season, Green had averaged 23 touchdowns, 13 interceptions and more than 4,000 yards passing in the previous four seasons. However, he threw seven touchdowns and nine interceptions in eight games last season. The Chiefs offense also struggled in a playoff loss to the Indianapolis Colts and Green was part of the problem, botching a snap that cost the Chiefs a score early in the game and throwing the ball away early on several occasions.


http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Ao7_L7cv_0W_iochs27WwJJDubYF?slug=jc-trentgreen030507&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Guru
03-05-2007, 09:58 PM
OK. So we signed Huard to be 7.5 million backup? I don't think so.

Anyong Bluth
03-05-2007, 09:58 PM
Trent has got TV written all over him. But I wouldn't pair him with Vermeil. Dick's performance would suffer greatly and all you'd hear is him slurping and gagging over Trent.

Baconeater
03-05-2007, 09:59 PM
but will have to compete for the starting job with second-year quarterback Brodie Croyle
OK, where does Huard fit into this equation? Is he a solid #3? Hootie's gonna freak.

Chiefs Pantalones
03-05-2007, 10:00 PM
No guarantees for Green

By Jason Cole, Yahoo! Sports
March 5, 2007




Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Trent Green was told by team president Carl Peterson that he can come back to the team next season, but will have to compete for the starting job with second-year quarterback Brodie Croyle and will have to take a pay cut to return.

Hes thinking about the situation, agent Jim Steiner said Monday night. Green, 36, is due to make $7.5 million in base salary. A salary reduction is likely regardless of whether Green plays in Kansas City next season or not.

If Green allows the Chiefs to trade him or asks them to release him, a new team would likely also ask him to take a pay cut. The question is whether Green would have a chance to make up the lost salary in incentives.

Moreover, the bigger issue for Green regards his two-year future. The Chiefs are eager to have Croyle, a third-round pick last year, get more practice time and work in the exhibition season. The Chiefs believe Croyle is their quarterback of the future and feel they have a solid backup in veteran Damon Huard, who signed a three-year contract extension before the start of free agency.

Green, who missed eight games last season after suffering a concussion in the season opener, was told that Croyle would get a lot of practice time with the first team in the offseason and during training camp. With that writing on the wall, Green may feel compelled to go elsewhere, figuring that if the change to Croyle isnt made this year, it could come the following year.

Green could have a chance to go to another team this year and establish himself as a starter for the next two years. The Miami Dolphins are reportedly interested in Green. New Dolphins head coach Cam Cameron coached Green for two years with the Washington Redskins when both were getting started in the NFL.

The Dolphins, who released Joey Harrington on Monday, currently have Daunte Culpepper and Cleo Lemon at quarterback. Getting Green would obviously put Culpepper, who missed much of last season recovering from knee surgery, on the outs with the Dolphins.

Coming into the 2006 season, Green had averaged 23 touchdowns, 13 interceptions and more than 4,000 yards passing in the previous four seasons. However, he threw seven touchdowns and nine interceptions in eight games last season. The Chiefs offense also struggled in a playoff loss to the Indianapolis Colts and Green was part of the problem, botching a snap that cost the Chiefs a score early in the game and throwing the ball away early on several occasions.


http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Ao7_L7cv_0W_iochs27WwJJDubYF?slug=jc-trentgreen030507&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Sweet, it sounds as if the Chiefs are giving Croyle every opportunity to start this year. I hope Croyle gets the nod, I want to get him some experience and see if he has anything and I want to get a good pick next year.

Mile High Mania
03-05-2007, 10:01 PM
I am just dumbfounded by posts like this.

I am as well, there's just no way to expect a #2 for this guy.

88TG88
03-05-2007, 10:02 PM
OK. So we signed Huard to be 7.5 million backup? I don't think so.
agreed

Guru
03-05-2007, 10:03 PM
Sweet, it sounds as if the Chiefs are giving Croyle every opportunity to start this year. I hope Croyle gets the nod, I want to get him some experience and see if he has anything and I want to get a good pick next year.

I am OK with making it a 3-way competition but Huard is overpaid if he is still just a backup. Trent will be overpaid if he ends up 2nd or 3rd string.

I would think it is Huard's job to lose going into camp though.

Baconeater
03-05-2007, 10:06 PM
I am OK with making it a 3-way competition but Huard is overpaid if he is still just a backup. Trent will be overpaid if he ends up 2nd or 3rd string.

