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theultimatekcchiefsfan
04-02-2007, 09:45 PM
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50 Things She Wishes You Knew
Universal truths that all men should--but don't--understand
Illustrations by: Juliette Borda, By: Lisa Jones

1. Saying "I love you" immediately before, during, or following sex doesn't count.



2. Real men drive stick shift.



3. I will leave if you lie.



4. You are cute in raglan-sleeved T-shirts (two-toned baseball undershirts).



5. I'm convinced I'm pregnant and obsess about it for a minimum of 24 to 48 hours before my period, even when I have no rational reason to think so.



6. I love it when you hug me from behind and whisper in my ear.



7. "Fine" is never an appropriate response when I ask you how I look.



8. Most of the time when I fantasize, it's about you.



9. I'm terrified of becoming my mother, even though I admire her.



10. I get turned on simply seeing that I have an e-mail from you.



11. I expect you to call me.



12. Only rock stars are allowed to wear leather pants.



13. I'm scared of losing my independence.



14. I'm more forgiving of you than I really should be.



15. Oral sex is your get-out-of-the-doghouse-free card. Manolo Blahnik shoes also do the trick.



16. You did something bad. I seem cool with it. I'm not. (See directly above.)



17. If I'm not having sex with you, I'm... a. ...having a fat day. b. ...not feeling "connected" to you. c. ...blackmailing you to get something I want.



18. Shoes determine whether you're fashionable or not.



19. I own a Debbie Gibson CD, and I'm not afraid to use it.



20. When I compare my flabby tummy to a kangaroo pouch, say nothing.



21. A man I love plans the occasional fancy-schmancy dress-up date and impromptu weekend getaways, and he buys my favorite candy in advance when we're just going to the movies.



22. You look hot in hooded clothing items.



23. You should never tell me what to do.



24. If I slept over, you owe me breakfast.



25. My breasts love much licking and sucking.



26. If you ask me out directly, I will say yes.



27. I'm very impressed when you ask for my advice.



28. I'm unimpressed with a man who doesn't take the lead.



29. When in doubt, go with the shirt that matches your eye color.



30. I want to be Madonna.



31. Women get urinary-tract infections easily, so watch (and wash) your fingers.



32. I'm in heaven when you hold my hand.



33. You're sexy when you're shaving, fixing things, wearing a white T-shirt and jeans, driving, eating a peach, holding a baby.



34. I need to hear how you feel about me. Often. Tell me now.



35. Surprises, especially gifts for moi = more loving.



36. I want to be the best thing that ever happened to you--and for you to recognize this.



37. If I'm not feeling loved, I will start looking....



38. Discussion of ex-gf's and ex-bf's should be avoided at all times.



39. I like it when you tell me what you're thinking, even if you don't know yourself.



40. Celebrating our anniversary, even if it's only been a few months, earns major bonus points.



41. I love it when you're sweaty.



42. It's best to consult your gal pals for gift ideas.



43. A lady should always be greeted with kisses.



44. I like porn.



45. I love holding your bum in the palms of my hands.



46. Even nice girls like hushed dirty talk in public.



47. It's cheating as soon as you're doing something with her that you wouldn't want me to see, hear, read...



48. For the record: I'd rather you break up with me than cheat.



49. I remember everything about our relationship.



50. You should know all this and more with-out my telling you.




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Baconeater
04-02-2007, 11:09 PM
I lost interest somewhere in the 20's.

Sam Hall
04-02-2007, 11:12 PM
My thoughts and feelings are all that matters.

Baconeater
04-02-2007, 11:15 PM
My thoughts and feelings are all that matters.
:hmmm: I'd suggest NOT getting married then. Or even having a girlfriend. Just stick with hookers.

Sam Hall
04-02-2007, 11:17 PM
:hmmm: I'd suggest NOT getting married then. Or even having a girlfriend. Just stick with hookers.

I march to my own drum...for now.

milkman
04-02-2007, 11:25 PM
I lost interest somewhere in the 20's.

You got further along than I did.

Psyko Tek
04-02-2007, 11:46 PM
Women should really hope we give a shit

had the same one for 8 or so years she keeps telling me this stuff and I keep not worryin' about it

Halfcan
04-03-2007, 01:23 AM
51- Chicks like the Shocker!

Halfcan
04-03-2007, 01:23 AM
but you have to act like it was an accident and pretend with them that it was the first time someone did it to them.

luv
04-03-2007, 01:27 AM
#6. Oh yeah!

BigMeatballDave
04-03-2007, 01:55 AM
Why do women need 50 of these for us to remember? Our is simple. Feed me, f**k me, shut the **** up!

CoMoChief
04-03-2007, 03:21 AM
I can count just about 40 of those that don't make any sense.

SPchief
04-03-2007, 03:29 AM
Why do women need 50 of these for us to remember? Our is simple. Feed me, f**k me, shut the **** up!


ding ding ding

luv
04-03-2007, 03:32 AM
Women are very complex creatures....we have layers. Like onions.

SPchief
04-03-2007, 03:35 AM
Women are very complex creatures....we have layers. Like onions.


Which is why women are so ****ed up.

luv
04-03-2007, 03:39 AM
Which is why women are so ****ed up.
So I'm not the only one? Thank goodness!

Fruit Ninja
04-03-2007, 03:50 AM
zzzzzzz

CrazyHorse
04-03-2007, 07:10 AM
The list is flawed.

Everyone knows that a woman with a "kangaroo pouch", doesn't like porn.

Lzen
04-03-2007, 08:53 AM
I think a lot of those are probably true. But some of them I would guess depend a lot on the woman in question. I do know that a lot of those are true with my wife. :) Of course, I don't need a stupid list to tell me that.

Rooster
04-03-2007, 08:58 AM
I lost interest somewhere in the 20's.

You got twice as far as I did.

PunkinDrublic
04-03-2007, 09:04 AM
One thing women need to remember, once a guy realizes their is other poon to be had with less hassel, and no bitching and complaining she loses her power.

Fish
04-03-2007, 09:06 AM
If a woman expects me to remember 50 rules when dealing with her just so I don't disturb the delicate fragility that is her emotional state... well... No thanks...

Where are all the ol fashioned country girls?

Bowser
04-03-2007, 09:09 AM
#52 - I will change emotions at the drop of a hat for no good reason, and you are expected to be good with this while asking no questions.

jidar
04-03-2007, 09:14 AM
I got to 4 and didn't know what the **** shirt it was talking about, and still didn't know when I read the explanation in parentheses. **** that list, it's for fags.

StcChief
04-03-2007, 09:29 AM
Glad they aren't all princess expecting everything

Donger
04-03-2007, 09:49 AM
#41 is needs more qualification.

jidar
04-03-2007, 09:53 AM
bitches aint shit but hoes and tricks

Iowanian
04-03-2007, 10:01 AM
Man rule #7.
When you're being unreasonable and bitchy for no reason, I'm mowing the yard and going fishing after work.

