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crazycoffey
03-30-2007, 06:30 PM
Well, I'm Having one of the cuban's I brought home from mexico, I only brought three home, but I had a couple Montecristos there, and they were pretty good. I had a few Romeo y Julieta's a while back in Antigua but today is my First Cohiba.

Got to say, the build up is alittle disappointing, but overall it's still pretty good. But I've had some dominicans that are just as good. I think the Romeo was better, probably the best I've had if I recall it properly.

Anyway, Cigar smokers out there, feedback wanted, tell me your favorites and all that.......

bogie
03-30-2007, 06:46 PM
I am so interested in hearing others opinions on this.

crazycoffey
03-30-2007, 06:50 PM
I am so interested in hearing others opinions on this.



Well, sarcasim is certainly welcome.....

You feel better now?
I know not everyone enjoys cigars, but there are a few and I thought I would put it up to see what other experiences there might be.

bogie
03-30-2007, 07:17 PM
Well, sarcasim is certainly welcome.....

You feel better now?
I know not everyone enjoys cigars, but there are a few and I thought I would put it up to see what other experiences there might be.

You don't know me, so you don't understand that I'm NOT being sarcastic. I am truely interested in hearing about this. I love, love, love a good cigar.

crazycoffey
03-30-2007, 07:20 PM
sorry, I guess I'm getting preconditioned from some people here.....

so what was the last good cigar you had?

bogie
03-30-2007, 07:34 PM
sorry, I guess I'm getting preconditioned from some people here.....

so what was the last good cigar you had?

I wish I could answer this. There is a particular cigar I get every time. It cost $10. and I get the same cigar everytime because the dude in the cigar shop recommended it and so I get it, every time. I know it sounds lame, but I go to the same place in the back, and get the same cigar. I LOVE THIS CIGAR AND HAVE TRIED MANY OTHERS. I WILL GET THE BRAND AND SHARE WITH YOU ON MONDAY.

SCTrojan
03-30-2007, 07:38 PM
Macanudos from the Dominican.

crazycoffey
03-30-2007, 07:39 PM
I wish I could answer this. There is a particular cigar I get every time. It cost $10. and I get the same cigar everytime because the dude in the cigar shop recommended it and so I get it, every time. I know it sounds lame, but I go to the same place in the back, and get the same cigar. I LOVE THIS CIGAR AND HAVE TRIED MANY OTHERS. I WILL GET THE BRAND AND SHARE WITH YOU ON MONDAY.




Cool, would like to hear. I enjoy trying different ones, but there are always those "regulars" too. One of my regulars is the dominician Montecristo white label churchill, well priced and good flavor, good with a coffee, crown royal or a nice wine.

If I haven't tried your regular, I will.

crazycoffey
03-30-2007, 07:42 PM
Macanudos from the Dominican.


a good popular, economic cigar. I think it often gets overlooked by "high browsers" but I like them. Started cigar smoking with 'em.

I read in cigar aficionado they are opening a new line of dark wrapped maduros or something like that. I don't remember exactly but they are supposed to be doing something new..... sorry I started the story without knowing for sure.

bogie
03-30-2007, 07:43 PM
crazycoffey, please understand, there are very few things I would rather do than sit on the front porch and enjoy a good cigar with you. No sarcasm intended. Please understand, however, you must listen to my stories and act interested.

bdeg
03-30-2007, 07:46 PM
Awesome. I just really began getting into cigars a few months ago so I'm trying a new one twice a week or so with the regulars most other nights.

Recommend Cohibas if you want to spnd money.

If you're looking for a cheap starter try a Helix. The ones in the metal tubes for around $4. They pull so nice, although they do get really hot toward the end. I remember I was walking downtown between bars enjoying one of these and I had to get a steak shishkabob from a vendor, it was just such a quality smoke.

Bill Parcells
03-30-2007, 08:00 PM
I like Dominican Cigars more than Cubans.

The key is the Cigar being fresh. there is a place right in my town that has a Dominican guy rolling the Cigars right in the store.you can buy a package of 10 freshly rolled for $26.
And the Humidor is the key also..but you can't smoke in Bars around here anymore :cuss:

www.donfranciscocigars.com

DMAC
03-30-2007, 08:00 PM
Macanudos from the Dominican.
That was my starter.

Never had a cuban.

Montecristos are good, Olivas are good.

And on a day in my canoe....I prefer Backwoods Sweet Aromatic.

crazycoffey
03-30-2007, 08:02 PM
crazycoffey, please understand, there are very few things I would rather do than sit on the front porch and enjoy a good cigar with you. No sarcasm intended. Please understand, however, you must listen to my stories and act interested.


as long as I'm not surprised by a prison rape, or sex change story - you got it.

God gave me two ears and one mouth, so I can listen very well, and talk less.

I'm somewhat of an anthropologist, amateur of course.

Bill Parcells
03-30-2007, 08:04 PM
My favorite Cubans are Monte Cristo #2 torpedo and the Cohiba Esplendido (churchhill)

I had them both in Aruba and the Dominican Republic.

crazycoffey
03-30-2007, 08:04 PM
how about Ashton? The heritage and cabinet are both good smokes.

Bill Parcells
03-30-2007, 08:05 PM
how about Ashton? The heritage and cabinet are both good smokes.
Never smoked an Ashton before.

crazycoffey
03-30-2007, 08:12 PM
La Gloria is good too. I have a huge series R, I think. Ring gauge has to be close to 60, had one a few months ago and it packed a punch. Anyway have one in my humidor waiting for the first golf outing of the year.

crazycoffey
03-30-2007, 08:16 PM
I like Dominican Cigars more than Cubans.

The key is the Cigar being fresh. there is a place right in my town that has a Dominican guy rolling the Cigars right in the store.you can buy a package of 10 freshly rolled for $26.
And the Humidor is the key also..but you can't smoke in Bars around here anymore :cuss:

www.donfranciscocigars.com (http://www.donfranciscocigars.com)



they tried to pass that type of law here in the small suburb of st louis where mr and mrs crazy live, it didn't pass. there is a nice cigar shop downtown, big leather chairs/couches - big screen tv and fully stocked walk in humidor. They are real open to letting you bring in your flask too.