I would think it is Huard's job to lose going into camp though.
I would think so too, but this article almost makes him look like odd man out. There is no mention of a 3-way race. Something's fishy here.

Chiefs Pantalones
03-05-2007, 10:09 PM
I would think so too, but this article almost makes him look like odd man out. There is no mention of a 3-way race. Something's fishy here.

I hope Croyle gets it!

Guru
03-05-2007, 10:10 PM
I would think so too, but this article almost makes him look like odd man out. There is no mention of a 3-way race. Something's fishy here.

That is how I read it too. If that turns out to be the case.... Shoot Carl!!!!!!

boogblaster
03-05-2007, 10:18 PM
may the best man win ..GoChiefs at Hotties and Huards wedding .....

Anyong Bluth
03-05-2007, 10:26 PM
Chances are Huard will end up being the starter and his salary isn't redic. Carl threw him a little something for last year's performance.

Mecca
03-05-2007, 10:42 PM
If they wanted to keep Green at less money then Huard shouldn't be back......keeping both of them is just dumb.

Guru
03-05-2007, 11:06 PM
If they wanted to keep Green at less money then Huard shouldn't be back......keeping both of them is just dumb.
EXACTLY

greg63
03-05-2007, 11:10 PM
So is he making less then Huard now? If so, then we know who first and second string QB's are.

Count Zarth
03-05-2007, 11:11 PM
I don't think it's dumb. They're hedging their bets.

I think the Chiefs think Green is the superior quarterback. But they don't want to pay him a ton of money at this point. They'll gladly take Huard, who is slightly inferior to Green, at a reduced rate. But they'd like to have Green all the same, but only if he comes cheaper than he is right now.

And of course, they can always trade him if the offer is good enough. They get to have their cake and eat it too.

Logical
03-06-2007, 12:23 AM
I don't think it's dumb. They're hedging their bets.

I think the Chiefs think Green is the superior quarterback. But they don't want to pay him a ton of money at this point. They'll gladly take Huard, who is slightly inferior to Green, at a reduced rate. But they'd like to have Green all the same, but only if he comes cheaper than he is right now.

And of course, they can always trade him if the offer is good enough. They get to have their cake and eat it too.

Trading him unfortunately is unlikely a predraft option due to accelerated signing bonus cap hit. After June first definitely.

Count Zarth
03-06-2007, 12:26 AM
Trading him unfortunately is unlikely a predraft option due to accelerated signing bonus cap hit. After June first definitely.

Um. Where have you been? Talk of trading Green has been rampant for a week now.

Smed1065
03-06-2007, 12:40 AM
I would think so too, but this article almost makes him look like odd man out. There is no mention of a 3-way race. Something's fishy here.

"The Chiefs are eager to have Croyle, a third-round pick last year, get more practice time and work in the exhibition season."

It does not say start to me when I read it. The competition will be TG and DH with the loser traded to the first team with a QB injury.

HE has needed plenty of quarterbacks the last two years, so maybe we have 4.


:)

Logical
03-06-2007, 12:49 AM
Um. Where have you been? Talk of trading Green has been rampant for a week now.

Rampant but silly, the cap hit would be enormous prior to June first. You eat the entire salary signing bonus in one swallow if traded prior to June 1st. I will believe it when I see it.

Count Zarth
03-06-2007, 12:50 AM
Rampant but silly, the cap hit would be enormous prior to June first. You eat the entire salary signing bonus in one swallow if traded prior to June 1st. I will believe it when I see it.

How do you even know what the cap hit is? The media reported this before any fan thought of it. And he can always rework his deal...

FDS
03-06-2007, 01:09 AM
Samie called Trent The Mentor. That is until Len Dawson smacked him upside the head with a half empty Maker's Mark bottle.

PBJ FirstDownSamie PBJ

Chiefs=Good
03-06-2007, 01:37 AM
Huard was signed i rekon because he will be the starter for at least some of the season. greens been great but his times upi think un less he has an outstanding preseson that he will either be the third strng on reduced pay or traded or even relesed. aswell a foxsports article or whatever dosnt reflect the views of kansas city chiefs and theres know way you can think that huard will not start because hes not mentioned there. also i think croyle will be good but i doubt that he starts from day one, then again like trent a strog preseson could change that. anyways just some thoughts. :)

RedThat
03-06-2007, 03:09 AM
If they wanted to keep Green at less money then Huard shouldn't be back......keeping both of them is just dumb.