Man rule #8. I said I'll be back later...that means at some point after *now*, when I'm done with whatever it is I'm doing.

Lzen
04-03-2007, 10:04 AM
bitches aint shit but hoes and tricks

Says the guy that will most likely die old and alone.

Donger
04-03-2007, 10:12 AM
I learned a new rule last night. Apparently, when I've been watching the Military Channel for hours on end, I'm not to be spoken to, children included.

I didn't even realize I did that.

jidar
04-03-2007, 10:36 AM
Says the guy that will most likely die old and alone.


11 years of marriage

Iowanian
04-03-2007, 10:43 AM
Here is rule 9 for women.

If we've listened to the story of your day for 2 minutes and any of it involves "and then she said".....We're thinking about something else and I'm just nodding as a primal instinct, its time for you to start dinner

Brock
04-03-2007, 10:45 AM
Says the guy that will most likely die old and alone.

What's wrong with that?

chasedude
04-03-2007, 11:10 AM
Says the guy that will most likely die old and alone.
.... and happy?? :thumb:

vailpass
04-03-2007, 11:13 AM
GHEY

Lzen
04-03-2007, 11:30 AM
11 years of marriage

Then I will assume that you were trying to be funny. :hmmm:

Lzen
04-03-2007, 11:31 AM
I learned a new rule last night. Apparently, when I've been watching the Military Channel for hours on end, I'm not to be spoken to, children included.

I didn't even realize I did that.

Huh??

luv
04-03-2007, 11:49 AM
#41 is needs more qualification.
No it doesn't.

Iowanian
04-03-2007, 11:52 AM
If Most women knew jack shat about men, they'd know that our attention span is interested in seeing about 10 rules. The fact that women have this many secret rules should tell them(if they were logical beings) that they are too effing complicated and need to downsize some of their middle management issues and streamline their thought process to make them easier in which to do business.

luv
04-03-2007, 11:56 AM
If Most women knew jack shat about men, they'd know that our attention span is interested in seeing about 10 rules. The fact that women have this many secret rules should tell them(if they were logical beings) that they are too effing complicated and need to downsize some of their middle management issues and streamline their thought process to make them easier in which to do business.
Most of them are givens. WTF is up with #10? Weird. And a majority of the rules have zero merit and are strictly stereotypical. Shoes will not get you a get-out-of-the-doghouse-free card. That's what roses are for. :)

Iowanian
04-03-2007, 11:59 AM
Luv,

You're the perfect example of a lady that doesn't even know what you want, yet you expect men to miracle their ass over the obstacle of the shortcircuit in the brainpan of the female species.

A man should never buy roses to make a woman feel better about something he's not guilty of in the first place. It only encourages poor behavior in the future. Its not unlike giving a kid candy for shitting on the carpet. (There are times when we aren't guilty but some other source does make this a viable option).

htismaqe
04-03-2007, 12:02 PM
Its not unlike giving a kid candy for shitting on the carpet.

ROFL

htismaqe
04-03-2007, 12:02 PM
I learned a new rule last night. Apparently, when I've been watching the Military Channel for hours on end, I'm not to be spoken to, children included.

I didn't even realize I did that.

What? Do you just spontaneously erupt into R. Lee Ermey-isms?

luv
04-03-2007, 12:03 PM
Luv,

You're the perfect example of a lady that doesn't even know what you want, yet you expect men to miracle their ass over the obstacle of the shortcircuit in the brainpan of the female species.

A man should never buy roses to make a woman feel better about something he's not guilty of in the first place. It only encourages poor behavior in the future. Its not unlike giving a kid candy for shitting on the carpet.
Funny, I assumed the get-out-of-the-doghouse-free card meant that he had done something. Why else would he want to get out of the doghouse?

And I agree with you. While it's nice to get roses for no reason, buying things for each other will not resolve any issues you might have.

keg in kc
04-03-2007, 12:08 PM
Most of the list is common-sense, but it'd be nice if we'd promote the idea of cooperation rather than just focus on what men need to do for women, or women need to do for men. It's about working together. You don't do that, then what's the point.

Iowanian
04-03-2007, 12:08 PM
There is a difference between "doing something nice for no reason" and "buying flowers because a woman is being salty for no reason". All men should stop encouraging poor behavior like this by telling those needy broads to take a flying leap, until they find themselves living in a duplex with halfcan.

It would all be easier for everyone if women would trim the list(along with that overgrown beaver we're suppose to be appologising on) and become a more logical species as a whole.

Men can OFTEN(not in my case) find themselves in trouble with their lady for no particular reason.....Some women have an arguement with you about something in a dream, and you're an asshole the entire next day.

He didn't do it....stop bitching at him about the dream-state cheating he did in your dream and leave him alone.....Bring the nice man a cool beer and sit quietly, with your arms wrapped around his arm......the new season of Deadliest Catch is on, and your man is busy.

Since we're an equal opportunity society.....I assume women will begin to reciprocate on their "get out of jail free" hummers every time we get pissed at them?

All female appologies to your man should sound like this....

"Honey, I'm sorrr mmff mmggmmmmfff mmmfffff mmmmdgmmgfffff"

Donger
04-03-2007, 12:09 PM
Huh??

Apparently, when I'm in a really terrible mood, I turn on the Military Channel, as I was last night. It would seem my family knows not to bother me if that happens.

Donger
04-03-2007, 12:11 PM
No it doesn't.

Then you're an exception. I've known very few women that don't differentiate between "sweaty from working out" and "sweaty from working in the yard for five hours."

luv
04-03-2007, 12:17 PM
Then you're an exception. I've known very few women that don't differentiate between "sweaty from working out" and "sweaty from working in the yard for five hours."
There is a difference between sweaty and sweat + dirty.

Redrum_69
04-03-2007, 12:18 PM
Buying shoes/candy/flowers to make up for things done to women is clearly bullshit.

Next time you piss off youre ol lady..slap her on the ass, tell her to go make a sandwich naked, then get to the bedroom.


like that song that plays on 98.9 "The three be's...Be pretty, Be naked, and Be quiet"


Always remember that handcuffs were made for women...so were ball gags, saran wrap, and duct tape.

htismaqe
04-03-2007, 12:21 PM
Funny, I assumed the get-out-of-the-doghouse-free card meant that he had done something. Why else would he want to get out of the doghouse?

And I agree with you. While it's nice to get roses for no reason, buying things for each other will not resolve any issues you might have.

Buying ANYTHING for a woman as a spontaneous "gift" is a BIG no-no.

Buying her something when she doesn't expect it is classified as "romance" and creates an expectation that it will be a frequent occurence.

That expectation, in and of itself, prevents her from being surprised ever again.