I have a humidor at home, but lots of upkeep, this winter it was hard to keep the humidity up over 65, I like trying to keep it in the low 70's. I added an element and even put a shot glass with some distilled water to help......

Bill Parcells
03-30-2007, 08:20 PM
they tried to pass that type of law here in the small suburb of st louis where mr and mrs crazy live, it didn't pass. there is a nice cigar shop downtown, big leather chairs/couches - big screen tv and fully stocked walk in humidor. They are real open to letting you bring in your flask too.

I have a humidor at home, but lots of upkeep, this winter it was hard to keep the humidity up over 65, I like trying to keep it in the low 70's. I added an element and even put a shot glass with some distilled water to help......
72 is the zone you want for your humidor..too wet and you get a sour Cigar..too dry and you get an unraveling dried out stick.

I've been to St.Louis several times..are you close to U City?

crazycoffey
03-30-2007, 08:24 PM
My favorite Cubans are Monte Cristo #2 torpedo and the Cohiba Esplendido (churchhill)

I had them both in Aruba and the Dominican Republic.



the cubans - the Romeo y Julieta was a maduro, the monty and cohiba were both petites, I just finished the cohiba, it finished pretty well, but it started very well, the middle of the smoke tightened up and it went out on me twice, but when I took it out of my humidor my hygometer read 75, so it might have been my fault.......

Bill Parcells
03-30-2007, 08:33 PM
the cubans - the Romeo y Julieta was a maduro, the monty and cohiba were both petites, I just finished the cohiba, it finished pretty well, but it started very well, the middle of the smoke tightened up and it went out on me twice, but when I took it out of my humidor my hygometer read 75, so it might have been my fault.......
It's too dry..put a small sponge in a small dish and soak it with distilled water,and put a shot glass of distilled water in there.

I don't like Romeo y Julieta's..they're too strong..I like a mild Cigar with a Connecticut wrapper.

OnTheWarpath58
03-30-2007, 08:37 PM
I used to smoke a couple a week, and have since given it up all together. Have a beautifult cherry-wood humidor just sitting in my office empty.... :(

When I smoked, I favored the Dominicans over anything else...including Cubans. Never really thought the Cubans lived up to the hype.

My two faves were C.A.O and H. Upman (sp?)

Good cigars, at a good price. ($5-9 a stick)

crazycoffey
03-30-2007, 08:38 PM
It's too dry..put a small sponge in a small dish and soak it with distilled water,and put a shot glass of distilled water in there.

I don't like Romeo y Julieta's..they're too strong..I like a mild Cigar with a Connecticut wrapper.


I did that a few months ago, added an element too, this damn winter weather, two elements and a shot glass in a small 50 cigar humidor.....

bdeg
03-30-2007, 08:46 PM
I used to smoke a couple a week, and have since given it up all together. Have a beautifult cherry-wood humidor just sitting in my office empty.... :(

When I smoked, I favored the Dominicans over anything else...including Cubans. Never really thought the Cubans lived up to the hype.

My two faves were C.A.O and H. Upman (sp?)

Good cigars, at a good price. ($5-9 a stick)

I'm buying a house next year and would love to have a humidor. Any chance you'd be interested in selling it?

crazycoffey
03-30-2007, 08:46 PM
I used to smoke a couple a week, and have since given it up all together. Have a beautifult cherry-wood humidor just sitting in my office empty.... :(

When I smoked, I favored the Dominicans over anything else...including Cubans. Never really thought the Cubans lived up to the hype.

My two faves were C.A.O and H. Upman (sp?)

Good cigars, at a good price. ($5-9 a stick)


I concur with your assessment, but you have to try the cubans to say you did, too. that's where I'm at.

both CAO and H.Upman are good, St Luis rey was a recent surprise, economical.


there's an american cigar getting good reviews, Tatjuana, or something like that, anyone know the brand or tried one? I've seen Cigar Aficionado give it a few ranking in the 90s, but haven't found it yet....

Simply Red
03-30-2007, 10:08 PM
La Gloria Cubana

Simply Red
03-30-2007, 10:10 PM
It's too dry..put a small sponge in a small dish and soak it with distilled water,and put a shot glass of distilled water in there.

I don't like Romeo y Julieta's..they're too strong..I like a mild Cigar with a Connecticut wrapper.

Dunhill would be an ideal smoke for you.

crazycoffey
03-30-2007, 10:12 PM
La Gloria Cubana

I mentioned that one too, good cigar - strong! I have a series R number 5 (or 6) the big one, 58 ring size, just waiting for the first golf outing.

If you're ever in the St. Louis area, PM me and we will have to meet up and have a stogie, alright?

Phobia
03-30-2007, 10:13 PM
I bought some Cubans in Mexico last time I was there. They, much like most of my other stuff, didn't make it back over the border. Heh.

crazycoffey
03-30-2007, 10:17 PM
I bought some Cubans in Mexico last time I was there. They, much like most of my other stuff, didn't make it back over the border. Heh.


ouch, the truck story?

If not, I know the airliners checked the suitcase pretty well, I took the rings off and put them in a bag with my carry on. I have a metal travel case that holds a few and you are allowed under 25 (without the rings they can't say they are cubans )

Simply Red
03-30-2007, 10:18 PM
I mentioned that one too, good cigar - strong! I have a series R number 5 (or 6) the big one, 58 ring size, just waiting for the first golf outing.

If you're ever in the St. Louis area, PM me and we will have to meet up and have a stogie, alright?


I will make it to a game next season (KC). I have a couple of people I plan on meeting up with when I make the trip. A High School buddy lives on the plaza. I will try to stay there. We'll talk as season grows nearer Coffey.

-SR

crazycoffey
03-30-2007, 10:21 PM
I will make it to a game next season (KC). I have a couple of people I plan on meeting up with when I make the trip. A High School buddy lives on the plaza. I will try to stay there. We'll talk as season grows nearer Coffey.

