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Count Zarth
03-06-2007, 06:27 PM
LMAO

First Plummer, now Bly gives them the business. Must be Shanahan's endearing personality.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=nfl&id=2789949

DENVER -- The Broncos have heard Dre' Bly is bitter about being traded to Denver, and that he'd prefer to play for Washington.

The team, though, wants to give their new cornerback some time to warm up to the deal. It's only been a few days since the 29-year-old Bly was acquired from Detroit -- along with a sixth-round pick -- for running back Tatum Bell, offensive lineman George Foster and a fifth-round pick.

"Hopefully he'll see the light," said Jim Bates, assistant head coach in charge of defense, at a Tuesday get-together for the Broncos' new coaches. "He'll see the opportunity in Denver of being part of a great football team, great organization and being opposite the side of Champ Bailey. Hopefully he'll come around and say, 'Hey, this is where I want to be."

Bates hasn't spoken to Bly personally, but said others, including coach Mike Shanahan and general manager Ted Sundquist, have contacted him.

Bly's agent, Kennard McGuire, didn't return a call or an e-mail from the Associated Press.

"I don't know what Dre's thinking," Bates said. "Hopefully, over the next couple weeks, he'll come our direction and be positive. We want a positive player once we get in here."

The Washington Post, citing people it did not name, reported Bly would rather play for the Redskins because they're closer to his home in Chesapeake, Va.

However, Denver doesn't have any plans to deal their newly acquired defensive back just yet.

"We expect him to be playing corner for us," said Bates, who was out of football last season, but spent the 2005 season as Green Bay's defensive coordinator. "We'd love for him to be all fired up and get ready to roll. Sometimes, especially in today's game, you have to have a little patience and it takes a little time."

The thought of Bly and Bailey holding down the corners for the Broncos brings a smile to the face of Bates. The Broncos can apply more pressure because they don't have to worry about either Pro Bowl player needing extra help.

Bates has already studied film of Bailey from last season and was amazed at the footage. Bailey tied for the league lead in interceptions with 10 and finished second in the Defensive Player of the Year voting.

"I've been fortunate to be around some great corners," Bates said. "I don't think anyone has been more complete from what I've seen on tape than Champ. A lot of these guys were great cover guys, maybe a little inconsistent in the tackling area. Champ does it all, and does it all at a high level."

Denver's Domonique Foxworth was penciled in as the starting right corner until the Bly deal. Foxworth will likely fill the nickel role.

The Broncos are still trying to recover from the loss of cornerback Darrent Williams, who was killed in a drive-by shooting on New Year's Day. The case remains unsolved.

Bly has 33 career interceptions, the fourth-most in the league since 1999. He's returned five interceptions for touchdowns in his career.

Now if the Broncos could only get him to warm up to the deal.

"We've heard some of his remarks since the trade's been made, but hopefully he'll see the light as far as playing opposite Champ Bailey," Bates said. "I think it would be a great opportunity for him."

Mile High Mania
03-06-2007, 06:29 PM
You're an idiot.

Bly saw the huge $ from Snyder and that's what he wants in Denver. Bly has 1 year on his current deal and like most people... he wants an extension.

I don't have an issue with his stance and they'll make it right.

L.A. Chieffan
03-06-2007, 06:30 PM
Welcome to the club Dre.

Count Zarth
03-06-2007, 06:30 PM
You're an idiot.
.

Typical. :rolleyes:

Steve Sewell
03-06-2007, 06:31 PM
Typical. :rolleyes:

Well at least he didn't do a mock and say "your an idiot".

Mile High Mania
03-06-2007, 06:32 PM
I would imagine they were holding off on having talks around a contract extension until they saw what happend with a few of the FA pursuits. I would also imagine that they weren't trading away 2 players and a draft pick for a CB with 1 year remaining and NOT planning on extending the deal to keep him in Denver.

Just my $.02

Mile High Mania
03-06-2007, 06:32 PM
Typical. :rolleyes:

Well, it's a default reply to your typical nonsense.

Iowanian
03-06-2007, 08:28 PM
Well at least he didn't do a mock and say "your an idiot".

You might want to cover that hatchet wound up Shiela, this isn't a European beach board.

Halfcan
03-06-2007, 08:36 PM
Damm Donk fans are sure quick to come to the defense of any player that even mentions Dungver. They turn into the best player to ever wear a uniform.

Way to make new friends Dr. Drea.

Mile High Mania
03-06-2007, 08:45 PM
Let's not get too crazy. I wasn't coming to his defense ... I was more or less just providing my thought on the whole scenario. It's a money thing at this point and to suggest he hates being a Bronco is insane.