EDIT: Think of it like cocaine. The first time you bring her flowers unexpectedly, she just about has an orgasm just from seeing them. The FIFTH time you bring them home, she can barely muster the energy to mumble "I suppose this means you want sex."

luv
04-03-2007, 12:25 PM
Buying ANYTHING for a woman as a spontaneous "gift" is a BIG no-no.

Buying her something when she doesn't expect it is classified as "romance" and creates an expectation that it will be a frequent occurence.

That expectation, in and of itself, prevents her from being surprised ever again.
Man, am I in trouble then. I'm the type that will buy the card or little trinket that reminds me of someone to give to them just because. I hope they dont come to expect it all the time. I'm not made of money.

And maybe I mispoke in say "for no reason". I'll but little things and hold onto them until someone seems to be down on their luck or something. It's kind of a pick-me-up to help them smile and know I've thought of them.

Phobia
04-03-2007, 12:27 PM
I see a lot of posturing on this thread and that's fine. I used to feel the same way as you and I thought I had a great marriage. It turns out I was kidding myself. Women have emotional needs that aren't logical to men. If we cater to these needs it doesn't make us less of a man... it just means that we get laid more frequently by a woman who is doing it because she's really into it rather than as some sense of obligation to appease our sexual needs. I've been doing a few of the things which appear on this list in recent weeks and my home life and bedroom life has never been better. I highly suggest you try it too - along with calling her in the middle of the day for no reason other than to see how she's doing and tell her how you feel. That's your real "get out of jail free card".

I don't feel like any less of a man for it - in fact, I feel like a frick'n stallion.

htismaqe
04-03-2007, 12:30 PM
Man, am I in trouble then. I'm the type that will buy the card or little trinket that reminds me of someone to give to them just because. I hope they dont come to expect it all the time. I'm not made of money.

And maybe I mispoke in say "for no reason". I'll but little things and hold onto them until someone seems to be down on their luck or something. It's kind of a pick-me-up to help them smile and know I've thought of them.

Well, I'm assuming that you would be getting those things for a man, and if so, that's quite different. When it comes to romance, men have far different levels of expectation.

htismaqe
04-03-2007, 12:34 PM
I see a lot of posturing on this thread and that's fine. I used to feel the same way as you and I thought I had a great marriage. It turns out I was kidding myself. Women have emotional needs that aren't logical to men. If we cater to these needs it doesn't make us less of a man... it just means that we get laid more frequently by a woman who is doing it because she's really into it rather than as some sense of obligation to appease our sexual needs. I've been doing a few of the things which appear on this list in recent weeks and my home life and bedroom life has never been better. I highly suggest you try it too - along with calling her in the middle of the day for no reason other than to see how she's doing and tell her how you feel. That's your real "get out of jail free card".

I don't feel like any less of a man for it - in fact, I feel like a frick'n stallion.

#6 is solid advice.

#35 is not.

Spontaneous actions are definitely good. A whisper here, a soft kiss there. But these little spontaneities should NEVER be purchased.

Redrum_69
04-03-2007, 12:35 PM
Well, I'm assuming that you would be getting those things for a man, and if so, that's quite different.



um, unless we havent heard about luvs lesbian side

Iowanian
04-03-2007, 12:42 PM
Uh oh.....Phobia got Oprah'd.

Phobia
04-03-2007, 12:51 PM
#6 is solid advice.

#35 is not.

Spontaneous actions are definitely good. A whisper here, a soft kiss there. But these little spontaneities should NEVER be purchased.
I don't think anybody is suggesting you bust out for diamond earrings as a spontaneous action. That could definitely ruin your wife. But I would advise that husbands buy little things.... for instance, my wife likes the Burt's Bees chapstick. You wouldn't believe the reaction I get when I pickup something small like that for her. Pickup her favorite Sonic shake on the way home from work. Send her an E-card (free). You don't have to break the bank, the whole point of gifts is so that she knows you're thinking about her at times when you're not obligated to do so.

If Oprah deserves credit for what is going on in my marriage then I'll gladly step up and say I got "Oprahed". I haven't had things this good since before marriage.

However, I don't think it had anything to do with Oprah or even pressure from my wife. I finally realized that I'm a pretty selfish guy and am taking steps to correct that in my life. It's working out pretty darn well. Our church really focuses strongly on marriages. The things that I've learned and put into action as a result of marriage classes and seminars have made all the difference.

keg in kc
04-03-2007, 01:04 PM
Text messages or e-mails work well, too. And it's just as great to receive them as it is to send them. Because, let's face it, we all like to know somebody's thinking about us. It shouldn't take Valentine's Day for us (men or women, either one) to buy a card, it shouldn't take a fight or a f*ck up to scare us into making a nice gesture every now and then.

Donger
04-03-2007, 01:04 PM
I don't think anybody is suggesting you bust out for diamond earrings as a spontaneous action. That could definitely ruin your wife. But I would advise that husbands buy little things.... for instance, my wife likes the Burt's Bees chapstick. You wouldn't believe the reaction I get when I pickup something small like that for her. Pickup her favorite Sonic shake on the way home from work. Send her an E-card (free). You don't have to break the bank, the whole point of gifts is so that she knows you're thinking about her at times when you're not obligated to do so.

If Oprah deserves credit for what is going on in my marriage then I'll gladly step up and say I got "Oprahed". I haven't had things this good since before marriage.

However, I don't think it had anything to do with Oprah or even pressure from my wife. I finally realized that I'm a pretty selfish guy and am taking steps to correct that in my life. It's working out pretty darn well. Our church really focuses strongly on marriages. The things that I've learned and put into action as a result of marriage classes and seminars have made all the difference.

Welcome to the Club de Pussification. Great, isn't it?

Donger
04-03-2007, 01:07 PM
There is a difference between sweaty and sweat + dirty.

That's why I said it needed qualification.

Phobia
04-03-2007, 01:11 PM
Welcome to the Club de Pussification. Great, isn't it?

We can call it anything we want to, the only thing that matters is that it works. My wife is happier than she's ever been and that makes me happy too.

bogie
04-03-2007, 01:19 PM
There is a difference between "doing something nice for no reason" and "buying flowers because a woman is being salty for no reason". All men should stop encouraging poor behavior like this by telling those needy broads to take a flying leap, until they find themselves living in a duplex with halfcan.

It would all be easier for everyone if women would trim the list(along with that overgrown beaver we're suppose to be appologising on) and become a more logical species as a whole.

Men can OFTEN(not in my case) find themselves in trouble with their lady for no particular reason.....Some women have an arguement with you about something in a dream, and you're an asshole the entire next day.

He didn't do it....stop bitching at him about the dream-state cheating he did in your dream and leave him alone.....Bring the nice man a cool beer and sit quietly, with your arms wrapped around his arm......the new season of Deadliest Catch is on, and your man is busy.

Since we're an equal opportunity society.....I assume women will begin to reciprocate on their "get out of jail free" hummers every time we get pissed at them?