-SR


Yeah, I need to make a trip to KC for a game too, maybe if the planning goes well and the stars align, etc etc. and all that jazz, perhaps that will be a good day to meet ya.

Simply Red
03-30-2007, 10:24 PM
I bought some Cubans in Mexico last time I was there. They, much like most of my other stuff, didn't make it back over the border. Heh.


Funny story Phob. Wasn't it you that went to Sandals (St. Lucia) for your honeymoon or vacation?

Anyhow. We drove to Castries and my main goal was to buy a Cuban.

Before I even made it to the curb this guy said "CUBANS!" I ended up buying several Monte Cristos from him at $5 each.

Simply Red
03-30-2007, 10:28 PM
Yeah, I need to make a trip to KC for a game too, maybe if the planning goes well and the stars align, etc etc. and all that jazz, perhaps that will be a good day to meet ya.


I may get a room (like I did last time) at the Marriot at the Airpt. I really like that part of KC. Seems Newer and not too far from the stadium. A few Planeteers plan on meeting up with me. I will keep you posted. We have a while...LOL

Phobia
03-30-2007, 10:33 PM
Yeah - we went for our honeymoon.

Yes, that was the same trip as the stolen Yukon except for I left the cigars at a restaurant we had eaten in. I guess that little piece of the story got lost in the excitement of the missing Yukon.

About 20% of the mexican establishments I eat in put something in their pico de gallo to which I am allergic. My throat tightens up and I become really miserable for the next 1-2 hours. Since it is so infrequent and since I enjoy Pico de gallo so much, I generally take my chances. Well, Brian and I are walking around the town and I bought a few Cubans. Then we decided to grab a bite to eat and a couple beers. Sure enough, the allergy kicks in and I'm feeling pretty rough. So I tell Brian I'm going back to the truck to sleep it off - especially since we had about 4 hours of sleep the previous evening... Somehow I left my cigars at that restaurant or somebody lifted them off my person without me knowing it... In any case, they were gone and I was out $40. Then later that night about $30k more when the Yukon went missing.

Not a great Mexico trip.

Simply Red
03-30-2007, 10:39 PM
Yeah - we went for our honeymoon.

Yes, that was the same trip as the stolen Yukon except for I left the cigars at a restaurant we had eaten in. I guess that little piece of the story got lost in the excitement of the missing Yukon.

About 20% of the mexican establishments I eat in put something in their pico de gallo to which I am allergic. My throat tightens up and I become really miserable for the next 1-2 hours. Since it is so infrequent and since I enjoy Pico de gallo so much, I generally take my chances. Well, Brian and I are walking around the town and I bought a few Cubans. Then we decided to grab a bite to eat and a couple beers. Sure enough, the allergy kicks in and I'm feeling pretty rough. So I tell Brian I'm going back to the truck to sleep it off - especially since we had about 4 hours of sleep the previous evening... Somehow I left my cigars at that restaurant or somebody lifted them off my person without me knowing it... In any case, they were gone and I was out $40. Then later that night about $30k more when the Yukon went missing.

Not a great Mexico trip.
So you got married in Mexico?
and cruised to St. Lucia?
that's what I'm gathering...

Phobia
03-30-2007, 10:41 PM
Nah - two different stories.

Married in Houston. Honeymooned in St. Lucia.

Several years later, incident in Mexico during the renovation of Brian's deck.

crazycoffey
03-30-2007, 10:42 PM
Yeah - we went for our honeymoon.

Yes, that was the same trip as the stolen Yukon except for I left the cigars at a restaurant we had eaten in. I guess that little piece of the story got lost in the excitement of the missing Yukon.

About 20% of the mexican establishments I eat in put something in their pico de gallo to which I am allergic. My throat tightens up and I become really miserable for the next 1-2 hours. Since it is so infrequent and since I enjoy Pico de gallo so much, I generally take my chances. Well, Brian and I are walking around the town and I bought a few Cubans. Then we decided to grab a bite to eat and a couple beers. Sure enough, the allergy kicks in and I'm feeling pretty rough. So I tell Brian I'm going back to the truck to sleep it off - especially since we had about 4 hours of sleep the previous evening... Somehow I left my cigars at that restaurant or somebody lifted them off my person without me knowing it... In any case, they were gone and I was out $40. Then later that night about $30k more when the Yukon went missing.

Not a great Mexico trip.


holy cow that sucks. Sorry to hear it, I'll buy you a stogie at my first Planet party (I won't make the april one, though I was thinking hard about it)

I can't wait for a tailgate stogie on gameday with a few planeteers, or some friends - whoever I go to the game with :p

Simply Red
03-30-2007, 10:43 PM
Nah - two different stories.

Married in Houston. Honeymooned in St. Lucia.

Several years later, incident in Mexico during the renovation of Brian's deck.

Ahh okay. You basically took the same Sandals honeymoon all inclusive we did. You've been married for what? 4-5 years or so now?

Brian is Endealt right?

Simply Red
03-30-2007, 10:45 PM
Ahh okay. You basically took the same Sandals honeymoon all inclusive we did. You've been married for what? 4-5 years or so now?

Brian is Endealt right?

Fuggin n00bs!

crazycoffey
03-30-2007, 10:46 PM
Nah - two different stories.

Married in Houston. Honeymooned in St. Lucia.

Several years later, incident in Mexico during the renovation of Brian's deck.


Sorry for being obtuse or insensitive or naive, I thought you were Phil, and now you say you married Brian, so is Phil short for something or - well, you know. (of course, NTTAWWT, but I didn't think Texas supported gay marriage......)

Phobia
03-30-2007, 10:47 PM
Yeah, we just celebrated our 5th anniversary in February.

Yes, Brian is ENDelt.

crazycoffey
03-30-2007, 10:47 PM
Fuggin n00bs!

I think I trumped your N00b question......