I agree with you totally. It wouldn't make sense to keep both QB's.

I mean, I like the idea of both trying to compete for a starting job, but any organization would be stupid to tie up 10 million dollars into 2 QB's.

Unless, Green restructures, then that wouldn't be too bad. But, I don't see him getting paid anywhere near a backup QB. He is prolly gonna still want starting QB money.

Even if we keep him, he wins the job, and Huard is the backup. It doesn't make sense either to pay him 2.5-3 million dollars to sit on the bench. At 37 years of age, coming off a concussion, with a decline in his play this year it is hard to see a role for Green on this team right now.
Especially when it was clear Huard was the better QB last year, and the fact that we re-signed him. And even just knowing that Croyle is in the teams future plans.

*I think this gives every reason to either trade him or release him. No point in keeping Green.

Chiefnj
03-06-2007, 07:07 AM
Rampant but silly, the cap hit would be enormous prior to June first. You eat the entire salary signing bonus in one swallow if traded prior to June 1st. I will believe it when I see it.

You can cut up to two players at any time and designate them as post- 6/1 cuts. They could cut him now if they wanted to and not eat the entire bonus.

Get Green out of KC now. Green's been a class act and it would be nice if he went out a winner, but that ain't happening. He doesn't fit with Herm's style, he was clearly unhappy with the playcalling at the end of the year (as was LJ and Tony). If you can get a pick for him, give him permission to renegotiate with another team.

htismaqe
03-06-2007, 07:30 AM
OK. So we signed Huard to be 7.5 million backup? I don't think so.

So Huard signed to be a $7.5M starter? I don't think so.

htismaqe
03-06-2007, 07:32 AM
I am OK with making it a 3-way competition but Huard is overpaid if he is still just a backup. Trent will be overpaid if he ends up 2nd or 3rd string.

I would think it is Huard's job to lose going into camp though.

$7.5M over 3 years is EXACTLY what a backup QB makes. He's not overpaid at all.

FringeNC
03-06-2007, 07:36 AM
$7.5M over 3 years is EXACTLY what a backup QB makes. He's not overpaid at all.

Seems like a 'tweener salary to me. Too low to be a starter, but higher than a backup.

Rausch
03-06-2007, 07:45 AM
Seems like a 'tweener salary to me. Too low to be a starter, but higher than a backup.

I know that if we get rid of Green they damned well better start Huard over Croyle.

jspchief
03-06-2007, 08:44 AM
Keeping both Green and Huard on the roster will be bad for the Chiefs. And not just in terms of money.

Regardless of who wins that starting job, he's bound to have bad game at some point, which will instanly result in a QB controversy.

It also takes practice snaps away from the QB we spent a 3rd rnd pick on in hopes of developing.

I'm not neccessarily an advocate for Huard or Green either one, but I feel that keeping both of them is going to create more bad then good.

Brock
03-06-2007, 08:47 AM
I know that if we get rid of Green they damned well better start Huard over Croyle.

Personally, I think they ought to start whoever is better.

ct
03-06-2007, 08:49 AM
I have all the respect in the world for Trent no matter what he decides. I'm rooting for him to stay in KC... beat out all the competetion in the pre-season and win his starting job back... and then prove on the field that he isn't finished yet.

Go Trent.

:toast:

htismaqe
03-06-2007, 08:51 AM
Personally, I think they ought to start whoever is better.

How much better do they need to be? And how much should the future factor in?

Starting Huard or Green is yet ANOTHER stop-gap, "let's go 9-7 and fill the seats" move.

There's very little chance that Croyle is 3 or 4 full losses worse than Huard or Green this season, but there's a very good chance that as soon as NEXT YEAR, Green is worth ZERO wins because he's RETIRED. And Huard isn't that far behind him.

It's time to think about the future for a change.

Woodrow Call
03-06-2007, 08:51 AM
Keeping both Green and Huard on the roster will be bad for the Chiefs. And not just in terms of money.

Regardless of who wins that starting job, he's bound to have bad game at some point, which will instanly result in a QB controversy.

It also takes practice snaps away from the QB we spent a 3rd rnd pick on in hopes of developing.

I'm not neccessarily an advocate for Huard or Green either one, but I feel that keeping both of them is going to create more bad then good.

Couldn't agree more.

ct
03-06-2007, 08:54 AM
OK. So we signed Huard to be 7.5 million backup? I don't think so.