All female appologies to your man should sound like this....

"Honey, I'm sorrr mmff mmggmmmmfff mmmfffff mmmmdgmmgfffff"

This is truely classic. You da' man! Words to live by. If we could only share this with the women.

Donger
04-03-2007, 01:20 PM
We can call it anything we want to, the only thing that matters is that it works. My wife is happier than she's ever been and that makes me happy too.

Pretty much the same here. I've never understood why making your wife happy is viewed as being somehow unmasculine. To me, it's the epitome of manhood.

Redrum_69
04-03-2007, 01:22 PM
Pretty much the same here. I've never understood why making your wife happy is viewed as being somehow unmasculine. To me, it's the epitome of manhood.



I thought giving your girlfriend/wife the shocker was the epitome of manhood


now i'm confused

luv
04-03-2007, 01:24 PM
Pretty much the same here. I've never understood why making your wife happy is viewed as being somehow unmasculine. To me, it's the epitome of manhood.
Careful. You and Phobia will ruin the locker room talk.

Donger
04-03-2007, 01:25 PM
I thought giving your girlfriend/wife the shocker was the epitome of manhood


now i'm confused

I've just never felt the need to treat my wife (or any woman for that matter) like a subordinate or a servant in order for me to feel like a man.

Phobia
04-03-2007, 01:26 PM
Pretty much the same here. I've never understood why making your wife happy is viewed as being somehow unmasculine. To me, it's the epitome of manhood.

We were taught it somehow. Probably our fathers. My parents are still married to this day, but as far as a role-model for appropriate husband-like behavior - he's missed the boat.

bogie
04-03-2007, 01:27 PM
Careful. You and Phobia will ruin the locker room talk.



ROFL ROFL Luv, you sound like you have men figured out. I'm afraid of you.

Redrum_69
04-03-2007, 01:27 PM
I've just never felt the need to treat my wife (or any woman for that matter) like a subordinate or a servant in order for me to feel like a man.


but what if they ask for it and you are just complying with their request


what if instead of candy and flowers...she'd rather have the kinkiest, dirtiest s-e-x imaginable

luv
04-03-2007, 01:28 PM
ROFL ROFL Luv, you sound like you have men figured out. I'm afraid of you.
Not even close. I don't even have myself figured out.

Redrum_69
04-03-2007, 01:28 PM
Careful. You and Phobia will ruin the locker room talk.


well...this is the Chiefs planet forum....

Phobia
04-03-2007, 01:28 PM
I've just never felt the need to treat my wife (or any woman for that matter) like a subordinate or a servant in order for me to feel like a man.

Well, you have the funky accent and dashing good-looks to your advantage. All I have is my massive package to reduce the women to quivering masses of submission.

Donger
04-03-2007, 01:29 PM
We were taught it somehow. Probably our fathers. My parents are still married to this day, but as far as a role-model for appropriate husband-like behavior - he's missed the boat.

Undoubtedly. My folks met when my father was 17 and my mother was 15, and they're still together, very happily. It's actually somewhat cute. They still hold hands everywhere they go.

Redrum_69
04-03-2007, 01:29 PM
Not even close. I don't even have myself figured out.



fighting.....urge.......to.....post......

bogie
04-03-2007, 01:29 PM
Nothing says I love you more than one Lilac sprig during Lilac season.

vailpass
04-03-2007, 01:30 PM
We can call it anything we want to, the only thing that matters is that it works. My wife is happier than she's ever been and that makes me happy too.

Yep and now that she's got you whipped she'll be receptive to the LL Cool J treatment..." I'm the kind of guy to leave my drawers in your hamper"

LMAO

Redrum_69
04-03-2007, 01:30 PM
Undoubtedly. My folks met when my father was 17 and my mother was 15, and they're still together, very happily. It's actually somewhat cute. They still hold hands everywhere they go.



Family bonds run thick in Arkansas...especially when its brother and sister...

Phobia
04-03-2007, 01:30 PM
but what if they ask for it and you are just complying with their request


what if instead of candy and flowers...she'd rather have the kinkiest, dirtiest s-e-x imaginable

I'd just like to point out that I've not bought my wife a single piece of candy or flowers. Her favorite choice at Starbucks costs less and goes further than candy or flowers.

Donger
04-03-2007, 01:30 PM
but what if they ask for it and you are just complying with their request


what if instead of candy and flowers...she'd rather have the kinkiest, dirtiest s-e-x imaginable

Every woman is different, I suppose. But, I've never met one with a decent mind who wants to be treated like a dog all the time.

keg in kc
04-03-2007, 01:32 PM
I'd just like to point out that I've not bought my wife a single piece of candy or flowers. Her favorite choice at Starbucks costs less and goes further than candy or flowers.Choco-sperm latte?

Phobia
04-03-2007, 01:33 PM
Not even close. I don't even have myself figured out.

Don't even try. When you stop trying to figure everything out and just go with the flow things fall into perspective. I don't have anything figured out and I have 7 or 8 years on you.

Redrum_69
04-03-2007, 01:33 PM
Every woman is different, I suppose. But, I've never met one with a decent mind who wants to be treated like a dog all the time.


so let me get this straight...are you saying youre civil? normal?


so if a guy who thinks about sex like every 15 seconds...or gawks at a hot blonde when his woman isnt around, or lusts after the co-ed in the cubicle next door...hes considered a dog?


I think you have a double standard issue

vailpass
04-03-2007, 01:33 PM
I'd just like to point out that I've not bought my wife a single piece of candy or flowers. Her favorite choice at Starbucks costs less and goes further than candy or flowers.

Do you wear a sexy french maid outfit with thigh highs and heels when you serve it to her?

Phobia
04-03-2007, 01:34 PM
Do you wear a sexy french maid outfit with thigh highs and heels when you serve it to her?

I haven't, but if that's what it took to make her happy I'd certainly consider it.... once.

Redrum_69
04-03-2007, 01:35 PM
Do you wear a sexy french maid outfit with thigh highs and heels when you serve it to her?


Only on nights when they play role reversal and she gives him a prostate exam with her fist

Donger
04-03-2007, 01:35 PM
I think you have a double standard issue

I think you have reading comprehension issues.

bogie
04-03-2007, 01:35 PM
Do you wear a sexy french maid outfit with thigh highs and heels when you serve it to her?


ROFL Somebody give me a beer and cigar. This is about to get fun.

luv
04-03-2007, 01:35 PM
I haven't, but if that's what it took to make her happy I'd certainly consider it.... once.
This thread is now worthless without pics.

keg in kc
04-03-2007, 01:37 PM
This thread is now worthless without pics.No, this thread is just fine without pics.

bogie
04-03-2007, 01:38 PM
No, this thread is just fine without pics.