Phobia
03-30-2007, 10:48 PM
holy cow that sucks. Sorry to hear it, I'll buy you a stogie at my first Planet party (I won't make the april one, though I was thinking hard about it)

I can't wait for a tailgate stogie on gameday with a few planeteers, or some friends - whoever I go to the game with :p

After I quit tobacco I tried a pretty strong cigar and it made me sick. I haven't had one since. Of course, I haven't had enough disposable income to warrant burning $25 lately so that may be a factor as well.

Phobia
03-30-2007, 10:49 PM
Sorry for being obtuse or insensitive or naive, I thought you were Phil, and now you say you married Brian, so is Phil short for something or - well, you know. (of course, NTTAWWT, but I didn't think Texas supported gay marriage......)
I'm not actually married to Brian but I did live with him for 3 weeks a couple of years ago. Does that make your winky tingle?

crazycoffey
03-30-2007, 10:49 PM
Yeah, we just celebrated our 5th anniversary in February.

Yes, Brian is ENDelt.


congrats you two..... I'm getting close to four - May 31st. but only made it to five on marriage numeral uno.

Simply Red
03-30-2007, 10:52 PM
Yeah, we just celebrated our 5th anniversary in February.

Yes, Brian is ENDelt.

Well chalk it up. I'm coming to KC for a game next season and would like to meet all of ya'll. BTW have you ever sold a German car? I own an 03 Merc. S-500 and put it in the trader as well as the Atlanta paper three wks. ago and have only received two calls on it. Is this normal? Or did I overprice. It's not like it is a GM or something so I expected at the tier it is priced, I'd get little activity. I just hope that one of these prospective buyers are serious...

Simply Red
03-30-2007, 10:55 PM
congrats you two..... I'm getting close to four - May 31st. but only made it to five on marriage numeral uno.
Congrats... It aint easy..

crazycoffey
03-30-2007, 10:59 PM
I'm not actually married to Brian but I did live with him for 3 weeks a couple of years ago. Does that make your winky tingle?


no winky go tingly; just tired, and ready for bed and trying to keep up. I may have been here alot lately, but I have very very limited knowledge of what happened here prior to that.
guess I misunderstood.......


After I quit tobacco I tried a pretty strong cigar and it made me sick. I haven't had one since. Of course, I haven't had enough disposable income to warrant burning $25 lately so that may be a factor as well.


yeah, the disposable income hurts me too when it comes to this lavish extracurricular activity, luckily I have a humidor with a few and a sugar momma that is supporting me until I get back into the swing of things.

BTW, we did the sandels resort too, in Antigua, but very relaxing to have the trip, the drinks, the hotel, the food, etc. all paid for in advance. but in doing the math from this last trip to Mexico, you can certainly save money by not doing an all inclusive and packing a soft cooler in your suitcase to use with store bought beer, etc.

have to be more creative, but it does save a few to several hundreds of dollars......

that being said, I don't regret the sandels trip, again, nice to not have to worry about all the extra stuff......

Phobia
03-30-2007, 11:05 PM
Well chalk it up. I'm coming to KC for a game next season and would like to meet all of ya'll. BTW have you ever sold a German car? I own an 03 Merc. S-500 and put it in the trader as well as the Atlanta paper three wks. ago and have only received two calls on it. Is this normal? Or did I overprice. It's not like it is a GM or something so I expected at the tier it is priced, I'd get little activity. I just hope that one of these prospective buyers are serious...

I've never even owned a German car. I've advertised cars in the newspaper and never gotten a call. Then I put one in my mother's weekly work newsletter and sold it to a women who saw it there a couple days later. I've been advertising my truck on craigslist for 3 months and have had only one lowballer come to see it (or even call). I think if the price is right you'll find a buyer. I just don't want to drop the price on my truck yet. I don't even really want to sell the truck - I like it too much.

Simply Red
03-30-2007, 11:10 PM
I've never even owned a German car. I've advertised cars in the newspaper and never gotten a call. Then I put one in my mother's weekly work newsletter and sold it to a women who saw it there a couple days later. I've been advertising my truck on craigslist for 3 months and have had only one lowballer come to see it (or even call). I think if the price is right you'll find a buyer. I just don't want to drop the price on my truck yet. I don't even really want to sell the truck - I like it too much.

I clearly mixed you up with Rainman (it could be worse.) But anyway thanks for the info. I'm crashing and will connect with you (amongst others) when I come to KC for a game next season.

crazycoffey
03-30-2007, 11:11 PM
yeah, time for me to crash too, see you both later.

Ozarks-Chiefs-Fan
03-31-2007, 05:52 AM
CAO Mx2 is a great smoke that is reasonably priced.

Simply Red
03-31-2007, 06:07 AM
CAO Mx2 is a great smoke that is reasonably priced.
Had them, yes they aren't bad.

Saggysack
03-31-2007, 06:22 AM
Right now, Sauza Tres Generaciones are my favorite. Reasonably priced at about $10

StcChief
03-31-2007, 06:42 AM
Upman.

We get some good
Estate (aka No name) Domincan's Robusto rejects $1.
wrapper flaw, never had one open or burn wrong.

boogblaster
03-31-2007, 08:29 AM
My bro used to order cigars from Tampa..they were Cuban tobacco from Hondurus I think..Thompson Tobacco Co....

KCTitus
03-31-2007, 08:57 AM
Arturo Fuente Hemingway...there is no substitute.

Dominican Cigars are just as good as the cubans. I've smoked Honduran, Dominican and Cuban and, to me, they're all pretty much the same. For the money, however, Arturo Fuente is the best of the bunch. Hard to get too.

Mr. Laz
03-31-2007, 09:54 AM
Cigar Aficionados?
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Fire Me Boy!
03-31-2007, 09:55 AM
I've had quite a few Cuban cigars -- used to have a very good friend that went to Mexico every summer. Cohibas were not even close to my favorites... hands down, the best cigar I've ever been near was H. Upmann... I would give a nut for another one of those things! The flavor was unbeatable. Every cigar since then has paled in comparison.