$7.5M over 3 years IS backup money!!

from Rotoworld ...

Dallas picks Brad Johnson to back up Romo


Cowboys signed QB Brad Johnson to a three-year, $7.5 million contract.

Johnson had been drawing interest from Denver, but felt "a strong comfort level" with Dallas offensive coordinator Jason Garrett, his former teammate. He should be a good mentor for Tony Romo to fall back on and if Romo gets hurt, a better in-game option than Drew Bledsoe. Mar. 5 - 7:03 pm et

edit: parker beat me to it, must be a mod conspiracy...

htismaqe
03-06-2007, 08:56 AM
Keeping both Green and Huard on the roster will be bad for the Chiefs. And not just in terms of money.

Regardless of who wins that starting job, he's bound to have bad game at some point, which will instanly result in a QB controversy.

It also takes practice snaps away from the QB we spent a 3rd rnd pick on in hopes of developing.

I'm not neccessarily an advocate for Huard or Green either one, but I feel that keeping both of them is going to create more bad then good.

I'm advocating keeping Huard because he's signed and it's not alot of money. We don't need a $45M backup. Trent needs to go somewhere where he can start.

Chiefs Pantalones
03-06-2007, 09:19 AM
Start Croyle!!!

Bowser
03-06-2007, 09:19 AM
Start Croyle!!!

So are you to Croyle what Hootie is to Huard?

Chiefs Pantalones
03-06-2007, 09:22 AM
So are you to Croyle what Hootie is to Huard?

No, because starting Croyle makes more sense than starting Huard. It's time to rebuild. I say we find out what we have in Croyle sooner than later. It's time for the Chiefs to stop with the stop-gaps and risk season ticket holders not renewing. Stop thinking business and start thinking football for a change.

Iowanian
03-06-2007, 09:35 AM
I don't see any way Green AND Huard are on the roster.

The Chiefs retain rights to Huard and a reasonable contract, and if they choose Green(restructured) then they have some leverage to get a pick for Huard.....or Green if he's willing to play ball.

Chiefnj
03-06-2007, 09:49 AM
I don't see any way Green AND Huard are on the roster.

The Chiefs retain rights to Huard and a reasonable contract, and if they choose Green(restructured) then they have some leverage to get a pick for Huard.....or Green if he's willing to play ball.

I don't think Huard has any trade value. If he thought he could get a decent deal somewhere else he would have stuck his toes in the free agency pool. Also, didn't Huard say he was being given the chance to compete for the starting spot?

Brock
03-06-2007, 10:55 AM
How much better do they need to be? And how much should the future factor in?

Starting Huard or Green is yet ANOTHER stop-gap, "let's go 9-7 and fill the seats" move.

There's very little chance that Croyle is 3 or 4 full losses worse than Huard or Green this season, but there's a very good chance that as soon as NEXT YEAR, Green is worth ZERO wins because he's RETIRED. And Huard isn't that far behind him.

It's time to think about the future for a change.

Hey, if Croyle claims the job, fine. But if he stinks it up at training camp and in preseason, I don't see any reason to just hand him the job. Earn it.

King_Chief_Fan
03-06-2007, 10:59 AM
Hey, if Croyle claims the job, fine. But if he stinks it up at training camp and in preseason, I don't see any reason to just hand him the job. Earn it.

Croyle will be the perfect target to pin all the losses this patchwork less talented team on. Herm will survive another year with smoke and mirrors.

Logical
03-06-2007, 11:04 AM
You can cut up to two players at any time and designate them as post- 6/1 cuts. They could cut him now if they wanted to and not eat the entire bonus.

Get Green out of KC now. Green's been a class act and it would be nice if he went out a winner, but that ain't happening. He doesn't fit with Herm's style, he was clearly unhappy with the playcalling at the end of the year (as was LJ and Tony). If you can get a pick for him, give him permission to renegotiate with another team.

Thanks for the information.

Brock
03-06-2007, 11:23 AM
Croyle will be the perfect target to pin all the losses this patchwork less talented team on. Herm will survive another year with smoke and mirrors.

Not sure what you mean by "Herm will survive". Herm will be here as long as Peterson is.

htismaqe
03-06-2007, 11:53 AM
Hey, if Croyle claims the job, fine. But if he stinks it up at training camp and in preseason, I don't see any reason to just hand him the job. Earn it.

I could see the point if he were competing against another young QB prospect.

He's not. He's competing against two guys with NO FUTURE.