ROFL

Redrum_69
04-03-2007, 01:38 PM
did you not say

"But, I've never met one with a decent mind who wants to be treated like a dog all the time."


so..my question to you...is what if you were married to someone who craved more sex than you could imagine, and always attacked her husband..in a good way...every time she seen him

and she was a nurse

and is more freakier than her husband


is that woman still considered to be treated like a dog?

Phobia
04-03-2007, 01:38 PM
This thread is now worthless without pics.
On second thought, there's nothing sexy about that at all. I'll pass.

luv
04-03-2007, 01:39 PM
No, this thread is just fine without pics.
Where's your sense of adventure?

Phobia
04-03-2007, 01:41 PM
On a serious note, I challenge all you manly men to pick up the phone right now and call your wife (or girl) - don't do anything else until you do. When she asks why you are calling, just say that you were thinking about her and wanted to see how her day is going - EVEN if you could care less. You're not doing it for you, you're doing it for her. Then listen to what she says without trying to fix anything. See what that does for your relationship. Try it sometime next week too.

Donger
04-03-2007, 01:42 PM
did you not say

"But, I've never met one with a decent mind who wants to be treated like a dog all the time."


so..my question to you...is what if you were married to someone who craved more sex than you could imagine, and always attacked her husband..in a good way...every time she seen him

and she was a nurse

and is more freakier than her husband


is that woman still considered to be treated like a dog?

No, by "treated like a dog all the time," I mean treating your wife/woman NOT the way they actually want to be treated. It has very little to do with sex.

vailpass
04-03-2007, 01:44 PM
I haven't, but if that's what it took to make her happy I'd certainly consider it.... once.

ROFL Oh behave!!

Phobia
04-03-2007, 01:45 PM
No, by "treated like a dog all the time," I mean treating your wife/woman NOT the way they actually want to be treated. It has very little to do with sex.
True, but quality sex could well be a by-product of it - as it has been in my relationship. I'm not treating my wife differently because I want sex. I'm doing it because I want a closer relationship. The sex part is the end-result - and I'm fine with that.

Donger
04-03-2007, 01:45 PM
On a serious note, I challenge all you manly men to pick up the phone right now and call your wife (or girl) - don't do anything else until you do. When she asks why you are calling, just say that you were thinking about her and wanted to see how her day is going - EVEN if you could care less. You're not doing it for you, you're doing it for her. Then listen to what she says without trying to fix anything. See what that does for your relationship. Try it sometime next week too.

And, to expand on that, if she says, "What's wrong with you?" you may want to reconsider your behavior.

vailpass
04-03-2007, 01:46 PM
On a serious note, I challenge all you manly men to pick up the phone right now and call your wife (or girl) - don't do anything else until you do. When she asks why you are calling, just say that you were thinking about her and wanted to see how her day is going - EVEN if you could care less. You're not doing it for you, you're doing it for her. Then listen to what she says without trying to fix anything. See what that does for your relationship. Try it sometime next week too.

You just now started doing that? Hell man, that's normal relationship stuff. Here I thought you were talking about a bunch of poofter behaivor.

Donger
04-03-2007, 01:48 PM
True, but quality sex could well be a by-product of it - as it has been in my relationship. I'm not treating my wife differently because I want sex. I'm doing it because I want a closer relationship. The sex part is the end-result - and I'm fine with that.

Indeed. One of my brothers treats his wife like shit and he's always bitching about how she never puts out. I've tried to explain the process to him, but he's a lost cause.

Phobia
04-03-2007, 01:48 PM
You just now started doing that? Hell man, that's normal relationship stuff. Here I thought you were talking about a bunch of poofter behaivor.
I think you'd be surprised how few of us men are programmed that way. Then we wonder why our women aren't happy.

It's not "normal" relationship stuff, it's normal HEALTHY relationship stuff.

Phobia
04-03-2007, 01:48 PM
Indeed. One of my brothers treats his wife like shit and he's always bitching about how she never puts out. I've tried to explain the process to him, but he's a lost cause.

Nah - the light will turn on for him one day - perhaps.

Iowanian
04-03-2007, 01:48 PM
I tried some of this out over the lunch hour......The wife was home when I went for lunch. As she put on her jacket to leave, I swaggered up behind her, gave her a hug from behind, really close at the pelvis and whispered sweet nothings.

She asked what in the hell that was for and what it meant.

I told her that I read on the internet today that this was to make her feel special, and I was pretty sure she was supposed to hit her knees and appologise for any past transgressions against me.

It didn't work.

Donger
04-03-2007, 01:49 PM
I tried some of this out over the lunch hour......The wife was home when I went for lunch. As she put on her jacket to leave, I swaggered up behind her, gave her a hug from behind, really close at the pelvis and whispered sweet nothings.

She asked what in the hell that was for and what it meant.

I told her that I read on the internet today that this was to make her feel special, and I was pretty sure she was supposed to hit her knees and appologise for any past transgressions against me.

It didn't work.

Your honor, Exhibit A.

Phobia
04-03-2007, 01:53 PM
I tried some of this out over the lunch hour......The wife was home when I went for lunch. As she put on her jacket to leave, I swaggered up behind her, gave her a hug from behind, really close at the pelvis and whispered sweet nothings.

She asked what in the hell that was for and what it meant.

I told her that I read on the internet today that this was to make her feel special, and I was pretty sure she was supposed to hit her knees and appologise for any past transgressions against me.

It didn't work.

You have a hard case, then. Maybe she used to be a he. Did you check inside for the butterflied and tucked penis prior to the nuptials?

Iowanian
04-03-2007, 01:55 PM
Pink has never been happier since Queer Eye got ahold of Phil and gave all of his flannel shirts to Goodwill.

I don't mean to sound sarcastic, but I have to admit, I'm terribly surprised that your lady friend is happy, since you've taken to kissing her behind.

What has she changed? Everything is your fault?

I'm all for bringing home the occasional scoop of chocolate-peanutbutter fudge in a waffle cone from the "good" icecream shop just to be nice.....but thats just part of being a good spouse.

Women just tend to make uncomplicated issues, complicated. It doesn't have to be difficult, this relationship stuff.

In any case, I'm glad things are going well. Its refreshing to hear the occasional "good story" of marraige, instead of just the "the landlord gave badgrannyanchorlady herpes and we're getting divorced"

Redrum_69
04-03-2007, 01:56 PM
Phobia...

Thank you...

I mean it.


I just called my wife and asked how things was going. Her reply "great, i'm picking up the two mail order brides from russia like you wanted. We'll be home waiting for you tongiht with supper made, lawn mowed, laundry done, and a cigar with a glass of cognac..just for you"

Baby Lee
04-03-2007, 01:56 PM
You have a hard case, then. Maybe she used to be a he. Did you check inside for the butterflied and tucked penis prior to the nuptials?
This Big Montana tastes like Keilbasa!!!

Phobia
04-03-2007, 01:59 PM
Pink has never been happier since Queer Eye got ahold of Phil and gave all of his flannel shirts to Goodwill.