In retrospect, the Cohibas were good, but nothing terribly special. For the money, a good cigar shop has things that are better.

Fire Me Boy!
03-31-2007, 09:58 AM
Out of curiosity, what is everyone's preferred method of cutting?

I like a good double-blade cutter, but my favorite is a Magnum .44 bullet cutter.

crazycoffey
03-31-2007, 10:04 AM
In retrospect, the Cohibas were good, but nothing terribly special. For the money, a good cigar shop has things that are better.

Agree, and H. Upmann is on my list of cubans to try, I'll bring this thread back up when I eventually get one.....



to your other question, I prefer a punch on all my cigars (I have a two flame torch with a punch on the bottom) but with torpedo cigars I have a cheapy two blade cutter.

crazycoffey
03-31-2007, 10:05 AM
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/6761/monicalewicount11709608ix4.jpg


she never smoked one........ only helped with the rolling.....

Fire Me Boy!
03-31-2007, 10:16 AM
Agree, and H. Upmann is on my list of cubans to try, I'll bring this thread back up when I eventually get one.....



to your other question, I prefer a punch on all my cigars (I have a two flame torch with a punch on the bottom) but with torpedo cigars I have a cheapy two blade cutter.
I don't care for the punches because it bunches the tobacco up in the end... that's why I like my bullet, very neatly cuts a 1/4-inch hole in the wrapper.

Are you just now getting into smoking cigars? If so, you should know that those torches wreak havoc on the flavor of your tobacco... it burns the tobacco too quickly. You want a nice roast on the end. The flame of your lighter should actually never touch the cigar (wood matches are the best, but if you can't get the matches go with a butane light over a Zippo -- the zippo lighter fluid flavors the tobacco).

The best way I've found... light your match and place the flame about 1/2-inch below the cigar. Then slowly roll the cigar in your fingers to evenly start the end roasting -- you're not puffing on the cigar yet... just rolling the cigar in the heat. It'll start to smoke a little... then you can start puffing gently, but KEEP ROLLING THE CIGAR. When the flame starts jumping from the lighter to the cigar you're just about done. Keep doing this until you've got an even burn. The key to the even burn is continually rolling and not letting the flame from the lighter touch the cigar.

Some notes about the ash... it's generally bad form to tap the ash off. You're "supposed" to let it fall off by itself. I heard someone say it helps the embers from burning too hot and making the cigar overburn. Also, I've noticed that the better the cigar the darker the ash... I don't know if that's scientific, just something I've noticed.

Fire Me Boy!
03-31-2007, 10:26 AM
Sorry... just read the rest of the thread and realized you aren't new to cigars. Well, maybe this'll help those who are new!

bdeg
03-31-2007, 10:27 AM
Thanks. It has.

crazycoffey
03-31-2007, 05:52 PM
I don't care for the punches because it bunches the tobacco up in the end... that's why I like my bullet, very neatly cuts a 1/4-inch hole in the wrapper.

Are you just now getting into smoking cigars? If so, you should know that those torches wreak havoc on the flavor of your tobacco... it burns the tobacco too quickly. You want a nice roast on the end. The flame of your lighter should actually never touch the cigar (wood matches are the best, but if you can't get the matches go with a butane light over a Zippo -- the zippo lighter fluid flavors the tobacco).

The best way I've found... light your match and place the flame about 1/2-inch below the cigar. Then slowly roll the cigar in your fingers to evenly start the end roasting -- you're not puffing on the cigar yet... just rolling the cigar in the heat. It'll start to smoke a little... then you can start puffing gently, but KEEP ROLLING THE CIGAR. When the flame starts jumping from the lighter to the cigar you're just about done. Keep doing this until you've got an even burn. The key to the even burn is continually rolling and not letting the flame from the lighter touch the cigar.

Some notes about the ash... it's generally bad form to tap the ash off. You're "supposed" to let it fall off by itself. I heard someone say it helps the embers from burning too hot and making the cigar overburn. Also, I've noticed that the better the cigar the darker the ash... I don't know if that's scientific, just something I've noticed.




No sweat, good information. I use the punch to do the same thing, just get through the wrapper a small hole. With the torch I don't let the flame touch and I don't puff while it lites, just toast it up for a few seconds to get the ember started and then get a puff on it.

I heard/read somewhere that churchill would put a paper clip (straightened out) in the end of his cigars so the ash wouldn't fall off, it was also seen as a sign of social strength or "my penis is larger than yours" type macho stuff.

the Talking Can
03-31-2007, 06:11 PM
I love cigars.

But I'm too high to talk right now.

Padron 3000 Maduro....solid.
Ashton Maduro...special occasion, uber-awesome cuban-like power with no hard edges...mmm

http://cigars.about.com/od/reviewsratings1/fr/ashtoncigar.htm
Flavor

This is a full flavored cigar, but is extremely smooth and not overpowering by any means. This is a good cigar to use as an example when distinguishing the difference between strength and flavor. Flavor is all the good things that you taste when smoking, such as sweetness, spices, etc., while strength has more to do with the kick or power of the cigar attributed to its tar and nicotine content. Sometimes, these two attributes go hand in hand, but in the more expensive premium cigars, it is possible to get maximum flavor without the strong kick, and without leaving you with a funny feeling in your stomach nor a bad taste in your mouth.

Cubans are way over rated. Personally, I think most Dominican and others are better. Much of the Cigar talent left Cuba.

And I like a bullet cut.

Fire Me Boy!
03-31-2007, 06:22 PM
Completely depends on the cigar, TC... like I said earlier, the Cohiba was overrated... the H. Upmann was not.