Dre hates the reality of not getting the big $ deal that was there had WAS been able to provide an equal or better trade scenario. That's all...

And, suggesting that any of us think any player to wear the predominantly orange and blue uniform is the greatest of all time... well, that's a bit over the top.

Elway and Sharpe are the only two that come to mind for me.

bringbackmarty
03-06-2007, 08:53 PM
on second thought, lets not go to chiefs planet, 'tis a silly place.........

Stinger
03-06-2007, 09:01 PM
Well at least he didn't do a mock and say "your an idiot".

Just an FYI around here it is "Your and Idiot"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v250/stinger871/attachment.jpg

Ari Chi3fs
03-06-2007, 10:29 PM
Imagine getting traded to the ****ing Broncos. That would be a nightmare.

Garcia Bronco
03-06-2007, 10:52 PM
the amusing thing about this is that they list that DC is close to Cheaspeake...depnding on where in NOVA or Maryland you live...it could take 4-7 hours to get there. That's more than a direct flight from DIA..this is about the dollars.

cmh6476
03-06-2007, 10:54 PM
Dre' Bly - DB - Broncos

The Washington Post's Redskins blog believes a Dre Bly deal to Washington is still in play, and it could involve the team's No. 6 overall pick.

Denver has destroyed Washington in a few previous trades. In this scenario, Denver would send Bly, their first-round pick, a mid-round pick and change for the No. 6 overall pick. Shawn Springs would then be moved from Washington. It appears the two sides will continue to talk.
Mar. 6 - 6:21 p.m. ET

Source: Washington Post

Guru
03-06-2007, 10:56 PM
This is nuts man.

Rausch
03-06-2007, 10:58 PM
You're an idiot.

Bly saw the huge $ from Snyder and that's what he wants in Denver. Bly has 1 year on his current deal and like most people... he wants an extension.

I don't have an issue with his stance and they'll make it right.

Bly plays small and is lucky to land a deal playing next to Bailey after the career he's had.

VERY LUCKY.

Halfcan
03-06-2007, 11:19 PM
Skins are stoopid if they make that trade.

Guru
03-06-2007, 11:24 PM
Skins are stoopid if they make that trade.
Well, it is Snyder.

Mecca
03-06-2007, 11:25 PM
Shawn Springs is better than Bly.......

Halfcan
03-06-2007, 11:37 PM
Tell them we will give them TY Law for Springs and the 6th pick. Throw in Bartee, Hicks and Green.

Halfcan
03-06-2007, 11:38 PM
Shawn Springs is better than Bly.......

I never thought he was that great?? :shake:

CupidStunt
03-07-2007, 01:39 AM
Springs is easily better than Bly. I'm hoping the Broncos don't pull that move off.

KCinNY
03-07-2007, 05:02 AM
Playing opposite Bailey might not be that appealing. Dude's gonna get picked on every week.

Mile High Mania
03-07-2007, 06:51 AM
http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/10043397

:hmmm:

" Another issue that could be addressed is the future of Bly, whom Denver acquired in a trade last week. Bly would prefer to play at Washington, but the Broncos are unwilling to part with him for anything less than what they deem fair value.
Already, the Redskins have offered the Broncos cornerback Shawn Springs (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/4602); Denver has asked for Washington's backup running back, Ladell Betts (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/302176), whom the Broncos still would like even though they already have signed free-agent running back Travis Henry (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/235216).

New Orleans has offered Denver a fourth-round pick for Bly; Denver quickly rejected the Saints offer as not enough. The Broncos continue to insist that, unless they get what they want in return, they will not trade Bly, who has one year remaining on his existing contract."

Skip Towne
03-07-2007, 07:07 AM
You can't blame the guy for not wanting to go to that corrupt shithole. This guy has character.

Mile High Mania
03-07-2007, 07:15 AM
You can't blame the guy for not wanting to go to that corrupt shithole. This guy has character.


ROFL Yeah, I applaud him for wanting to move to the moral compass of the league in DC.

Cochise
03-07-2007, 07:22 AM
It's not very often in the NFL it seems like a guy who publicly says, "I don't want to be here", ends up playing there. I expect that they will end up trading him to Washington.

I'd be happy about this but Denver didn't give much up to get him so :shrug:

Mile High Mania
03-07-2007, 07:23 AM
It's not very often in the NFL it seems like a guy who publicly says, "I don't want to be here", ends up playing there. I expect that they will end up trading him to Washington.