I don't mean to sound sarcastic, but I have to admit, I'm terribly surprised that your lady friend is happy, since you've taken to kissing her behind.

What has she changed? Everything is your fault?

I'm all for bringing home the occasional scoop of chocolate-peanutbutter fudge in a waffle cone from the "good" icecream shop just to be nice.....but thats just part of being a good spouse.

Women just tend to make uncomplicated issues, complicated. It doesn't have to be difficult, this relationship stuff.

What has changed? Now she knows I care. My actions show it. Whereas before I was only concerned that I was getting a taste every other night. I'm probably a poor example though. I'm more self-centered than the averate guy. I needed some major re-programming - still do.

Phobia
04-03-2007, 02:00 PM
Phobia...

Thank you...

I mean it.


I just called my wife and asked how things was going. Her reply "great, i'm picking up the two mail order brides from russia like you wanted. We'll be home waiting for you tongiht with supper made, lawn mowed, laundry done, and a cigar with a glass of cognac..just for you"

Congratulations. That's outstanding. That will be $175. Send it via paypal, just like the last time.

htismaqe
04-03-2007, 02:00 PM
I don't think anybody is suggesting you bust out for diamond earrings as a spontaneous action. That could definitely ruin your wife. But I would advise that husbands buy little things.... for instance, my wife likes the Burt's Bees chapstick. You wouldn't believe the reaction I get when I pickup something small like that for her. Pickup her favorite Sonic shake on the way home from work. Send her an E-card (free). You don't have to break the bank, the whole point of gifts is so that she knows you're thinking about her at times when you're not obligated to do so.

If Oprah deserves credit for what is going on in my marriage then I'll gladly step up and say I got "Oprahed". I haven't had things this good since before marriage.

However, I don't think it had anything to do with Oprah or even pressure from my wife. I finally realized that I'm a pretty selfish guy and am taking steps to correct that in my life. It's working out pretty darn well. Our church really focuses strongly on marriages. The things that I've learned and put into action as a result of marriage classes and seminars have made all the difference.

Burt's Bees? ROFL

I was talking about roses, chocolates, cards, etc. :D

E-cards are PERFECT, you're absolutely right.

And I'd be careful with the Starbucks and Sonic shakes, you don't want to contribute to someone else's obesity. ;)

Phobia
04-03-2007, 02:03 PM
Burt's Bees? ROFL

I was talking about roses, chocolates, cards, etc. :D

E-cards are PERFECT, you're absolutely right.

And I'd be careful with the Starbucks and Sonic shakes, you don't want to contribute to someone else's obesity. ;)

I don't think obesity is going to be a concern for anybody but myself. She does pretty well in that regard.

Donger
04-03-2007, 02:04 PM
Burt's Bees? ROFL

I was talking about roses, chocolates, cards, etc. :D

E-cards are PERFECT, you're absolutely right.

And I'd be careful with the Starbucks and Sonic shakes, you don't want to contribute to someone else's obesity. ;)

It could be worse. Specifically Manolo Bahlik (sp?) shoes.

Iowanian
04-03-2007, 02:10 PM
You have a hard case, then. Maybe she used to be a he. Did you check inside for the butterflied and tucked penis prior to the nuptials?

I have to disclose that I WAS kind of a wiseass about it, as she'd smell a skunk if I tried any verbose, soap opera crap. She was also on her way out the door. As for the tucked oscar myer, I've been a certified vag inspector for a couple of decades, and I'm pretty certain of my findings, especially given the expulsion of the living breathing iowani-clone.

Brideowanian isn't a hard case....she's a low maintenence gal who doesn't require alot of that stuff. She does appreciate the small things but knew what she was getting into.

We're good.

htismaqe
04-03-2007, 02:17 PM
I don't think obesity is going to be a concern for anybody but myself. She does pretty well in that regard.

I just thought you might want to be extra careful with YOUR wife, considering your propensity to make other people's wives fat...

Redrum_69
04-03-2007, 02:19 PM
I just thought you might want to be extra careful with YOUR wife, considering your propensity to make other people's wives fat...


oh snap...now hes getting Rosie Odonnelled!!1

Fish
04-03-2007, 02:37 PM
Brideowanian isn't a hard case....she's a low maintenence gal who doesn't require alot of that stuff. She does appreciate the small things but knew what she was getting into.

We're good.

See... this is what I'm looking for. I'm not saying that the advice here isn't a good idea for most couples, but I'm not interested in a high maintenance relationship. Honestly I'd rather be single than to be in that situation again. I am who I am. And when I'm in a relationship, I don't think about her all day. And I don't expect her to think about me all the time either. On top of that, I don't want to have to remind myself to look her up at odd times through the week just to give her the illusion that I DO think about her at odd times. I'm an independent person by nature, and I don't think it would do much good to put on a show and try to be somebody I'm not. I've done that before, and all it did was make her happy and me miserable, which isn't good for either. If she's looking for somebody to chit-chat with about what Becky said to Marsha, I'm going to be honest and tell her I don't give a shit. If that bothers her to the point of unhappiness, then the relationship probably won't go very far. And if I can't find a girl that can be happy with that, then I'll stay single and keep looking.

From some of the posts here, it looks like it depends a lot on the guy involved. If that's your thing, then great. Not mine.

luv
04-03-2007, 02:42 PM
See... this is what I'm looking for. I'm not saying that the advice here isn't a good idea for most couples, but I'm not interested in a high maintenance relationship. Honestly I'd rather be single than to be in that situation again. I am who I am. And when I'm in a relationship, I don't think about her all day. And I don't expect her to think about me all the time either. On top of that, I don't want to have to remind myself to look her up at odd times through the week just to give her the illusion that I DO think about her at odd times. I'm an independent person by nature, and I don't think it would do much good to put on a show and try to be somebody I'm not. I've done that before, and all it did was make her happy and me miserable, which isn't good for either. If she's looking for somebody to chit-chat with about what Becky said to Marsha, I'm going to be honest and tell her I don't give a shit. If that bothers her to the point of unhappiness, then the relationship probably won't go very far. And if I can't find a girl that can be happy with that, then I'll stay single and keep looking.

From some of the posts here, it looks like it depends a lot on the guy involved. If that's your thing, then great. Not mine.
In other words, you're looking for a booty call. You wouldn't think about your SO if you weren't physically with her? Not saying you have to call every time you do, but you should at be thinking about her some of the time.