Halfcan
03-31-2007, 06:24 PM
I hate cigars and pipe smoke-makes me turn green and feel sick. Hard to believe that nasty shit is legal but weed is not.

crazycoffey
03-31-2007, 06:24 PM
Ashton Maduro...special occasion, uber-awesome cuban-like power with no hard edges...mmm

http://cigars.about.com/od/reviewsratings1/fr/ashtoncigar.htm




Ashton makes a darn good couple of cigars, I like their heritage and cabinets too.

the Talking Can
03-31-2007, 06:26 PM
Completely depends on the cigar, TC... like I said earlier, the Cohiba was overrated... the H. Upmann was not.


no, you're right, there are still great Cuban cigars....but for me it isn't worth the price or hassle...but I would never turn one away, hint hint...

the Talking Can
03-31-2007, 06:29 PM
Ashton makes a darn good couple of cigars, I like their heritage and cabinets too.

yeah, any Ashton is good...the Maduros use Connecticut grown wrappers, and they have incredible flavor....dang I'm jonesing now

Halfcan
03-31-2007, 06:32 PM
she never smoked one........ only helped with the rolling.....

Is that a stain on her dress??

crazycoffey
03-31-2007, 06:38 PM
yuck

KCFANinNC
03-31-2007, 07:58 PM
One of the best budget cigars are Consuegras from JR's.

They are Villazon factory 2nds. They make Punch, ERDM, Belinda, and a few others.

Less than a buck a piece you can not beat them.

CAO Extremes are the closest legal stuff i have smoked that are close to a cuban.



Most Cuban cigar's bought by tourist at ports are fakes btw.

Fire Me Boy!
03-31-2007, 08:31 PM
Most anything by CAO is outstanding.

crazycoffey
04-03-2007, 01:06 PM
I wish I could answer this. There is a particular cigar I get every time. It cost $10. and I get the same cigar everytime because the dude in the cigar shop recommended it and so I get it, every time. I know it sounds lame, but I go to the same place in the back, and get the same cigar. I LOVE THIS CIGAR AND HAVE TRIED MANY OTHERS. I WILL GET THE BRAND AND SHARE WITH YOU ON MONDAY.



Well, did you get the name?

I'm going to the shop to pick up a few toda after work, you have a few hours, if you can get me the name I would like to try your suggestion.

StcChief
04-03-2007, 01:29 PM
Check this...url for Cigar questions etc.

http://www.clubstogie.com/vb/archive/index.php/

BIG_DADDY
04-03-2007, 02:28 PM
Most anything by CAO is outstanding.

Their girls aren't bad either.

crazycoffey
04-03-2007, 04:20 PM
Nice picture, CAO I've had a few, Liked them. Was in the mood for something new.

Went for some Rocky Patels - 1999, that I've not tried before. Got a sungrown and Connecticut wrapper, two of each. I've been chewing on the connecticut for about an hour while I got some food ready and started an online tourney.

Just finished eating and going to poor a scotch and light this baby up......

crazycoffey
04-03-2007, 04:40 PM
So far, pretty good. Nice flavor, excellent draw. Has a rather mellow coffee taste, so I decided to have an Irish coffee to go with it.


Excellent desert, I might say...

BIG_DADDY
04-03-2007, 04:45 PM
Nice picture, CAO I've had a few, Liked them. Was in the mood for something new.

Went for some Rocky Patels - 1999, that I've not tried before. Got a sungrown and Connecticut wrapper, two of each. I've been chewing on the connecticut for about an hour while I got some food ready and started an online tourney.

Just finished eating and going to poor a scotch and light this baby up......

Yea the brunette was smoking. I like the RP's as well. Been smoking a lot of padron's lately.

crazycoffey
04-03-2007, 04:52 PM
Yea the brunette was smoking. I like the RP's as well. Been smoking a lot of padron's lately.

yeah, Padron is good, My good ol faithfull that I keep going back for is the Monticristo White, Churchill.

Speaking of RP's, have you tried their Edge? Very strong, if you like that type, I do sometimes..... Great strong dark wrapped smoke for about five bucks.

BIG_DADDY
04-03-2007, 05:00 PM
yeah, Padron is good, My good ol faithfull that I keep going back for is the Monticristo White, Churchill.

Speaking of RP's, have you tried their Edge? Very strong, if you like that type, I do sometimes..... Great strong dark wrapped smoke for about five bucks.

http://re3.mm-a4.yimg.com/image/2900572286 (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9gnMiV92hJG4TkAk2KJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBjZmpxdmw3BHBvcwM3BHNlYwNzcg--/SIG=1f0polsaq/EXP=1175727101/**http%3A//images.search.yahoo.com/search/images/view%3Fback=http%253A%252F%252Fimages.search.yahoo.com%252Fsearch%252Fimages%253Fp%253Drocky%252Bpat el%252Bedge%2526ei%253DUTF-8%2526fr%253Dyfp-t-501%2526x%253Dwrt%26w=100%26h=90%26imgurl=www.niceashcigars.com%252FImages%252FEdge.a1.jpg%26rurl=ht tp%253A%252F%252Fwww.niceashcigars.com%252FEdge.asp%26size=3.4kB%26name=Edge.a1.jpg%26p=rocky%2Bpate l%2Bedge%26type=jpeg%26no=7%26tt=42%26oid=4d29a13ce1a29a34%26ei=UTF-8)

Yea I like the Maduro wrapper. I really like a full bodied cigars. There was one by El Rico or something like that I brought back from the show and liked a lot.

The cigar I probably smoke the most is a Don Carlos #2

crazycoffey
04-03-2007, 05:04 PM
Yea I like the Maduro wrapper. I really like a full bodied cigars. There was one by El Rico or something like that I brought back from the show and liked a lot.

The cigar I probably smoke the most is a Don Carlos #2


haven't met Don Carlos or El Rico....... yet.

I like the maduro wrapper too, but not all the time. You should give the edge a try, sometime.


another strong one I got is the one I am saving for my first golf outing, the big La Gloria series R. Not a maduro, but a stout cigar none the less.

BIG_DADDY
04-03-2007, 05:17 PM
haven't met Don Carlos or El Rico....... yet.

I like the maduro wrapper too, but not all the time. You should give the edge a try, sometime.


another strong one I got is the one I am saving for my first golf outing, the big La Gloria series R. Not a maduro, but a stout cigar none the less.