I'd be happy about this but Denver didn't give much up to get him so :shrug:

Yeah, and it's WAS ... so they could end up with an even sweeter return for Bly. I'm fine with whatever happens in all honesty.

vailpass
03-07-2007, 07:24 AM
I can't wait to see Shanny bend Snyder over again without so much as spitting on it first.

Brock
03-07-2007, 07:26 AM
I can't wait to see Shanny bend Snyder over again without so much as spitting on it first.

That seems pretty likely at this point.

Mile High Mania
03-07-2007, 07:28 AM
At some point, Snyder has to wise up... right?

Brock
03-07-2007, 07:30 AM
At some point, Snyder has to wise up... right?

He hasn't yet. His problem is he's a fanboy, like Gochiefs.

vailpass
03-07-2007, 07:36 AM
He hasn't yet. His problem is he's a fat phagboy, like Gochiefs.

That wasn't very nice Brock.

Brock
03-07-2007, 08:06 AM
That wasn't very nice Brock.

I will try to tone it down in the future.

Steve Sewell
03-07-2007, 08:09 AM
It's not very often in the NFL it seems like a guy who publicly says, "I don't want to be here", ends up playing there. I expect that they will end up trading him to Washington.

I'd be happy about this but Denver didn't give much up to get him so :shrug:

At this point I don't think there's any way that Bly plays a snap for Denver. Think about the backlash that this dude is going to get from the fans. It's quickly becoming an untenable situation, and the Broncos will eventually get what they want for him from some idiotic team.

Woodrow Call
03-07-2007, 08:22 AM
Somehow Denver is going to end up moving up to Washington's 6th overall pick out of this, I can just feel it.

Denver seems to rape Washington on every trade.

vailpass
03-07-2007, 08:28 AM
I will try to tone it down in the future.

LMAO

Mile High Mania
03-07-2007, 08:35 AM
Somehow Denver is going to end up moving up to Washington's 6th overall pick out of this, I can just feel it.

Denver seems to rape Washington on every trade.

If they can turn Bly and their pick in R1 (and some spare mid round pick) into Springs and the #6... It's cool with me.

vailpass
03-07-2007, 08:38 AM
If they can turn Bly and their pick in R1 (and some spare mid round pick) into Springs and the #6... It's cool with me.

That would top the raping we gave them on the Lelie deal.

Woodrow Call
03-07-2007, 09:01 AM
If they can turn Bly and their pick in R1 (and some spare mid round pick) into Springs and the #6... It's cool with me.

I bet it is. :)

You get the better CB and the better pick. Synder is dumb enough for it to happen.

Mile High Mania
03-07-2007, 09:09 AM
I bet it is. :)

You get the better CB and the better pick. Synder is dumb enough for it to happen.

We're keeping our fingers crossed...

Garcia Bronco
03-07-2007, 09:11 AM
I really don't think Springs is a better CB, because he's as likely to miss as many games as he plays.

BigChiefFan
03-07-2007, 09:12 AM
I doubt he will be happy unless traded to the Redskins. Knowing this gives the Redskins the upper hand, IMO.

vailpass
03-07-2007, 09:14 AM
I doubt he will be happy unless traded to the Redskins. Knowing this gives the Redskins the upper hand, IMO.

With a normal owner you would be correct. With Dan Snyder it creates something we Bronco fans fondly refer to as the "kid in a candy store effect".

ck_IN
03-07-2007, 09:14 AM
<i>You can't blame the guy for not wanting to go to that corrupt shithole.</i>

Ok I gotta call BS on this one. I dislike da Broncs as much as the next guy but Bly is turning down a chance to play for a probable playoff team with an outside chance at a SB appearance to play for a DC team that's circling the drain.

He'd also be opposite Baily which means he'd have mucho chances to pad his int and passes defensed stats which would position him for a nice deal next year.

Kinda proves that Bly isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.

HonestChieffan
03-07-2007, 09:15 AM
I suspect there is too much analysis. He probably cant stand Shanhans smirk. Thats reason enough to hate Donks.

Steve Sewell
03-07-2007, 09:19 AM
<i>You can't blame the guy for not wanting to go to that corrupt shithole.</i>

Ok I gotta call BS on this one. I dislike da Broncs as much as the next guy but Bly is turning down a chance to play for a probable playoff team with an outside chance at a SB appearance to play for a DC team that's circling the drain.

He'd also be opposite Baily which means he'd have mucho chances to pad his int and passes defensed stats which would position him for a nice deal next year.

Kinda proves that Bly isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.