Saulbadguy
04-03-2007, 02:45 PM
See... this is what I'm looking for. I'm not saying that the advice here isn't a good idea for most couples, but I'm not interested in a high maintenance relationship. Honestly I'd rather be single than to be in that situation again. I am who I am. And when I'm in a relationship, I don't think about her all day. And I don't expect her to think about me all the time either. On top of that, I don't want to have to remind myself to look her up at odd times through the week just to give her the illusion that I DO think about her at odd times. I'm an independent person by nature, and I don't think it would do much good to put on a show and try to be somebody I'm not. I've done that before, and all it did was make her happy and me miserable, which isn't good for either. If she's looking for somebody to chit-chat with about what Becky said to Marsha, I'm going to be honest and tell her I don't give a shit. If that bothers her to the point of unhappiness, then the relationship probably won't go very far. And if I can't find a girl that can be happy with that, then I'll stay single and keep looking.

From some of the posts here, it looks like it depends a lot on the guy involved. If that's your thing, then great. Not mine.
I'm the same way you are. My wife is the same way. So, it works out great.

Saulbadguy
04-03-2007, 02:46 PM
In other words, you're looking for a booty call.
Good lord.

Iowanian
04-03-2007, 02:50 PM
I'm probably jaded in some of these regards, because in the past, most every time I got "out of my element" and really put effort into doing some of those things, or trying to do something "special" for a girlfriend, it was a dismal failure.

Ex. In college, I went home and worked my ass off a few weekends doing "dirty jobs" quality tasks to earn money. I ignored the bitching about being gone.....I had a friend who was "more romantic" help me plan a trip to KC, reservations at a nice place, desert on the top of the Hyat et al.....The night of the Big event, I showed up with a nice, borrowed shirt and gasp....tie to pick her up.....I was laughed out of the room, and she wouldn't go because...well, I have no idea why.

I can go on about ideas with a car filled with balloons each containing a "note" and a knitting needle to pop them.....and other dismal failures and unappreciated jestures...flowers scoffed at and noses outright turned up at attempts at gifts in the past.

In short, I was uncomfortable doing those things, and the girls were either high maintenence, unappreciated wenches that deserved the boot(not phsyically) they got from my schedule, or they knew who I was and that these things didn't really "fit" my personality.

I've tried and done things for ladies that would make most of you gasp in surprise, and I can say that most of them ended up making me look like an asshole. I had a period in my life where the less I did for a girl, the more they chased and more they wanted. I've told a story here before of a girl I'd dated a month, who had been out of town and I had flowers and a card send to her at work(stupidly thinking she'd like them, enjoy the attention in front of her coworkers and appreciate it) and was unceremoniously dumped that night.....I drove to another town, got drunk and said some unsavory things to a very hot new gal in town, including that I'd eff her and never be her boyfriend....and I couldn't shake her for 3 months. She wanted to see me again, and I Told her I'd eff her if she drove to my town(hour) to make a lasagne for my roomates and I...she did. the point....Alot of women apparently don't really wish to be treated well.

Its best to sort through them until you find a spouse that fits your personality and appreciates the gestures you Do make but doesn't require them.

Fish
04-03-2007, 02:53 PM
In other words, you're looking for a booty call. You wouldn't think about your SO if you weren't physically with her? Not saying you have to call every time you do, but you should at be thinking about her some of the time.

That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying I would be more comfortable in a relationship where the happiness wouldn't depend on contact/phone calls/txt msgs X times a week and a gift Y times a month.

I want a girl that knows I love her without me "proving" it in some intentional way all the time. I don't want a woman I have to nurture like a damn virtual pet.....

I want a woman to love me like Grandma loved Gramps....

luv
04-03-2007, 02:54 PM
Good lord.
Okay, not a booty call, in the exact meaning. I can see keeping your independence while in a relationship. I just can't see not thinking about them, whnether you call them or not.

Sorry, being a drama queen was unintentional.

keg in kc
04-03-2007, 02:56 PM
I'm probably jaded in some of these regards, because in the past, most every time I got "out of my element" and really put effort into doing some of those things, or trying to do something "special" for a girlfriend, it was a dismal failure.

Ex. In college, I went home and worked my ass off a few weekends doing "dirty jobs" quality tasks to earn money. I ignored the bitching about being gone.....I had a friend who was "more romantic" help me plan a trip to KC, reservations at a nice place, desert on the top of the Hyat et al.....The night of the Big event, I showed up with a nice, borrowed shirt and gasp....tie to pick her up.....I was laughed out of the room, and she wouldn't go because...well, I have no idea why.

I can go on about ideas with a car filled with balloons each containing a "note" and a knitting needle to pop them.....and other dismal failures and unappreciated jestures.

In short, I was uncomfortable doing those things, and the girls were either high maintenence, unappreciated wenches that deserved the boot(not phsyically) they got from my schedule, or they knew who I was and that these things didn't really "fit" my personality.

I've tried and done things for ladies that would make most of you gasp in surprise, and I can say that most of them ended up making me look like an asshole.

Its best to sort through them until you find a spouse that fits your personality and appreciates the gestures you Do make but doesn't require them.ROFL

Rule #1, for men and women, ought to be "be yourself, from the beginning".

Iowanian
04-03-2007, 02:57 PM
Most of those cases were 3 months to a year into a relationship. I was "trying" to do the things we're told we're supposed to do.

It doesn't always work and its NOT always appreciated.

I lived, I learned and I'm a better husband today for many of those same reasons. Doing some nice things for someone who appreciates it is definitely worth it, but I tend to stay within my personality now.

Redrum_69
04-03-2007, 02:57 PM
Just because of a few bad experiences you dont do nice things for your woman?



Take dancing lessons with her

Take her to a swinger party

Be the MC at an orgy

Buy her a lap dance

Give her a box of candy while driving to your favorite restaurant, then roll down the window, toss out the candy say "nah, i have something else in mind" and go to K-Mart and buy a bag of Cheeto's

keg in kc
04-03-2007, 03:01 PM
Most of those cases were 3 months to a year into a relationship. I was "trying" to do the things we're told we're supposed to do.

It doesn't always work and its NOT always appreciated.I think the trick is finding out what the lady in question appreciates. Not every girl wants massages and manicures, much less roses and chocolates. And sometimes in trying too hard, or doing something you read online or in a magazine, you risk doing something she really doesn't like, something she expects you to know by then.

Kind of like if your girlfriend gets you a customized jersey for your birthday....and it's the Donkos. I mean, aren't all football teams the same? *chuckle*

htismaqe
04-03-2007, 03:06 PM
Most of those cases were 3 months to a year into a relationship. I was "trying" to do the things we're told we're supposed to do.

It doesn't always work and its NOT always appreciated.

I lived, I learned and I'm a better husband today for many of those same reasons. Doing some nice things for someone who appreciates it is definitely worth it, but I tend to stay within my personality now.

Well, you have to consider that if you start doing these "thoughtful" things AFTER you get hitched, it might not be her thing.

Don't get me wrong, she's gonna like a little bit here and a little bit there.

But if acting like that was CENTRALLY important to her, she wouldn't have probably married you in the first place.