I gotta pick up a box of Padron Magnum Maduro's again one of these days. Great value. Cigar is like 9 inches long too.

|Zach|
04-03-2007, 05:20 PM
My ol man is big into cigars...he is all about the Coheebah's (sp?)

Never tried it...I will give one a whirl one of these days.

BIG_DADDY
04-03-2007, 05:23 PM
My ol man is big into cigars...he is all about the Coheebah's (sp?)

Never tried it...I will give one a whirl one of these days.


Cohiba's, yea they're good. The Cuban Cohiba's are what I brought back from my last cruise.

the Talking Can
04-03-2007, 05:27 PM
I gotta pick up a box of Padron Magnum Maduro's again one of these days. Great value. Cigar is like 9 inches long too.

I bought that cigar for my dad for christmas...I smoke the Padron 3000 Maduro more than anything...I like that Padron has a looser draw than most...

smoked a Partagas black label recently and almost couldn't finish it, totally over powered me....you need to smoke more regularly to enjoy that....

BIG_DADDY
04-03-2007, 05:29 PM
I bought that cigar for my dad for christmas...I smoke the Padron 3000 Maduro more than anything...I like that Padron has a looser draw than most...

smoked a Partagas black label recently and almost couldn't finish it, totally over powered me....you need to smoke more regularly to enjoy that....


That Pardon packs a punch too. I've seen a lot of people turn green on those bad boys. ROFL

crazycoffey
04-03-2007, 05:31 PM
Cohiba's, yea they're good. The Cuban Cohiba's are what I brought back from my last cruise.


yup, I brought back two cohiba's and two Monticristo's from Mexico last month, the cohiba wasn't bad either.

crazycoffey
04-03-2007, 05:32 PM
That Pardon packs a punch too. I've seen a lot of people turn green on those bad boys. ROFL


I don't think I've tried that Padron, probably would have remembered it if it's that strong.

BIG_DADDY
04-03-2007, 05:43 PM
I don't think I've tried that Padron, probably would have remembered it if it's that strong.


Padron makes a lot of cigars. That's just a really big one that's a maduro. Their Anniversary series are my favorite cigars. This is their most recent.

http://www.padron.com/article.php

here is the magnum

http://www.padron.com/cigar_show.php?cigar=magnum

crazycoffey
05-02-2007, 01:29 PM
out on the porch with a just lit up rocky patel vintage 99, connecticut wrapper, nice. I can still smell the rain in the air, the weather is cool and calm, listening to some music and relaxing, life is so good sometimes....

crazycoffey
07-25-2007, 10:23 AM
I just found out about Cigar International, made an order for 6 brands and around 50 cigars. The process was pretty simple and the prices are better than the cigar shops. Just look for some of their deals.

But I am curious if anyone else has good or bad stories from ordering through the mail with CI or any other company

HonestChieffan
07-25-2007, 10:29 AM
Cigars smell so bad I cannot bring myself to smoking them.

Gonzo
07-25-2007, 10:33 AM
Don Thomas cigars are pretty good. I also like Habana Gold and Penatellas.

crazycoffey
07-25-2007, 10:41 AM
Cigars smell so bad I cannot bring myself to smoking them.



so much for pondering something new?

siberian khatru
07-25-2007, 10:43 AM
I just found out about Cigar International, made an order for 6 brands and around 50 cigars. The process was pretty simple and the prices are better than the cigar shops. Just look for some of their deals.

But I am curious if anyone else has good or bad stories from ordering through the mail with CI or any other company

I've been ordering from CI for about 5 years and have never had a problem.

crazycoffey
07-25-2007, 10:47 AM
I've been ordering from CI for about 5 years and have never had a problem.


Good to hear!
They seem to carry some good prices and I couldn't tell any defects on the cigars I got, including the five pack of Rocky Patels Rejects (I'm not above trying to save a few bucks...)

BIG_DADDY
07-25-2007, 11:02 AM
Had 4 Cigars this weekend

2 Cuban Monte Cristo's
1 Don Carlos #2
1 Padron 1926 Anniversary series

siberian khatru
07-25-2007, 11:03 AM
Good to hear!
They seem to carry some good prices and I couldn't tell any defects on the cigars I got, including the five pack of Rocky Patels Rejects (I'm not above trying to save a few bucks...)

I love rejects and seconds. They smoke just like the "good" sticks and you get great deals on them. That's what I use to stock the bottom of my humidor with everyday smokes, then I fill in the top with a few select ones that I buy at local cigar shops and smoke on special occasions, or when I just feel like treating myself (like after an especially good meal).

BIG_DADDY
07-25-2007, 11:05 AM
Not that anyone gives a Rats Ass but:

ACTION ALERT FOR CIGAR SMOKERS

TO OUR CUSTOMERS....Sorry for another e-mail however Congress is proposing a huge increase in Cigar Excise Taxes...Please take time to read this e-mail and act now!!!

The Finance Committee of the United States Senate is proposing an expansion of the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) solely through higher tobacco taxes that will have a draconian impact on the cigar industry.

Under the current proposal, the large cigar tax rate would increase 156.4% (from 20.719% to 53.13% of the manufacturer’s selling price) and the current tax cap of around $0.05 per cigar would increase an astounding 20,413% to $10 per cigar. All large cigars would effectively be taxed at 53.13% of the manufacturer’s selling price. In all of the Internal Revenue Code, no other product is subject to an excise tax that approaches this level. The little cigar tax would increase 2,635% – to $1,828 per 1,000 to $50 per 1,000. To compound the injury, a floor stocks tax would be assessed on all products in inventory.

The full Senate is expected to consider the legislation next week, but possibly sooner. We need you to act now and immediately contact your U.S. Senators. A consumer should only contact his own Senators because Senators are most responsive to their own constituents.

Call, fax or e-mail the offices of your own U.S. Senators, give them your name and address and ask that they vote to oppose the punitively high cigar tax increases in the State Children’s Health Insurance Program legislation.

BELOW IS THE LIST OF SENTATORS BY STATE...please take the time to call or write your Senators!!!