Yeah, but he wants his money NOW, not one year from now. Forget about the winning and all that...he knows that if he's a Skin he gets a big check right now. No risk involved on his end. This is the last big contract opportunity of his career.

HerculesRockefell
03-07-2007, 09:29 AM
I doubt he will be happy unless traded to the Redskins. Knowing this gives the Redskins the upper hand, IMO.

Denver isn't being forced to trade him. It would suck to have him as a one-year rental, but at the same time, he's not going to mail it in either since he'll be playing for a new deal next offseason.

keg in kc
03-07-2007, 10:05 AM
I can understand not wanting to play for the donkeys.

I can't fathom wanting to play for the deadskins.

htismaqe
03-07-2007, 12:30 PM
I honestly think Shanahan KNEW Bly would be unhappy when he traded for him:

Redskins and Broncos could swap picks in Bly deal
According to the Washington Post, Denver and Washington are currently in trade talks centering around Dre Bly. One rumor has the Broncos sending Bly and a first and second round pick to the Redskins in exchange for the sixth overall pick in the draft.

The Broncos and Redskins have been frequent trade partners in the past and Dre Bly continues to request a trade to Washington, so expect some kind of deal to happen soon. Another rumor has Bly being moved for Ladell Betts.

Direckshun
03-07-2007, 12:31 PM
Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinteresting.

HerculesRockefell
03-07-2007, 12:31 PM
I'd bet money that Denver asked for Betts before they signed Henry, it's just coming out now that's who they originally asked for. Since they no longer want Betts, now it's trying to work out a package to move to #6.

Mile High Mania
03-07-2007, 12:32 PM
It wouldn't shock me at all... bit of a gamble, but for some reason, Snyder likes to roll over and bite the pillow when Denver calls about a trade idea.

Mile High Mania
03-07-2007, 12:35 PM
I'd bet money that Denver asked for Betts before they signed Henry, it's just coming out now that's who they originally asked for. Since they no longer want Betts, now it's trying to work out a package to move to #6.

I don't recall which site I was on... but sometime in the last 18 hours (post Henry signing) I was reading a comment about this and they said that there was an interest in Betts even with Henry.

I dunno. Broncos' activity has given me tired head a few times this offseason already... should be interesting.

What are the chances of sending Bly, our R1 and other picks for Springs and their #6? Too crazy?

vailpass
03-07-2007, 12:37 PM
I honestly think Shanahan KNEW Bly would be unhappy when he traded for him:

Redskins and Broncos could swap picks in Bly deal
According to the Washington Post, Denver and Washington are currently in trade talks centering around Dre Bly. One rumor has the Broncos sending Bly and a first and second round pick to the Redskins in exchange for the sixth overall pick in the draft.

The Broncos and Redskins have been frequent trade partners in the past and Dre Bly continues to request a trade to Washington, so expect some kind of deal to happen soon. Another rumor has Bly being moved for Ladell Betts.

The best part is how Shanny makes Snyder think the whole thing is his idea.
Shanny:"We have Dre Bly and he says he isn't happy. I wonder what we should do?"
Snyder:"Say, I have an idea. Why don't you trade him to us.(covers phone and whispers to assistant)"Shannahan is on the line, watch me steal Dre Bly from him"
Shanny: "Wow, great idea Danny boy. Did I hear you say you'll give us Sean Springs and your #6 overall pick"?
Snyder: "Uh, yes. That is exactly what I said" (heh heh sucker)

HerculesRockefell
03-07-2007, 12:37 PM
I don't recall which site I was on... but sometime in the last 18 hours (post Henry signing) I was reading a comment about this and they said that there was an interest in Betts even with Henry.


If someone said that, then they added to what Schefter reported which is where the report that they asked for Betts came from. All Schefter said was that the Skins offered Springs, and the Broncos countered by asking for Betts. He never said when it occurred though, but like I said, I'd bet money those conversations took place prior to the Henry signing.

HerculesRockefell
03-07-2007, 12:40 PM
What are the chances of sending Bly, our R1 and other picks for Springs and their #6? Too crazy?

Not too crazy, just depends on what the Skins are expecting in return. The Skins beat writer in the Washington Post seems to think Denver's going to give up almost their entire 1st day and Bly for the 6th overall.

My guess:
Bly
1st
Skins' 4th next year
Either Denver's 2nd or the Skins' 3rd

for
6th Overall

Mile High Mania
03-07-2007, 12:41 PM
There's a li'l blurb/rumor on www.broncosfreak.com (http://www.broncosfreak.com) about a deal involving Al Wilson and a bunch of other craziness.