Iowanian
04-03-2007, 03:06 PM
I hereby clarify that NONE of the above mentioned miscues were with the queen of Iowania. She's pretty thoughtful and does appreciate an effort, even when it doesn't work.(I should tell the engagement story sometime).

Actually.....brideowanian wasn't a "manicure gal", but I bought her a pedicure when she was pregnant and her feet were hurting. It turns out that wasn't a good idea, because they can't do everything to a preggo-american, but she enjoyed and appreciated that. I've done similar things for birthdays and for our anniversary got her a spa treatment. that did go over very well.

You're right though. It would be alot easier if they'd just give us a list of things they'd like when we pair up.....then you can spend a few years popping those in no particular order.


A high maint lady and I wouldn't have worked....

Lzen
04-03-2007, 03:23 PM
I see a lot of posturing on this thread and that's fine. I used to feel the same way as you and I thought I had a great marriage. It turns out I was kidding myself. Women have emotional needs that aren't logical to men. If we cater to these needs it doesn't make us less of a man... it just means that we get laid more frequently by a woman who is doing it because she's really into it rather than as some sense of obligation to appease our sexual needs. I've been doing a few of the things which appear on this list in recent weeks and my home life and bedroom life has never been better. I highly suggest you try it too - along with calling her in the middle of the day for no reason other than to see how she's doing and tell her how you feel. That's your real "get out of jail free card".

I don't feel like any less of a man for it - in fact, I feel like a frick'n stallion.

Phil knows what he's talking about. Yeah, there should be compromise in any relationship. Women should definitely do things for their man, as well. But this list is just a list of helpful suggestions. I used to have a subscription to Men's Health. It is a magazine about men's health, relationships, and lifestyles. Believe me, your woman will notice and really enjoy it is you take some of these things and do them. Doesn't mean you have to always do everything on the list. Just try some of them. If your woman means anything to you, perhaps just making a small effort to try to please her would show it.

Lzen
04-03-2007, 03:29 PM
Do you wear a sexy french maid outfit with thigh highs and heels when you serve it to her?

No, he saves that for when he visits Endelt. ;)

Redrum_69
04-03-2007, 03:33 PM
No, he saves that for when he visits Endelt. ;)


So what you are saying is that phobia looks like luv?

Phobia
04-03-2007, 03:43 PM
I just thought you might want to be extra careful with YOUR wife, considering your propensity to make other people's wives fat...
HAHAHAHA - I still don't know what that statement was all about. Some people are a little strange.

Lzen
04-03-2007, 03:45 PM
A high maint lady and I wouldn't have worked....

Oh, Hell no. Me either. My wife is not all that high maint. Her best friend is, though. Never in a million years would I be interested in somebody like that.

I have done a gesture for her the past couple years that is not something I would ever do on my own. Her best friend and hubby along with a few other friends have been going to the Country Stampede in Manhattan, KS for years now. They finally conned me into going last year so the wife could go. Keep in mind that I don't like country music at all. And now I have to go again this year. Aw well, at least the hanging out and partying all day is fun. I could do without the concerts, though.

Baby Lee
04-03-2007, 03:45 PM
So what you are saying is that phobia looks like luv?
ROFL - now I know where Endo got the hammock for his deck, it was originally phobia's brassiere.

Lzen
04-03-2007, 03:47 PM
ROFL - now I know where Endo got the hammock for his deck, it was originally phobia's brassiere.
ROFL

Phobia
04-03-2007, 03:47 PM
So what you are saying is that phobia looks like luv?

For her sake I sure hope not.

Phobia
04-03-2007, 03:49 PM
ROFL - now I know where Endo got the hammock for his deck, it was originally phobia's brassiere.

Now you're just saying harmful things - that's never going to get you laid.

bogie
04-03-2007, 03:58 PM
You guys are missing the point. A woman is EASY. My wifes favorite flowers are Lilacs. I give my wife a Lilac sprig once a year. Here in CA Lilacs bloom about 2 weeks out of the year. If I give her a $3.00 Lilac sprig, she loves it. We're not talking about giving up your identitiy, we're talking about little subtle things that make HUGE impressions. I love to watch TV in bed. Once every couple of weeks, I will turn the TV off for her. This makes her very, very happy. Little thought out things, go a long way. The point is, you thought it out.

htismaqe
04-03-2007, 04:01 PM
Now you're just saying harmful things - that's never going to get you laid.

I'm somewhat interested to know why you would insinuate that BL saying mean things to YOU is going to prevent HIM from getting laid...

Phobia
04-03-2007, 04:02 PM
I'm somewhat interested to know why you would insinuate that BL saying mean things to YOU is going to prevent HIM from getting laid...

He's been tugging on my skirt for years now.

Redrum_69
04-03-2007, 04:04 PM
He's been tugging on my skirt for years now.


So if hes been tugging on your skirt and Gochiefs been riding your coattails...then where does Nick Athan fit into all this?

Spott
04-03-2007, 04:07 PM
Women are very complex creatures....we have layers. Like onions.


That doesn't explain the fish smell.

Fish
04-03-2007, 04:10 PM
You guys are missing the point. A woman is EASY.

EASY to the point it takes 50 rules to get the point across?



:p

Baby Lee
04-03-2007, 04:12 PM
So if hes been tugging on your skirt and Gochiefs been riding your coattails...then where does Nick "The Erroneous One" Athan fit into all this?
I dunno, but it looks like Phobia's new nickname is 'the lucky Pierre.'

ROFL

keg in kc
04-03-2007, 04:16 PM
now I know where Endo got the hammock for his deck, it was originally phobia's brassiere.Thank you for omitting the word 'thong'.

Count Alex's Losses
04-03-2007, 04:21 PM
I feel like a frick'n stallion.

ROFL

Iowanian
04-03-2007, 04:32 PM
Phobia feels like a stallion, because he's been gelded.

Interesting.

bogie
04-03-2007, 04:39 PM
EASY to the point it takes 50 rules to get the point across?



:p

50 points yes, but spread 'em out. It's a game, the sooner you learn how to play the game the happier life will be. One Lilac sprig is good for at least a month (depending on when the next case of PMS kicks in).

Zebedee DuBois
04-03-2007, 05:12 PM
41. I love it when you're sweaty.

I am sure this one is conditional. Probably it is true when they are watching a NBA player....but when their hubby comes in from mowing the lawn.....not so much. (income related?)

Phobia
04-03-2007, 05:46 PM
So if hes been tugging on your skirt and Gochiefs been riding your coattails...then where does Nick "The Erroneous One" Athan fit into all this?

I don't know but Guido is about to pay him a visit.

Phobia
04-03-2007, 05:47 PM
Phobia feels like a stallion, because he's been gelded.

Interesting.

What's interesting is that bringing a couple sugar cubes and carrot sticks to my mare = gelded.

DomerNKC
04-03-2007, 07:11 PM
Women are very complex creatures....we have layers. Like onions.so what you are saying is...that you are all Ogres?