Thanks for your help in protecting all of our rights.

Mark and Dave and your Friends at

www.bighumidor.com



List of United States Senators Office Phone Numbers

Alabama
Sen. Richard C. Shelby 202-224-5744
Sen. Jeff Sessions 202-224-4124

Alaska
Sen. Ted Stevens 202-224-3004
Sen. Lisa Murkowski 202-224-6665

Arizona
Sen. John McCain 202-224-2235
Sen. Jon L. Kyl 202-224-4521

Arkansas
Sen. Blanche L. Lincoln 202-224-4843
Sen. Mark Pryor 202-224-2353

California
Sen. Dianne Feinstein 202-224-3841
Sen. Barbara Boxer 202-224-3553

Colorado
Sen. Wayne Allard 202-224-5941
Sen. Ken Salazar 202-224-5852

Connecticut
Sen. Christopher J. Dodd 202-224-2823
Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman 202-224-4041

Delaware
Sen. Joseph R. Biden, Jr. 202-224-5042
Sen. Thomas R. Carper 202-224-2441

Florida
Sen. Bill Nelson 202-224-5274
Sen. Mel Martinez 202-224-3041

Georgia
Sen. Saxby Chambliss 202-224-3521
Sen. Johnny Isakson 202-224-3643

Hawaii
Sen. Daniel K. Inouye 202-224-3934
Sen. Daniel K. Akaka 202-224-6361

Idaho
Sen. Larry E. Craig 202-224-2752
Sen. Mike Crapo 202-224-6142

Illinois
Sen. Richard J. Durbin 202-224-2152
Sen. Barack Obama 202-224-2854

Indiana
Sen. Richard G. Lugar 202-224-4814
Sen. Evan Bayh 202-224-5623

Iowa
Sen. Charles E. Grassley 202-224-3744
Sen. Tom Harkin 202-224-3254

Kansas
Sen. Sam Brownback 202-224-6521
Sen. Pat Roberts 202-224-4774

Kentucky
Sen. Mitch McConnell 202-224-2541
Sen. Jim Bunning 202-224-4343

Louisiana
Sen. Mary Landrieu 202-224-5824
Sen. David Vitter 202-224-4623

Maine
Sen. Olympia J. Snowe 202-224-5344
Sen. Susan M. Collins 202-224-2523

Maryland
Sen. Barbara A. Mikulski 202-224-4654
Sen. Benjamin L. Cardin 202-224-4524

Massachusetts
Sen. Edward M. Kennedy 202-224-4543
Sen. John F. Kerry 202-224-2742

Michigan
Sen. Carl Levin 202-224-6221
Sen. Debbie A. Stabenow 202-224-4822

Minnesota
Sen. Norm Coleman 202-224-5641
Sen. Amy Klobuchar 202-224-3244

Mississippi
Sen. Thad Cochran 202-224-5054
Sen. Trent Lott 202-224-6253

Missouri
Sen. Christopher S. "Kit" Bond 202-224-5721
Sen. Claire C. McCaskill 202-224-6154

Montana
Sen. Max Baucus 202-224-2651
Sen. Jon Tester 202-224-2644

Nebraska
Sen. Chuck Hagel 202-224-4224
Sen. Ben Nelson 202-224-6551

Nevada
Sen. Harry Reid 202-224-3542
Sen. John Ensign 202-224-6244

New Hampshire
Sen. Judd Gregg 202-224-3324
Sen. John E. Sununu 202-224-2841

New Jersey
Sen. Frank R. Lautenberg 202-224-3224
Sen. Robert Menendez 202-224-4744

New Mexico
Sen. Pete V. Domenici 202-224-6621
Sen. Jeff Bingaman 202-224-5521

New York
Sen. Charles E. Schumer 202-224-6542
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton 202-224-4451

North Carolina
Sen. Elizabeth Dole 202-224-6342
Sen. Richard Burr 202-224-3154

North Dakota
Sen. Kent Conrad 202-224-2043
Sen. Byron L. Dorgan 202-224-2551

Ohio
Sen. George V. Voinovich 202-224-3353
Sen. Sherrod Brown 202-224-2315

Oklahoma
Sen. James M. Inhofe 202-224-4721
Sen. Tom Coburn 202-224-5754

Oregon
Sen. Ron Wyden 202-224-5244
Sen. Gordon Smith 202-224-3753

Pennsylvania
Sen. Arlen Specter 202-224-4254
Sen. Robert P. Casey, Jr. 202-224-6324

Rhode Island
Sen. Jack Reed 202-224-4642
Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse 202-224-2921

South Carolina
Sen. Lindsey O. Graham 202-224-5972
Sen. Jim DeMint 202-224-6121

South Dakota
Sen. Tim Johnson 202-224-5842
Sen. John R. Thune 202-224-2321

Tennessee
Sen. Lamar Alexander 202-224-4944
Sen. Bob Corker 202-224-3344

Texas
Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison 202-224-5922
Sen. John Cornyn 202-224-2934

Utah
Sen. Orrin G. Hatch 202-224-5251
Sen. Robert Bennett 202-224-5444

Vermont
Sen. Patrick J. Leahy 202-224-4242
Sen. Bernard Sanders 202-224-5141

Virginia
Sen. John W. Warner 202-224-2023
Sen. James Webb 202-224-4024

Washington
Sen. Patty Murray 202-224-2621
Sen. Maria Cantwell 202-224-3441

West Virginia
Sen. Robert C. Byrd 202-224-3954
Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV 202-224-6472

Wisconsin
Sen. Herbert H. Kohl 202-224-5653
Sen. Russ Feingold 202-224-5323

Wyoming
Sen. Craig Thomas 202-224-6441
Sen. Michael B. Enzi 202-224-3424

Fire Me Boy!
07-25-2007, 11:07 AM
I used to order from CI all the time. Good place.

crazycoffey
07-25-2007, 07:09 PM
I used to order from CI all the time. Good place.



OK, Great to hear!
so that's two for the "good" stories and zero for "Bad"