Direckshun
03-07-2007, 12:42 PM
They'd probably be able to get Alan Branch at that point.

htismaqe
03-07-2007, 12:42 PM
It wouldn't shock me at all... bit of a gamble, but for some reason, Snyder likes to roll over and bite the pillow when Denver calls about a trade idea.

I believe the word you're looking for is "collusion".

Mecca
03-07-2007, 12:45 PM
It'll be real thrilling to see the Broncos end up with Shawn Springs and Gaines Adams......

Mile High Mania
03-07-2007, 12:45 PM
I believe the word you're looking for is "collusion".

How is that possible?

htismaqe
03-07-2007, 12:46 PM
How is that possible?

It's the NFL's favorite franchise and the NFL's richest owner. They can do whatever the hell they want.

At worst, Denver will get a 3rd or 4th-rounder from Washington to cover the penalty...

Woodrow Call
03-07-2007, 12:47 PM
It'll be real thrilling to see the Broncos end up with Shawn Springs and Gaines Adams......

:cuss: Only Denver gets this lucky.

the Talking Can
03-07-2007, 12:56 PM
Shawn Hamstring Springs?

OnTheWarpath58
03-07-2007, 12:57 PM
Not too crazy, just depends on what the Skins are expecting in return. The Skins beat writer in the Washington Post seems to think Denver's going to give up almost their entire 1st day and Bly for the 6th overall.

That's about right, depending on how you view Bly's value.

Taking Bly out of the equation for a minute.....

According to the Value Chart:

R1, pick 6 is worth 1600

It would take all of Denver's Day One picks (R1, R2, R3x2) to get anywhere close. (1540)

Throwing Springs in the deal would mean Denver wouldhave to give MORE picks to make up for getting the 6th overall, assuming you think Bly and Springs are equally talented.

Bottom line: It SHOULD take a fortune for Denver to move to the 6th spot......

shrek6849
03-07-2007, 12:58 PM
It's the NFL's favorite franchise and the NFL's richest owner. They can do whatever the hell they want.

At worst, Denver will get a 3rd or 4th-rounder from Washington to cover the penalty...

We also didn't land on the moon. Please, tell us that story again.

Mecca
03-07-2007, 12:58 PM
The Redskins don't make logical trades.....

Mile High Mania
03-07-2007, 12:58 PM
Shawn Hamstring Springs?

That has to be the weirdest middle name that I've seen in a while.

HerculesRockefell
03-07-2007, 01:00 PM
I know what the value chart says, but Denver's not forced to trade Bly and this draft's strengths are what Denver needs- DL and safety. I'm sure they'd love to be in position for Adams, Branch, Anderson, or Okoye, but at the same time, they can stand pat and fill more needs. Denver's not going to give up their entire 1st day for one guy.

and an older, injury-prone corner is not valued the same as Bly

the Talking Can
03-07-2007, 01:06 PM
That has to be the weirdest middle name that I've seen in a while.

ROFL

I mean his literal hamstrings...doesn't he have an extensive history of injuries?

given his age and injuries, I'm not sure Bly isn't the better long term prospect, but I haven't watched him play much...

htismaqe
03-07-2007, 01:06 PM
We also didn't land on the moon. Please, tell us that story again.

PROVEN cheaters ALWAYS deflect.

shrek6849
03-07-2007, 01:12 PM
PROVEN cheaters ALWAYS deflect.

You can have YOUR conspiracy THEORIES, please post MORE of them because they GENERALLY make me laugh. I'm ACTUALLY a big fan of you as a POSTER. Tell me the ONE about JFK and the GRASSY knoll.

Mile High Mania
03-07-2007, 01:14 PM
I don't know what the injury history is with Springs...

And, regarding Snyder... I just think he sucks at wheeling and dealing.

HerculesRockefell
03-07-2007, 01:16 PM
I don't know what the injury history is with Springs...


He hasn't played a full season since either '00 or '01

Mile High Mania
03-07-2007, 01:20 PM
Ok ...

2001 / Missed 8 games
2003 / Missed 4 games
2006 / Missed 7 games
2002/2004/2005 Missed 1 game each year

Somewhat concerning for a guy entering season #11

htismaqe
03-07-2007, 01:20 PM
You can have YOUR conspiracy THEORIES, please post MORE of them because they GENERALLY make me laugh. I'm ACTUALLY a big fan of you as a POSTER. Tell me the ONE about JFK and the GRASSY knoll.

I forgot, that 3rd-round pick you lost for cheating the cap was just a "theory" right?